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been a while since we had a thread like this. /tv/ is completely dead place for finding quality movies. /lit/ denizens seem to have a much superior taste

pictured was really, really good - recommended from someone here a while back. anybody else got anything?

>> No.13294092

>>13294082
Yeah it was very good especially the directing.
Saw Synecdoche New York recently, really liked it

>> No.13294114

Any tarkovsky, bresson, bergman, fassbinder, Cocteau, Renoir....etc

>> No.13294137

TRAGEDY

O
F

MAN

>> No.13294142
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How is this /lit/ related?

>> No.13294183

>>13294092
watching a lot of Jean-Claude Brisseau films recently really enjoyed them he casts really beautiful actresses may he RIP

>> No.13294204

>>13294142
Not op, but /lit/ is the board most predicated with people who strive to be cultured in the old sense of the word. Surely we can agree that this isn't strictly related to literature, but most of threads up aren't. In sum, it's /lit/ related for the reason I posited, but it is certainly not related to literature.

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>>13294082

>> No.13294218

>>13294114
This.

I also love Yasujirō Ozu, Rohmer and Kieslowski.

>> No.13294220

>>13294204
You speak about pre 2016/lit/

>> No.13294225

>>13294082
my literary tastes are pretty old fashioned and classics oriented but i only like american reagan era movies like top gun, beverly hills cop and police academy. i dislike film as a medium in general, though.

>> No.13294236

>>13294142
like op said /tv/ is a wasteland for film discussion and /lit/ is known to have good taste in most mediums so........

>> No.13294242

>>13294225
that's ok since reagan america was peak western civilization anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAmMZ9Kz3hA

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>>13294242
>reagan america was peak western civilization anyway.

>> No.13294285
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>>13294242
That video gave me goosebumps.

>> No.13294288

>>13294082
How can you see one part of the trilogy and wonder what to see next?

Do you consider yourself a connoisseur because you have watched 1 (one) film?

You need to change your attitude to life.

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>>13294082
Orpheus (1950)
Persona (1966)
8 1/2 (1963)
Ichi the Killer (2001)
Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)
Mouchette (1967)
Wild Strawberries (1957)
Seventh Seal (1957)
Bladerunner (1982)
Andrei Rublev (1966)
Cool Hand Luke (1967)
Naked Lunch (1991)
Possession (1981)
Stalker (1979)
Thin Red Line (1998)
Diary of a Country Priest (1951)
Come And See (1985)
to name a few

>> No.13294328

>>13294242
I unironically prefer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih78dz2XyLc

Maybe it's because I haven't watched Top Gun.

>> No.13294338

>>13294292
Is Andrei Rublev worth it? I have a physical copy but it's like 3 hours long. The only other Tarkovsky I've seen is Ivan's Childhood. Should I proceed?

>> No.13294346

>>13294328
i'm not very picky, whether it's breakfast club, back to the future, major league, hot shots, it's all about the aesthetics of that specific time period to me. the lighting, the music, the people/clothing, cars, the streets and buildings, everything was absolute kino.

>> No.13294378

>>13294338
Tarkovsky is my favorite director but Andrei Rublev is my least favorite film of his. It’s not bad but it is 3 hours long, doesn’t really make its mark, and is king of boring. Stalker, Mirror, and Solaris are millions of times better, especially Stalker which is a strong 10/10

>> No.13294379

>>13294338
Are you, perhaps, on the run from multiple international military and spying agencies?

>> No.13294393

>>13294338
I havent's seen Ivan's Childhood but Rublev is definitely worth it if you like his style. IIRC it's divided into episodes so it is probably intended to be watched in multiple sittings. A lot of people are turned off by his relatively long shots. I remember hearing somewhere that the average length of a shot in one of his films (can't remember which one) was nearly 2 minutes.

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Fellini, Rohmer and Bresson <3

Also I recommend pic related (Two-lane blacktop) very much

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>>13294082
pic related was amazing and very /lit/ (in the ideal sense).it is a bit long but the length is vital for the subject at hand. also never seen such a beautiful woman (fully nude) in a movie where the nudity is handled in such a way that there is nothing overtly sexual about it, it's only a natural part of the artistic process. very based movie.

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>>13294082
check out some taiwanese directors, hou hsiao-hsien and tsai ming-liang. one of the best openings to a film I've probably ever seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ubt8JvykiQ

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>>13294082
>/lit/ films
The Lion in Winter, its based on a play and the screenplay is fantastic. I wish Game of Thrones had dialog this good.

>> No.13294863

>>13294718
This one never gets old.

"I even made poor Louis take me on crusade. How's that for blasphemy? I dressed my maids as amazons and rode bare-breasted halfway to Damascus. Louis had a seizure and I damn near died of windburn.... But the troops were dazzled."

>> No.13294947

>>13294557
she has the best figure I've seen, truly perfect casting

>> No.13294973

Noisy Requiem.

>> No.13295001
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>i will never grow up in salzburg
what am i doing here? why am i alive?

>> No.13295010
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Henry Fool

A blue collar dude writes his thoughts and we all watch what happens next.

See: >>>/t/873547

>> No.13295022

French New Extremity films are like Houellebecqian cinema. I particularly enjoyed Leos Carax's 'Pola X' and 'Mauvais Sang'. Noé's 'I Stand Alone' is worth mentioning here, and I heard that 'Love' references Peter Sotos.

>> No.13295083

My Dinner with Andre
Barry Lyndon
Wild Strawberries
The Wages Of Fear
Chimes at Midnight
The Age of Innocence
Howards End

>> No.13295093

>>13295010
this is a great film

>> No.13295110

>>13295093

I like Trust from Hal Hartley as well. Henry Fool is the most "literally" "literary".

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ahem. P A S O L I N I

but i can recommend a film virtually unheard of outside of Russia, "Cargo 200" (dir. Balabanov). macabre but painfully realistic. his entire filmohraphy is like that.

