/lit/ - Literature

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Anonymous Sat May 11 15:06:48 2019 No.13098051 [Reply] [Original]

*inhales* over ten thousand years ago the luminous monadic godhead emanated holy mantras through the aether into the minds of wise Aryan sages living an idyllic existence with their noble but fierce people in arctic Hyperborea, it was the last golden age, usury was banned; men conducted themselves righteously, women were chaste and loyal to their family. In the absence of maleficent psychic influences all well-meaning people as they approached the end of their lives successfully attained liberation and union with the monadic Supreme Being, the "Solar Self of all that is in motion or at rest" - (Rig-Veda I.115.1). Being subject to the same cyclic degradation as the rest of manifestation however, eventually the unique climatic conditions that allowed them to live in Hyperborea ended and the land was encased in a permanent blanket of ice and snow, driving the Aryans south where after mingling with several peoples they eventually formed and arranged themselves into the various Indo-European tribes of the Black and Caspian seas; the original expulsion from Eden.

Before long, destiny called and the wanderlust of the Aryans answered it with a relish. Successive waves of Aryans ventured out in their fearsome chariots and gloriously conquered most of the world in their vicinity, stamping their imprint and legacy upon Europe, Anatolia, Persia, India and western China. The eternal truth revealed by the Source was disseminated across the globe, where it was gradually woven into the fabric of almost every major religion and culture according to varying degrees of secrecy and esoterism. Even Taoism comes from the Tocharians. Western culture sprang from the intermingling of Indo-European esoterism and the antediluvian wisdom of Egypt that occurred in ancient Greece when the Aryan-derived mystery cults existed alongside and interacted with the dissemination of Atlantean knowledge that occurred when Plato and others studied with Egyptian priests; flourishing in the eventual culmination of Neoplatonism which during its heyday represented a return to the golden age of Hyperborean wisdom.

Anonymous Sat May 11 15:07:20 2019 No.13098055
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>>13098051

The Israelites were originally an unremarkable Semitic tribe existing alongside many others of a similar ilk all with their own basic tribal cults; Herodotus makes no mention of them despite having had traveled through the area. When Babylon conquered Palestine and deported all the Israelites to slavery back in Mesopotamia, the cultural memory of the Israelites was wiped clean. Soon the Aryan Persians conquered Babylon and the magnanimous Cyrus freed the Israelites and sent them back home, remaking the shattered remnants of their primitive tribal beliefs into a system resembling Zoroastrianism, for which he was praised as a messiah in the Jewish holy scriptures. The pain and ignominy of enslavement during the Babylonian captivity was too much for the Israelites to bear though. Even though Zoroastrianism preached a dualism involving a universal beneficent Father culminating in the esoteric non-dualism of Zurvan, the Israelites twisted what they had so graciously been taught and retconned Ahura Mazda as the sole true God of Yahweh with the Israelites as his "chosen people", in their vindictiveness they turned to narcissistic self-worship as a form of catharsis. All the ancients were astounded at their hostility and ill-character, Plutarch wrote about how the Egyptians believed that the Israelites worshipped the bringer of discord, Set.

The Dharma characterizing the lower, conditioned aspect of the monadic Supreme Being caused the incarnation of Jesus Christ to bring righteousness and truth to the region and its peoples. Christianity was originally an esoteric initiatic ascetic order open to all those with the courage to abandon everything to join Jesus in the Kingdom of Heaven here and now in this life. When a man asked to join Jesus on the road, Jesus warned him of what it entailed, "Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head" - (Luke 9:58). The Gospel of Thomas and its 'Q source' are both real, they are the words of Christ. The Israelites harbored a special hatred for Jesus because in his preaching of the true, universal father and his openness to everyone Jesus was confronting the Israelites with the wickedness of their own perversion of the eternal truth. Shankaracharya and Jesus were both too good for this world, which was why they were destined to die before the full span of their lives were over. The partial subversion of Christianity into the dogmatic limited-hangout of Paulism sowed the seeds of the West's eventual downfall into nihilism, hedonism and apathy after a long holdout against them during the middle ages. Christianity still offers a valid path through Theosis, but to get there and be ready for it westerners have to battle the multi-headed hydra of modern society and the values that it inculcates.

Anonymous Sat May 11 15:08:22 2019 No.13098062
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>>13098055

The conditioned aspect of the Supreme Being eventually descended again as Gabriel to disseminate to the Prophet the last revealed religion of this stage of human existence, Islam. Its absolute and all-encompassing nature which totally penetrates into every aspect of Islamic societies being appropriate to its role as an Ark against the flood of modernity. The conflicts between Islam and other religions being an unfortunate but ultimately irrelevant side effect of its coexistence alongside them; the revealed religions being equivalent to God tossing pebbles in a pond, when the ripples caused by each splash meet each other there is conflict as well as opportunity for learning. As the great Ibn Arabi correctly notes, Islam is the continuation of the previous revealed religions and does not invalidate them, compare 40 Hadith Qudsi 25 narrated by Abu Hurayrah and Brihadaranyaka 3.8.11. Non-conditional multiplicity is Shirk. Islam is an ally of the West in their struggle against the usurers and in the search for spiritual meaning. Islamic societies will always offer a second chance for westerners fed up with their culture who want to shed their identity and seek something new, but the eventual destiny of the West writ large is to rejuvenate western spirituality in an organic way and not to adopt something foreign.

