Opinions?

[Anonymous No.13152191]

I just started reading again for the first time since hs. Currently half way through pic related. What does /lit/ think of it?

[Anonymous No.13152196]

>>13152191
Flat characters. Interesting worlds. Plot driven page turner. Some of the better scifi, but not quite literature. Kinda like how 90% of anime is trash.

[Anonymous No.13152199]

Reddit, the sci fi.

[Anonymous No.13152212]

>>13152196
so far everyone but paul is pretty flat. can't argue there. I have been enjoying it tho. Mostly want to discover more about the planet and fremen

[Anonymous No.13152220]

>>13152199
where is scifiChan?

[Anonymous No.13152226]

>>13152196
And if not Dune, what science fiction, in your opinion, falls in the 10%?

[Anonymous No.13152265]

>>13152226
Roadside Picnic

[Anonymous No.13152277]

God Emperor of Dune is the real treasure

> You must remember that I have at my internal demand every expertise known to our history. This is the fund of energy I draw upon when I address the mentality of war. If you have not heard the moaning cries of the wounded and the dying, you do not know about war. I have heard those cries in such numbers that they haunt me. I have cried out myself in the aftermath of battle. I have suffered wounds in every epoch—wounds from fist and club and rock, from shell-studded limb and bronze sword, from the mace and the cannon, from arrows and lasguns and the silent smothering of atomic dust, from biological invasions which blacken the tongue and drown the lungs, from the swift gush of flame and the silent working of slow poisons...and more I will not recount! I have seen and felt them all. To those who dare ask why I behave as I do, I say: With my memories, I can do nothing else. I am not a coward and once I was human.

[Anonymous No.13152283]

>>13152226
I think dune falls in that 10%. I'm saying that I have yet to read science fiction that was more along the lines of literature dealing with the reality of the human condition. But the point there is that scifi is generally beyond tropes like that in exchange for dreaming of the future of society as a whole instead of the individual's actions. I remember reading a shitload of pulp novels and war hammer books when I was younger and they were like watching a really shitty straight to tv movie. There was nothing memorable from them for the most part. They were fun, sure. But they didn't leave much an impact on me. I enjoyed the Foundation trilogy, the hitchhikers guide series even if it is a reddit meme, Ubik and generally any of PKD's stuff, slaughterhouse five. I still can't get the hang of the prose style from neuromancer. Sure, there may be a diamond in the rough somewhere that isn't from a list of "best scifi ever" but theres generally a reason they are hyped up.

[Anonymous No.13152332]

>>13152196
>>13152199
bluepilled opinions

Dune is a masterwork of fiction that builds systems thinking into most every aspect of its plot, commentary, etc. Paul's "race consciousness" in his attempt to grapple with his prescience and the uncompromising, inevitable nature of the Jihad is a great portrait of humanity period, but especially of the modern condition with our submersion in the digitized flood of voices from across the centuries. The ecological elements are also cool, but a lot less strong in their statements and diagnoses than when Herbert focuses in on human cultures.

[Anonymous No.13152335]

>>13152283
I don't understand this chart, lower satisfaction? Does that mean bad? Why even recommend them?

[Anonymous No.13152357]

>>13152335
I'd assume its ranking top 5, but in classic scifi manner, the image author was autistic.

[Anonymous No.13152359]

>>13152277
You know, I don't think I've ever read a book where so little happens and liked it.

[Anonymous No.13152361]

>>13152191
It's good. Can't wait to see what based Villeneuve does with it.

[Anonymous No.13152381]

>>13152332
Well damn I hope I see all that in the rest of it

[Anonymous No.13152392]

>>13152361
Will definitely be scoping out the movie too

[Anonymous No.13152413]

>>13152335
It means what it says, which is literally that any given read is more or less likely to enjoy it. None of the books on that chart are, in my opinion, bad, although some of them are either better or have at least aged better than others.

For instance, The Night Land is a tremendously compelling vision of the power of love in the face of absolute hopelessness and absolute defeat set in a richly imagined and highly original world. It's also written from end to end in a pseudo-Elizabethan style that was pretentious and out of place even when it was written, and without a single line of dialogue.

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