>> No.13295163

>>13294082
Whatever (Houellebecq)
Un homme qui dort
Rohmer movies

>> No.13295205

Mary & Max

>> No.13295241

>>13295205
I attended a talk at a university by the director which, sadly, was not very interesting. It was very rote inspirational talk sort of thing. bla bla, I was on Centrelink haha how relatable, get inspired, you can win an Academy Award like me if you get a govt grant.

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>>13294204
>/lit/ is the board most predicated with people who strive to be cultured in the old sense of the word

>> No.13295260

>>13295241
That movie kind of sucked too.

>> No.13295265

>>13294338
I've seen Mirror, Ivan, and Rublev. Rublev was fantastic, but Hard to be a God (2015) was better. I'd watch all of those and Marketa Lazarova too

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>>13295246

>> No.13295284

>>13295265
*sniff* god I've never seen so much snot in my life

>> No.13295712

so this thread has a lot of movies I've either already watched or heard of a million times before

anyone have anything more obscure to speak of?

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>>13294082
The films of John Ford

>> No.13295742
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>>13295712

>> No.13295772

>>13295712
What was the ethnicity of the main character in Noisy Requiem?

>> No.13295817

>>13294142
Why does everything have to be strictly literature? Sometimes it's nice to talk about others things with other people who share your interests in other places. You cunts ruin everything with your whining.

>> No.13295868

>>13295128
Cargo 300 is more based.

>> No.13295876

The only movies that I've watched the past few years was Arrival, Ex Machina, Blade Runner, Annihilation, and Calvary. They were all pretty good.

>> No.13295914

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

>> No.13295917
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>> No.13295919

>>13294082
Triumph of the Will

>> No.13295924

It’s difficult to recommend films on /lit/, because the best films usually make the most of their medium, and so tend to be the least ‘literary’. ‘Pure cinema’ as one might call it. For example Bresson.

>> No.13295936

>>13295924
with that noted, do you have some good recommendations? anything that particularly stuck with you, moved you?

>> No.13295963

>>13295712
Bei qing cheng shi (1989)

it's pretty comfy

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>> No.13295995

>>13295936
Sure, most things I really like manage to create an interesting atmosphere, or to transmit a feeling without words. A few options:

Stalker
The Wicker Man
Empire of Pleasure
Brazil (for atmosphere much more than narrative)
The Devils
any Antonioni (for film language, especially La Notte)
any Nic Roeg (especially Walkabout, Bad Timing, Don’t Look Now)
the Terrorizers
Badlands
Assasiantion of Jesse James
Repo man
Babette’s Feast
Ugetsu Monogatari
Distant Voices Still Lives (and any Terrence Davies)

I can recommend more if you have specific things you want

>> No.13296009

>>13295995
Sorry that was Empire of Passion i meant there. I’ll also add Pastoral Hide and Seek to the list for now

>> No.13296012

Eros+massacre

>> No.13296021

>>13294142
SO MUCH THIS


LADS......
LAAAAAAAAADS..........


SCREENWRITING IS AN INFERIOR CRAFT.


t.failedscreenwriter

>> No.13296031

>>13295817
>Why does everything have to be strictly literature?
FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR BOARD

>> No.13296056

>>13296031
You can go back to where you came from instead of shitting this place up with your gatekeeping

>> No.13296093

>>13296056
He's right, though, moving pictures is a brainlet medium and you should fuck off.

>> No.13296113

>>13296093
I'm saying that not everything has to be strictly literature to be acceptable here. You're opinion on film is irrelevant.

>> No.13296114

Some of the core stuff in case people wanted to get into films

Kubrick's stuff
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
Eyes Wide Shut (1999)
Dr. Strangelove (1964)

Kurosawa's stuff
Ikiru (1952)
etc....

Hitchcock's stuff
Psycho (1960)
Vertigo (1958)
etc....

Coen brothers' stuff
Fargo (1995)
No Country For Old Men (2007)
etc....

Wes Anderson's stuff
Rushmore (1998)
Bottle rocket (1996)

Lynch's stuff
Mulholland Dr. (2001)
etc....

Bergman's stuff
Persona (1966)
etc....

I can personally recommend:
Bei qing cheng shi (1989) - common people do ordinary stuff and nothing much really happens. very slow and calm movie, i love it.

Can't think of a summary for the rest, sorry
Taste of Cherry (1997)
Oslo, 31. august (2011)
Salinui chueok (2003)
Lars and the Real Girl (2007)

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>>13296113
>You're opinion on film is irrelevant.

>> No.13296123

>>13294142
Screenwriting is literature. If you disagree stop reading Shakespeare and other playwrights.

>> No.13296137

film is audio-visual pollution and an embodiment about everything that is wrong with the modern world.

>>13296123
>the scripts to the movies i'm watching are shakespeare tier
aw, sweaty...

>> No.13296138

>>13294114
Watch Fanny and Alexander. The TV (longer) edition.

>> No.13296146

>>13294292
Rewatched Thin Red Line yesterday. Holy cow

>> No.13296149

>>13296137
>shakespeare tier
Very few things are on the level of Shakespeare. If this is the standard you have then you are going to be disappointed by a lot of works of art.

>> No.13296160

>>13296149
>Very few things are on the level of Shakespeare.
But there's a lot of overrated movies with a cult following of pseuds.

>> No.13296168

>>13296160
I'm not sure why this is relevant. There are also a lot of overrated books with a cult following of pseuds. I don't conclude from this that literature is a worthless medium.

>> No.13296172

>>13294082
Being there

>> No.13296178

>>13296168
You said there's not a lot of things that reach the level of Shakespeare, but I point out that there's lots of overrated movies. Therefore some movies reach the level of Shakespeare. Get it?

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>>13296178
yeah

>> No.13296189

>>13296184
Good job posting porn on a blue board, you idiot.