The Russian Empire was the last chance for humankind to be guided into the modernity by a Traditional continent-spanning empire but the agents of darkness prevailed over it. The 20th and 21st centuries are the legacy of the collapse of monarchies and the spread of secularism, materialism, scientism, nihilism and so many other poisons. Post-scholastic philosophy stems from the need to fill the gaping hole in the heart of western society left by the absence of the transcendental Ātma-jñāna originally revealed to mankind at polar Mount Meru and again later by subsequent prophets. East Asia fared moderately better, the Buddhism it fell under the sway of was originally a crypto-egalitarian and proto-materialist subversive psyop, although later Buddhists who were initiated by Hindus and Taoists were able to salvage some of it. Heidegger and Debord exemplify man waking up to the emptiness of modernity and realizing something has been stolen from him, but without knowing exactly what it is. Marx also understood there was a problem but didn't realize the correct solution, a consequence of his alienation from the primordial Tradition like so many others. Evola was torn by the inner contradictions of having a heartfelt yearning to understand the primordial Aryan knowledge but at the same time being afraid of the total liberation from all name and form that this knowledge entailed; he couldn't accept that in the end multiplicity wasn't real, desiring to still retain in transcendence some form of permanent superiority or lasting individual achievement like a kid who can't put down a videogame.

Anonymous Sat May 11 15:09:25 2019 No.13098068
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>>13098062

There is a global struggle and metaphysical battle occurring between truth, harmony and justice and the opposing forces of darkness, ignorance and usury. The key Elite of NATO countries are mostly controlled by the Cabal through forced participation in pedophiliac human sacrifice ceremonies and the ensuing blackmail this allows, their antagonism towards China and Russian is motivated by their fear of Eurasia eventually becoming a global refuge from the usurers. There is an ongoing race to privatize everything so that from the moment you are born you are incurring massive debt simply for existing, this is how they mow the grass of the masses. You can do your part to prevent them winning by living virtuously, and by raising a family and instilling in the next generation Traditional values. Don't let materialistic and shallow obsessions become obstacles in the spiritual path. Allowing your time to be occupied by electronic entertainment makes you a metaphysical cuckold and a victim of psychic vampirism. When one conducts themselves in an exceedingly depraved way they are given one last chance in the form of rebirth as a black person before they lose human status and are reborn as animals. Time isn't real, only Now exists. If the forces of evil win humankind will be enslaved by machines and forced into manual labor to finance the hedonistic lifestyles of the usurers. Even this will come to pass though and the just and unjust alike will reconstituted into the primordial essence, those without Knowledge being eventually spat out again in the form of intelligent life. Humankind is just a flash in the pan of the abiding tranquility of the Supreme Being, the eternity of phenomenal existence just froth on the surface of the shoreless ocean of the immutable Divine. Wake up.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 15:09:41 2019 No.13098069 bump, digging the mythology. I love this stuff, OP. I want to write a book about parenting across the Bering strait

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 15:28:48 2019 No.13098155 Very nice. Have you studied the shanti parva of mahā bhārata? Or the catur yuga kanda of bhavishya purana?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 15:42:02 2019 No.13098206 >>13098155 No, but I will look into them, thank you for the recommendation

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 15:58:46 2019 No.13098273 >>13098068 >When one conducts themselves in an exceedingly depraved way they are given one last chance in the form of rebirth as a black person before they lose human status and are reborn as animals. Based

Anonymous Sat May 11 16:10:50 2019 No.13098322

This post is very interesting and has lots of value, certainly more than most things posted on this board. However, I am not sure whether I agree with the analysis that Paul corrupted Christianity nor do I agree that Russia and China are a "refuge from the usurers." I would like OP to clarify what he means by these two statements more.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:11:51 2019 No.13098326 this is based as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:16:06 2019 No.13098347 >>13098051 where did you get this all from?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:18:33 2019 No.13098359 >>13098051 I love that painting

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:21:16 2019 No.13098370 >>13098347 He might not have gotten it from him, but the entire post is very much reminiscent of something Evola would write.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:22:10 2019 No.13098377 >>13098347 Sounds like Guenon possibly Evola.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:22:20 2019 No.13098381 >>13098359 not OP, but its by a russian painter Vsevolod Borisovich Ivanov who likes to depict pagan Russia and the pre-Christian Rus. he has more paintings i na similar style, very idyllic

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:25:46 2019 No.13098404 File: 477 KB, 1380x1400, 0olshanskiyb_aleshapopovich.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098381 Boris Olshansky also does similar paintings

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:27:43 2019 No.13098413 this might be pedantic since i know op's post is more esoteric than anything, but we all know PIEs did a bunch of raping and killing, not exactly harmonious

Anonymous Sat May 11 16:32:01 2019 No.13098440
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>>13098051
>>13098055

>The Dharma characterizing the lower, conditioned aspect of the monadic Supreme Being caused the incarnation of Jesus Christ to bring righteousness and truth to the region and its peoples.

