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He says George signed an agreement with D&D that he can't release them before the show finishes

https://youtu.be/FeftoI3c81c?t=1879 [Embed]

Timestamp is 31:40 btw.

>> No.13105318

>>13105251
He hasnt even started yet.
He'll have Neil Gayman ghost write them Because He's scared not to be considered a """"genius"""" by his braindead readers anymore.
Typical gamma male need behaviour: won't take risks so he can't fail.
Accept the fact that You will never read the endings.

>> No.13105660

>>13105251
This is not true
but i'll believe it anyway

>> No.13105674

>>13105251
Based if true

>> No.13105758

>>13105251
>https://youtu.be/FeftoI3c81c?t=1879
somebody post that interview where GRRM says that at first he was hesitant about merchandising his books, but then he realized that Fitzgerald would have had Gatsby bobblehead dolls in a heartbeat if he had that offered

>> No.13105776

>>13105758
Fitzgerald had a nervous breakdown because he had to write happy endings to short stories to make them sell lel

>> No.13105924

>>13105251
>Source: someone told me just trust me bro

>> No.13105929

>>13105318

vox's little bitch

>> No.13106189

If the books end up going the same way the fucking show has, I'll save several hours by not reading them.

>> No.13106319

I mean, why would McElhinney lie? Also, this is something I believed for a long time. I don't believe BOTH books are finished, just book 6.

>> No.13106368

>>13105251
I find this hard to believe, but he seams like a trustworthy person. If true wouldn’t George and DnD be mad that he outed their secret deal? Lol

>> No.13106384

>>13106368
I guess the actor figures that people are going to find out in a week or two anyway.

>> No.13106423

>>13105251
Man Selmy was one of my favourites.
>Selmy
>Stannis
>Littlefinger
>now Varys
all the coolest characters were just thrown into the trash can in the show.

>> No.13106441

>>13106384
Not to mention McElhinney is pissed that Dumb and Dumber ruined Selmy's character and, well, the entire story.

>> No.13106454

It would be very very odd for him to lie about this, though I also find it quite hard to believe both books are finished.
Though, to be fair, if the books ARE done, it somewhat redeems GRRM in terms of disproving writer's block/the idea he wrote himself into a corner he cannot emerge from, so he spent years and years doing anything BUT writing.

>> No.13106460

Is the plan to release the books and then sell the "remastered" ending after spending millions to film it again? Cuz that's incredibly stupid.

>> No.13106618

>>13105251
Fuck this better not be true. Didn’t GRRM say he planned to release book 6 in 2017 but it wasn’t finished? When was this deal made?

>> No.13106655

>>13106460
Lol

>> No.13106709

>>13106460
Make millions selling the books. Make more millions with the show. Release a sequel to make another million. More millions with the licensed game/shirt/lipstick/dildo/theme park/original Jon Snow's Longclaw™ of Game of Thrones®. Probably reboot the show in 5 years to make more money.
GRRM is a brand at this point, like Dalí 15 years before his death but without making one thing.

>> No.13106736

>>13106709
Ok but can George just release the fucking books now? This is the greatest series of all time and the world is sick of waiting.

>> No.13106740

Can I finish reading all 5 books in a week?

>> No.13106769

>>13106740
Probably, but I suggest you to not waste your time with this garbage.

>> No.13106778
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>>13106736
Why write when he can make money with his name alone?

>> No.13106783

>>13105251
Welp, better get to rereading the series. I don’t remember shit.

>> No.13106815

>>13106778
Wild Cards has always been a shared universe since before Game of Thrones got big.

>> No.13106967

>>13106189
Can't take the heat, normalfag?

>> No.13107393
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>>13105758
Only psueds don’t want their writing to be widely read, and a show only sells more books

>> No.13107448

>GURM isn't pulling a Jordan and won't die from fat before finishing
Blessed.

>>13106740
If you power through them, 3 days per book is what I'd imagine. But why would you do that? Read at your own pace. You can do them in a month easily, and the next one wont release for a month surely.

>> No.13107690

>>13105251
Ian is such a good actor man, one of the few highlights of that shit show. I hope he's right. Such a shame his character got killed because he called out D&D on being talentless hacks

>> No.13107706

>>13106740
Well, I guess that depends on how fast of a reader you are? I know that I personally could not. I feel like I can read, at max, like 200 pages, before my brain gets fried. And that's in general. ASOIAF has so many characters and plotlines and so much lore and details that you'll probably want to take it slow. If you're already familiar with a lot of the characters, that will hella help you get through the story.

>> No.13107805

>>13107690
>Here, boy! *clank* Melt it down and add it to the others.
I can still hear his delivery.

>> No.13108102

I have a question, how likely is it that GRRM will have Dany go crazy?

>> No.13108119

Why was Barristan's storyline in Dance the only good one in Essos? Everything there was shit and boring but the north had a lot of great moments.

>> No.13108162

>>13105776
iktf. Fitzy is based.
fuck happy endings, they're the most intellectually dishonest thing there is, it's even worse than writing vampire erotica. i could make that work. being forced to write happy things when i want to be honest about the reality of life is torture, it's worse than selling out. i'd rather suck penis to get published than be forced to write happy stories. at least being a whore is honest.

>> No.13108241

>>13106319
It stands to reason. I bet GRRM is getting a thrill from sitting on a finished book for a change.

>> No.13108253

>>13108102

He's been building up too that since her first POV chapter.