>> No.13296214

>>13294082
diary of a wimpy kid: rodrick rules

>> No.13296227

What does /lit/ think of Noah Baumbach? I've been going through his films recently, and I like pretty much everything I've seen. Especially Frances Ha, The Meyerowitz Stories, and Mistress America.

>> No.13296244
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Throw Away Your Books, Rally in the Streets (1971)

>> No.13296247

>>13294137
where to watch this 4 free?

>> No.13296255

mike leigh's naked is nice, mentions the greeks, talks a lot about the bible and some /x/ nostradamus shit
the ninth gate pure cheese but can be a comfy thriller

>> No.13296259

>>13296227
I’ve only seen Frances Ha and found it quite shallow in a particularly American way, so i didn’t bother with his other movies.

>> No.13296371

>>13295712
This kind of threads are allways like that because more obscue mivies deal with more narrow individual tastes.
Indian summer 1972

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>>13294242
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAmMZ9Kz3hA
not even american but this is based af

>> No.13296386

>>13296227
>Frances Ha
Saw it at the movies on a date with some art hoe. Awful, awful stuff.

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>>13295712
Zeit der Kannibalen / Age of Cannibals.
One of the funniest films of the decade and made by fucking Germans no less, it shouldn't even exist. It's much better than Toni Erdman. Think Trier's Dogville but against a backdrop of turbocapitalism.

>> No.13296411

>>13296397
>think Dogville

Dropped.

>> No.13296413

>>13296397
>current year
>german film
>arte approval
>public funding
pass

>> No.13296425

>>13296397
>>13296411
>>13296413
something about contemporary european cinema and art in general, especially comedy, screams cringe. it's some uncanny valley shit. failure to grasp aesthetic.

>> No.13296511

>>13296371
70s italy fucks my shit up hard and I don't know why

>> No.13296553

>>13295001
I grew up in Salzburg. It was okay I guess.

>> No.13296794

>>13296168
name 1 ONE film that competes with HAMLET.

>> No.13296915

pseud obscure and enjoyable films i recently watch:
johnny mad dog
play (ruben ostlund)
godspeed you black emperor
marat/sade
cinemania (2002) a documentary about cinema addicts. pretty /lit/
heaven knows what
joe (john g avildsen, 1970)
serie noire (1979, writing by georges perec and with one in a million performance of patrick dewaere...)

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>>13296553
Which Austrian cities are the most comfy?

>> No.13296946

>>13294292
Ichi the Killer is my favourite movie bar none.

>> No.13296964

>>13296921
after reading too much of thomas bernhard, austria seems to me like a rotten, hypocrite and oppresive place. i mean, i literally see it in this kind of photos.

>> No.13296976

>>13296964
that grumpy fucker change my mind of an entire country.

>> No.13296994
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I want sad movies because i want to kill myself. Recs?

>> No.13297027

>>13294338
Yeah it's like the greatest film of all time. Just go in with some context of Andrei's life and know that some scenes happen in dreams

>> No.13297047

>>13294601
This opening is mesmerizing, the film itself ephemeral but oddly heartbreaking. I once knew a girl who looked like Vicky.

>> No.13297060

>>13294082
No such thing as a /lit/ film. Movies are as stupid as anime and videogames, all of them build trash narratives for people who need information spoonfeeding. Literature outstands all of these in terms of narrative depth and scope.
Now go read a book.

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This is good ranking site
https://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_100-1.htm

>> No.13297078

>>13294082
The other notable Roy Andersson film (was on Netflix a little while ago), Naked, a couple Wes Anderson movies be viewed as comfy lit (Grand Budapest Hotel especially)

>> No.13297082

>>13294204
/pol/ is also the place most predicated people who strive to be retarded in the old sense of the word but you don't see them making threads about how to prune those extra chromosomes, do you?

>> No.13297103

>>13296915
>cinemania (2002) a documentary about cinema addicts. pretty /lit/
/lit/ is nowhere near as dedicated as those spergers. great doc though. I love the bit at the end where some the subjects walk out because the aspect ratio is wrong

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Here is the film equivalent of Gravity’s rainbow. Problematic religious upbringing, cults, upskirt photography, ultraviolence, slapstick humour, absurdity, long drifting scenes in which biblical verses are recited word for word, boners, crossdressing, a love story

>> No.13297117

>>13295995
>Nic Roeg
You might like Rumley's Fashionista

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UN HOMME QUI DORT by GEORGES PEREC

>> No.13297165

>>13297103
yes, you are right. /lit/ is not that peculiar. i think is what i want /lit/ to be. but its not.
i thought i was the only one who watch that doc. i loved that spergs for no reason at all.

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>>13294082

>ctrl+f
>no Wake in Fright

come on...

>> No.13297232

I'm surprised no one mentioned Pervert's Guide to Cinema

>> No.13297251

>>13297199
i don't see how it's /lit/ but it's great.
crazy to think they actually killed those kangaroos.

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tfw /lit/ is FULL OF FAILED SCREENWRITING WANNABEES.....SHIT

SHAME ON Y'ALL

>> No.13297485

>>13294601
hhh is GOAT

>> No.13297495

>>13295917
Asako I&II is pretty good too

>> No.13297556
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sex and zen (1991)

hong kong erotic film adpated from a chinese literature classic from 17th century, "The Carnal Prayer Mat", so you can watch it with the noble motive of illuminating yourself with oriental high culture.

also it's genuinely good

>> No.13297559

>>13297116
not a huge fan of sion sono but antiporno is decent

>> No.13297626

>>13297116
Love this film. Absolute unit.

>> No.13297630

>>13297060
you idiot. you total fucking idiot.

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Fanny & Alexander is a brilliant family epic and one of my all-time favourite films. Would recommend it to absolutely everyone.

>> No.13297658

>>13297639
bergman is such a legend

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Watch the Quiz Show with Ralph Fiennes to see the death of the old guard /lit/erati at the hands of television

>> No.13297676

>>13296244
you got a full copy?