Aaaand.. Into the trash it goes

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:35:43 2019 No.13098462 >>13098051 this ain't /x/

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:37:27 2019 No.13098478 >>13098051 damn so does this mean that all these trad-posters are actually /x/-tier theosophists and gnostics?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:45:21 2019 No.13098525 >>13098051 Positing the origin of the Aryans in a mythical hyperborea was a politcal-cultural movement in order to detach the many indo-europeans tribes from their middle east historical origins ..

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:48:50 2019 No.13098536 File: 25 KB, 600x598, 1557606936713.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098051 >tfw you weren't born in Arctic Hyperborea to spend all day hunting, tripping on Soma, meditating and having sex with your QT trad Aryan wife

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 16:53:25 2019 No.13098567 >>13098347 he tapped into the Great Unconscious Consciousness[1] 1. So did I

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:02:12 2019 No.13098620 >>13098525 No, it was (((british conspiracy))) to attack The Truth. The whole world followed dharma until the death of Parīkshit some five thousand years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:16:16 2019 No.13098682 >>13098051 >>13098055 >>13098062 >>13098068 larp shit

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:16:28 2019 No.13098685 >>13098525 Descriptions of Arctic astronomy, solar/lunar patterns and climatic conditions appear in both the Aryan Vedas and Avestas

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:23:34 2019 No.13098715 File: 265 KB, 420x373, 1555976138835.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098682 >everything that I don't like, even if has nothing to do with acting out inauthentic things, is muh Larping. Sad!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:26:12 2019 No.13098721 >>13098051 Tolkien look out!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:27:53 2019 No.13098726 File: 50 KB, 550x543, 1555447743066.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098525 >indo-europeans >middle east origins

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:28:21 2019 No.13098731 we're reaching levels of autism that shouldn't even be possible

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:30:48 2019 No.13098742 File: 171 KB, 1508x892, 1551459996704.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098726 >hahaha if I post this cool Wojak that is super dumb that'll show him lol

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:33:34 2019 No.13098749 >>13098742 The statement is so utterly retarded, unless he's going to post whatever blog or youtuber he got that idea from, there's not much to say.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:37:52 2019 No.13098761 >>13098742 It's pretty simple. Indo-Europeans have their origins in the Pontic steppe, which today is situated almost entirely in Russia and Ukraine.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 17:41:28 2019 No.13098771 >>13098761 uhm indo-europeans have their origins in the Pleiadian star system, sem*teoid

Anonymous Sat May 11 17:57:43 2019 No.13098841

>>13098322

I agree that Eastern Europe is at this moment something of a refuge, but I can't agree with that description being applied to China. If anything the Chinese are liable to merge with the (((Western))) usurer class as they implement worldwide techno-tyranny (c.f. the fact that Mark Zuckerberg is married to a Chinese woman).

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 18:17:33 2019 No.13098939 >>13098051 What do i read to get on this level of gnosis?

Anonymous Sat May 11 18:49:15 2019 No.13099089

>>13098055
>The partial subversion of Christianity into the dogmatic limited-hangout of Paulism sowed the seeds of the West's eventual downfall into nihilism, hedonism and apathy after a long holdout against them during the middle ages.
Very Nietzschean

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 19:32:57 2019 No.13099292 >>13098440 Jesus Saves

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 19:35:27 2019 No.13099300 >>13098939 Just ask God for the truth and light a candle in church. God loves all that have pride in their existence.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 19:36:48 2019 No.13099307 >>13098841 China will become christian SIENER VAN RENSBURG PROPHECIZED IT. SIENER VAN RENSBURG DONT FUCK AROUND SEE YOU ON THE SAF ARI

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 19:40:13 2019 No.13099318 >>13098322 Modern christianity is idolatry and church power instead of anti materialism and enlightenment Jesus Christ taught

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 20:41:50 2019 No.13099579 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 20:46:48 2019 No.13099607 >>13098068 >When one conducts themselves in an exceedingly depraved way they are given one last chance in the form of rebirth as a black person before they lose human status and are reborn as animals. ahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 21:00:16 2019 No.13099695 >>13098478 No they just know that brainlets are

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 21:01:18 2019 No.13099709 in spite of my previous comment, not a bad thread. i have to post this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a1LV1IeG8U

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 22:22:43 2019 No.13100117 great post, more

Anonymous Sat May 11 22:36:31 2019 No.13100186
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>>13098939
Plato, Shankaracharya, Lao Tzu, the Gospels, the Quran, Vyasa, Dante, the Chaldaen oracles, the Egyptian and Hermetic texts, Avestas, Plotinus, Vasistha, Zhuangzi, Proclus, Ibn Arabi, Parmenides, Abhinavagupta, Eckhart, Leibniz, Sanai, Guenon, Pseudo-Dionysius, Dolpopa, John of the Cross, Evola, Palamas, Godwin, De Maistre, Uždavinys, Böhme, Al-Ghazali, Coomaraswamy and Tilak

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 22:38:41 2019 No.13100190 >>13098682 Based

Anonymous Sat May 11 22:41:27 2019 No.13100200
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> Allowing your time to be occupied by electronic entertainment makes you a metaphysical cuckold and a victim of psychic vampirism. When one conducts themselves in an exceedingly depraved way they are given one last chance in the form of rebirth as a black person before they lose human status and are reborn as animals.
I agree

