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>tfw Hegel starts talking about pure aryan skull shapes

>> No.13233242

That chapter is literally mocking phrenology you brainlet

>> No.13233247

>>13233242
He likes anime, go easy on him. Probably sub 120IQ

>> No.13233255
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13233255

>misunderstanding arguably the most straight-forward part of the book
yikes

>> No.13233268

>>13233242
really? do you have a source on that?

>> No.13233272

Are we the baddies?

>> No.13233273

>>13233242
>>13233255
>he’s just joking bro
How?
>uhhhhhh becuase man nobody believes that stuff haha. Incel!

>> No.13233278

>>13233268
ohhhh NONONONO anime incel

>> No.13233289
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>>13233278

>> No.13233293

>>13233273
How about mentioning any part of the book where he talks about pure aryan skull shapes

>> No.13233308

>>13233293
ohhhh NONONONO incel

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>>13233268

>> No.13233335

>>13233308
Seething has begun

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>>13233335

>> No.13233352

>>13233342
>having this saved
have it urgently

>> No.13233354

>>13233330
>doesn’t mention aryan skulls once
ummmmmmmmm

>> No.13233359

inb4 the section about Africans is posted

>> No.13233367

>>13233354
You are right he puts phrenology in the bin but does later in the text make an exception for sweet sexy ass aryan skullery

>> No.13233372
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>The guy who was more gun-ho about Nazism than most of Hitler's own generals was surely satirizing craniometry, right guys?

>> No.13233382

>>13233242
>The guy who was more gun-ho about Nazism than most of Hitler's own generals was surely satirizing craniometry, right guys?

>> No.13233396

Why would liberals suck this guy off if he was a nazi

>> No.13233412

>>13233396
The same reason why they suck off Shakespeare even though he was a classist fuck who hated poor people.

>> No.13233414

>>13233396
Why would nazis suck this guy off he was a liberal

>> No.13233419

>>13233396
Read The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left by Dinesh D'Souza, it explains everything.

>> No.13233420

>>13233412
I don’t know, a lot of poor people in his plays are dumb as fuck but usually in the right

>> No.13233427

>>13233372
How about reading the book and find out?

>> No.13233446

>>13233427
How about you read a book on Hegel's life. He called himself the "Little Fuhrer" for a reason.

>> No.13233474

>>13233446
Shit Charles Taylor must have omitted that along with him and Nietszche visiting Nürnberg in 1934

>> No.13233510

>>13233474
cute

>> No.13233521

>>13233474
Hegel, Heidegger and Nietzsche all behind one Führer. That's freaking based.

>> No.13233557

>>13233221
>>tfw Hegel was compensating for the size and performance of his penis

>> No.13233577
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>>13233330

An exegesis of the Christian idea of bodies being a literal somatization of the Self, consciously chosen by their owners before birth, but nevertheless made trivial by being superimposed on God?

>mfw hegel understands not only the socratic irony in canon but the allegorical aspect of apocrypha as well thus being not only brilliant but also a jivanmukta

>> No.13233654

>>13233577
g-go on...

>> No.13233661 [DELETED] 

>>13233221
You can tell a person's race by analyzing their skull and teeth, faggot nigger. Roll your eyes some more.

>> No.13233689

>>13233577
Put this in brainlet terms for me

>> No.13233712

>>13233689
No, either up your IQ or leave.

>> No.13233715

>>13233712
please g-go on...

>> No.13233859

I cannot even express how much I hate this retarded place

>> No.13233895

>>13233859

Nobody cares

>> No.13233908

>>13233221
People used to think it was for real. Schopie has a whole section on physiognomy. Just ignore it if it isn't integral to the rest of the work

>> No.13234057

>>13233242
>phrenology
Could you explain what is pseudo-science about?

>> No.13234063

>>13234057
Pseudo-science is when somebody makes a guess, refuses to verify it experimentally, and then starts doing experiments on the assumption that the guess is true. In real science, you have to verify the guess.

>> No.13234065

>>13233908
physiognomy is at least partially true. There are 'psychopathic' and 'narcissistic' types of faces among other things they've found in studies.

Also I notice people lump in the idea that brain size correlates with intelligence(something with a fair amount of evidence) with phrenology.

>> No.13234073

>>13234065
That's a much weaker claim than what actual physiognomy claims. Also phrenology tried to be extremely exact

>> No.13234086

>>13234063
But one would think verification would be fairly easy considering you could gather that certain parts of the brain have a relation to certain functions by injuries to certain parts then they could find skull shape and test the individual ability. Most often it would come down to racial difference since the difference being of a greater kind however it might be possible within the individual though I myself doubt it greatly I do think there is something to it. Have you ever seen someone with a prefrontal cortex hanging over their brow and not been above average intelligence? Look at Wagner.