>> No.13297687

>>13297070
>https://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_100-1.htm
I only saw 18 of these films. How embarrassing.

>> No.13297695

>>13297165
check out cine manifest (2006) which is the autobiopic of the eponymous group of marxist film makers in san francisco who started a commune to make films in the 70s, and mostly wound up writing snarky notes to each other and trying to evict a drug addicted nick ray. it's what i dream a /lit/ collective would come to. only they did actually make some movies.

>> No.13297704

>>13297674
Watch The Cradle Will Rock which also has Hank Azaria in it, to see the death of federal theatre and Jack Black bullying Bill Murray.

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>>13297639
It's a great watch but Alexander is such a smug little bitchboi holy shit.

>> No.13297730

>>13297676
there's an hd torrent on skytorrents m8

>> No.13297731

>>13297639
>>13297658
worst Bergman film though

>> No.13297732

>>13297731
b8

>> No.13297739

>>13297731
Completely incorrect.

>>13297729
Yeah he's a little shit.

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>>13297731
*blocks your path*

>> No.13297746

>>13297687
i've seen 46

>> No.13297747

>>13295772
underrated post

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tfw we're currently living in a golden age of film. The best movies on the 2010s will be remembered as some of the best movies of all time:
Norte, The End of History
Once Upon a Time in Anatolia
The Four Time
Uncle Boonmee
Kaili Blues
and there's more, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. Some incredible films being produced these days.

>> No.13297759

>>13297751
it's the worst decade for film since the 80s. what's wrong with you?

>> No.13297763

>>13297759
imagine being dumb like this

>> No.13297767

>>13297759
maybe in America, but the rest of the world is making incredible works of art at an unprecedented pace

>> No.13297772

>>13297759
look to the east

>> No.13297776

>>13297751
Do you consider Bladerunner a top contender?

>> No.13297785

>>13297751
add hard to be a god to that list

>> No.13297802

>>13297776
No, Hollywood is getting worse and worse at making movies. The only American movies in the past decade I've thought were worth watching were Computer Chess (2013) and Meek's Cutoff (2010). I really wanted Silence to be good, but I don't think Scorcese's editor understood what he was trying to do or the films that inspired it.

>> No.13297810

>>13297751
>Norte, The End of History
my first lav diaz film what should i expect?

>> No.13297844

>>13297810
it's based on Crime and Punishment, so be prepared for it to touch just about every topic worth thinking about

>> No.13297892

>>13297746
Anything recent you'd like to recommend? Just saw The Burning and was pretty disappointed.

>> No.13297895

>>13297251

The script is based on a book, that's the /lit/ relation (and yes, I mostly mentioned it because it's a fantastic movie).

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>All online forums and boards designated for film discussion are filthy garbage, /tv/ being the filthiest of all
>Film discussion on other forums and boards is verboten

It's absolutely pathetic that there seems to be not a single place for film discussion on the entire internet despite the fact that it's the most popular and accessible form of art today.
At least we have dank memes, haha

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I'm looking forward to A Hidden Life when it comes out later this year.

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>>13297199
God I love this movie.

I nominate pic related. It's on the film festival circuit tour right now but will hopefully get digital release soon.

"To fully deconstruct Romanian director Radu Jude’s meta-on-meta “I Do Not Care If We Go Down in History as Barbarians” (the quote marks are part of the title) would require page upon page of single-spaced footnotes, swathes of Hannah Arendt, a deft repackaging of Walter Benjamin’s “Theses on the Philosophy of History,” and a crash course in Romanian anti-Semitism and the nation’s participation in World War II, amid formal nods to Godard, Straub-Huillet, and Marxist critical theory, while martial music plays in the background. Clocking in at an unwieldy 140 minutes, Jude’s extraordinary opus can be overly didactic and unapologetically intellectual at times, but it is also startling —a provocative, sarcastic, and momentous act of interrogation between the past and the present that escalates to an impasse, with the hands of each locked around the neck of the other."

>> No.13298008

>>13297966
can't wait
critics lost the plot completely with his last few films imo

>> No.13298011

>>13294259
This.

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>>13296994

>> No.13298033

>>13297939
because anyone spending significant time watching movies or tv shows is a fucking brainlet which is reflected in the level of discussion the medium receives.

>> No.13298039

>>13297971
whenever a critic calls a film "shocking" or "startling" I'm immediately suspicious about it. For whatever reason these maximalist, Jodorowskian films always seem to be reviewed highly on the basis that their endearing weirdness forgives their heavy-handed symbolism and pedantic preaching.

>> No.13298044

>>13297695
thank you. sounds great.

>> No.13298048

>>13297844
ty anon

>> No.13298060

withnail & i

>> No.13298151

>>13298033
Hollywood shows and popcorn movies relate to film as YA novels relate to novels. 90 percent of content of any medium is inevitably garbage, that's just the nature of culture. Sure, literature has much more depth as an artform than film, but that's not the point.
There's decent discussion forums for "high-brow" art such as literature and for "low-brow" art such as comics. But for some reason, there's no properly functioning forum for films.

>> No.13298186

>>13297070
Seen 30 in the top 100

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Nothing has, or ever will come close to Tarkosvki. Even after accepting this fact I was able to get some joy from seeing other stuff, Angelopoulos, Eustache, Rivette, Parajanov, Bresson, Lopushansky, Saura, Monteiro, Zulawski, Makhmalbaf, Kiarostami, Kobayashi and Has come to mind.

>> No.13298588

>>13298499
why he is so undisputable admired. i dont like him at all, no film it was more than a meh to me. i mean, visually he is not something innovative, imaginative or... i dont know, something visually impactful like murnau or kubrick... . also there is a subtle notion that his films have a profound meaning. but, for example, you see the shitty movie sphere, with sharon stone and samuel l jackson?, stalker is not so different thematically and in insight than that. tarkovski seems a very interesting man with interesting ideas in his interviews, but to me his movies are not that rich, varied, originals, or deep. what exactly is his charming?.