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 23:02:24 2019 No.13100264 >>13098721 Truth is stranger than fiction - Mark Twain

>>	Anonymous Sat May 11 23:56:08 2019 No.13100455 >>13098462 /x/ is for magic and occultism which is largely the province of the lower classes, the crass and uninitiated, the spiritually deficient, the shallow. Very different from esoterism proper and related metaphysics

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 00:30:50 2019 No.13100543 OP, I'm black. What do?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 01:28:09 2019 No.13100731 >>13098068 >>13098062 >>13098055 >>13098051 Pretty good, reads better while listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d772AwpoNFs

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 01:33:52 2019 No.13100750 >>13100731 More great classical pls, the more underground the better

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 01:39:38 2019 No.13100773 >>13098051 >>13098055 >>13098062 >>13098068 So basically you're Muslim. Convince us how the NT is corrupted.

Anonymous Sun May 12 01:44:31 2019 No.13100782
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>>13100750
Sure thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQU8AdluxtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSaHvv5kBbw
https://youtu.be/MZWJFGdRl3E?t=3520
https://youtu.be/dp8KQCnOwcU?t=544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zocW7cPOdRc

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 01:52:26 2019 No.13100809 >>13098051 Was there even the idea of the individual/ego that long ago?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 02:08:35 2019 No.13100853 >>13100782 thx babe, listening to Schman's one right now

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 03:27:44 2019 No.13101060 >>13098051 based

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 04:45:38 2019 No.13101257 File: 93 KB, 1000x288, ykk01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13100782 > Gagaku You sir have patrician taste

Anonymous Sun May 12 05:04:28 2019 No.13101309
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>>13100782
Have some Ligeti, Throat singing, Georgian chant, Preisner and Pärt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wawSCvuGj4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVYu5lyX5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfrgN23yk9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIrdoGK0-xg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2QPNRY39aY&list=RD-2QPNRY39aY&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjzgKoUgx_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVU9b-po8H8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7L-VffHBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Y77YHGakQ

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 05:19:07 2019 No.13101333 >>13100809 its a modern invention.

Anonymous Sun May 12 05:21:29 2019 No.13101340
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>>13100782
Philip Glass: Einstein on the beach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CYK-OIOMXk
Nyman: Prospero's Books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htK3W0Acjsg
More Gagaku:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvNYZQH1Fo
Ravel: Pavane for a Dead Princess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUpQ5pCSOQ
Dead can dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hThAlY3Q2Kw
Ryuchi Sakamoto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oG5zeiesys
Bach on traditional japanese instruments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aioL4wC3eeI
More Preisner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHvabdxp4BI

Anonymous Sun May 12 05:41:40 2019 No.13101403
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>>13100782
Schnittke: Requiem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icNHpzt2JzA
Samuel Barber: Agnus Dei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiuC_CaObbI
Einaudi: The Earth Prelude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT27qHYXcjc
Bulgarian chant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcfJWWDuU_0
Jocelyn Pook: Masked Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnpLutpwaW4
Old Roman chant (pre-schism)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ych_dTX8G0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhP654dN3Ww

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 05:48:03 2019 No.13101417 >>13098478 Yes. That's the whole point. The "Eternal Tradition" is a LARP it never actually existed.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 05:49:09 2019 No.13101420 >>13099318 No It's not. See? I can play the same game.

Anonymous Sun May 12 05:49:27 2019 No.13101421

>>13098051
Do you have a single fact or argument to back this up? I can only imagine the posters praising this are bamboozled by its length because it's nothing but unfounded assertions. What makes you think the ancient Aryans lived 10000 years ago in the arctic and banned usury? Also "antediluvian" implies you believe in a worldwide flood, for which there is no geological evidence.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 06:17:16 2019 No.13101497 Not bad. I liked the opening the best with references to Plutarch, Herodotes and Plato. I tried the bhagavad Gita and Thomas gospel, but I just get lost in the allegories and parables. It could mean so many things that it becomes nothing at all.

Anonymous Sun May 12 06:30:51 2019 No.13101534

>>13101497
Don't apply all keys of interpretation at once, do it independently. Or if you do, remember that they (and an infinity of other meanings) are all real at the same time only in the mind of God. (for whom it may also be seen as nothing).

At any time, all can seem nothing. But this is aesthetic theology at heart; try to understand that your rational capacities will always reduce all to 1/0. Accept that you are not your mind

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 06:32:26 2019 No.13101540 >>13101421 >implies you believe in a worldwide flood, for which there is no geological evidence. Retard

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 06:36:17 2019 No.13101552 >>13101417 in that case, it seems like a lot of people unknowingly agree with the trad-posters

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 06:46:35 2019 No.13101584 Damn this is a good thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 07:09:31 2019 No.13101643 >>13098051 i like. except for the blatant slavbonging.

