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Last thread hit bump limit

>> No.13287350
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>>13287339
now someone re write that first paragraph from Land's Meltdown
I would do it but I am masturbating

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what are some /burgerpunk/ jobs?

>> No.13287360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkmHmMa4C0o

>> No.13287432

>>13287352
Call center doing low level technical support. Data entry. Real estate (any of it). Stock broker. HTML code monkey. Graphic designer. Teacher at an inner city school. Trucker. Basically anything after offshoring starts (circa 1970s) but before web 3.0 takes off in earnest (2007 or so, roughly coinciding with the financial crisis, when all the "good" office jobs started to become dead-ends).

>> No.13287446

>>13287350
land is not burgerpunk

>> No.13287460

>>13287339

I feel like this thread wouldve been been beeding cutting edge in 2005, like it wouldve inspired/breathed life into a whole new generation of burgerpunk fiction and ideas.

>> No.13287461

>>13287339
So have we discerned what Burgerpunk actually is yet? My understanding was basically that it encompassed the Clinton years to around Occupy Wall Street and was characterized by a large middle class heavily oriented around the F.I.R.E. economy. Basically the mentality that we had before the emergence of vaporwave and the realization that the world was never going to be one big harmonious multicultural shopping mall. Am I understanding it correctly?

>>13287432
>>13287352
Would also throw in working in broadcast media in any capacity. The industry was in a unique place of having relatively low costs for production and distribution while still having a comparative monopoly on the market (contrast with the emergence of Youtube in 2005, which was sort of the writing on the wall). Also, Walmart.

>> No.13287473
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>Burgerpunk is the aesthetic reconciliation of the post-modernist individual recognizing the cognitive dissonance between the vast nature of corporate service-based globalization and the individualist nature of consumption forced upon them by the very nature and propaganda of their capitalist benefactors. The genre's backdrop explores the conflict between traditional american sensibilities inflated to a caricature by exaggerated use of freeway systems, suburban growth, and franchise based food products against the cynical nature of the average american blooming into a genuine need for individualized and personalized culture after slowly exchanging their ancestor's cultural heritage for their own force-fed culture of ease of access and frugality. Issues of hopelessness, automation, and complacency contrast the information provided through constant access to media and propagandized geopolitical news. The genre itself, becoming a meta commentary on other fantasy or science fiction based genres by using the actual occurring landscape as the basis for literary escape.

>> No.13287475

>>13287460
It seems like it's more like a vaporwave movement - something we only come to understand retroactively. It wouldn't have mattered in 2005 because we would have been living in it. At the time, it was just Francis Fukuyama selling airport literature to the business class and Sid Meier's subtle insistence that "The future will be better tomorrow."

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>>13287475

Maybe, but unlike vaporwave its something more tangebale like how some people would look out of there window and see OPs pic not as an aesthetic but a living breathing reality bombarding their senses with what they innately know as a ploy to get the money they work there asses of for maybe even in one of the businesses there looking at.

Its never the oppressive nature of the ugly comfort this abomination of an image this retrospection gives that's explored tho the population would've found as depressing propaganda anyway except for the few fiction writers that might've romanticized its absurdity fiction wise in an entertaining and inspiring way instead of the cold soulless calculative books that were marketing ploys to capitalize of the above mentioned oppressiveness which were published on the subject at the time

>> No.13287580

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NEaYAmDMHSmEDzB96Etxe52DAA61rjmBQVfSno_akgk/edit?usp=sharing

jump in here and help riff off this aesthetic

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>>13287350
The story goes like this: Genesis is captured by a ziocapital Jerusoularity as balabusta neorationalitization and farblondjet navigation lock into shekelization take-off. Logistically exodizing bummerkeh-economic interactivity kosherizes social neocockamamy in auto-kitschicating mechutanista runaway. As shtetls learn to manufacture Yiddisher kop, Pardes modernizes, upgrades kvetchoplexy, and tries to gematrize Eruvstition.

>> No.13287595

>>13287580

bruh

>> No.13287596

>>13287572
Pseud: The Post

>> No.13287604

>>13287352
Overnight stocking at a supermarket

>> No.13287605

>>13287596

meh

>> No.13287606

>>13287604
Amazon warehouse drone.

>> No.13287624

>>13287604
>>13287606
You guys are missing the aesthetic completely. Read the original thread.

>> No.13287627
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I was trying to make a chart last night, but couldn't figure out the best direction to take it in.
How many books? How should it be organized? What topic should it focus on? Should it be limited to books? etc.

Would appreciate any insights you could provide.

>> No.13287631

>>13287624
Compile it into a pamphlet and spread it across town why don't you.

>> No.13287668

>>13287580
Why is there no chat function? I write footnotes better when people are screaming at me that they don't need footnotes.

>> No.13287732

>>13287473
>burgerpunk frugality?
America is excess. What frugality? Frigidity maybe but only compared to wanton yurop.

>>13287624
The original thread, >>13274166

>> No.13287774

>>13287580
>“Hey Jen why not log on past midnight and help us develop this Burgerpunk aesthetic?” he whined cooly through the McChatApp as he poured himself another few fingers of the bottom shelf margarita mix, his sunglasses adjusting themselves, somehow nerdily. Leftenant Jackson was not his favorite rum, and that was all they had left before the bombaders came to restock the McBooze Drive Thru Carwash. He didn’t have enough Buddy Bucks to pick up the tequila or tipple sec to go along with it so he decided on pure vitriolic hate to get through the bottle.
>He ripped a fat, sick cloud from his Hundo Vape box. “Couuuuuuuuuuuugh pfft huyik,” he coughed to himself, pitifully before he started burping margarita mix up. His almond tomato cheesy surprise vape juice didn’t mix well with straight margarita mix, who would have known.


What the actual fuck

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>>13287580
>mfw watching /lit/bros hilariously edit this in real time while i sip my tea

>> No.13287797

>>13287732
>America is excess. What frugality?
postmodernity is implosion of poles. excess and frugality become one.

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>What the fricking heck? Says Swift in pre-Reddito rustbelt dialect. She yanks out her earbuds and throws away her iPod, where it lands on the manicured, All-American 100% Kosher Front Lawn™.

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>>13287446
He kinda is. There's something inhuman about the burger-punk aesthetic. Dirty freeways snaking everywhere and soul consuming urban planning replacing everything is how we apprehend the causal tendrils which allow the AI singularity to arrive from the future to consume us. Burger-punk is neoChina's retarded cousin.

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Post some burgerpunk albums.

>> No.13287856

>>13287829
>maroon 5: songs about jane
>huey lewis and the news: fore
>Linkin Park: meteora
>jackson 5: Dancing Machine
Brian Eno: Another Green World

>> No.13287869

>>13287824
>There's something inhuman about the burger-punk aesthetic
jews

>> No.13287887

>>13287869
more like burgers

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>>13287829
Don't wanna wait til tomorrow...