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If by /lit/ you mean low-IQ, pretentious, delusional, superstitious, narcissistic (and, admittedly, /lit/ is all of those) then I pic related is pretty /lit/

>> No.13298633

>>13298151
Yes there is. Go to r/truefilm

>> No.13298657

>>13298633
>Go to r/truefilm
they get nowhere in their discussions "it's a vague thing! I suppose it means whatever you want it to mean". there, I saved you the trip.

>> No.13298675

>>13298633
You can't be serious.

>> No.13298677

>>13298657
but it's true! most things don't mean anything.

>> No.13298681

>>13298657
Imagine eskimo watching western movies. How are they going to interpret them? Or do the movies not have an objective value, just a subjective value for people that share the culture with the director of the movie? Seems like a faggotty opinion to hold.

>> No.13298693

>>13298677
>most things don't mean anything.
I hate this fucking
>sometimes the curtains are just blue!
meme. If an artist has ultimate control over what to show and they're showing you things that mean nothing, they're a bad artist producing meaningless works.

>> No.13298706

>>13294210
Caught this on Kanopy. It's very funny but I wouldn't call it a thriller

>> No.13298732

>>13296946
Bataille, is that you?

>> No.13298746

>>13297676
I delete stuff after watching, but I believe I got it from rutracker

>> No.13298759

>>13295083
My dinner with andre is a shitshow

>> No.13298761

>>13298693
First of all thanks for responding with an intelligible response, not many people here do that on /lit/ (most people here are fucking retards, let's face it). My opinion is that the line between meaninglessness and meaning is pretty thin. The author might have chosen blue curtains while having something very specific in mind, but as soon as he puts those words on the page, it becomes something else, something bigger than he intended. His reasoning for why the curtains are blue might be rather retarded, but another person could intepret is as something brilliant, with a totally different reasoning. In that respect being a good writer is something of a matter of luck, but that's totally reasonably. Many respectable writers (i think I remember goethe saying something to that respect) admit that their writings are something bigger than what they intended it to be, that people interpret things in unexpected ways, breathing even more life into it, and their writings become a being of its own, independent of the writer who wrote it. The fact that an authors works can be validly interpreted in different ways doesn't make them a bad author, on the contrary, if their choices provoke thought, that makes them good in their profession. Meaninglessness is quite ill-defined : the world may seem to be meaningless at first, but then what are the physicists, philosophers, mathematicians, economists working on? I don't think there are really meaningless things. Sure, the meaning behind some things could be boring or pedestrian, but then it wouldn't inspire thoughts in the reader, so the writer would fail his purpose.

>> No.13298846

>>13294292

forgot how much I loved basic bitch arthouse movies before seeing this post

I appreciate your sincerity and love for movies. These are all of them great films (except for Ichi) and I respect your post

>> No.13298848

>>13298759
Agreed, totally overrated. Very Boomer idea of deep conversation (hippie nonsense). I dislike it, but appreciate the general idea motivating it

>> No.13298860

>>13296259
He's quite good, but if you aren't adjusted to New Yorker upper middlebrow irritating Jew pseudo-intellectualism a la Woody Allen I can totally understand rejecting it. You have to understand that Baumbach is to a certain extent self-aware and not necessarily playing into Woody Allen cliches so much as exaggerating them for comic effect. Greta Gertwig operates in a similar mode; to a large extent she simply applies a shiksa female template to Baumbach

>> No.13298865

>>13296425
Toni Erdmann was at least decent, you must admit

>> No.13298875

>>13298604
Love that film, alain resnais is in my top 5 French directors

>> No.13298898

>>13298848
>Very Boomer idea of deep conversation (hippie nonsense)
I didn't say it was deep or profound (or that I align with the character's wold view), but it is very well acted and written and the whole thing felt natural and didn't feel as artificial as it very easily could've.

>> No.13298903

>>13298761
>The fact that an authors works can be validly interpreted in different ways doesn't make them a bad author, on the contrary, if their choices provoke thought, that makes them good in their profession.
Maybe, but if the authorial intent isn't there, the author is relying on the reader/viewer to find the meaning for them. When I watch an Ozu protagonist quietly settle into a newfound isolation, it's his genius that brings together all the audio and visual information to produce a moving image laced with themes of age and familial obligation and modernity. That precision of communication is exactly what we celebrate in artists and if we approach a work of art as if the artist didn't exist, we might as well just replace them all with AI at this point.

>> No.13298908

>>13295712
Wings by Larisa Sheptiko is kino

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“There are very few directors, about whom you’d say you automatically have to see everything they do. I’d put Fellini, Bergman and David Lean at the head of my first list, and Truffaut at the head of the next level.”

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>> No.13298955

>>13294114
Where to start with Fassbinder?

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For me its Eustache, Cassavetes and Antonioni

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Anyone have suggestions for stuff similar to Kelly Reichardt's work? Debra Granik scratches a similar itch but isn't quite as good.

>> No.13299043

>>13296114

Good shit, thanks anon

>> No.13299131

>>13299036
Kiarostami is pretty similar - a lot of Iranian film is like her work.

>> No.13299147

>>13294137
World on a wire is as kino as it gets.

>> No.13299149

Dust is hardly an all-time masterpiece, but in certain Russian sircles it's a cornerstone on the level of Welcome to NHK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C5WYlI_NKc

>> No.13299193

>>13296921
zell am zee

>> No.13299600

>>13295010
great rec. any hal hartley from the 90s is (haven't seen his recent stuff)

>> No.13299971

>>13298633
looking at it now. it Really fucking blows compared to this thread already, in a multitude of ways.

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Don Hertzfeldt's "It's such a beautiful day" is very nice.

