/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13168070]

Is this tubby kike the most overrated writer in history?

[Anonymous No.13168075]

Nah, he's pretty good. That award should go to J.K. Rowling

[Anonymous No.13168081]

>>13168075
Damn, you got inb4 me on that... Yeah, that slut ripped off Terry Pratchett and Ursula LeGuin....

[Anonymous No.13168090]

>>13168075
Things in common:
They both sold out their artistic vision for some cash and fame.
Remember, any "artist" that agrees to whore out his work by turning it into a tv show, movie or video game deserves a bullet.

They're not artists. They're worse than whores. They literally sold their soul.

[Anonymous No.13168159]

Now, lets work out what this goblinoid ripped off shall we?
>War of the Five Kings
War of the Roses.
>The Wall
Hadrian's Wall
>Wildlings
Could really apply to almost any barbaric horde from Germans invading Rome, Gauls, Slavs invading East Rome, Picts, Goths.
>Dorthraki
Obviously inspired by the Turkic steppe peoples. Mongols would be an obvious choice, but GRRM was smart enough to give them blades instead of bows and arrows, so as not to seem like a complete rip off.
>Bravos
Italian city states, possibly Spain/Greece as well.
>Dorne
Arabs
>Qarth
Arabs
>Asshai
Far east Asia
>Lord of Light
Spin on Christianity, or at least monotheistic religions replacing paganism.
>Faith of the Seven
Polytheism, but with obvious early Christian influences.
>Old Gods
Self explanatory
>Slaver's Bay
Cities inspired by Mesopotamia, Egypt and possibly others.

Haven't read the books. Only watched the show and read up on the lore.
If simply ripping off history and "transforming" it counts as great writing, I don't think I've missed much by not reading his plagiarism.
Remember guys, truth is stranger (and often more interesting) than fiction. The genius of Martin if we can call it that is realizing it and simply masquerading history as fiction.

If you enjoy his books, good, great. I'm glad. I'm not trying to bring anyone's enjoyment of his series down, but I hate the tubby fuck.

[Anonymous No.13168163]

>>13168090
that's dumb. it's a good way to make money, why wouldn't you do it

[Anonymous No.13168168]

>>13168159
biggest brainlet take i've seen and I hate GRRM and fantasy in-general

[Anonymous No.13168172]

>>13168159
You must struggle with your retardation. All fantasy is derivative of real world history to some degree.

[Anonymous No.13168176]

I don't get why you're all so mean. Seems like you're jealous of his success.

[Anonymous No.13168180]

>>13168163
Because if I were a writer my foremost duty is to my work, not the readers and not personal gain.

Season 8 of GoT is what happens when you whore out. And now his work is stained forever. Instead of finishing his fucking book series before he croaks, he's now consulting or writing or whatever the fuck on TV prequels to GoT.
I suppose it's not surprising though. He is a kike.

[Anonymous No.13168186]

>>13168172
Not to this extent faggot.
GRRM's work is copy paste.
And yet brainlets fail to realize it or try to defend it.

[Anonymous No.13168188]

>>13168081
Harry Potter is just stupider X-men.

[Anonymous No.13168193]

>>13168159
So GRRM read some history?
You realize that alone puts him at the top of fantasy writers right?

[Anonymous No.13168202]

>>13168193
>You realize that alone puts him at the top of fantasy writers right?
>Ripping off existing material, fictional or not.
>Actually creating something new.
>Nah, plagiarism is better.
I disagree. But I do agree that he is one of the best fantasy writers. If you're gonna steal, steal from the great.
He's still shit though, as is most fantasy.

[Anonymous No.13168218]

>>13168159
Half of the characters are just ripped out of I, Claudius. Martin just drew from historical fiction rather than mythology and Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.13168226]

>>13168202
Taking inspiration from history doesn't make you a plagiarist.

[Anonymous No.13168229]

No racism please

[Anonymous No.13168240]

Now, lets contrast the tubby fuck to an actually great writer.
Here is a man, who through his own life and experience, witnessed hardship, witnessed human nature at its core, and put it in ink.

Dostoyevsky had something profound to write, and he wrote it.