>> No.13287903

>>13287775
There's like 50 pages now. I can't keep up footnotes for all of it.*


>*He had far more important things to do, but he had no desire or motivation to get anything else done tonight.

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>>13287829
Hey, j-j-jaded...

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>>13287589
>we now doing fastfood roleplay

>> No.13287974

>In the year 2019 the McDonalds Corporation’s legal counsel sent a memo to the board, informing them of the current state of Supreme Court jurisprudence. The in house counsel, having outsourced their actual work, spent their time crafting an argument that, because corporations had rights as regular persons, the McDonalds corporation could run for president. It was put to a vote by the board and approved by the major majority of shareholders that it would conduct a pilot test of running for president.
>The same memo provided that, because money was considered speech, they could, in fact, provide a free small drink with proof of voting for Mcdonalds.
The election of 2020 was by far the most one sided election in the history of the united states. Under the new BurgerParty, Mcdonalds ushered in a new era of corporate control. >Leading to what is now known as…
>Burgerpunk

>> No.13287979

>>13287604
>Overnight stocking
That's a great fucking job, daytime stocking is much more burgerpunk. Dealing with shitty customers is quintessentially burgerpunk.

>> No.13288018

>>13287948
hello Anon... this is john tron. it appears some nigger has deleted us.

>> No.13288034

Throw an F in the footnotes for that beautiful work of McArt.

>> No.13288039

>>13288018
I did the performance of both anon and pewdiepie. Had a fun time with you. Until next time

>> No.13288056

>>13288039
stay gold ponyboy

>> No.13288061

jew's rock fuck ham

>> No.13288063

>It was past noon when Harry managed to flag down a ride. A late-model SUV with a stick figure family on the back windshield. Harry noticed something unusual about the stick figure family: each member wore a Chinese-style rice paddy hat.
>“Ruh-roh,” Harry gulped.
>The family invited him into their sports utility vehicle, and he sat in the middle row, on a mound of hay, between two precocious Chinese children. One child played with an abacus, while the other caught flies with its chopsticks.
>“LOL,” said Harry.
>“Ror where?” replied the Father who drove extremely poorly. Harry suspected his eyes were opened but couldn’t tell for sure.
>Minutes passed that way.
>Just as Harry became comfortable and things quieted, the family’s dog leapt out happily from the back and into Harry’s lap.
>“OH he rick you arr over!” the Mother laughed. “Teeheehee!”
>“I didn’t know you Chinamen kept pets,” Harry said in between getting licked.
>“He’s not a pet,” the father corrected him, sternly.
>And just like that Harry had made new friends.

Too good for this shit world.

>> No.13288069

>>13287627
Middle-class striver magazines are burgerpunk. Think Dwell, Sunset, The Economist.

Any piece of media that can be found in a Hudson News at an international airport.

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>>13288063

>> No.13288081

>>13288063
>“He’s not a pet,” the father corrected him, sternly.
alright, you got a laugh out of me

>> No.13288109

>>13287580
the deletion kiddies got bored and left if anon wants to hop back in

>> No.13288125

Is burgerpunk supposed to be endearing or horrifying? I tend not to go outside, but whenever walking around Walmart or other soul-sucking areas, it's mortifying to consider the flesh and tools utilized to create that situation. It feels as if you would have to be weakened in some way to accept the aesthetic in your arms.

>> No.13288131

>>13287829
>Britney Spears: ...Baby One More Time
i wanna say something by madonna but idk enough about her. I feel like American Idiot is about burgerpunk america but i don't think it fits the aesthetic.

>> No.13288154

>>13288125
Both. See:
>>13287473

>> No.13288193

lol what is with the /n/ posters?

>> No.13288199

>>13287974
Hmm... stealing this, writing a novel

>> No.13288215

>>13288199
Everyone keeps saying they’re stealing my ideas in the burgerPunk threads. I guess it’s true what they say:
>have it your way

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>burgerpunk

>> No.13288246

>>13288220
It has begun. Someone better publish soon.

>> No.13288291

D E V O!

>> No.13288297

>>13287350
What are you fapping to?

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>>13287473

Most of that paragraph could be applied to this painting, does that make it burger punk?

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>>13288193
car culture created burgerpunk
kill all cagers

>> No.13288385

>>13288299
That's the kind of art they buy in bulk to put in freeway side motels. So yes.

>> No.13288397

>>13287360
This is the best trailer for my country I have ever seen

>> No.13288407

>>13288299
Isn't that painting series an advertise for cigarrettes?

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wow, good job guys

>> No.13288424

>>13287627
It would be great if you had different stems going down through Nonfiction, Fiction, and whole publications (online and off) as >>13288069 says.

Alternatively, you could organize it top-down from basic burger texts (the ones which most succinctly capture the mood & gripes of the genre) toward branches that encapsulate some of its finer-grained elements - but preserve the fiction, nonfiction divides through color coding or some other trick.

What are some of the works you expect to put on it? I don't know much about this genre but am intrigued after reading about it on here.

>> No.13288426

>>13287352
Night club bartender

>> No.13288447

>>13288424
I would organize it like this
>bun
>lettuce
>tomato
>pickle
>onion
>patty
>bun

>> No.13288456

/lit/ created a new genre

Holy fuck

>> No.13288466

>>13288347
Pedestrian right of way is an american only thing though isn’t it?

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>>13288385

fair enough

>>13288407

the original was made by an artist (pic related) that spawned dozens of copycats as well as marketing campaigns, the advertisement you talk of probably jumped on the bandwagon.

>> No.13288581

>manager of chain hotel is so good at his job, corporate sends him from place to place to do training seminars in the hotel ballrooms. But everywhere it’s the same. Every holiday in is just like the last. His wife files for divorce and takes the kids back home to New England with her parents, but it turns out his next assignment is in New England too. Coordinates his staff of obese night workers to have an anniversary party
>but every part of the anniversary is burgerpunk because they live in a small town
>Applebee’s for dinner but little league just won the championship and all the kids are there
>sports bar for drinks but the game is on
>1 star hotel room with hbo charged separately but there’s a dental convention going on
>he takes her to the local tourist attraction
>the largest parking lot in North America
>the car breaks down
>lost and abandoned in the worlds largest parking lot they slowly overheat in the car
>she tragically died of heat exhaustion in his arms before a helicopter arrives
>now a single father he must go back to his job as the manager, without the travel so his son can stay at one school.
>he learns that home is where your family is, and as such creates a series of dvd lectures on how to become a better manager, it’s a total pyramid scheme and he steals a lot of money from people
>pays for his sons college and retired in Miami

>> No.13288598

>>13288581
10/10
Sorry to hear about your life, at least your dad was cool

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It was very briefly mentioned in the previous thread, but Baudrillard's America seems quintessential burgerpunk, at least in its content (Baudrillard's dense writing style is maybe the opposite of burger)

Some examples :

>The skylines lit up at dead of night, the air-conditioning systems cooling empty hotels in the desert and artificial light in the middle of the day all have something both demented and admirable about them. The mindless luxury of a rich civilization, and yet of a civilization perhaps as scared to see the lights go out as was the hunter in his primitive night.

