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It's so fucking funny how this guy BTFOs literally every western white male, the absolute COPE that anglo /lit/ards spew to COPE with it hahahaha

>> No.13162045

It's been funny to watch so many people argue about Guénon and let yourselves get into so many arguments about him without really understanding him. Guénon's works are largely just an indirect commentary on the works of Ibn Arabi and Adi Shankara, in a similar way to how Evola is largely just an indirect commentary on and a response to Guénon. You'll never fully understand what exactly Guénon means and why he writes all the stuff that he does unless you read at least few thousand pages of writing from both of these thinkers. It seems like the the vast majority of people who read Guénon don't so this which IMO is why so many people seem to become befuddled or angry after reading Guénon's writings and why there are so many ad hominem arguments thrown at him.

I laugh every time I see people write stuff like "w-well uh he never fully explained intellectual intuition" or "he never solidly proved his ideas using logic according to my degenerated and emasculated empiricism"; that's besides the point!, Guénon was not writing to convince people who didn't agree with him, he couldn't care less about those people. His writing is aimed at fellow autodidacts who already read a huge amount of esoteric/metaphysics and who will actually read much the eastern thinkers he references. When you read Ibn Arabi and Shankara they literally take you by the hand and walk you through all the stages of understanding of all the stuff that Guénon explains and mentions in passing; it immediately becomes apparent once you read enough of them why exactly Guénon wrote what he did, many of the ideas that people consider to be his unique idea actually already appear in the works of these two thinkers where they are explained in even more depth than Guénon's treatment of them. I see many people complain or have criticisms of Guénon that he never demonstrates this eastern 'divine intellect' etc or 'metaphysical realization', that's because it's only something that very bright and motivated people can understand if they have the willpower and power of comprehension required to read through large amounts of both Ibn Arabi and Shankara; two sages who evade comprehension by the intellectually-dogmatic and dull-minded!

>> No.13162060

>>13162045
based

>> No.13162062
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>>13162035

>> No.13162328

>>13162035
Rene Guenon pretty much stands above every other European thinker from the 17th century onwards

>> No.13162575

>>13162328
>>13162062
>>13162060
>>13162035
Imagine such a huge cope.

>> No.13163140

>>13162035
>>13162045
>>13162060
>>13162062
>>13162328
Please, I beg you, if you're going to read even a single post on this website for the rest of your life, let it be this one. Have sex

>> No.13163147

What is the point of these threads and why do jannies keep them up. They are just spam

>> No.13163411

ITT: seething Angl*ids

>> No.13163635

Guenon is cool and based

>> No.13165742

>>13163147
Guenon is the patron saint of /lit/, this is our form of devotion (bhakti) to him

>> No.13165751

>>13165742
Fuck you, guénonposter, no one likes you here.

>> No.13165765

>>13165751
Im actually the Coomaraswamy poster, I just do this in my spare time

>> No.13165785

>>13162328
this

>> No.13165801

>>13165765
this: >>13165751

>> No.13165943

>>13165765
Imagine pooposting on your spare time.

>> No.13165957

being a contrarian doesn't make you smart.

>> No.13166167

>>13162045
stop spamming this pasta

>> No.13166184

>>13166167
The dumb pieces of shit who think guénon is some kind of pseud. LMAO. He's a brilliant mathematician, knows his western philosophy better than anyone on this board. He also learned arabic, chinese and sanskrit. That puts him above pretty much anyone in the western world. But that would require you braindead morons to open one of his books. The state of pseuds makes me want to vomit. I don't even larp as an orientalist or a metaphysicist or whatever.. But I actually read shit and buzzwords like "traditionalism" and other nonsensical terms don't have the slightest effect on me.

I won't even dwelve into his life as a sufi muslim.

Plebian mentality should be violently repressed. 99% of people should not get near any form of book or knowledge.

>> No.13166222

>>13162035
This is video of siddhi adepts being BTFO'd by common anglo causal flow of matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFdhoi3wRII
How guenonfags will ever recover?

>> No.13166225

>>13166222
This.
Guenonfags just can't refute this.

>> No.13166331

>>13162035
Evola is literally just Guenon but better in every way

>> No.13166364

We definitely need a new one of these threads every day

>> No.13166402

>>13166331
Evola is the brainlet version of Guenon many for anti-social with an aspergers obsession for war.

>> No.13166516

>>13166402
>Guénon's initial evaluation of Buddhism was plagued by an astonishing lack of understanding. This evaluation was suppressed in the English edition ofOrient et Occident(Paris, 1924); Guénon later modified it in part, by making some concessions to a "Brahmanic" version of Buddhism, which is truly a Buddhism evirated of the specific and valid elements it possessed at its inception. These specific elements concerned an autonomous way of realization. In this realization, the action of a qualified individual who strives to attain the Unconditioned, even by means of violent efforts is the necessary counterpart of the descent of a force from above, which does not need "initiatory bureaucracies." What Guénon had to say in an unfortunate essay concerning "The Need for a Traditional Exotericism," must also be rejected, since it offers dangerous incentives and alibis to a reactionary and petty-bourgeois conformism. The pedantic representatives of Guénonian scholasticism should rather strive to reach a deeper understanding of the true meaning of the Way of the Left Hand, which is not any less traditional than the Way of Right Hand, and which has the advantage of emphasizing the transcendent dimension proper of every truly initiatory realization and aspiration.