Anonymous Sun May 12 07:31:15 2019 No.13101699
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>>13100782
Glass: Mishima
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4XMeY1RkWQ
Dead can dance: Sanvean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_diN-Midg
Strauss: Thus Spake Zarathustra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-QFj59PON4
Pärt: Nunc Dimittis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pazzm_f8rJ8
Wada Yoshi: Off the wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WEyg2mLYJ8
Lisa Gerrard: Vespers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgvKMnrig74

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:07:20 2019 No.13101803 Thank you based classical and hyperborean posters. Keep 'em coming.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:10:30 2019 No.13101816 blessed thread

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:16:26 2019 No.13101841 WE WERE KINGS N STUFF

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:19:13 2019 No.13101848 >>13098478 That is the supposed endgame. /lit/'s asymptote forever draws closer to the /x/ axis.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:20:15 2019 No.13101851 >>13098536 >tfw you werent born in an Inuit village in Greenland, hunting whales for their meat and trying to fight off the cold

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:23:11 2019 No.13101862 >>13100773 seriously. why dont traddies like OP get along with the muslims? the ideology is rooted in similar beliefs and values

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:28:30 2019 No.13101881 >>13101862 they do though haven't you seen all the guenon threads?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:34:29 2019 No.13101891 >>13100455 Same thing dingus

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 08:37:46 2019 No.13101894 File: 25 KB, 480x480, BC86BA81-A2A6-471F-A4E1-5E824BE74871.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098051 >>13098055 >>13098062 >>13098068 Retard

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 09:03:44 2019 No.13101944 >>13101891 >t. brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 09:18:45 2019 No.13101982 >>13100543 act righteously and you'll be reborn as a superior white man.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 09:21:47 2019 No.13101996 tldr

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 09:30:28 2019 No.13102037 This is canon right?

Anonymous Sun May 12 09:30:48 2019 No.13102039

>>13101497
>I tried the bhagavad Gita and Thomas gospel, but I just get lost in the allegories and parables. It could mean so many things that it becomes nothing at all.
Try reading the Gita with a commentary such as the classic one by Shankara or a more modern one, there is a pretty specific meaning to it underneath the apparent broadness IMO

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 09:51:01 2019 No.13102124 >>13101894 >degenerate jezebel poster >calls others retard

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 11:07:47 2019 No.13102497 >>13101257 >>13101309 >>13101340 >>13101403 >ykk very based

Anonymous Sun May 12 11:46:30 2019 No.13102656
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>>13098347
Not OP but it is essentially a synthesis of Evola, Hinduism, and Gnosticism. I imagine there is some Guenon in there too, as the parts on Buddhism echo Guenon's thoughts.

Essentially, Guenon and Evola studied comparative mythology and deemed that there was a spiritually superior race in ancient times who they called the Aryans (the words Hindus and Iranians used for this race). Its existence is well-attested cf Indo-European studies, though Evola's conception is much more politicized. The beginning part is based on an old Indo-European myth (see Hyperborea and Mount Meru) that tells of the Aryan homeland being in a place to the north where a day was a year, with the sun being out half the year and set the other half (ie the Midnight Sun). The myths don't tell of this being a cold, desolate place though, they tell of it being more like an eternal springtime, which is why OP argues for a major climatic change in the form of a Deluge (somewhat well-attested cf the Young-Dryas geological period, though that was nearly 12,000 years before present.

The Gnostic part is a common idea about a more Aryan Christianity, most of the elements of which are already explained in OP. Gospel of Thomas is the alleged Gnostic Gospel. Gnosticism essentially viewed the old testament god as evil/not good (the demiurge), fashioning all the material aspects of the world which lure us in, falling prey to the world we are distracted from enlightenment.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 11:47:46 2019 No.13102660 >>13098771 B&R

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 12:50:41 2019 No.13102974 bump

Anonymous Sun May 12 13:25:26 2019 No.13103202
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>>13101699
Nice stuff
https://youtu.be/CdH0FAiz1Qk
https://youtu.be/bBm1w8J63mg
https://youtu.be/4G_6UPBGGKI
https://youtu.be/dSCwoYcp0IY
https://youtu.be/Qyx8NAbTD2M
https://youtu.be/lCHM1do5Vqw

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 13:28:00 2019 No.13103219 File: 105 KB, 252x241, 1557316803551.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098051 Were dragons real?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 13:33:36 2019 No.13103255 >>13103219 Yes retard. My great great grandpa fought one and then married it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 13:50:23 2019 No.13103339 >>13103255 post your tail crossbreed

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 14:05:40 2019 No.13103413 File: 32 KB, 474x680, 1557684340339.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13103339

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 14:05:47 2019 No.13103415 >>13102656 these larpers are fucking nuts lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 14:51:29 2019 No.13103685 >>13103415 Yikes! not a good look

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:02:06 2019 No.13103748 >>13098051 >>13098939 What does becoming enlightened to this sort of thing entail? What practices are involved?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:05:02 2019 No.13103764 >>13103748 Some experience with meditation to teach you there's a you outside your thinking. Then study metaphysics, smoke and lift weights until you ascend

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:05:31 2019 No.13103766 >>13103764 why smoke?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:11:31 2019 No.13103806 File: 115 KB, 1000x542, tumblr_mitpgxmSAI1r3sn0vo1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] important link http://www.floating-world.org/GalaticFederation.htm