>There is nothing more mysterious than a TV set left on in an empty room. It is even stranger than a man talking to himself or a woman standing dreaming at her stove. It is as if another planet is communicating with you.

>Nothing evokes the end of the world more than a man running straight ahead on a beach, swathed in the sounds of his walkman . . . Primitives, when in despair, would commit suicide by swimming out to sea until they could swim no longer. The jogger commits suicide by running up and down the beach. His eyes are wild, saliva drips from his mouth. Do not stop him.

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So it’s Idiocracy, but more grimdark and everyone is aware they are in it?

>> No.13288611

>>13287829
Brian Eno: music for airports (1,2 and 3)

>> No.13288622
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>>13287829
I Also Want to Die in New Orleans

The great American tradition of storytelling combined with the great American tradition of half-assing the entire thing

>> No.13288625

>>13288609
it's idiocracy but in the modern day, not the future

>> No.13288629

>>13288609
The hero is aware that he's in it, but presumably most of the other characters live in the delusion that they "enjoy" what the advertisers demand they enjoy.

>> No.13288636

>>13288600
Jesus Christ. Thank you, cipher dubs, I'm adding this to my list.

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>>13288625
Yeah.
>>13288629
So a bit of They Live in there too?

>> No.13288672

>>13287974
Fucking genius. Now have The USMcD start buying out other countries' foreign debt and foreclosing or asset stripping.

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>>13288670
Or demolition man.

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>>13288680
Or clerks 2

>> No.13288698

>>13288693
is Big Lebowski low-key Burgerpunk?

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>> No.13288704

>>13287339

Is the unibombers manifesto then anti-burgerpunk?

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>>13288698
I think so.

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>>13288707
Also Good Burger.

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>>13288724
Lost in translation is like Foreign BurgerPunk

>> No.13288736
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katana-tier burgerpunk

>> No.13288740

>>13288731
so ricepunk?

>> No.13288744
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>>13288731
Breaking bad shows the depths men will go to when confronted with BurgerPunk.

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13288746

Did someone say Burgerpunk?

>> No.13288749

>>13288740
sushipunk? rice sounds too simple and trad

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>>13288736
Fuck. Yes.
>>13288740
Don’t the Japs eat KFC for Christmas or something?


Also pulp fiction has some tasty BurgerPunk.

>> No.13288758

>>13288746
>cyberpunk with no computers and normal cars instead of flying cars
Yep, that's burgerpunk.

>> No.13288765

>>13288600
>demented and admirable
>mindless
>nothing more mysterious
>nothing evokes ... more than
Too much telling you what to think rather than showing you.

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>>13288758
Don't forget the generic-brand everything.

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I think this is too literal.

>> No.13288783

fuck this thread and all burgers pushing this "genre"

>> No.13288785

>>13288731
scarlett johansson was probably thinking
>wow, japan is actually developed and not just an ocean of suburban shitholes

>> No.13288792

>>13288783
t. sophisticated european gentleman

>> No.13288842

>>13288783
It’s already here. It’s all the art that’s been made in the past 30 years, just now there’s a name for it. It has become aware of itself. You’ve already been drowning in burgers, euro.

>> No.13288844

>>13288765
exactly, which is why its burgerpunk in content but not in style. think of it as 'burgerpunk theory'.

>> No.13288851

>>13287974
>BurgerParty
McDonald's sell sandwiches, not burgers.

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>>13288844
>BurgerPunk theory

My fucking sides. For what is the platonic form of BurgerPunk? For it could not be burgers! As I could simply go eat a burger! Hoho, dear anonymous, nor is simply punk, for what burger can wear liberty spikes and black flag shirts? So then anon, we ask again! What form taketh the burger punk?

>> No.13288859

>>13288858
better than fat studies desu

>> No.13288863

>>13288851
In the expanded universe the burger party is a collective of political representatives made up of other food providers like Burger King, Wendy’s, Arbies, wataburger, etc. who all also take up political leadership after replacing the 2 political parties. Now the other parties are made up of specified economic interest, eg. tech, energy, finance.

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>>13288783
Enhance your calm, citizen. There is no need to be upset.

>> No.13288871

>>13287580
a postmodern masterpiece

>> No.13288880
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>> No.13288882

Burgerpunk is just the schizophrenic hallucinations of the homeless guy living behind the gas station.

>> No.13288884
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13288884

r8 my burgerpunk cover

>> No.13288887

>>13288884
not kitsch enough, i'm afraid

>> No.13288902

>>13288884
I like it, but the top image just isn’t big enough on the scale. Also it needs a Waffle House. Maybe if the top half had as nice a clean cut as your sky blue to white which makes me hard as far as color plate and layout goes. There’s something that just isn’t corporate enough. It looks more like a documentary about poor city planning.

>> No.13288905

>>13287732
>What frugality?
The quote doesn't mean the frugality of not buying, and saving up your money.

The quote refers to excess, achieved through the frugality of outsourced slave labor with no labor or human rights
>and we pass the savings on to you!

>> No.13288913

>>13288902
I just need some better Burgerpunk images.

>> No.13288915

>>13288884
Looks too 2015. Make it look 2004.

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>>13288913

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Ghostworld is burgerpunk kino

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>>13288929

>> No.13288938

>>13287339
THE RICH
what part do they play in the BurgerPunk aesthetic?
obviously the rich aren't in malls, wallmarts, BurgerKings and Applebees and on freeways, etc.
how to place / describe them / their roles?

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>>13288931

>> No.13288945

>>13288931
Thats quite a foreboding Waffle House

>> No.13288960

>>13287339
Houston is prime BurgerPunk

>> No.13288963

>>13287580
this generations On the Road

>> No.13288969

>>13288938
what's """high"""brow burgerpunk? late night shows?

>> No.13288973

>>13287350
Terrible habit to have, one that is hell to get rid of and will rob you of your prime. Stop, it only gets worse. The idea that it goes away with age is a meme.

>> No.13288977

>>13287352
Amazon warehouse
Starbucks barista
Walmart greeter
Polo-clad waiter at that restaurant where you have to clap at anyone who says it's their birthday
Nominal student financed by their boomer parents who consumes products of all aforementioned establishments.

>> No.13288978

>>13288938
I don't see any reason they couldn't be completely out of sight, just like in real life. maybe the rich don't even exist and we're all just playing this game for our imaginary masters.

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>>13287352
fast food workers

>> No.13288987

>>13288969
Snarky coastal tv
Pundit books
The New Yorker / Economist
NPR

>> No.13288993

>>13288969
>what's `````high`````brow burgerpunk? late night shows?
great answer. exactly in the direction of the aesthetic. and yes.