Kike hobgoblin rips off history and writes shock porn.
>Oh noes they kill Ned
>Oh noes Red Wedding
>Oh noes Jon ded
>Yay Jon lives
He writes these fucking tomes, and makes your retarded, emotional little normie brains invested into those characters.
Then he purposefully murders them just to fuck with you, and you eat it up, like fucking retards.
Know what?
When I said >>13168159
>If you enjoy his books, good, great. I'm glad. I'm not trying to bring anyone's enjoyment of his series down, but I hate the tubby fuck.
Fuck that. If you enjoy the books you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.13168244]

>>13168159
If you were to say Yi Ti was far east Asia, fine, but Asshai is not Asian in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.13168251]

>>13168226
>rip off some fiction
>plagiarism
>rip off things that happened and mask them as fiction
>that's not plagiarism
Top tier mental gymnastics friend.
>>13168218
Tolkien is an overrated, plagiarist hack too. But he at least transformed more than Martin and had some pretty good world building.
>>13168229
Ban me if you faggots want. I'm still right.

[Anonymous No.13168296]

>>13168070
He's not even the most overrated writer in his own genre.

[Anonymous No.13168302]

>>13168251
>>rip off things that happened and mask them as fiction>that's not plagiarism
Of course it's not. Reality is not anybody's intellectual property.

[Anonymous No.13168312]

>>13168159
>fantasy writer takes his inspiration from historical events, people and places instead of other fantasy writers
It's almost like this is the only way to write a convincing fantastical universe. It's why people like Tolkien and George Lucas and Robert E. Howard will not be matched — they created something new by compiling known quantities in a new way. Look at this portion of the Poetic Edda; some of the names might sound familiar:
https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe03.htm

There was Motsognir | the mightiest made
Of all the dwarfs, | and Durin next;
Many a likeness | of men they made,
The dwarfs in the earth, | as Durin said.

Nyi and Nithi, | Northri and Suthri,
Austri and Vestri, | Althjof, Dvalin,
Nar and Nain, | Niping, Dain,
Bifur, Bofur, | Bombur, Nori,
An and Onar, | Ai, Mjothvitnir.

Vigg and Gandalf | Vindalf, Thrain,
Thekk and Thorin, | Thror, Vit and Lit,
Nyr and Nyrath,-- | now have I told--
Regin and Rathsvith-- | the list aright.

Fili, Kili, | Fundin, Nali,
Heptifili, | Hannar, Sviur,
Frar, Hornbori, | Fræg and Loni,
Aurvang, Jari, | Eikinskjaldi.

The race of the dwarfs | in Dvalin's throng
Down to Lofar | the list must I tell;
The rocks they left, | and through wet lands
They sought a home | in the fields of sand.

[Anonymous No.13168313]

>>13168302
The principle is the same.

[Anonymous No.13168357]

>>13168070
The most overrated? Not even close. Once we dismiss fanboi opinions (worthless whether they like him or not, with the same applying to Rowling and all other pop writers), we can then judge him on the awards he’s won. These are pretty much all in the SF and television universes; impressive enough if you’re involved in either industry, but hardly a sign of universal acclaim. No, for the most overrated you have to turn to the Nobel Prize for literature — plenty of candidates there.

[Anonymous No.13168395]

>>13168070
he makes spergy /pol/ kids mad, so he's alright by me

[Anonymous No.13168419]

>>13168395
This narrative is over now. The moral of the TV series was basically "never trust well intentioned egalitarians because they are always insane, genocidal maniacs. Also, women are terrible leaders after all". Last few episodes made anti-/pol/ more upset than anything else.

[Anonymous No.13168429]

>>13168419
S8 was pretty shit, but how Danny turned out was perfect.
t. /pol/ack

[Anonymous No.13168452]

>>13168180
Imagine being this delusional, what a fucking kike this guy

[Anonymous No.13168461]

>>13168452
Shut the fuck up shekel whore.

[Anonymous No.13168505]

>>13168461
But he’s right, you know. The only writers, artists, musicians, etc. who didn’t publish their work for profit were the ones who couldn’t find buyers. That an artist naturally seeks to earn a living by his work has no bearing on the quality of that work.

