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leave Bergson to me

>> No.13159463

>>>/tg/

>> No.13159466
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>> No.13159520

>>13159466
nice

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>>13159446

>> No.13160980

>>13159673
backwards

>> No.13161627

>>13159466
>buy my oriental carpet
No, and fuck off.

>> No.13161641

>>13161627
>unable to formulate any argument beyond /pol/-tier ad hominems about orientalism and carpets
Sad! many such cases

>> No.13161676 [DELETED] 

>>13161641
Imagine "formulate an argument" to a carpet dealer instead of insulting him and beating him.

>> No.13161689

>>13161641
Imagine "formulating an argument" to a carpet dealer instead of insulting him and beating him.

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>>13159446
his face reminds me of nick

>> No.13161765

tyhis nigga lookin like a modigliani lmao

>> No.13161781

>>13159446
literally steals wyndham lewis's critique of bergson and then denies classicism and rationalist philosophy to be edgy. Guenon didn't seem to read very many books himself...

>> No.13161792

>>13161781
Guénon is all about dialectics, orientalist dialectics.

>> No.13161805

>>13161781
>steals

muh ideas are property!!!! lol shut the fuck up you dumb retard

>> No.13161858

>>13161805
imagine thinking guenon is influential whatsoever lmao, literally a footnote to history

>> No.13161873

>>13161858
Guénon fanboys are pathetic cult-tier lunatics.
Hating their own people make them feel so smart.

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>>13161858
>imagine thinking guenon is influential whatsoever lmao

>> No.13161980

>>13161965
Wow, what a bunch of irrelevant losers!

>> No.13162025

>>13161980
cope

also

>buying into the spectacle
lmao

>> No.13162042

>>13162025
Keep ruining your life with your oriental bullshit, loser!

>> No.13162055

It's been funny to watch so many people argue about Guénon and let yourselves get into so many arguments about him without really understanding him. Guénon's works are largely just an indirect commentary on the works of Ibn Arabi and Adi Shankara, in a similar way to how Evola is largely just an indirect commentary on and a response to Guénon. You'll never fully understand what exactly Guénon means and why he writes all the stuff that he does unless you read at least few thousand pages of writing from both of these thinkers. It seems like the the vast majority of people who read Guénon don't so this which IMO is why so many people seem to become befuddled or angry after reading Guénon's writings and why there are so many ad hominem arguments thrown at him. I laugh every time I see people write stuff like "w-well uh he never fully explained intellectual intuition" or "he never solidly proved his ideas using logic according to my degenerated and emasculated empiricism"; that's besides the point!, Guénon was not writing to convince people who didn't agree with him, he couldn't care less about those people. His writing is aimed at fellow autodidacts who already read a huge amount of esoteric/metaphysics and who will actually read much the eastern thinkers he references. When you read Ibn Arabi and Shankara they literally take you by the hand and walk you through all the stages of understanding of all the stuff that Guénon explains and mentions in passing; it immediately becomes apparent once you read enough of them why exactly Guénon wrote what he did, many of the ideas that people consider to be his unique idea actually already appear in the works of these two thinkers where they are explained in even more depth than Guénon's treatment of them. I see many people complain or have criticisms of Guénon that he never demonstrates this eastern 'divine intellect' etc or 'metaphysical realization', that's because it's only something that very bright and motivated people can understand if they have the willpower and power of comprehension required to read through large amounts of both Ibn Arabi and Shankara; two sages who evade comprehension by the intellectually-dogmatic and dull-minded!

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>>13161858
>muh influence

>> No.13162070

>>13162055
another orientalist poop hits the ground

>> No.13162074

>>13161873
>their own people

yikes

>> No.13162085

>>13162042
Many of the most important and influential western philosophers either were significantly influenced by eastern ideas, or only expounded an idea long after the easterners first did.

>> No.13162118

>>13161781
Guenon is much better than lewis

>> No.13162163

>>13162085
>significantly influenced by eastern ideas
There is a word for that: traitor

>> No.13162261

>>13162085
>only expounded an idea long after the easterners first did
orientalist lie

>> No.13162286

>>13162074
Guénon's orientalist dialectics endgame in a nutshell.
Thanks, retard.

>> No.13162304

>>13162261
Platonism is largely preempted by the pre-Buddhist Upanishads
>>13162163
was Plato a traitor for studying under Egyptian priests?

>> No.13162319

what are his critiques of bergson? to my mind, they have similar positions re: positivism

>> No.13162324

>>13162304
Keep posting delirious orientalist nonsense, traitor.

>> No.13162436

>>13162056
lolll imagine arguing that being an influential person is something that should be avoided

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>>13162324
>red team blue, blue team bad

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>>13162436
>an influential person is something that should be avoided
Given the sad state of the 'intellectuals' held up as influential by the modern media that sounds like a very good idea indeed

>> No.13162457

>>13162436
>>13162444
*punches you in your face while laughing his ass off*

>> No.13162594

>>13160980
You wish

>> No.13162621

>>13162594
Aren't you tired of being bullyed like that, Guénonposter?
Let me guess... You are too old to go back, you have already put too much time and energy in this Guénon bullshit, and any going back would be to hurtful...

>> No.13162888

>>13162621
I don't even like Guenon. I was bullying the Guenon poster, retard.

>> No.13162929

>>13162286
you're welcome, reddit cucklord

>> No.13162932

>>13162888
nice try guenonfag

>> No.13163070

If the Hindus are so good why can't they understand the metaphysics of the toilet?

>> No.13163074

>>13163070
>solves metaphysics in 800 BC
nothing personal kid

>> No.13163082

>>13163074
Do people unironically think indian philosophy has the answer to the mysteries of metaphysics?

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>>13159446
>small forehead, long midface

>> No.13163150

why, op, why

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>>13163082
It does