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:12:06 2019 No.13103812 File: 896 KB, 3024x3024, 1556417695900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098051 >>13098055 >>13098062 >>13098068 >mfw

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:24:23 2019 No.13103886 Best thread in ages, thank you for the music.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:32:08 2019 No.13103935 File: 160 KB, 436x750, tumblr_mxe6x1fibn1qbu4mro1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] me on the bottom

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:33:38 2019 No.13103949 reminds me of this https://twitter.com/caveman444

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:49:07 2019 No.13104033 >>13103766 I meant to say smoke weed. It'll help it click.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 15:56:23 2019 No.13104071 File: 2.02 MB, 4000x2691, voyage of life old age.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098051 Bumping this based thread. Will read entirely later.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 16:09:17 2019 No.13104144 >>13104071 I've seen that series of paintings in person at the national gallery in Washington DC, great stuff

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 16:39:45 2019 No.13104322 >>13100186 Jan Hus too

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 17:14:12 2019 No.13104508 >>13098051 question for godhead anons is Buddhism okay if the practitioner doesn't completely deny the self? What if the practitioner neither denies nor accepts the self?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 17:44:26 2019 No.13104683 >>13104508 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolpopa_Sherab_Gyaltsen#teachings

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 17:46:21 2019 No.13104697 >>13104508 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolpopa_Sherab_Gyaltsen#teachings

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 17:58:12 2019 No.13104766 >>13101421 Read some of these books. >>13100186

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:03:53 2019 No.13104794 File: 152 KB, 500x709, hermes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098051 What do people know about this guy/demigod?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:06:55 2019 No.13104814 >>13098051 >Hyperborean place that didnt exist?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:23:15 2019 No.13104904 >>13098404 >tfw no trad wife fuck modernism, fuck technology and fuck the jews

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:37:12 2019 No.13104990 Esotericists are misled people with superiority complexes but they ultimately have good intentions. Be a good person and pray for faith and enlightenment. Question your sources and interpretations.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:38:14 2019 No.13104999 >>13104990 based

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:43:51 2019 No.13105031 >>13104999 Thanks I went down the "secret teachings" path after years of atheism but turned back to God. Spiritualism isn't as complicated as we lead ourselves to believe. If you want knowledge ask God first not puffed-up know-it-alls.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:49:54 2019 No.13105069 >>13105031 I think what you said applies to all religions and spiritual paths desu

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:49:58 2019 No.13105070 >>13098051 give us a reading list to understand you

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:52:46 2019 No.13105091 >>13105070 yea this needs a chart

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 18:53:50 2019 No.13105097 File: 1.94 MB, 1144x1576, counter tradition.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13105070

Anonymous Sun May 12 18:55:39 2019 No.13105105
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>>13098068
>When one conducts themselves in an exceedingly depraved way they are given one last chance in the form of rebirth as a black person before they lose human status and are reborn as animals.

I would just like to shake your hand sir
Thank you for an incredible read
Based and finished with pills

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:01:19 2019 No.13105139 File: 465 KB, 1593x1600, 6F128D63-72B2-4F87-9581-CF96AD9D907F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13100186 MEIN NEGGER I knew you were out there. Safe travels and godspeed to you Strength and Honor I love you

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:05:29 2019 No.13105167 File: 108 KB, 640x845, 551F8B4A-97ED-4D71-AE07-BA5C6A6EA9AE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13103415 >lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:07:50 2019 No.13105181 File: 26 KB, 513x513, 0FBA3264-D401-403E-93E6-6A12BFC2990D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13101982 HOLY FUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKK TOO BASED ANON

Anonymous Sun May 12 19:12:04 2019 No.13105204

>>13105097
>>13105070
That chart has some books that are very pertinent and some that are very much not. If you read Guenon and Evola you will pretty much get everything OP describes. The screwtape letters and The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, among others in that chart, have absolutely nothing to do with esoterism in a positive or neutral sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:27:40 2019 No.13105287 >>13098051 Make a religion out of this. Unite the world.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:31:45 2019 No.13105316 File: 38 KB, 400x400, maria-orsic_3fuunP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13105287 Anon, I have bad news for you...

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:37:35 2019 No.13105344 File: 49 KB, 600x583, 1556478484564.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13105316 tfw no wiki page

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:42:08 2019 No.13105367 >>13105316 Whoa...

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 19:42:47 2019 No.13105369 >>13105344 merely a coincidence

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 20:27:45 2019 No.13105580 File: 21 KB, 330x574, 6b68f84c63c4bcd8d4e600ed593650cb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13103255 >Yes retard. My great great grandpa fought one and then married it. Are you Donkey's great great grandson?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 20:34:48 2019 No.13105613 >>13105316 >>13105369 Is really weird there's no reference of her in wikipedia. Then again there isn't a single document that proves either her existence or that photo to begin with so..