>> No.13167188

>>13166516
Evola wrongfully claimed Buddhism was aristocratic and elitist while it was really the revolutionary, quasi-egalitarian and anti-hierarchical teaching of its time that undermined traditional social structures and authorities.

>> No.13167304

>>13166331
lmao imagine thinking this

>> No.13167332

>>13166331
Guénon is a filthy vicious carpet dealer.
Evola bought one like a complete moron.
Guénon is a toxic villain, Evola is just a weak retard.

>> No.13167368

>>13167332
Guenon was and is based and red-pilled, Evola a little bit less so

>> No.13167502

>>13167368
Guénon and Evola were stinkycarpetpilled.
Fun fact: the two of them were regularly beaten up for fun in the streets.

>> No.13167573

>>13167368
Guénon was an orientalist, he used dialectics to turn retards into muslims.
1. he flattered them, he made them feel they were right and enlighted.
2. he managed to inflate their ego
3. he made them turn against their own people and families (your local tradition is dead, it only lives in Orient, embrace it)
4. some became traitors, some others understood and rejected Guénon's teachings as vicious bullshit.
Light marxism was just one of the many tools he used for point 1.
Guénon was just a filthy vicious carpet dealer.
Reading Guénon can be interesting, if the reader wants to study his manipulation tricks.

>> No.13168677

>>13167573
what am I reading?

>> No.13168778

what are the essential texts i need to read before tackling Guenon and Evola, yes I have asked this question in every thread because if this is all /lit/ wants to discuss any more then I don't want to approach it from a position of ignorance

>> No.13168967

>>13168677
It's an excerpt from "Kiffe la zicmu", by Patrick Maurillet-Fageot.
Read it.
It will change your life.

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>>13162328
*blocks your path*

>> No.13169000

It's been funny to watch so many people argue about Guénon and let yourselves get into so many arguments about him without really understanding him. Guénon's works are largely just an indirect commentary on the works of Ibn Arabi and Adi Shankara, in a similar way to how Evola is largely just an indirect commentary on and a response to Guénon. You'll never fully understand what exactly Guénon means and why he writes all the stuff that he does unless you read at least few thousand pages of writing from both of these thinkers. It seems like the the vast majority of people who read Guénon don't so this which IMO is why so many people seem to become befuddled or angry after reading Guénon's writings and why there are so many ad hominem arguments thrown at him.

I laugh every time I see people write stuff like "w-well uh he never fully explained intellectual intuition" or "he never solidly proved his ideas using logic according to my degenerated and emasculated empiricism"; that's besides the point!, Guénon was not writing to convince people who didn't agree with him, he couldn't care less about those people. His writing is aimed at fellow autodidacts who already read a huge amount of esoteric/metaphysics and who will actually read much the eastern thinkers he references. When you read Ibn Arabi and Shankara they literally take you by the hand and walk you through all the stages of understanding of all the stuff that Guénon explains and mentions in passing; it immediately becomes apparent once you read enough of them why exactly Guénon wrote what he did, many of the ideas that people consider to be his unique idea actually already appear in the works of these two thinkers where they are explained in even more depth than Guénon's treatment of them. I see many people complain or have criticisms of Guénon that he never demonstrates this eastern 'divine intellect' etc or 'metaphysical realization', that's because it's only something that very bright and motivated people can understand if they have the willpower and power of comprehension required to read through large amounts of both Ibn Arabi and Shankara; two sages who evade comprehension by the intellectually-dogmatic and dull-minded!

>> No.13169007

>>13169000
"Kiffe la zicmu" by Patrick Maurillet-Fageot

>> No.13169148

Dont know shit about this topic. Why is this dude being spammed?

>> No.13169163

>>13169148
It's a sort of muslim guru.

>> No.13169173

>>13168967
le Fageot kekekek

>> No.13169175

forced meme is forced

>> No.13169181

tst

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>>13169148
Realized the Western world was going to shit. Converted to Islam where he finally found peace and died in Cairo as an Egyptian (Gained citizenship).

>> No.13169209

>>13162035
doesn't a monkey pop up when you google his name, he's Darwinian I guess

>> No.13169219

>>13169202
>where he finally found peace
LOL Guénon was regularly beaten up in the street for fun.

>> No.13169234

>>13169202
>>13169163
Ok, thanks. that doesnt explain the spam though. ususally I see a thread or two but today it's been a shower. what happened.

>> No.13169243

>>13169202
>Realized the Western world was going to shit.
Not at all, he just used to tell that to the retards he wanted to convert to islam.
See point 3: >>13167573

>> No.13169247

>>13162035
Terrible post.

>> No.13169455

>>13167188
>>13167304
>>13167332
>>13167368
>spooky nazi bad
Basically the only reason you dismiss Evola

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>>13169234
>how new r u