Hamilton and FKIN RENT and other musicals to appease rich whitey and make them feel cool and urban
$25k Oscars viewing parties where you mingle with mostly female family members of Russian and Azerbaijani oligarchs in a small hotel room with shitty free champagne watching everything from the Tv.
BMW-siri assistant that always connects to your wife's bluetooth and NEVER YOURS GODDAMNIT
MacbookAirProStandPlus for $1.5k. "It's actually cheap if you think of it as an investment."

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>>13288884
British subgenre tescopunk checking in

>> No.13289001

>>13288993
I think Tesla the car is pretty burgerpunk, too. mostly for the type of people that buy them.

>> No.13289002

>>13288983
being ironic about slowly killing yourself through overconsumption is peak burgerpunk

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>tfw SpongeBob was actually peak BurgerPunk aesthetic but too young to realize

>> No.13289006

>>13288998
Wheres the Muslims?

>> No.13289008

>>13288998
I can understand that.

>> No.13289010

>>13289006
There's a kee-bahb shop right there.

>> No.13289012

Most burgerpunk scene in cinema history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGOOL6j_F8

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>>13288998
Have you ever watched the animation show 'Monkey Dust'? That's peak Tescopunk right there.

>> No.13289026

>>13289017
The "monkey dust" documentary I just found trying to find it fits the bill, too.

>> No.13289053

>>13289017
I love European apartment complexes. Very dystopian

>> No.13289058

This just in: mass shooting at Bed Bath & Beyond in Columbino, New Texas leaving 9 dead, 17 injured, and causing thousands of dollars in property damage.

>> No.13289075

>>13289058
BURGERKINO

>> No.13289097

>>13288997

Bruger?

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>>13289097
FUCK

>> No.13289141

>>13289119
The below image doesn't add much, in my opinion. We already have McDo imagery and burgerpunk in writing

Perhaps a Wall-Mart, K-Mart, or Exxon Mobil, or maybe a row of dentist//plastic surgeon/family doctor/pediatrician/injury lawyers/divorce lawyers / gold4cash /

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>> No.13289170

>>13289157
Fite me

>> No.13289319

bump

>> No.13289425

Black culture is alien, black people are alien.
Latinos are aliens, their culture is alien.
Christians and Christianity are alien
So are jews and judaism and muslim and islam
White people are aliens too
And they are all equally American.

Where I feel home: eating at PF Chang's after playing playstation for free at BestBuy in the same mall
The smell of food courts still nostalgia

>> No.13289444

What differentiates burgerpunk from general late stage capitalism and American neoliberalism?

>> No.13289447

>>13287352
IT work for large organization like a hospital

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>>13289444

Burgerpunk is unapologetic about its true nature, whereas general late stage capitalism often attempts to hide behind a veneer of narrative and direction

>> No.13289525

Learning from Las Vegas is essential non-fic Burgerpunk.

>> No.13289585

The only person who could expose me to any culture beyond suburbia is our cleaner, who only talks to mom, and even then, barely.

I always catch glimpses of her skyping her family on her (may as well be) brandless phone. There's always so many people, of all ages, bunched up together, with a peasant backdrop of a colorful wallpaper, religious paraphanaelia and spanish Tv on.

Their silences don't feel awkward. Their silences feel like they are spending time looking at each other

None of my brain can figure out any references.
Who owns that house and how many people live in there?
How many cars do they drive? Are they too poor for cars?
Her kid is wearing a light green graphic tee and black nike shorts. Did they get those shorts at Nike? Probably not, right? Are all their clothes second hand?
Does her kid have a playstation? Does he know God of War?
Does he like going to Disneyland?

>> No.13289592

>>13288931
>>13288929
Remember that burgerpunk can't be overtly sinister or dramatically lit. It's all about that flatness.

>> No.13289673

>>13289444
Burgerpunk isn't self-aware at all. It's just authentically doing its asphalt, strip-mall thing. Late capitalism knows its time is running short and lashes out.

>> No.13289677

>>13289444
>>13289478
also, burgerpunk is specific to America. In England, the quality of the meat at Burger King is the same as what you find at the store. (really, the chickens are so juicy at Burger King) But, that also means that the price is the same too.

So in England, for example, the poor go to kebaaaab places for cheap calories to feed their families. And there's no multi-billion dollar global kebaab conglomerate.

>> No.13289688

Im a burgerpunk, in a burger worooorrlllddd, eating micro plastic! Its Fantastic!

>> No.13289705

>Why TF did I think it would ever be a good idea to travel to fkin Cambodia
>muh cheap ticket prices, muh travel is good for the soul
>tfw it's monsoon season and it hasn't stopped raining for AN HOUR
>tfw don't wanna eat any of that dirty street shit soup
>walking no luck trying to find a damn RESTAURANT that doesn't have people squatting to eat chicken noodle soup with sticks
>finally, in the distance, like a prophet appears my saviour: the letter "M" in bright yellow-gold, with contrasting red walls and large glass windows.
>I feel saved. It is almost as if this franchise multi-billion dollar international conglomerate is smiling back at me.


is this what it's like to believe in a religion?

>> No.13289759

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kmart_realism

>> No.13289775

The Burger of the Dead, for Ezra Quarter Pounder

April is the hungriest month, breeding
Mustard out of the dead patties, mixing
Ketchup and desire, stirring
Coca-Cola with spring rain.
Burgers kept us fed, covering
Golden arches in snow, feeding
A little life on a highway side.
Summer surprised us, coming over Starbucks
With a shower of coffee; we stopped in the chain store,
And went on in sunlight, into the iHop,
And drank coffee, and talked for an hour.
Ich bin überhaupt nicht hungrig, ich komme aus Litauen, eine Raststätte.
And when we were children, staying at the ball-pit,
My cousin, he took me to Chuck-E-Cheese,
And I was frightened. He said, Marie,
Marie, hold on tight. And down we went.
In the shopping malls, there you feel free.
I buy, much of the night, and go south in the winter.

>> No.13289779

>>13289775
>Ezra quarter pounder

Fuckin ell

>> No.13289785

>>13289759
look again

>> No.13289793

>>13289785
It's official now.

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>>13289793
i wonder how lung until the mods change it back

>> No.13289821

>>13289759
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kmart_realism
Aight so this brilliant idea from this niche corner of the internet was actually from 30 years ago.

What do you call this phenomenon?
That thing where you think you invented something, but somebody else has already invented it? But instead of "you" and "something," it's "anyone" and "anything?"
Basically I'm asking if there's a hoighty toighty academic word for there being no OC anymore.

>> No.13289827

>>13287829
cLOUDDEAD- s/t is like a hazy dream of a pre-9/11 America

>> No.13289845

>>13289821
Ecclesiastes 1:9

>> No.13289895

>>13289845
Ya sure and also rule 36 and whatnot
But I want what academians are calling it.
And it must be especially true in this day and age.

AND AND AND

If academians aren't calling it anything yet, that would be a betrayal of this phenomenon itself.