>> No.13300213

>>13300185
It is very very necessary viewing

>> No.13300264

>>13298908

Always nice to see this get some recognition. One of my absolute favorites films;

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>> No.13300448

>>13294142
songs from the second floor is based on the poems of cesar vallejo

>> No.13300502

>>13295128
cargo 200 is a loose adaptation of "sanctuary" by william faulkner

>> No.13300522

>>13297971
romanian cinema peaked like 15 years ago

>> No.13300634

This thread is great anons

Where can I find a decent /tv/ like this?

>> No.13300754

>>13300634
doesn't exist. tried starting a thread there and nobody was having it. its all normie tier shit there now.

>> No.13300921

>>13300185
trash

>> No.13301053

>>13294142
Et tu, Fele?

>> No.13301094

>>13298955
Ali

>> No.13301102

>>13298955
Marriage of Maria Braun is a good place to start. Or Bitter tears of petra von kant to see his more theatrical side.

Would also recommend World on a Wire, very different from his other films but a great sci fi movie

>> No.13301134

>>13298860
The question for me is, why are his movies so specific then? He manages to speak to only a very small audience (which fortunately for him includes many American critics) without saying much about a more universal human condition. It’s the same problem a lot of contemporary plastic arts have, they lack any sort of connection to more universal values

>> No.13301163

>>13296227

Squid and the Whale is the only worthwhile film he's ever made

>> No.13301226

Saw Bergmann's Wild Strawberries and The Seventh Seal but he's not really doing it for me. Do you guys recommend some of his works, did I start with the wrong ones? Planning on watching Persona and Fanny and Alexander next.

So far, I don't see him anywhere near the level of Ozu, Tarkovski, Kurosawa, Bresson, de Sica...

>> No.13301241

>>13301226
>he didn't like The Seventh Seal
Farewell, my anon. I could have raped you, but between you and me? I've tired of that sort of love.

>> No.13301312

>>13294718
My second favorite of all time, right after 'A Man For All Seasons'.

>> No.13301324

>>13295995
>Babette’s Feast
my man

>> No.13301525

>>13298060
>>13295083
Absolutely disgusting that only one poster said Withnail & I, and Chimes at Midnight.

>> No.13301606

>>13297751
>Uncle Boonmee
that movie was top tier, will have to check out the others

>> No.13301637

>>13298604
Mad cos he didn't get it

>> No.13301662

this is a great thread and I applaud /lit/ for making so many great recommendations. Haven't seen the following mentioned

An Exterminating Angel
Another Year
A Petrified Forest
Playtime
Zazie dans le Metro

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>>13294082

>> No.13301674

>>13300522
Tales from the Golden Age is only ten years old.

>> No.13301681

>>13294082
The films I've liked lately.
>Lessons of the Darkness
just gorgeous, and gives you such a nice unique look at the first gulf war and lets you make decisions in regards to how we as a society view the west's actions in the middle east.
>US Go Home
It's just a supremely comfy film, nice setting, fun characters and world, it's a nostalgic film for people who watch film I think in a lot of ways, like if you've seen Goddard and all that from the 60s you'll feel very nostalgic for the setting.
>Proof
Nice Aussie film early roles for Russel Crow and Hugo Weaving, just a cool movie I found enjoyable and kind of nicely melancholy

>> No.13301685

>>13297971
cringe and bluepilled

>> No.13301706

>>13297971
fuck off with jewish propaganda

>> No.13301721

>>13298693
most people are bad artists, especially those in the film industry. unlike literature, which just talent and skill manifested as words on paper, producing a film is more about logistics (organizing funding & actors, most of which are terrible) than actual talent or skill.

>> No.13301725

>>13301706
>>>/pol/
Wrong board you dumb anti-semite

>> No.13301732

>>13301312
>>13294718
watch Wolf Hall if you haven't yet

>> No.13301734

>>13301725
wrong website, shlomo

>> No.13301748

>>13301734
Global rule 3

>> No.13301762

Has anything worthwhile come out of Germany, Austria and Switzerland in the last few years?

>> No.13301770

>>13301748
i'm not even that guy, get used to the thought that nobody in the world likes you.

>> No.13301777

>>13301770
>nobody outside of /pol/*
Fixed that for you. And really I couldn't care less what some xenophobes think

>> No.13301782

>>13301777
>waaah waaah, it's not true
I can almost hear your nasal kvetching

>> No.13301783

>>13301777
I meant "nobody on /pol/". you know what I mean

>> No.13301785

>>13301782
>heh, people like anti-semites like me worldwide
"no"

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>>13301785

>> No.13301802

>>13301794
Not an argument. /pol/ definitely the minority with your views. I dare you to go out into public and start ranting about jewish people and see how seriously you are taken

>> No.13301806

>>13301762
Well, Toni Erdmann is actually good. Other than that Haneke has gone down recently, no idea about anything else.

>> No.13301811

>>13301785
He's kinda right, though. With the exception of a few american bible thumpers, nobody genuinely likes you and your culture. Your childishly whiny and cuntish behaviour ITT is part of the reason why.

>> No.13301812

>>13296976
lmao I thought about doing a job search there, but every time I open up karriere.at, the head of Thomas Bernhard jumps out of the screen and yells "you don't want to deal with this"

the right-wingers should shill him more desu

>> No.13301814

>>13301811
Source?

>> No.13301816

>>13301802
i actually made friends with people from all over the world by exactly doing that.

>> No.13301819

>>13301816
>/r/thathappened

>> No.13301824

>>13301819
>reddit reference
yeah, figures. i rest my case.

>> No.13301825

>>13301824
I don't believe you. Back to your containment board >>>/pol/

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>>13301825
>I-I don't believe you.

>> No.13301835

>>13301814
I can assure you that it's true without even needing a source. It's not about your culture. Speaking about culture in this time where everything is Americanized to the point of disgust is the equivalent of severe brain damage. So it's not a /pol/tard speaking here, because I'm convinced that nations are based on fiction and so on, whatever.

