/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.13156777]

is tao lin's shift from hipster fool to psychadellic wiseman the greatest transition in the history of the written word?

seriously. trip is a masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.13156837]

I was gonna buy this but I didn't want to have to explain to my mom that I'm not some psyched out wiz or anything, just a fan of the writer

[Anonymous No.13156860]

>>13156837
i understand your fear. i also felt that fear. the truth is that she won't realize you've bought it. idk as long as you don't retweet him nobody is going to realize that you agree with him. that's why you read books - it's not some broad social contract you can just listen to them without having to announce it socially.

smoke weed

[Anonymous No.13156880]

I been doing psychedelics long before Tao and think wisemen belong in the past... that said, Taipei was good enough to interest me, I am just broke and have a lot more on my stacks first...

[Anonymous No.13157109]

[Anonymous No.13157171]

>>13156837
download the e-book

[Anonymous No.13157174]

Tao gave us Goddess Megan

[Anonymous No.13157183]

>dude drugs lmao
kys

[Anonymous No.13157190]

Go to bed Tao

[Anonymous No.13157206]

>>13156777
Tao, is the Tootsie Queen mad at us?

[Anonymous No.13157212]

>>13157174
so women can be footfags too. interesting

[Anonymous No.13157510]

>>13157212
It's le quirky irony.

[Anonymous No.13157580]

does Tao Lit browse /lit/?

[Anonymous No.13157590]

>>13156837
Stop living with your mom.

[Anonymous No.13157884]

>>13157212
She's trying to appeal to men on the internet.

[Anonymous No.13158286]

>>13156777
>needing pharmakeia to transcend
never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.13158313]

>>13157580
He does and I want him to fuck me.

[Anonymous No.13158357]

>>13157206
Imagine all 129.4 of those pounds resting firmly on your face.

[Anonymous No.13158363]

>>13156777
>muh lifechanging shroom trip!
pass. enjoy the rest of highschool though

[R Æ V S S Q A N D V S !KNDYYIIins No.13158383]

>>13157174

MEGAN BOYLE IS A JEW —UNSURPRISING.

[Anonymous No.13158410]

>>13158383
Glad to see my jew-sense is still so finely attuned. If there was a single jew in the entirety of NYC I would be able to sniff that jew out within 3 minutes.

[Anonymous No.13158415]

>>13158410
>single jew
>in NYC
ha?

[Anonymous No.13158468]

>>13158415
For scale.

[Anonymous No.13158480]

>>13158383
>>13157884
Maybe she's "just being alive, a Liveblog"(Boyle, Megan. Liveblog. 2013. Chaimowitz and Pedobaum Publishing. Pages 614-615.)

[Anonymous No.13158492]

>>13158480

new yorkers tend to look like they stink

[Anonymous No.13158493]

>>13158410
What is it, if you can even surmise, that you sense about them? What sorts of aromas do you detect?

[Anonymous No.13158498]

>>13158492
Imagine scraping the pheromone rich epiderma from her sweetie parts haha

[Anonymous No.13158524]

>>13158498

fuck jannies

[Anonymous No.13158533]

>>13158383

[Anonymous No.13158542]

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[Anonymous No.13158612]

>>13158533
>some vapid whore's twitter feed gets published
>the manuscripts /lit/ slaves for months or years over have no chance because we didn't suck the right penis

[Anonymous No.13158621]

>>13158612
Are you certain?

[Anonymous No.13158652]

>>13158492
As a smelly New Yorker, I can confirm it is not just appearance.

[Anonymous No.13158690]

>>13158410
Kek,

[Anonymous No.13158701]

>>13158533
it blows my mind and desecrates my soul to think people actually read this, let alone gave it positive reviews
dark times we live in

[Anonymous No.13158715]

>>13156777
its literally recited wikipedia articles

[Anonymous No.13158772]

Why would I want to read Chad's journal?

[Anonymous No.13158937]

[Anonymous No.13158938]

>>13158937
does she ever talk about shitting?
if not this is just a puff piece mockery of true sincerity

[Anonymous No.13158943]

Psychedelic drugs are a huge waste of time and an enormous hazard to the mind.

[Anonymous No.13158946]

>>13156777
>returning to the tired tropes of over fifty years past
wowe so cut edge

[Anonymous No.13158949]

>>13158383
heh

[Anonymous No.13158959]

>>13156777
>trip is a masterpiece
As somebody who's actually tripped a little, Trip is a terrible embarrassment to Tao Lin and it leads me to have difficulty imagining that he ever has written or ever will write anything bearing any merit whatsoever. But I haven't read Taipei.