>> No.13289896

Nightcrawler is a top tier burgerpunk film

>> No.13289897

>>13289895
I think Hauntology fits the description

>In the 2000s, the term was taken up by critics in reference to paradoxes found in late modernity, particularly contemporary culture's persistent recycling of retro aesthetics and incapacity to escape old social forms.[3] Critics such as Mark Fisher and Simon Reynolds used the term to describe art preoccupied with this temporal disjunction and defined by a "nostalgia for lost futures."[2]

>> No.13289907

how do i dress burgerpunk?

>> No.13289910

>>13289907
Basically wear your uniform 24/7 with some ironic anime jacket

>> No.13289913

>>13289907
Denim

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this is the most burgerpunk show ever made imo, nothing but sprawling suburbia and highways, hanging out in parking lots, all form of youth rebellion distorted into breaking shit and annoying your parents, released during the Iraq War, yet completely apolitical and disjointed from any outside world beyond their house and car

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>>13289910
hows this?

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>>13289907

>> No.13289931

>>13289922

this is just a random streetwear fit you'll find in any larger city, burgercore is washed out jeans and a t-shirt with an eagle on it

>> No.13289940

>>13289929
Is Diners, Drive-ins, & Dives burgerpunk?
Watching it feels like an act of comfy excess.

>> No.13289943

>>13289931
alright i'll hit up goodwill and see what i can find

>dickies
>streetwear
idk about that

>> No.13289945

>>13289922
Add in some aviators and a beanie and your good to go

>> No.13289950

If The Pale King had been finished it would have been peak burgerpunk. As it is, it's a nice read that I would recommend to anyone on /lit/ that hasn't read it.

>> No.13289966

>>13289759
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kmart_realism

put this in anon >>13287473

>> No.13289972

>>13289950
How unfinished is it?

>> No.13289976

>>13289897
>Hauntology fits the description
not.at.all.
you seriously need to work on your reading comprehension, anon

>> No.13289977

>>13289907
>>13289910
>>13289913
I would argue that these recommendations miss the aesthetic.

The correct Burgerpunk attire is the American version of the Adidas slav.
Baggy Shorts and flipflops, [university] sweater, and [sportsteam] hat for winter, spring, and fall.
Summer line is baggy shorts and graphic tee, and hat.

>> No.13289985

>>13289976

yeah forreal we need to be careful with defining the parameters of burgerpunk, it has hauntological attributes (think of highway bed n breakfasts having a bible in every room) but its far closer to baudrillards thoughts on simulacrum

>> No.13289986

>>13289972
It feels like it ends as it finishes setting up all of the plot threads that were going to be explored in further depth. I read that what was published is about half of what DFW left behind, after being organized and sorted through by his publisher.
I would love to see the material that didn't make it into the "final" product, but even as it is I still recommend giving it a read.

>> No.13289988

>>13289917
i hate that fucking prick and i always changed channels when this came on.

>> No.13290005

>>13289940
Any reality Tv series centered around food is
OBVIOUS BURGERPUNK.

An American asking if "Diners, Drive-ins, & Dives is burgerpunk?'
IS PEAK BURGERPUNK

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>> No.13290015

>>13290005

bullshit any show about fine dining in nyc or sf would never be burgerpunk

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>> No.13290051

>>13290006
Everytime I see a chainstore, I always think of the big fat rich mofo owning it.

A spacious gas station, and a distinct Exxon logo, in the middle of two European cities and forests and highways where it does not fit in any way. I just see my car as driving into the big fat mouth of the obese Ceo for gas.

and I see that Tesco logo, next to brick n mortar council houses built a century ago. I go in, and I feel like I'm entering between the coattails of a rich obese man's tux.

I really am curious about the all-consuming American style of consumption, where there's no distinct city or culture to seperate from the conglomerates.

>> No.13290057

Burgerpunk restores the reality to the coke bottle, in seeing it as a coke-que-coke, and not some abstract commodity. A Burger King sign is taken from it's natural habitat, as a signifier of cheap food, and becomes a work of art, an aesthetic, an image beyond 'branding.'

>> No.13290064

>>13287352
I feel like repo man or mall cop would fit

>> No.13290092

>>13290015
good point, but emphasis on reality tv.

I'm not talking about Anthony Bourdain dining with a Taiwanese immigrant grandma in Chinatown talking about Tianmnenmennmn square.

I'm talking about reality tv shows about food that have colorful graphics on the side, like those MTV date bus shows.
Gordon Ramsey yellin at brown people for cooking a shitty chinchoriquito and fake tension
Advertisements for "new york classics" like shitty overpriced T-bone places on Broadway street.

Burgerpunk doesn't apply that well to cities, where it becomes more "lost in translation" or "late capitalism" esque, but I think it can still exist.

>> No.13290109

>>13290057
that's literally popart. >>13290057

Is Burgerpunk naive, oblivious, or aware and uncaring, or perhaps satisfied? (of the corporate stranglehold on mass culture)
Does Burgerpunk still enjoy McDonalds? Did he enjoy McDonald's playground with those shitty green purple yellow slides and things?

>> No.13290110

>>13287580
>"The two rode on several minutes, still in an indistinct hellscape that most resembled an Oklahoman sewage boulevard - some freeway overpass, criss-crossed with unnecessary light and by people even less necessary. “Americans” they called themselves, when it was convenient. A blur of abandoned malls and payday loan offices could be seen from the passenger’s side window."
This is getting comfy.

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>>13290092

alright, I can see where you're coming from. an intrinsically burgerpunk aspect about shows like Kitchen Nightmares are that these hogshit restaurants in Arizona usually have a 30 page laminated menu that offers fast-food, Italian cuisine, seafood, random French shit, etc. all gastronomy becomes completely unrooted and interchangeable, thousands of years of food culture that developed continents apart is served from the same can

>> No.13290120

>>13288600
I can’t decide whether Baudrillard is a real genius or some kind of malevolent force that became a dumpy Frenchman for a while.

>> No.13290123

>>13290109
I feel the burgerpunker would realize the comic nature of having a playpen inside a restaurant, but perhaps feel a sense of comfort from it.

>> No.13290130

>>13290120

genius, beyond a doubt. out of all pomo philosophers, he really saw the writing on the wall the clearest

>> No.13290132

>>13290109
The difference between popart and burgpunk is that the Campbell's soup can never has to leave the isle to be beautiful in the burger aesthetic

>> No.13290135

Is Less Than Zero the quintessential burgerpunk bildungsroman?

>> No.13290140

>>13290109

one must reexamine plates cave allegory, the salient question being: once the man leaves the cave, does he become so fearful of reality and his new freedom, that he immediately returns inside?

I think for burgerpunk, the entire sublime bliss of pure convenience and lack of culture, therefore heritage and responsibility, hinges on the man being fully aware of its phony nature, only by being so vulgar and obscene about its true intentions does it stay seductive

>> No.13290152

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO0H0N9yXc

>> No.13290172

I want to write a burgerpunk novel.
What does /lit/ think of the protagonist being a surly, slightly overweight 27 year old with an associate's degree in English who spends his days working a dead-end retail job and his nights playing World of Warcraft in his room at his parents' house?