It's about the perceived influence of the Jewish people in the west, especially America. Any other fictive nation would love to have that kind of influence on the Senate/White House or any other American institution, but they don't have it and that's why the Jews are a problem. It's not directly against the Jews but about their position and the desire of other people to be in that position too.

>> No.13301843

>>13301835
>source: dude trust me
nah. even /pol/ knows they are the minority

>> No.13301846

>>13301843
Count the number of Bar Mitzvahs in Hollywood movies.

>> No.13301853

>>13301846
Jewish people aren't religious

>> No.13301854

>>13301853
Not my point.

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>>13294082
A cinema in my city used to be call "Royal", after the company that had established it: Royal Film. When they sold it in the 90s to a culture organisation, the theatre lost its legal rights to the name, and the new owners decided to turn off the last two letters in its locally famous neon sign, dubbing it "Roy". Partly in Roy Anderssons honour, and parly to avoid legal issues.

>> No.13302187

>>13296247
try 1337x or google, it used to be on torrentking

>> No.13303397

>>13294142
kill me pete

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none of Jia's films after this one ever really connected in a way that this one did, such a good encapsulation of the 2000s

>> No.13303964

>>13299036
BREECE D'J PANCAKE

PLEASE PARDON ME. I LIKE BOOKS. DON'T SHOOT.

>> No.13304000

>>13294346
Try watching Antonioni in black and white, then speak about pure kino.

>> No.13304013

>>13304000
sorry, i'm not gay

>> No.13304248

>>13298846
Not liking Ichi is basic asf

>> No.13304346

>>13294114
>>13294292
>>13294426
>>13295083
>>13295022
>the same board that idolises shitty, boring classic lit also adores shitty, boring psuedo cinema
Who'd have thunk it

>> No.13304391

>>13304346
the worst part is when really good directors like renoir and welles get mentioned next to (usually one step down from) awful men like bergman, or worse, tarkovsky.

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>>13304346
>>13304391

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>>13304391
>really good directors
>welles

>> No.13304537

>>13304506
he's fantastic.

>> No.13304543

>>13304450
I don't get what this is supposed to imply

>> No.13304606

>>13304543
That disliking something solely because it's popular is hipster behavior. There is nothing inherently wrong with disliking classics, but desperately telegraphing "X IS POPULAR AND I DISLIKE X" with no specific criticisms or information of value given comes across as desperate attention seeking.

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>>13304606

>> No.13304674

>>13304606
>implying I dont read
>implying I dont watch cinema
>implying I care to read hundreds of pages of sad Europeans being angsty
>implying I care to see sad Russians dwell on the intricacies of the human condition for two, awful hours on film

>> No.13304715

>>13304674
>movie is boring so it's bad !
boring is only a valid criticism of entertainment.

>> No.13304721

>>13304715
films (& novels) ought to be entertaining

>> No.13304727

>>13304721
go back to /tv/

>> No.13304741

>>13304727
well since shakespeare, homer & cervantes felt the same i can't be in bad company

>> No.13304754

>>13304721
imagine unironically holding this opinion

>> No.13304760

>>13304754
you're only letting yourself in for a lot of boredom (and its companion, real hatred).

>> No.13304779

stop bickering you little fucking dweebs

>> No.13304783

>>13304715
>>movie is boring so it's bad !
Its a valid criticism. You're deluded if you feel otherwise.

>> No.13304794

>>13304741
entertainment back in those eras had a different meaning than today. Shakespeare, Homer and Cervantes didnt write schlock for low IQ plebs, they wrote high class entertainment for the upper rungs of society. None of them would approve of adults consuming modern manchild "entertainment" like capeshit, star wars and harry potter.

>> No.13304818

>>13304633
I never said I like Welles' films and even if I did that doesn't mean I would take everything he said for law. Anyway, he is speaking about the "whole range" of art. Shoehorning that quote into this context doesn't make a convincing argument to justify dismissing specific works for no reason other than contrarianism.

>>13304721
>films (& novels) ought to be entertaining
Entertaining to who? If I'm entertained and you are not is the film/book bad? If you are entertained but I am not is it good? If we are both entertained but a third isn't? Obviously every work of art is going to be divisive and will not entertain or bore everyone equally. That's even assuming that books/films must (or even should) always be entertaining, which I don't. Maybe some art should make you feel uncomfortable, bored, disgusted, etc.

>> No.13304859

>>13304818
well, shakespeare wrote for the groundlings, for the unscholarly globe patrons who walked in from the cockfight on the street. and homer's audiences were crass and anti-intellectual.
who mentioned star wars?

>>13304818
>dismissing specific works
which specific works?

>Obviously every work of art is going to be divisive and will not entertain or bore everyone equally.
obviously, which is why welles questions why is there this absolute unanimity and certainty that everybody has about everything. everyone agrees on what is classic and what is not.

>> No.13304873

>>13304818
>maybe some art should be boring
No.

Everything else you've said yes.

>> No.13304945

>>13304783
>Its a valid criticism. You're deluded if you feel otherwise.
Nobody who saw 2001 in theaters in 1968 would have called it boring in a million years, but to a modern audience it's painfully slow. What does that have to do with the artistic integrity of the movie? Literally nothing and you're a deluded low-attention span millennial if you feel otherwise.

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For me it's Visconti,Rocco E i suoi Fratelli

>> No.13305061

>>13304859
>which specific works?
See: >>13304346

I don't disagree with you that the classics should be treated critically, I disagree that calling something boring is a valuable critique, even if it is truly boring for that individual. 90% of Americans would find Moby Dick boring, that doesn't make it a bad novel.

>> No.13305090

>>13304873
Fair enough. I should have said that good art CAN be boring for certain people, not SHOULD be boring.

>> No.13305200

>>13294142
Screenplays are literature, retard.

>>13294092
That movie fucking sucked.

>>13294082
Wim Wender's City of Angels, or Paris, Texas, or Until the End of the World. Watch any of those three.