[Anonymous No.13159029]

alt lit was a mistake

[Anonymous No.13159139]

>>13158943
This, they aren't the answer, they're crazy but so is everything else, and fixating on them turns you into a babbling vegetable. Yes, they can stimulate thought (so can sitting in a white room with no furniture). The danger is so particular because every time someone tries it and has babby's first metacognition and correlates that to literally saving the world

[Anonymous No.13159150]

>>13156837
Just tell her it's about road trips. Mom's think they do but they don't .

[Anonymous No.13160047]

yes

[Anonymous No.13160579]

>>13158943
>>13159139

They may be a waste of time and they're not the answer but they sure as fuck aren't a hazard to the mind unless you have a history of mental illness, or you aren't actually ingesting what you think you are.

LSD, for example isn't addictive. Simply because you can't binge it without upping your dose a fuckload each time, which is very impractical and a waste. You have to wait for your tolerance to to back down before doing it again.
I've had a really bad LSD trip once, I still cringe mildly at it but it doesn't affect me in any way now.

And I'm not saying you can't to insane from overdoing them, because you definitely can. I'm saying they're not a hazard if you aren't a retard around them.

> The danger is so particular because every time someone tries it and has babby's first metacognition and correlates that to literally saving the world

That's stupid. Anyone who's done psychedelics knows that you get these thoughts and ideas that seem so profound, but once you're sober you realise they're usually not that "deep" and are just dumb.

[Anonymous No.13160589]

>>13156777
nice to see you back on /lit/, tao

[Anonymous No.13160674]

>>13157190
Came here to post this

[Anonymous No.13160686]

go to bed tao

[Anonymous No.13161031]

trip is good

[Anonymous No.13161060]

>>13158383
megan master race confirmed

[Anonymous No.13161344]

>>13156777
fuck off

[Anonymous No.13161352]

>>13156777
i whould like to know what books did u read in your life before to read TRIP, let me guess, none u cunt
trip its not a masterpiece m8

[Anonymous No.13161365]

>>13160579
Stop trying to justify your drug use. Do psychs all you want, just be aware that there are risks involved, and that you shouldn't downplay that fact.

[Anonymous No.13161447]

>>13158943
The government made them illegal because:
>A) The politicians really care about our well being and they're DaNgErOuS tO tHe MiNd
>B) The CIA studied them extensively and understood that they posed a threat of heightening class consciousness and creating a paradigm shift that threatened the powers that be

[Anonymous No.13161508]

>>13158937
post more pls
your favorite parts

[Anonymous No.13161524]

>>13161447
What can doing psychedelics accomplish for the mind that actually learning history can't? That's the real way they control us, by controlling how much history we know.

[Anonymous No.13161551]

>>13161447
lol, no on B
the CIA went absolutely off the rails with LSD when they first got their hands on it-
dosing fellow agents and watching them run into the streets naked and deranged, dosing hooker's customers secretly, even dosing street people and poor blacks into unironic insanity and then leaving them on the streets
in fact the only GOOD thing they managed to achieve with LSD was getting it into hippie circles through military brats like Jim Morrison, or the students of Bob Hyde at Harvard and completely derail the anti-war movement.
after that they and the upper echelons of government in this country were scared that random rucks would start using CIA methods and dosing politicans and agents in public and had it classified as an illegal substance
tl;dr go read The Search For The Manchurian Candidate, by John Marks

[Anonymous No.13161642]

>>13158701

that excerptreads well. finished memoirs of a young aesthete the other week id take this (if it's representative) over big chunks of that. journals were morecommonly published in the past, i think.

[Anonymous No.13161649]

>>13161524
They can shift your perceptive window to more readily understand that history is controlled, that everything is controlled.

They aren't necessary, but are a tool that can be utilized to question the nature of the system, just as learning history can be.

>>13161551
That proposed reason for making them illegal makes zero sense. LSD is plenty available and that wouldn't do anything against fears of weaponizing it.

Making it illegal did on the other hand allow for criminality to be associated with a movement and ideology that worked in opposition against state interests. It dissuaded people from experiencing what it had to offer.