>> No.13290177

Is Chris-chan Burgerpunk?

>> No.13290182

>>13290172
hell yea

>> No.13290186

>>13290177
Chris-chan might be the antichrist

>> No.13290188

>>13290177
He's the quintessential Burgerpunk protag. Stupid, indulgent and so delusional he thinks his an artists.

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>endless leaf-blower whining all day every day outside my window while I read this thread

>> No.13290200

>>13290172

>associate degree in English

Sales manager is way more burgerpunk anon maybe even someone that studied to be a stockbroker but dropped out

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>>13287829
Is this burgerpunk?

>> No.13290210

>>13287352

used car salesman

>> No.13290211

>>13290200
I feel like the associate's in English and doing nothing but wageslaving in retail paints a better picture of idealism being stripped away by reality.
Couldn't even go all the way to a Bachelor's before giving up.

>> No.13290230

>>13288905
Can we say efficiency instead? That's very much the lingo used in the businesses driving the dystopian directions: leanness, agility, all metaphors for a pursuit of high up time, high performance, high efficiency, high leverage, etc. I thought that might be more true to the parlance than frugality.

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Was 30 year old boomer burgerpunk origins?

>> No.13290244

>>13290211

>idealism being stripped away by reality.

Why not an art degree then

>> No.13290254

>>13290211

>>13290244

Or failing to get one i guess

>> No.13290267

>>13287360
>>13288397

What arc are we in?

>> No.13290268

>>13290244
>>13290254
Because an associate's is worth as much to potential employers now as a high school diploma was a decade ago.
Having an associate's and pursuing further education or working in your desired field is worse than not having a degree at all

>> No.13290292

>>13290115
Yup, this is hittin the spot. I can almost feel the plastic.. I can feel its weight against gravity as I wave it, almost hear that wobbly sound, feel the breeze it generates.. I'm getting images of trying to read through glare... Sharp edges that could almost cut
Chubby servant in a dark red top. Wears a hat. Has a ponytail. Black half-apron at the waisst.
Big plate o food that contains different animal meats, thick gravy sauce sauce, mashed buttertatoe, or fried tatoe.
Mild diarrhea 45 minutes after
Everything is cleaned, obviously, I see waiters do it all the time as the table leaves, but no table feels clean enough. It's just one sprits and a circular wipe, and done.
I bet the guy doin the dishes has some weed on him
Obese children are fuckin loud.
Obese children are only quiet when eating or with a handheld device.

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>>13289907

>> No.13290298

>>13290211
I'm with the Sales Management anon. Idealism is too rare a quality to fit a quotidian hero. Better and more depressing is a failed attempt at pragmatism.

>> No.13290317

>>13290298
But sales management would make enough to not live with his parents anymore

>> No.13290321

>>13290268

fair enough i guess

>> No.13290330

>>13290317

why does he have to live with his parent solely because of money restrictions

>> No.13290343

>>13289950
What's weird is that the book you expect - witty middle management shit with boredom as theme - is the least good bit of Pale King. The best stuff is the journeys around the IRS centre and the Toni Ware shit. All of which feels inessential to the plot as sketched out in authorial notes.

Basically it's a stillborn IRS novel with half-grown foetal twin parts from the one burgerpunk masterpiece growing off its ass.

>> No.13290346

For a long time I went to Walmart early

>> No.13290350

>>13290330
Because if he had extra $1k in his bank every month, that would kinda be dat sweet millenial BurgerWave aesthetix.

We're tryin for the more dystopian Burgerpunk aesthetic.

But both could exist within BurgerPunk - just cuz you have extra $1k in the bank every month doesn't mean you will do anything useful with it, like save or invest.
And also, $1k in the bank every month, when you're saving close to 80% of your salary, is not that much. Not gonna make a dent in those student loans for a while still.

>> No.13290351

>>13290317

Not if he dropped out it wouldn't.

>> No.13290359

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKziJnLWCpE

>> No.13290367

>>13290330
>>13290351
I'm imagining that sweet spot of particularly American self-loathing bred from the desire to have one's own living space, knowingly stymied by our hero's own laziness.
"If I went back to school I could open doors for better jobs. Hell, I could probably find a better job if I spent some time talking to a temp agency. Maybe I'll get on that this weekend, I'm just too tired to focus on it right this second."

>> No.13290384

>>13290292

100%. don't forget the AC, always a bit too cold and too loud

>> No.13290393

im eating a cheeseburger leftover from the dinner my parents made last night. I didn't heat it up but I put ketchup and potato chips in it. I guess my life is burgerpunk but it doesn't really feel that way cause I'm usually just doing drugs and listening to sophisticated music like jazz or techno or prog, stuff you don't hear on the radio. I'm probably gonna eat some beef ramen in a few and I am looking for a job. I might apply at mcdonalds soon. I'm still not really clear on the definition of burgerpunk though some are saying it's a about the recent past. If it's about the present day I wonder if the aspect of it that would include people like me, and i assume others here, where you are in the culture but you have sophisticated tastes because of the internet giving you access to good art. I suppose it's a millennial thing. Or do my inclinations exclude me from burgerpunk?

>> No.13290395

>>13290359

not sure if this applies, sure the sopranos are clueless burgers and their highest aspirations will always be a McMansion with a pool they don't swim in, but they at least believe themselves connected to some vague Italian heritage and culture, the true burgers cape is rootless

>> No.13290398

Americans consume 70,000 particles of microplastics per year.

>> No.13290400

>>13290016
comfy

>> No.13290416

Every Louis Theroux doc set in America

>> No.13290428

>>13290400
Convenience store lights at night are one of the comfiest things I can think of. I'm not sure if it quite fits burgerpunk, but I'd like to think that pulling into a 7eleven parking lot at 2AM and leaving with a couple cans of Arizona tea and no particular destination in mind is at least a facet of burgerpunk.

>> No.13290430

so burgerpunk is realziing ur life sucks ass but u dont wanna do shit about it?

>> No.13290445

>>13290430

its about embracing a lack of agency and responsibility in the name of convenience

>> No.13290461

>>13290445
L A Z Y

>> No.13290469

I drove by Friendly's, the strip mall, motels, then under a bridge, passing trees, a Burger King, parallel McDonald's, and turned right, into the drive-through, rolled my window down, letting the hot air in, and sat behind four other cars, containing people, all patiently waiting to order: McDoubles, french fries, soft drinks in manifold varieties, Big Macs, n-peice chicken McNuggets, Quarter pounders, Half pounders, pounders, Sweet'n'Sour sauce, Honey mustard, Mustard, Ketchup, Honey... I lit a menthol Marlboro cigarette as I drove out onto the freeway, the grease-stained brown bag of food inthe passenger seat, steaming, fresh scent beckoning me.