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 20:39:50 2019 No.13105635 File: 75 KB, 1024x1001, 1537057537410.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13105613 It's possible she's a meme, but the Thule society was a real-world attempt at institutionalizing the Hyperborean worldview.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 20:52:43 2019 No.13105692 >>13098051 >no wojak image attached

Anonymous Sun May 12 21:23:42 2019 No.13105819
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Since this thread has a lot of classical music and talks about ancient philosophy, I want to discuss the Pythagorean/Platonic idea of music/harmony as the foundation of the modern life.
Many times in the Republic and elsewhere Plato emphasizes certain types of music and poetry as providing the correct emotional constitution to the guardians. The music is inspiring and melodic rather than aggressive and full of fanfare.
It seems necessary that if you put any stock in their views on this that you must view most modern music, especially hip-hop and the like, as vile and disgusting. It does not harmonize or inspire the soul, but transports it from one emotion to the next and encourages it to indulge in its appetitive desires. Just wanted to see what others think.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 21:24:47 2019 No.13105823 >>13105819 *as the foundation of the philosophical life.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 21:32:06 2019 No.13105844 >>13105819 >you must view most modern music, especially hip-hop and the like, as vile and disgusting https://youtu.be/on-BENZ-DgE

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 22:53:34 2019 No.13106119 >>13105070 see >>13100186

>>	Anonymous Sun May 12 23:11:30 2019 No.13106180 >>13104904 HOLY BASED

Anonymous Sun May 12 23:16:09 2019 No.13106192

>>13098068
>When one conducts themselves in an exceedingly depraved way they are given one last chance in the form of rebirth as a black person before they lose human status and are reborn as animals.

I can never tell when /lit/ is serious or larping, so I'll just take it sincerely. How does this view point resolve itself with the high belief in religion and spirituality found in African and black majority countries?

For example, I'm working in Jamaica and it has the highest density of churches per square mile in the world. Most women I know go to church nearly every day, and will read scripture in their free time. And this isn't even mentioning their very traditionalist views.

Anonymous Mon May 13 02:27:35 2019 No.13106791

>>13106192
>How does this view point resolve itself with the high belief in religion and spirituality found in African and black majority countries?
regression towards the mean, people who are near the bottom have a stronger psychic inclination to rise up while out of those who are near the top comparatively few fully succeed and many are waylaid by the meaningless baubles and pleasures available. This balancing influence is what helps prevent all of mankind from degenerating into the status of animals.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 02:29:27 2019 No.13106800 >>13101540 Amazing argument >>13104766 A huge pile of religious texts from unrelated traditions and esoterica? How about something specific, numnuts. I've read the gospels and Plato, there's nothing about arctic civilisations in them.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 02:34:01 2019 No.13106812 >>13098055 You lost me at the "christianity is zorostrianism"

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 02:45:19 2019 No.13106843 >>13098841 Explain how the current cold war will be reconciled to enforce worldwide technotyranny. Western leftists hate China because of muh uyghurs

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 02:48:18 2019 No.13106852 >>13105819 >you must view most modern music, especially hip-hop and the like, as vile and disgusting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5xq2EqjeI

Anonymous Mon May 13 04:04:44 2019 No.13106997
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>>13105819
David Hykes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4pVASwvvMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8HDHZA27PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPZ5YwZw0SQ

It's not about harmonics. Popular music is mostly business, not art. There are exceptions, but most of the stuff we listen to now will be forgotten in a few generations and only be of interest for a few historians and audiophiles of the future. Listening to popular music is like listening to a snapshot of a certain culture in time. On the other hand, we are probably the first generations lucky enough to be able to select almost freely from the best works of the last 1000 years, even from vastly differing cultures, but it is not surprising that few people do this. Listening to music you were not born into has to be learned and it takes time and some effort.

Anonymous Mon May 13 04:19:41 2019 No.13107027
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>>13106997
For instance, here is a set of secular medieval music. I dare say, some people would not even know what this is. Almost forgotten after just 600 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUtXo1sTPDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lw8nH6dQIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9mEpG_6fso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UvesKl8_W8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlipG4F3WeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ti59NdbG1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZPHCikPJqs

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 05:12:37 2019 No.13107118 File: 131 KB, 960x720, 1528683946704.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13105580 Oh god it all makes sense now...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 05:14:21 2019 No.13107125 File: 3.65 MB, 3004x2148, The Young Hitlerist Phenomena.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13100186 >>13105139 >No Serrano

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 05:43:21 2019 No.13107193 >>13098536 >tripping on Soma What's supposed to be the effect? Is it akin to those Ayahuasca rituals that are all the rage at the moment?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 05:56:20 2019 No.13107229 >>13107193 You run really fast. Critical condition for enlightenment.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 08:34:22 2019 No.13107666 >>13107193 It's been posited that psilocybin mushrooms were originally used, which was concur with a number of passages such as those about becoming fearless

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 08:49:38 2019 No.13107711 >>13106791 So we should look to black people for inspiration?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 08:53:10 2019 No.13107718 >>13098525 modern research has placed the original PIE speakers in Ukraine, which, at the tail end of the last ice age, certainly could be considered hyperborean both in climate and in geographic location

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 09:12:44 2019 No.13107782 >>13098051 >>13098055 >>13098062 >>13098068 >hinduism is good >christianity bad That's the exact same thing I say when I shit in the streets and don't wipe.

