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>> No.13278345

Shakespeare was a better poet

>> No.13278351

Marlowe had less works to his name

>> No.13278352
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13278352

>>13278345
how so? explain me in detail

>> No.13278445
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>>13278317
William Shakespeare is a much better name than Christopher Marlowe. Knowing nothing about either you pass by a bookshelf and see one work written by a dude named William Shakespeare, and one written by a dude named Christopher Marlowe. Which book are you going to pick up?

>> No.13278446

because hes fucking shit

>> No.13278448

why op no english good

>> No.13278712

>>13278352
Dif anon-
Marlowe died, Shakespeare lived
Compare how far along in their respective arts each was when at the same age and discover that Marlowe was the better playwright if not quite the better poet up until his death at 29 (1593). They were born the same year, 1564- Marlowe was 2 mos. older.

>> No.13278820

>>13278712
marlowe died when shakespeare had already done titus and probably already written loves labours

so no

>> No.13278847

>>13278317
Is that kinky hair ?

>> No.13278870

>>13278317
>Mac and Charlie Write a Play

>> No.13278874

no comparison really

>> No.13278899

>>13278820
So...
'probably' LLL > faustus, malta, edward ii, etc. dramatically
either b8 or youre a fucking idiot

>> No.13278915

>>13278899
none are particularly good, titus is better than any of them

>> No.13278917

>>13278915
love the hell out of Titus, but this is a point of some contention

>> No.13278919

>>13278917
i know >:)

>> No.13279298

>>13278345
This really as well as a better dramatist. I defy anyone to watch Marlowe's plays performed and not be bored to tears within the first half hour. If you think Shakespeare's plays can be boring then man alive you aint seen nothing yet.

>> No.13279397

Why you no learn English OP?

>> No.13279424

>>13278445
>Which book are you going to pick up?
Shakespeare is the name of a limp-wristed faggot
Marlowe is the name of a mature man with life experience and layers to his psychology, who might have hit a low in his life, but still slays without even trying

>> No.13280258

>>13278915
>Titus > Edward II ?
Sorry, lad- No.
Add Marlowe to your list of authors to read.

>> No.13280308

Because Shakespeare is a better writer you clown

>> No.13280319

>>13278899
None of Marlowe’s plays is actually good, he just has a few good lines. Faustus is such a rambling, actionless, directionless shitfest of a play, it’s ridiculous.
>Make me immortal with a kiss etc

>> No.13280371

>>13280319
>shitfest of a play....ridiculous
describes Titus
Point is, nothing Shakespeare wrote by 29 is superior dramatically to Edward ii, including that tiresomely verbose send-up of euphuism LLL (assuming it was even written)

>> No.13280524

>>13280371
>nothing Shakespeare wrote by 29 is superior dramatically to Edward ii,
Doesn't really matter since nothing Shakespeare wrote is dramatically superior to Ben Jonson or Beaumont and Fletcher. The questions is, why does Shakespeare overshadow Marlowe, and the obvious answer is Shakespeare was the greatest artist of his generation, while Marlowe was just a talented young man.

His genius lay in his poetics. He was already a far better poet than Marlowe by 29.
>Winter of our discontent

>> No.13280592

>>13280524
Even if the following lines were all Shakespeare wrote, he would still be a contender for best English poet. (from a midsummers night dream)

THESEUS
Go, one of you, find out the forester;
For now our observation is perform'd;
And since we have the vaward of the day,
My love shall hear the music of my hounds.
Uncouple in the western valley; let them go:
Dispatch, I say, and find the forester.
*Exit an Attendant*
We will, fair queen, up to the mountain's top,
And mark the musical confusion
Of hounds and echo in conjunction.

HIPPOLYTA
I was with Hercules and Cadmus once,
When in a wood of Crete they bay'd the bear
With hounds of Sparta: never did I hear
Such gallant chiding: for, besides the groves,
The skies, the fountains, every region near
Seem'd all one mutual cry: I never heard
So musical a discord, such sweet thunder.

THESEUS
My hounds are bred out of the Spartan kind,
So flew'd, so sanded, and their heads are hung
With ears that sweep away the morning dew;
Crook-knee'd, and dew-lapp'd like Thessalian bulls;
Slow in pursuit, but match'd in mouth like bells,
Each under each. A cry more tuneable
Was never holla'd to, nor cheer'd with horn,
In Crete, in Sparta, nor in Thessaly:
Judge when you hear. But, soft! what nymphs are these?

>> No.13280732

>>13280592
yessir

>> No.13281729

>>13280592
All said with respect to his future greatness, which perhaps cannot be dismissed. My only point (after conceding that he was the inferior poet) was that Marlowe hadn't the chance to contend. Nonetheless insisting that Shakespeare's dramatic output was more impressive than Marlowe's by 1593 is just willfully perverse: it simply wasn't. Marlowe's remembered for what he did; Shakespeare's remembered for what he did later.

>> No.13281758

>>13278317
>Implying he wasn't samefagging

>> No.13281806

>>13281729
I was only agreeing that Shakespeare was a great poet by 29

>> No.13281863

>>13279424
then you find out marlowe was a fruit who wrote a fruity play called Edward II about a fruit king and his fruit favourite