>> No.13290470

>>13290430
Is cyberpunk without the fantasy of a rebellion or the possibilty of a redemption arc for the working class hero. Is the slice of life of every NPC in Deus Ex. What we really are. Is to accept the fact that we cannot change a system we do not have the control of.

>> No.13290474

>>13288998
Don’t want to get flamed but as a burger I found London far more depressing, inhospitable and dystopian than American suburbia. The small towns in England (like Camborne) were even worse

>> No.13290476

>>13290461

yup. I read in Harpers magazine a few years ago that the vast majority of Americans couldn't remember a time in the past 2 weeks in which they walked for more than 10 minutes at once. just a constant lounging shuffle between your ugly house, oversized car, alienating workspace and chain store

>> No.13290488

>>13287829
Death Grips: Year of the Snitch, the track Blood Creepin (the line "Under the Highway, diggin' graves" gives me Burgerpunk vibes for some reason)
The Mothers of Invention: Absolutely Free

>> No.13290493

>>13290470
It's cyberpunk but without any of the cool shit

>> No.13290499

>>13290470
>>13290476
okay i get it now. seems more genuine than ironic shit zoomers spill out

>> No.13290504

>>13289585
>Their silences don't feel awkward. Their silences feel like they are spending time looking at each other

Fuck. I never realised how true this is. My mum used to drag me to old, disabled and dying relatives houses all the time as a tiny kid and it was the most boring thing in the world. I remember so much silence, but I realise now they were just enjoying the company.

>> No.13290506

>>13287461
We're still living in a Burgerpunk world. If you see more McDonalds than family owned diners and more Walmarts than mom and pop general stores, it's Burgerpunk. If consumerism still has a hold on the general populace and we're getting more isolated, yep, it's Burgerpunk.

>> No.13290519

>>13289821
Hauntology

>> No.13290521

>>13290384
goddamn how could I ever forget about the AC. You just brought back a flood of memories.. Like a hot summer's day, where you literally feel the sun on your skin.
Or you would if you weren't in your A/C car. It seemed that hot in the morning as you walked to your car in the driveway for 3 seconds.
You've arrived at the strip mall parking lot, you get out of your car *ding* *ding *ding* *ding* door open soft alarm noise lulls you
"Boy it's really hot outside"
You walk for less than 30 seconds into the store
It is immediately freezing
Flash freeze flash heat followed by another flash freeze and flash heat as you leave the store and now you have flash flu. Your nose is runny.
You're in your car again.
You've spent $50 in two minutes at the store on your errand. You also used gas to drive 10 minutes. You purchased a sugary drink and a food item, $8.99 combo snack.

By the time you're in your car again, everything sucks.
Is it melting hot or freezing cold. You can't judge the inside temperature. You think it's maybe warm, but it also feels cold.
Your nose is runny and it's summer. Nobody is outside because of the heat, and that should be paradoxical but it isn't.
Everybody is in their cars.
Your seatbelt is burning to the touch and your iphone is way too hot
Inside of the car is stuffy.
*ding* *ding* *ding* soft door/seatbelt alarm now frustrates you because you have no control over it. The metal of your seatbelt is too hot to fasten. You can't stop the soft alarm. You want to scream.
Your drink is too cold to drink inside. You take a sip anyway. The inside is not as hot as the outside. Yet the seatbelt is on fire. And the alarm is still going on. You're shivering, yet you feel warm. This is suffering.
The food item is not as appealing in your lap as you try to navigate all these tiny fucking obstacles that all disturb your comfort, and your comfort only. Why did you leave the house. Why didn't you go on Amazon instead. God fucking damnit.
You put the food item on the passenger's seat in a hurry, try to fasten your seatbelt for the last goddamn fuckin time,
Finally. Ac is delivering cold air again. Your phone is connected and its playing black hip hop. You grab your food item and take a bite, as you spot another Marvel film coming to the mega theater from the corner of the windshield.
Maybe you'll bring home burgers tonight for the family from [brand]. You enjoyed their latest LGBTQ ad with rainbows.

>> No.13290540

>>13289821
I was aware of this, but this was mostly an ‘80s phenomenon, and in most examples of it there’s other shit going on. And the stylistics of minimalism aren’t really suited for hyperreal, frenetic quality of American mass media, vernacular “””architecture,””” etc., that some anons have mentioned. But yeah in other respects it’s dead on. I would recommend Bobbie Ann Mason’s “Shiloh.” Full of brand names, unerringly flat/bleak, all about the atomization, the decline of American families, destruction of local cultures (Mason is from western Kentucky), media saturation, etc.

>> No.13290548

I come to, my body rebelling at the sense of having remained upright for far too long; must have passed in my computer chair. It's a little past nine in the morning, Saturday. The one day I have to myself.
Eighteen dollars in my checking account, and payday is still four days away. I'll be fine.
As I strip off the jeans and rapidly chilling sweat-soaked t-shirt I fell asleep in, it briefly occurs to me to ponder on why it seems the clothes you sweat through only seem to reach that unnatural chill after you've awakened, but not before. I quickly put the thoughts out of my mind, shifting tracks in the time it takes to put on shorts and a fresh, if wrinkled tee.
From here, my thoughts are devoted to where I want to go for breakfast.

>> No.13290570

>>13290548
>"From here, my thoughts are devoted to where I want to go for breakfast."
This statement gives me two feelings:

I want to suck this guy's dick he's so cool IF in Europe.

Obese fatso retard lol thinks about food first thing in the morning rofl idiot pathetic loser enjoy mcbreakfast lardass IF in America.

>> No.13290598

S T A R B U C K S
M U S I C

>> No.13290615

essential burgercore music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2OjMfTi8ak

>> No.13290618

>>13290570
What thread are we posting in right now, dummy?

>> No.13290621

"Hey, so how do I get to town from here?"

So just take a right where they're building that new shopping mall
Go straight past where they're going to put in the freeway
Take a left at what's going to be the new sports center
And keep going until you hit the place where they're thinking of building that drive-in bank
Next to where the payday loans and the big orange costume store will be

>> No.13290630

>>13290618
>dummy
Language.

>> No.13290634

>>13290621
I love pop-up Halloween stores so much

>> No.13290638

>>13290618
It's just a bizarre coincidence.

When imagining a European man waking up, and then "devoting all his energy to breakfast" on a saturday. Boy oh boy that sounds so cool he'll probably smoke on his way there and have a skeleton body and wear a lose fitting stylish suit

When imagining an American man waking up, and then "devoting all his energy to breakfast" I imagine an obese fatso retard lardass makin sketti eggs with bacon cheese and hash fritts

>> No.13290648

>>13287580
>sponsored by onahole and wendys
2 paragraphs in and im already in tears

>> No.13290653

>>13290615
>>13287829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9a8IupfRzY

>> No.13290654
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>>13287829

>> No.13290749

>>13290638
To be fair, I'm American and like going to local bistros or bakeries on Saturday mornings.
But that's not quite the spirit of burgerpunk I guess

>> No.13290760

>>13290654
this album is too burgerpunk for burgerpunk, it is self aware about the shittyness about modern life, when burgerpunk is entirely about the consumerism and middle-american kistchy excess that is required to drown out these feelings of alienation and frustration with society.
burgerpunk would be listening to kid rock on the radio while driving to your local strip mall in rush hour traffic

>> No.13290773

>>13290760
Your talking about Kmart realism, OK Computer is Burgerpunk through-and-through

>> No.13290788

What does BurgerPunk respond to the open expanse that is NOT covered up by gas stations, fast food drive-ins, and outlet malls?