>> No.13305264

>>13305061
if i'd found moby dick boring, that would make it a bad novel. on my terms anyway, and those are the only terms anybody knows - his own.

>> No.13305413

>>13294379
I don’t get it

>> No.13305652

>>13304794
> Shakespeare, Homer and Cervantes didnt write schlock for low IQ plebs, they wrote high class entertainment for the upper rungs of society.

>> No.13305671

>>13304945
> “modern audience” is a single entity
What's more important, you are part of it.

>> No.13305686

>>13305413
> so short of time he can't even watch an acclaimed masterpiece

>> No.13305687

>>13296794
The Lion King

>> No.13305711

>>13296994
my video diary desu.

>> No.13305734

>>13294204
you sound like an intellectual. are you?

>> No.13305753

>>13296794
surely an adaption of hamlet

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somebody recommended this here a while ago too and it's one of the best that I've seen for a really, really long time. Wim Wenders is good shit. Paris, Texas of his is also mandatory viewing

>> No.13305862

>>13296794
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead

>> No.13305881

>>13305862
Accept my deepest sympathy.

>> No.13306900

>>13303938
Platform is his best I reckon
Also ash is the purest white is decent

>> No.13306907

>>13305200
>Wim Wender's City of Angels, or Paris, Texas, or Until the End of the World. Watch any of those three.
My favourite wim wenders is kings of the road. That's one of my favourite films

>> No.13306950

LES ENFANTS DU PARADIS
CHILDREN OF PARADIS
/lit/, how has this never been mentioned?

>> No.13306967

>>13304945
>Nobody who saw 2001 in theaters in 1968 would have called it boring in a million years
Google it. They were.

>> No.13307123

>>13300634
8 chanz film board is decent but slow

>> No.13307157

>>13296227

The Meyerowitz Stories is brilliant. I also really enjoyed While We're Young

>> No.13307219

Please recommend some /lit/ movies if I like linguistics and anthropology. Stuff like Aguirre and Embrace of the Serpent is more than welcome

>> No.13307452

Anybody here seen Duck you sucker

>> No.13307503

>>13307219
Lost City of Z is good
Jauja maybe, although you might find it too slow

>> No.13307540

I mostly watch silents and early colour/sound films. The keystones of that period would be Griffith, Stroheim, Sternberg, Demille, Murnau, Eisenstein and Chaplin for silents; Renoir, Rossellini, Ray, Bunuel and Lubitsch (Ford and Welles are good too, but they're on the second tier). For more modern directors, I quite like Ferrara, Mann, Godard and Altman.

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Love wins.

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13307566

I watched Das Boot last night and now I am obsessed with submarines.

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>>13301785
you realise most people on earth unironically hate jews, right?

>> No.13307667

>>13307660
I'm literally Jewish yet have never experienced anti-antisemitism outside of 4chan. Some people make jokes but you can tell that it's just jokes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOM3Ck9hhV4

>In pain? You must know that torture's important, Wallace... 'cause it lifts the morale of the torturer. Didn't they teach you that at the university? You are trapped by your higher education. It leaves its own smell on you. I know it too well.
>I know you do and I can't imagine how a man of your background could...
>On the contrary, what's surprising is that a man like me... could remain all those years watching life as a spectator... before he discovered the force that was in him. Do you have any idea what can be accomplished here if you're a man of intelligence? Where brutish morons have succeeded in usurping the power in the land?
>Yes, he'd certainly be in a position to improve things. But not a weak man like Brett Fletcher. You change your spots. You're civilized among civilized people and violent among the violent. You're quite ready to adapt to any new background like a parasite.
>Pity you didn't pay attention at school, Wallace. The philosophy of violence. You recall it? One violent soul is just an outlaw... a hundred a gang. A hundred thousand... an army. That is the point. Beyond the confines that limit the outlaw and individual criminal... violence by masses of men is called history. I must say that I'm glad I've been able to speak with an equal who understands me. Those others are only able to understand the simplest things. Such as the fact that a spy pays the penalty. [cocks revolver] Reasons of state, Wallace. You studied history so you know what I mean. Not out of hate... but with compassion. [gunshot]

>> No.13307670

>>13307667
that's because you live in the part of the world that isn't the "most people on earth" area

>> No.13307673

>>13307670
And you do? No one even thinks of them as different than white people outside the West

>> No.13307678

>>13307673
>imagine believing this

>> No.13307679

>>13307673
why are you so hell-bent on proving that people don't hate jews?
that's quite telling, don't you think?

>> No.13307691

>>13307668
Its the movie Faccua a faccia?

>> No.13307701

>>13307503
Thank you

>> No.13307732

>>13307673
We counting the middle east and China as "the west" now huh?

>> No.13307756

>>13307667
these days I've learned it is better to not waste my breath arguing with certain people about certain subjects, or getting pissed off about idiots being idiots. every time I come to a place full of idiots, and find myself saying to myself "jesus christ, what fucking idiots!" I am always forgetting that I knew it was full of fucking idiots, but then I still chose to come and speak about certain topics that I knew agitated certain idiots. there are some good people, too. take the good, leave the rest. some shit is not worth it. what percentage of the shit people talk about or do online is a complete waste of time, or worse?

>> No.13307793

>>13307691
Yes, same writer as once upon a time in the west and duck you sucker.

>> No.13307985

>>13301226
Persona
The Silence
Fanny and Alexander
Cries and Whispers
Summer with Monika
Through a Glass Darkly

>> No.13308012

>>13307452
Yeah! My dad was a big western fan and I watched a lot of these movies, Coburn was one of my favorite actors at the time

>> No.13308242

>>13307985
Cries and Whispers is awful though, by far his worst film and almost like a parody of a Bergman film. Like a Bergman film described in a Woody Allen film. No wonder Americans loved it and gave it the Oscar. All the others you mentioned are great though, especially fanny and alexander.

>> No.13308368

>>13308242
>Like a Bergman film described in a Woody Allen film
i'd take that over a bergman film any day