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>>13234065
>Also I notice people lump in the idea that brain size correlates with intelligence(something with a fair amount of evidence) with phrenology.
Within individual variance within that of the same collective namely race you can estimate that the intelligence would be larger given skull shape but once you get into species and then varying species it become too blurred and often there is little correlation to intelligence. Look at Wagner's prefrontal cortex.

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>>13234102
There is actually a measure for species in general it's the brain to body mass. Some prefer to count neurons or connections instead of just mass.

I agree though that especially once youre comparing mammals to birds or something, the brain structures are just too different for that measure to mean all that much.

>> No.13234139

>>13233577
>muh rosicrucian
didn't expect it

>> No.13234144

>>13233412
>he was a classist fuck who hated poor people
just like liberals

>> No.13234156

>>13234123
>There is actually a measure for species in general it's the brain to body mass. Some prefer to count neurons or connections instead of just mass.
Yea heard of this but again it is not always intelligence within the same area that we may consider "intelligence" does it have anywhere to do with the location of development in brain to body mass or does that reside within that of the genetic?

>I agree though that especially once you'r comparing mammals to birds or something, the brain structures are just too different for that measure to mean all that much.
Indeed, which I gather the location of brain to body mass development as well as intelligence directed comes down to genetic otherwise it wouldn't really make sense then yea the body has ability to spare but also the body mass has to of sufficient level for the brain. Take for example hypothetically there would be a bird with a greater brain to body mass than a human it's intelligence would be lower but also the direction of development within the brain or the direction of intelligence.

>> No.13234166

>>13233412
liberals wants to preserve the capitalist class structure, you dumb Amerilard

>> No.13234184

>>13233273
The section on phrenology literally ends with him saying he would beat a phrenologist over the skull with a stick

>> No.13234187

>>13234156
tbqh m8 I am not really following the thrust of this post.

>> No.13234246

>>13234123
>trex having a brainmass of only 500 grams
is this true?

>> No.13234253

>>13234123
we call it encephalization quotient

>> No.13234269

>>13234187
>tbqh m8 I am not really following the thrust of this post.
What don't you understand I shall explain little one? Let us engage in master student dialectic...

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>>13233221
>>13233268
>>13233273

>> No.13234570

>>13233382
>The guy who was more gun-ho about Nazism than most of Hitler's own generals was surely satirizing craniometry, right guys?

Hegel died a century before Nazism. You might be thinking of Heidegger. In any case, you really shouldn't participate in discussions you know nothing about

>> No.13234581

>>13234570
You're right. I will remove myself from this discussion now.

>> No.13234588

>>13234246
>unable to read scaled graphs

The last half section of that interval would have 50% more progression than the preceding. What you’re looking at is 250, not 500. :3

Even though TRexs are just misidentified Nephilim or existing creatures.

>> No.13234590

>>13234570
hegel's conception of the state is in fact fascist as fuck though.

>> No.13234597

>>13234588
Sorry, I wasn’t thinking right. It would be more like 225. :3

>> No.13234617

>>13234597
Okay one last try: 325 :3

Got it.

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>>13233221
muh dick

>> No.13234651

>>13234617
Actually one more try:

Because the scale is ten and not two, the difference after the halfway point is ten times that of it before.

This means 900 = x + (x/10)

X = about 819. That point is 81 above 100, thus the midway point is 181. NOT 500

My bad :3

>> No.13234819

>>13234625
why put such a good book between two niggers of books.

>> No.13236460

>>13234073
To be fair it was the zeitgeist then.
Many of these 19th century 'pseudo sciences' had basis in reality but grossly overrated their results.
Probability and statistics were still surrounded by a sort of mystique among serious mathematicians, as seen by the load of third rate philosophy about laws of large numbers (a situation that will linger until people like Lebesgue or von Mises came along), let alone empirical scientists that, if they were interested in epistemology at all, still took seriously the arguments about muh cause versus correlation.

>> No.13236485

>>13234065
Can't they now tell if a child is going to be autistic by looking at microscopic changes in skull shape quite early in pregnancy?

>> No.13236531 [DELETED] 

>>13234065
>tfw have schizophrenia
Should I have my skull physiognomised for science?

>> No.13236547 [DELETED] 

>>13236531
It does look quite square.

>> No.13236561

>>13233221
>>13233242
the spirit is a boner

>> No.13237979

>>13234063
Like gender studies, got it!