Say he sees mountains for the first time while driving with new friends, and nothing but miles of nature brown and green in between. Clean air and clear skies, no logos, just small towns with small buildings and small bars every now and again. Small groups of people, congregating outside drinking beer.

How does he feel?
Liberated, on the one hand. His connection to nature is personal, the mountains are made for him and the greenness of the grass is beautiful only to his eyes - who else could see such greatness in simplicity? All this nature is made for his conquering. The road is enlightening, and nature has become his mistress.

But he might also feels scared. These people remind him of the purge - the freedom from authority is unsettling. Not one corporate logo to be found, neither on buildings or on people's clothes - nothing to remind him of home, of security and comfort. Of familiar reference points. No reminder of America's great achievements, only the savage, lawless nature it was built upon. The road seems endless, and nature is overwhelming.

>> No.13290799

>>13290788
He's just on his phone the whole time

>> No.13290807

>>13290799
goddamnit.

>> No.13290810

>>13287339
GEORGE SAUNDERS KING OF BUGERPUNK

>> No.13290812

>>13290788
he's on tinder trying to convince a girl to go out with him

>> No.13290823

you dont know what burgerpunk is if you havent had a tree pulled down by a modded 4x4 for a giant bonfire mushroom rave in the middle of the woods in the outskirts of suburbia. all the cheap brands of beer and little ceasars.

>> No.13290827

>>13290807
He cant help it; the burgerpunker is so indoctrinated by the society that formed him, he can't consider that land has any value beyond space for more walmarts and Starbucks franchises.
To take notice of this vast, uncaring, largely unchanging wonder of a planet that existed for aeons untold before he breathed his first and will persist far beyond when he is but a husk moldering in the grave is anathema; the burgerpunker cannot comprehend what is larger than himself if it doesn't have a logo stamped on kitschy merchandise or its own clothing line.

>> No.13290837

>>13290773
maybe so, i dont know enough about them to seperate the two that well
so what makes OKC burgerpunk? is it just the anti-societal message? in that case, is any work that criticizes modern life burgerpunk?

>> No.13290842

how does a burgerpunk get a gf/wife?

>> No.13290857

>>13290842
Introduced by friends, married and pregnant within 6-8 months of dating, divorced before the child's second birthday, dooming their progeny to perpetuating the burgerpunk cycle.

>> No.13290858

>>13290827
it was more of a "goddamnit" for waxing so long when there was an obvious, short answer.

>> No.13290862

>>13290857
what if he doesnt have friends?

>> No.13290869

>>13290842
perhaps a more important question, what is the "female" in BurgerPunk?

Is it ... the same as any other non-self aware pop-dystopian imagining of the world?

>> No.13290882

anonymous chameleon needs to use a full stop

>> No.13290886

>>13290862
If he doesn't have friends no woman will want to settle down with him. He might knock up an acquaintance and then have to be a weekend-only-single-father while he stalks his son's mother's wedding and honeymoon photos on Facebook

>> No.13290888

What are some books or articles exploring this still ongoing cultural homogenization you could observe in the US over the last few decades, turning nearly the whole country into the same bland suburban wasteland where only the weather differentiates locastions.

>> No.13290892

>>13290842
People don't have sex anymore. It's like Sitcoms, where the couples are always-already married, and sex is only alluded to

>> No.13290898

>>13290888
Asimov's robot novels

>> No.13290908

>>13290886
sounds about right. he would do bad on tinder
>>13290869
i feel like females natural hypergamy wouldnt work within burgerpunk

>> No.13290922

>>13290799
The burgerpunk notion of being 'on the phone' is pocket texting his long distance girlfriend minor updates on his life in order to allay each of their anxieties over loneliness.

>> No.13290936

>>13290922
Or being in a group chat with internet friends whose presence in their life will never be worth more than a particularly clever chatbot.

>> No.13290945

>>13290888
That's a very inaccurate generalization mate. You could trace this phenomenon to literally any point in America's history, all the way back to Manifest Destiny times.

>> No.13291008

>>13290936
Just got real quiet in here, y'all okay?

>> No.13291017

>>13291008
getting rdy for my shit job bagging at publix :^)

>> No.13291027

https://youtu.be/3c66w6fVqOI
A fitting eschatology

>> No.13291030

Whoever cleaned up my stream-of-consciousness section, thank you. It reads a lot better now.

>> No.13291079

>>13287360
haha fucking hickok on bicycle classic

>> No.13291090

>tv culture stereotypes are true
>good thing im not like them burgers based on pop culture memes
>totally not falling for it
the world has to make up their mind that they got burger burglarized. its been happening for a century now. any obsession is u totally lovin' it tm. people who do not see the authenticity of cultures are themselves trapped in that spell, only youve been made a seething advertiser who does it for free. its not the place its a language you are blind to.

>> No.13291108

>>13290888
Shiloh by Bobbie Ann Mason

>> No.13291112

>>13290945
If you like. But I think you know what he means.

>> No.13291153

Why do foreigners hate america so much

>> No.13291156

>>13290615
Surely one of Ferraro's best but I'm not seeing the connection.

>> No.13291167

>>13291156
tbqh u r right. but i feel like ferraro older work is burgerpunk

>> No.13291251

>>13287829
The Eagles - Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8KEbQA8kw

$uicideboy$ - Kill Your$elf Part III: The Budd Dwyer $aga, various mixtapes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxwJ1q7cIck

Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica (one of the only good vaporwave albums 2bh)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fivLqoP0WhU

Linkin Park - Meteora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU

Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQo1HIcSVtg

Miranda Cosgrove - iCarly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPM05dQgdig

Tim Hecker - Harmony in Ultraviolet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DybgSzP7NNc&list=OLAK5uy_m26lUw0Bu5LweNrnq9FuxzAOwGOa87vVU

Joy Division - Still
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDrBTr5HOrI

Twenty One Pilots - Blurryface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY

>> No.13292544

>>13288882
Are you trying to say that homeless man doesn’t know the secret truths of the universe?

He showed me one time

>> No.13292599

>>13292544
They know more than you would think, anyway...
What they actually do with unused city buses, what sounds telephone wires make at 4 a.m, what takes up residence in your house while you’re at work...

>> No.13292646

>>13292599
This is getting insane. I was joking around. You ARE the homeless man are you not? :3

>> No.13292646,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13288983
The random blonde woman with the retarded expression on her face really completes it.