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[Anonymous No.13209984]

the father of all pseudothinkers

[Anonymous No.13210084]

you guys never recovered from years of the wizard hegel meme, neither did marx and modernity. bless your soul

[Anonymous No.13210090]

>>13209984
Is there a single person whose novel thinking had a greater (direct) impact on the world than Hegel?

[Anonymous No.13210308]

It is hard to resist discussion of artificial history without comment on the father of all pseudothinkers, Hegel. Hegel writes jargon that is meaningless outside of a chic Left Bank Parisian cafe or the humanities department of some university extremely well insulated from the real world. I suggest this passage from the German 'philosopher' (this passage detected, translated, and reviled by Karl Popper):

>Sound is the change in the specific condition of segregation of the material parts, and in the negation of this condition; merely an abstract or an ideal ideality, as it were, of that specification. But this change, accordingly, is itself immediately the negation of the material specific subsistence; which is, therefore, real ideality of specific gravity and cohesion, i.e.--heat. The heating up of the sounding bodies, just as of beaten and or rubbed ones, is the appearance of heat, originating conceptually together with sound.

. . . . Now consider that Hegelian thinking is generally linked to a 'scientific' approach to history; it has produced such results as Marxist regimes and even a branch called 'neo-Hegelian' thinking. These 'thinkers' should be given an undergraduate-level class on statistical sampling theory prior to their release into the open world."

t.Fooled by Randomness Random House, NY, 2004 p.74, Nassim Nicholas Taleb

[Anonymous No.13210328]

>>13209984
Hegel is funny on purpose

[Anonymous No.13210375]

>Should you ever intend to dull the wits of a young man and to incapacitate his brains for any kind of thought whatever, then you cannot do better than give Hegel to read. [...] A guardian fearing that his ward might become too intelligent for his schemes might prevent this misfortune by innocently suggesting the reading of Hegel.

[Anonymous No.13210570]

>>13210308
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.13211318]

>>13210375
oh schoppy, always a donor of based keks

[Anonymous No.13211335]

>>13210308
>Sound is the change in the specific condition of segregation of the material parts, and in the negation of this condition; merely an abstract or an ideal ideality, as it were, of that specification. But this change, accordingly, is itself immediately the negation of the material specific subsistence; which is, therefore, real ideality of specific gravity and cohesion, i.e.--heat. The heating up of the sounding bodies, just as of beaten and or rubbed ones, is the appearance of heat, originating conceptually together with sound.

WOW
BASED AND AFFIRMINGHEGELIANDIALECTICS

[Anonymous No.13212813]

>>13209984
I have no idea who this is.

[Anonymous No.13212856]

>>13210375
Not an argument

[Anonymous No.13213116]

>>13210375
hegelets will never recover from this desu

[Anonymous No.13213123]

Marx BTFO this bitch

[Anonymous No.13213128]

>>13213123

[Anonymous No.13213136]

>>13213123
Stirner btfo Marx, /ourguy/ indeed

[Anonymous No.13213162]

>>13213123
>>13213136

No.

>tfw when even the critics of your system even go down in history

Hegel, alone at the throne

[Anonymous No.13213165]

>>13213123
You are a retard who gonna say Aristotle BTFOed Plato

[Anonymous No.13213281]

>>13213162
>that physiognomy
Yikes...

[Anonymous No.13213339]

>>13209984
Hegel btfo of this guy through his own system

[Anonymous No.13213386]

>>13213281
>Such an arbitrary combination of factors that are external for one another yields no law. Physiognomy, however, is supposed to differ from other questionable arts and pernicious studies because it considers specific individuality in the necessary antithesis of an inner and an outer, of character as a conscious disposition, and this again as an existent shape, and the way it relates these factors' to each other is the way they are related by their Notion ; hence these factors must constitute the content of a law. In. astrology, palmistry, and similar sciences, on the other hand, what seems to be related is only an outer to an outer, something or other to an element alien to it. This particular constellation at birth, and, when this external element is brought closer to the body, these particular lines on the hand, are external factors indicating a longer or shorter life, and the fate in general of the particular individual. Being externalities, they are indifferent towards each other, and lack the necessity for one another that ought to lie in the relation of an outer to an inner.

[Anonymous No.13213399]

>>13213281
>>13213386
>Admittedly the hand does not seem to be such a very external factor for fate; it seems rather to be related to it as something inner. For fate itself is also only the manifestation of what the particular individuality is in itself as an inner original specific character. Now, to find out what this particular individuality is in itself, the palmist, like the physiognomist, takes a shorter cut than, e.g., Solon, who thought he could only know this from and after the course of the whole life; he examined the manifestation, but the former examines the [unexplicated] in-itself. That the hand, however, must represent the in itself of the individuality in respect of its fate is easy to see from the fact that, next to the organ of speech, it is the hand most of all by which a man manifests and actualizes himself. It is the living artificer of his fortune. We may say of the hand that it is what a man does, for in it, as the active organ of his self .. fulfillment, he is present as the animating soul; and since he is primarily his own fate, his hand will thus express this in itself.

[Anonymous No.13213518]

>>13213386
>>13213399
The most extensive and drab cope I think I've ever had the misfortune of reading desu.

[Anonymous No.13214469]

>>13210308

The Anglo thinks literacy is mere memorization of as many obscure words as possible, adverb abuse, run-on sentences, stupid puns, bombastic digression, etc. such that proper grammatical structure, Language itself, vexes him to no end and meaning eludes him altogether in overarching "legato" text. The Anglo is paralingual.