[Anonymous No.13161701]

[Anonymous No.13161741]

>>13161701
I'm eternally grateful to Windows to the Sole. His disgusting writings cured me of my foot fetish and yes it IS a degenerate disease

[Anonymous No.13161796]

>>13156777

B R A A P

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[Anonymous No.13161804]

>>13158701
why?she's a good writer and thinker. there's something obsessive in liveblog probably no anon has committed to.

[Anonymous No.13161824]

>>13160579
>LSD, for example isn't addictive.
That's what I said 3 years ago and I've done it about once every month or two since.

[Anonymous No.13161887]

>>13161642
>>13161804
it's false sincerity; it's marketed as pure thought and what it actually is is mundanity
>>13158938
consider this in a general sense- does she spend a of time dwelling on the actuall dark or wretched portions of her/ the human soul? I don't know, I haven't wasted my life reading it, but every excerpt I read has the typical trite interplay of "teehee I should stop writing this, but I won't"
it's self-serving and tedious, pardon me for not being impressed when people display that they are capable of the same things as anyone other person on the planet yet presume they are better for it

[Anonymous No.13161904]

>>13161649
>LSD is plenty available
do you have access to a gallon of LSD rn? cause what I imagine you mean is that you could by ten microdoses from some shady loser if you really really wanted- not a good supply if you want to weaponize

also I think associating criminality with the movement IS what the gov would want

[Anonymous No.13161918]

>>13161887
have sex

[Anonymous No.13161938]

>>13161918
>cumbrain
sry m8

[Anonymous No.13161950]

>>13161352
the usual kind from shakespeare to borges to huxley. i also read tai pei, tao lin's early poetry, and various selections from the alt-lit scene of the early 2000s which gave me plenty of context.

trip was refreshing in both its honesty and its form (falling somewhere between autofiction, biography, and hippie tract). also, his descriptions of the mushroom/dmt trips were hilarious. trip is most definitely a masterpiece and will be remembered among the great works of literature of the 2010s. feel free to screencap this, my friend.

[Anonymous No.13161968]

>DUDE LSD LMAO
have sex

[Anonymous No.13162003]

>>13161904
Do you understand what I mean when I say "seek the onion?" yes you can get a lot of virtually anything

[Anonymous No.13162009]

Is Tao Lin a meme or a good writer?

[Anonymous No.13162017]

Just chiming in to say I've used over a dozen different psychedelics and nearly 80 chemicals total, recreationally. Drugs aren't cool but they can be fun on occasion. Psychs are dangerous, no you having a difficult time for an hour or two is not a "bad trip", not everyone needs to use psychs but if do the research they can be a good experience, never take more then half a tab of any blotter you don't personally know the potency of, buy a mg scale if you're dosing below 25mg.

I think thats everything

[Anonymous No.13162040]

>>13162003
anon, strategy does not fly out the window just because X is technically in some small way possible
for the purposes of effective anti-government weaponization, no LSD is not a viable option, sorry

[Anonymous No.13162051]

>>13162040
I wasn't that guy, I was just saying you can get a lot. I'm pretty sure LSD breakdowns in tap water pretty quickly anyway.

[Anonymous No.13162084]

>>13161904
So if it was made illegal for the purpose of preventing weaponizing the substance, then possession on a single tab of acid is illegal because... why exactly? Why not just production or possession over a quantity of >10 grams?

It has nothing to do with protecting the people's interests. It does protect government interests, but not because it's a literal direct threat that can "poison" operatives. They want conformity to the narrative they control because that's the only way they maintain power. Widespread consumption of LSD would threaten that.

[Anonymous No.13162106]

>>13162084
because why would being able to throw a hippie in jail for anything be bad? you presume that the gov has any interests but saving it's own skin- the gov ESPECIALLY has no interests in letting people have drugs for fun- why wouldn't they criminalize it with the full force of the law?

also I don't disagree with your second point at all, I don't know what the problem is?

[Anonymous No.13162462]

Liveblog bump

[Anonymous No.13162480]

>>13156777
hi tao. don't forget to go outside today.

[Anonymous No.13162490]

are psychodelics /lit/?

[Anonymous No.13162500]

[Anonymous No.13162520]

LSD is illegal because people do dangerous and dumb shit while under its influence, this isn’t a grand conspiracy of the man keeping us down lmao

[Anonymous No.13162542]

>>13162462

stream of consciousness was cool sixty years ago but now it's just the default form of all communication since no one is expected to edit their thoughts at all any more, making people like this and annie clark utter hacks for thinking that the regurgitation of their mental content is somehow interesting

[Anonymous No.13162586]

>>13162462
>>13162500
is tao lin londonfrog?