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>>13108162
>i'd rather suck penis than actually have some fucking guts to be positive in my fan fiction

>> No.13108298

>>13108259
selling out physically is better than selling out intellectually

>> No.13108446

>>13108162
I think it's possible to have a semi-happy good ending

>> No.13108449

>>13108446
how is happiness attainable in this world?

>> No.13108458

>>13108449
By getting over yourself.

>> No.13108548

>>13108458
nice way to get out of answering. did the question make you uncomfortable? are you happy?

>> No.13108728

>>13108449
How is sadness attainable in this world?

>> No.13108738

>>13108253
Well she does constantly repeat "I am the blood of the dragon" in her head over and over again in her first chapter.

>> No.13108840

>>13108728
sadness is an innate quality. Everyone you love will die. Everything you attain will be taken from you. Your body will decay while you're still alive, trapping you in physical pain and declining physical ability. The earth is so massive and diverse that you could spend a lifetime exploring and never see even half of what is amazing and beautiful here, but for all but a few weeks of your life, you'll be trapped in one city, engaging in eight hours of work a day, holding onto the hope of a few weeks of freedom for the future sometime so far ahead that you wouldn't even bother to buy the plane ticket for months and months yet. That two people can never truly understand each other, that a man can't even separate his own public face from his true self, and before long forgets who he was and who he wanted to become. That civilization and sentience and peace are the exception from the norm. That two people simply cannot lay together for the rest of eternity, that outside needs will drive them apart before the span of mere hours have passed. That this world is a very large place, and there is no guaranteed place for you, no guaranteed need for you, that one day of bad luck is all it takes for everything to fall through your grasp.

>> No.13108961

>>13108548
Yes

>> No.13110320

>>13106740
I'd say a week and a half to two weeks

>> No.13110321

>>13108449
it isn't.

>> No.13110392

>>13106423
Littlefinger and Stannis are the ones I miss the most. Littlefinger was my all time favorite character

>> No.13110447

>>13108449
have sex

>> No.13110455

>>13110392
Littlefinger's death in the show was pretty dumb. It really seemed like it was done for shock value and "hehe thought you wouldn't see that coming xd". I hope the books do him justice, since he is one of the most interesting characters by far.

>> No.13110516

post predictions about how this series will ends

>> No.13110517

>>13105776
who reads the ending of a story before buying it?

>> No.13110522

>>13106454

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/13/idiocy-on-the-internet/

>> No.13110545

>>13110522
Obviously he would have to deny it if he's under NDA

>> No.13110559

>>13110545

He doesn't have to deny it if he's under NDA. He just doesn't have to say anything.

>> No.13110569

>>13110559
If he didn't say anything it would look too suspicious.

>> No.13110699

>>13107805
I just re-watched that scene on Youtube. It made me remember why I liked GoT a few years ago, when I first started watching it. The costumes and acting (for the most part) are fantastic in that scene. It's pretty astonishing how the overall quality of the show fell so dramatically, not only in terms of plot cohesion and writing but set design, costumes, acting, smaller details etc.
Later on the entire budget was dedicated to CGI and terrible actors demanding more money for terrible performances while all the talented actors are killed off and costumes became an absolute joke.

>> No.13110704
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>Related to this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person it is much safer to be feared than loved, when only one is possible. [...] Nevertheless a prince ought to encourage fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred. He can carry on very well being feared while he is not hated, which will always be as long as hekeeps away from the property of his citizens and subjects and from their women. But when it is necessary for him to proceed against the life of someone, he must do it with proper justification and for obvious reasons. But above all things he must keep his hands off the property of others, because men more quickly forget the death of their father than the loss of their inheritance.
Dany forgot to read the Prince

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>>13110704
>Dany forgot to read the Prince

WORSE: SHE DID NOT READ «EL HÉROE»:

>«EL QUE SE PIERDE A SÍ PROPIO, EL MIEDO DA LICENCIA A LOS DEMÁS, Y CON LA PERMISIÓN SUYA FACILITA LA AJENA.»

TRANSLATION:

>«HE WHO LOSES HIS OWN SELF, GIVES LICENSE TO THE FEAR OF OTHERS, AND, WITH HIS OWN PERMISSION, FACILITATES THE PERMISSION OF OTHERS.»

>> No.13110902
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13110902

George...couldn't you just let us live with the fantasy for a few days...

This rumor was the only thing to cheer me up in a while...

>> No.13111893

>>13110902
he's so fucking bold despite being such a gross human being, inside and out. how does one attain this level of cognitive dissonance?

>> No.13111946

>>13110902
HE HASNT EVEN FUCKING STARTED A DREAM OF SPRING WHAT THE FUCK HAS THIS FAT FUCK BEEN DOING THIS WHOLE TIME

>> No.13111994

>>13111946
reveling in his vast fortunes and eating gourmet hot dogs

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>>13111946

>> No.13112001

>>13110517
Publishers

>> No.13112007

>>13111893
I think he's protesting too much.

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>>13111946
heh heh heh

>> No.13112051

>>13108449
>how is happiness attainable in this world?
Depends on you.

If you're a miserable cunt who refuses to let himself be happy you will never attain happiness, and thus the prophecies come full circle.

I'm happy. Cry more, faggot.

>> No.13112058

>>13110704
I read this as encouraging Princes to behave fairly and honourably, but come down like the hammer of God the moment anyone gives them a reason.

So not "be feared because you're an unhinged lunatic" but "be feared because your justice is inescapable."

Correct?

>> No.13112122

>>13110455
>hehe thought you wouldn't see that coming xd"
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