[Anonymous No.13168525]

>>13168505
>That an artist naturally seeks to earn a living by his work has no bearing on the quality of that work.
There's a huge difference between earning a living and whoring your work out.
Tom Waits still refuses to let his music be used in commercials.
GRRM could have just continued writing the books and not have done the TV show. It's not like he was starving, I mean just look at him. But he wanted the shekels, he wanted the fame, and now he's got S8. I assume he had to at least say it's fine.
A fitting end to that shekel goblin.

[Anonymous No.13168560]

>>13168070

[Anonymous No.13168570]

>>13168560
Witcher games take place after Sapkowski's work. So, the writers of the games might be overrated, but few people have actually read the novels (at least compared to the people who played the games).

[Anonymous No.13168586]

>>13168525
I think he's overrated and all myself but it seems to me that it's much more natural for an author to want to see his work adapted, expanded and experienced by a lot of people than not.

[Anonymous No.13168589]

>>13168229
Is cunt the c-word?

[Anonymous No.13168605]

>>13168589
coon?
>>13168586
And if he was the actual writer on the show, I couldn't complain.
As it is, I can.

[Anonymous No.13168619]

>>13168570
Sapkowski's works are just worst version of Elric of Melniboné

[Anonymous No.13168623]

>>13168525
>>There's a huge difference between earning a living and whoring your work out.
If you think your work good, you naturally want it to be seen/heard by as wide an audience as possible. The motivation can be as simple as that. But by your definition, the great composers, the great novelists of the 19th century, etc, etc, etc, were all whores. This is clearly ridiculous.
>>Tom Waits still refuses to let his music be used in commercials.
What did he do with that $2.6 million he got from Frito-Lay? Did he donate it all to charity?
>>It's not like he was starving, I mean just look at him. But he wanted the shekels, he wanted the fame
So what? The books and TV series are middle of the road entertainment; they’ll be pretty much forgotten in 10 years. If you don’t like them, don’t read or watch them. Why get so buttblasted about it?
>>A fitting end to that shekel goblin.
He’s rich, popular, admired, etc. He may not deserve any of it, but that’s a moot point. Meanwhile, you’re none of these and just come across as jealous.

[Anonymous No.13168624]

>>13168176
welcome

[Anonymous No.13168631]

>>13168159
>Haven't read the books.
>proceeds to write a textwall about the books

[Anonymous No.13168643]

>>13168631
I don't need to read the books to recognize that he's a plagiarist hack.
>>13168623
Sure thing bud.
He's still a plagiarist.

[Anonymous No.13168658]

>>13168090
>>13168070
Typical contrarian trash. Sore ass virgins hating multi-million dollar icons that’ll be remembered for their work long after they’re dead while you worthless scum won’t even finish a screenplay worthy of even being read by 5th graders.

[Anonymous No.13168687]

>>13168643
>I don't need to read
/lit/ in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.13168693]

>>13168658
>Typical contrarian trash. Sore ass virgins hating multi-million dollar icons that’ll be remembered for their work long after they’re dead while you worthless scum won’t even finish a screenplay worthy of even being read by 5th graders.
Well someone's ass certainly is sore, but it's not mine.
Nice try anyway George.

[Anonymous No.13168715]

>>13168643
“The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents.”

[Anonymous No.13168724]

>>13168715
Of success perhaps.
But not of quality.

[Anonymous No.13168773]

>>13168159

What an absolute brainlet. Every story ever conceived has been "ripping off" others to some extent. You haven't even read the books.

retard.

[Anonymous No.13168777]

>>13168724
To be sure. Quality and success rarely intersect in the creative world; this has been true for hundreds of years and I presume will continue to be so for hundreds more. There’s no point getting so asspained over something so unlikely to change, is there? Rowling and GRRM and their contemporaries will be nostalgia in 10 years and largely forgotten in 20.

[Anonymous No.13168798]

>>13168229
You are a nigger, a chink and a k[...].

[Anonymous No.13168812]

>>13168159
yikes

[Anonymous No.13169900]

>>13168777
Name someone that had their success that we have forgotten

[Anonymous No.13169950]

>>13168159
You realize that most great works of fiction are basically just "X but instead of Y it's Z", right? Being inspired by something isn't the same as ripping it off