[Anonymous No.13164150]

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[Anonymous No.13165821]

>>13161365
I haven't done LSD in like three years
I'm not trying to justifying shit

>>13161824
You can do it every "month or two" and not be addicted. An addiction is a dependence, the fact that you say "month or two" shows that it's not a dependence, because you miss it every couple months a dependence is wanting to do it every hour of every day and thinking about it all the time to the point where you can't focus on anything else except getting your score.
If you are actually addicted and not memeing then get help.

[Anonymous No.13166039]

>>13161824
This. I began a lifestyle slave role six months ago and I'm administered a small dose of LSD every five days followed by a cleanse or MDMA. Chastity, high protocols, women's beauty rituals sleeping in a dog crate and walking in high heeled boots are a challenge on their own, but the LSD helps me learn and remain very sensitive and open. They call them my "subby pills," because the expectation is Dominas get a better sub from the dosage. For milestone play, they can up the dosage and also have the Molly to help make challenging submission and service feel easier.

[Anonymous No.13166068]

>>13158943
This

[Anonymous No.13166373]

>>13166039
>Chastity
Have sex

[Anonymous No.13166505]

>>13162520
Check: alcohol isn't illegal.

[Anonymous No.13166528]

>>13166505
It’s only legal because of sociohistorical reasons, reasons which are completely missing from the context of LSD.

[Anonymous No.13166625]

No, drug wankery is just an extension of hipster bullshit, not a move away from it.

[Anonymous No.13166629]

trip

[Anonymous No.13166802]

>>13156777
Trip is a nice gentle read that is quietly thought provoking. I don't think it's going to blow anybody's minds or completely change the way they view the world, but it poses some nice reflections without being too forceful or anything like that. It made me think, but in a nice way - if that makes sense, idk.

Also I think formalistically it is interesting, I like the combination of non-fiction with memoir. It's like you learn all the facts in the first half then see how they apply to Tao's day to day life. So I thought that was neat. Also I liked the quiet humour in it. I don't think people give Tao enough credit re: self-awareness. I liked the little detail about the indigenous south americans who claim to have some millenia old recipe then its revealed that whatever plant they're using was introduced by the spanish or something. can't remember exactly what it was something like that. i like it because it kinda calls into question a lot of the 'ancient wisdom' he refers to in the first half but he decides to include it anyway.

[Anonymous No.13166816]

>>13164826
Tell me about Megan. Why does she take the xanax?

[Anonymous No.13166825]

>>13158943
this

[Anonymous No.13166989]

>>13158383
>boyle
She's irish

[Anonymous No.13167339]

>>13166816
Megan would be devoured by her constituent lusts if she wavered an iota from her laborious pharmacology. You'd probably hear of her stealing AOC's bikram mat or even the sneakers Alexandria is known to wear during travel to her office before she changes into heels, pumps, slides or wedges, though I personally would prefer AOC not impact and so weather the supple padding of her feet and spend as much time as is feasible reclined on a hammock or some spacious upholstery, indulging in heroic dermatological measures like wrapping her feet in detoxifying muds and clays found near her Latinx and Semitic phylogeny.

[Anonymous No.13167404]

if hairy women take hallucinogens, can they write like men?

[Anonymous No.13167733]

>>13167339
>mfw megan/braap barn/feet/aoc/yonia/tao lin pasta will NEVER STOP

[Anonymous No.13167744]

glad to see you still shilling here after years of absence and irrelevance

[Anonymous No.13168208]

>>13167744
Is it healthy to generate this much antipathy all because some authors cannot pass the Foreign Legion's PT screening?

[Anonymous No.13168235]

IS TAIPEI GOOD?

[Anonymous No.13168644]

>>13167744
>>13167733

This shit is top 10 best things to come out of /lit/.

[Anonymous No.13168656]

>>13157590
I save money on rent so I can put down a payment on a house earlier than my peers
I get a freshly made home cooked meal every night
I live within walking distance of everything I need
Not reading the new Tao Lin is a trade off I'm willing to make

[R I C E C A E N D Y --+ !gNJ5O0SenA No.13168707]

>>13158383
N E O G O T H I C E M P I R I C I S M