It is remarkable that the excerpt he chose is mundanely Phenomenological, and mostly Empirical at that, yet he still insists his idiocy constitutes a rebuttal.

>Not only am I an idiot regarding your Philosophy, I am an idiot IN GENERAL! Take that, Hegel!

[Anonymous No.13215191]

>>13214469
its amazing to me how much your dying continent hates english culture so much. english culture has become so victorious, successful, and dominant, and continental culture so irrelevent, that you have to bitch about in english.

its amazing to me how an intellectual tradition that has produced nothing but miserable fucking failure and suffering for 200 consecutive years can somehow think itself more legitimate than proven successful ones.

[Anonymous No.13215204]

>>13215191
>bitch about in english
American... not english

[Anonymous No.13215301]

>>13215204
regardless, your continent is failing, dying, and becoming more irrelevent every decade. i hope you realize that. it is crippled by by various isms and ists concocted by ivory tower retards who are utterly divorced from reality tot he point where they deny reality even exists. china and america have already eclipsed you. in the coming decades india, latin america, and even africa will over take you. befroe the enlightenment your culture was an irrelevent backwater for 1000 years. its rejection of enlightenment principles will soon return it to that state.

[Anonymous No.13215339]

>>13215204
>>13215301
and i want to add that it is dying because of your own fault. the multiple consecutive suicides, induced by your demented intellectuals, took your continent from the apex of power and prestige to its current state.

[Anonymous No.13215522]

>>13215301
>>13215339

Is not understanding your own Language part of the plan? Or is it too precious an Angloism to export?

[Anonymous No.13215532]

>>13209984
>I tried to read Hegel but didn't understand him
>Must be his fault, not mine.
>HeGeL iZ a PseUd Hurrrr Durrrrrr

[Anonymous No.13215639]

>>13215339

they'll always have james pond

[Anonymous No.13215682]

>>13214469
>as many obscure words as possible, adverb abuse, run-on sentences, stupid puns, bombastic digression, etc.
sounds good to me desu.

[Anonymous No.13215724]

Can I get a quick rundown on this guy?

[Anonymous No.13215782]

>>13210090
ahem

[Anonymous No.13216016]

>>13215301
>your continent is failing, dying, and becoming more irrelevent every decade
Ironic to hear this coming from an anglo as if his country isn't stuck in the exact same boat

>irrelevent backwater for 1000 years
More glorious irony!

[Anonymous No.13216029]

>>13215191
>chart living standards by dollars a day
>trash dollar value
>people are now worse off on 5 dollars a day than they were off two
>congratulate ourselves

[Anonymous No.13216039]

>>13215191
>enlightenment
>english
what?

[Anonymous No.13216044]

>>13216029
>all data are adjusted for inflation

[Anonymous No.13216053]

>>13210090
marxist teachings cause revolutionary movements world wide. hegel was a conformist cuck

[Anonymous No.13216060]

>>13216053
hegel became a comformist cuck only later in his life. he btfos christcuckery in his young theological writings

[Anonymous No.13216079]

>>13216044
>But wait a second, didn’t the line go up to $1.90 – a nominal increase of 52% relative to $1.25, and much higher than US inflation between 2005 and 2011? How is that consistent with “keeping the line constant in real terms”, and with no change – or even a small decline – in poverty? The answer lies – as often with global poverty mysteries – with the new PPPs… The 2011 ICP price surveys revealed price levels in poor countries that were considerably lower – relative to those in the US – than those used for the 2005 PPPs. Remember that PPP exchange rates are calculated so as to offset differences in absolute price levels: one PPP dollar should buy the same basket of goods in Kenya, India or the US. If prices in poor countries are lower, their currencies are stronger in purchasing power terms: the Kenyan shilling or the Indian rupee buy more (in their respective countries) than we used to think, relative to what one dollar buys in the United States. In other words, the US dollar’s purchasing power (in the US) in 2011 PPPs is lower relative to the purchasing power of the currencies of most poor countries (in those countries). The new PPPs effectively reflect a weaker dollar, relative to the currencies of most poor countries. This is why a poverty line that is constant in real terms in poor countries, is now higher in US dollars. $1.90 in 2011 buys approximately the same things as $1.25 did in 2005 in poor countries, which is why poverty has changed very little

[Anonymous No.13216288]

is pseudothinker a euphemism for daddy figure?

[Anonymous No.13216772]

>>13214469
None of the men that post had anything to do with are Anglo, and you sound like a strikingly pretentious breed of pseud.

[Anonymous No.13217108]

>>13209984
No, it's him.

[Anonymous No.13217254]

>>13215724
Hegel explicitly criticized the notion of “quick rundowns” on philosophical systems in the preface to Phenomenology

[Anonymous No.13217260]

>>13217254
Can I get a quick rundown on quick rundowns?

[Anonymous No.13217326]

>>13215191
You really want to tell me THIS isn't absolute poverty.

[Anonymous No.13217331]

>>13217326

[Anonymous No.13217335]

>>13217326
The Anglo cries out in moralism as he strikes you.

[Anonymous No.13217369]

>>13217260
Φ 1. In the case of a philosophical work it seems not only superfluous, but, in view of the nature of philosophy, even inappropriate and misleading to begin, as writers usually do in a preface, by explaining the end the author had in mind, the circumstances which gave rise to the work, and the relation in which the writer takes it to stand to other treatises on the same subject, written by his predecessors or his contemporaries. For whatever it might be suitable to state about philosophy in a preface – say, an historical sketch of the main drift and point of view, the general content and results, a string of desultory assertions and assurances about the truth – this cannot be accepted as the form and manner in which to expound philosophical truth.