Anonymous Mon May 13 09:17:49 2019 No.13107793
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>>13098715
>everything I interpret in a backwards, pseudo racial/cultural hyperbole, especially when it has nothing to do with acting out authentic things, isn't muh Larping.
People like OP are literal cancer.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 11:35:15 2019 No.13108215 >>13101421 >Do you have a single fact or argument to back this up? First sentence immediately betrays complete lack of spiritual/transcendental understanding. Take psychedelics then come back for serious discussion

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 11:51:50 2019 No.13108292 File: 429 KB, 548x412, heh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13108215 >Take psychedelics >for serious discussion

Anonymous Mon May 13 12:02:19 2019 No.13108336

>>13098051
incredibly based post. we are just at the very beginning of the period of degeneration that commenced immediately following WWII. the centuries preceding the 20th prepped the world as a whole for the lowest and basest system of spiritual oppression and ignorance, driven by a few vanguards - see: the enlightenment, the rights of man, French revolution, rise of atheism, industrialism, rise of capitalism, internationalism, rise of technology, worship of technology etc.

up until the mid 20th century this was still largely confined to upper-class intellectuals, while populations as a whole remained largely linked to faith, and lived generally wholesome lives (of course, keeping in mind that we have been in a state of gradual degeneration ever since the Fall); now the USA has essentially monopolized global influence and, from the basis of a profoundly corrupt and inhumane 'country', the population of which is, at all levels, corrupted, is rapidly expanding its satanic influence and pushing it everywhere else in the world. it's not gonna stop with europe. look at South Korea, which has been subject to extreme American influence for the past 50 or so years.

capitalism, materialism, atheism, feminism, transexual ideology, deracination, corporatization (and so, dehumanization) of music and other forms of art, etc are only going to grow in places which have already been infected, and infect those which till now have been free of it

we're going to enter into a stage where the degeneracy theorized by small-minded but high-IQ intellectuals of the past few centuries is going to become real and universal, and, given the immense technological support it has, it's going to be here for a long fucking while. this is just the beginning

any sort of communal virtue or positive effort is dead. anything that you do that is sanctioned by society is just another contribution to the machine. the only thing intelligent, awake people can do is adopt an individualist ideology while understanding that individualism is only a temporary refuge from an utterly degenerate and degenerating society.

this means focus entirely on propagating your own lineage and instilling awareness in them of the truth. this is the ultimate goal. meanwhile, read as much as you can, find a way to be financially independent and stable, ritualize self-administration of psychedelics, do Jordan Peterson tier things, make sure to balance quiet intellectual activity with exercise of the body; the goal is to end up finding a decent woman (but but but all women are hoes or SJWs - nah; get involved in Christian circles; that's the number one way to find quality women; once a woman is in love with you, assuming you are a high-quality male, it's not at all difficult to introduce them to the Truth), get married, and have at least 3 children with her (5 is ideal). Provide your children with a true and high-quality education and they will turn out fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 12:27:43 2019 No.13108459 >>13108336 WWII wasn't started by degeneracy but by a global financial crisis temporarly shutting down trades between the biggest powers of the world and the 40% peasants of germany clamoring for protectionism.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 12:36:12 2019 No.13108507 File: 796 KB, 1920x1080, 1526218710848.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13108459 >WWII wasn't started by a mad fuck who wanted world domination >>13108336 >look mom, I'm Fredy Nitzche

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 12:38:59 2019 No.13108519 File: 178 KB, 515x640, BFD59011-E8B3-46D4-8928-1737148E0215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Praise be unto OP

Anonymous Mon May 13 15:31:23 2019 No.13109376

>>13107782
The post did not imply that at all. One of the points was that Jesus was a beneficent teacher sent to redeem the Jews who had fallen into spiritual stagnancy.

>>13108336
>find a way to be financially independent and stable
Extremely hard to do. Everything nowadays presupposes that you buy into the globalist hyper-technological machine. There's hardly any way out while still functioning in the world.

Anonymous Mon May 13 15:46:10 2019 No.13109452
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>>13108336
>any sort of communal virtue or positive effort is dead. anything that you do that is sanctioned by society is just another contribution to the machine. the only thing intelligent, awake people can do is adopt an individualist ideology while understanding that individualism is only a temporary refuge from an utterly degenerate and degenerating society.
weird, this is exactly the conclusion i keep coming to.
>tfw want to get involved in my local community and stop being a neet
>go outside
>everyone is a zombie drone of the leftist machine
>"conservatives" are pretty much spineless, like the left, but with added laissez faire ideology
>someone slightly woke is just repeating what he heard peterson say on youtube
>dont feel like faking it and interacting with them
>only choice is to return to this fucking anime website because at least there is some originality in thought thats outside the "matrix"
its a little bit sad that a fucking website is where you get posts like OP's. You would expect it to be in academia or something. Clown world i guess. honk honk

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 15:48:04 2019 No.13109461 >>13109452 website like this one*

Anonymous Mon May 13 16:23:03 2019 No.13109680

>>13098051
>>13098051
What about fossils which date back to tens of thousands of years and what about the dinosaurs which were eviscerated by asteroids? There is real evidence showing the existence of these things but you ignore them for non existent spiritual beliefs to which you have no solid proof of bring true

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 17:42:59 2019 No.13110152 >>13108507 Retard

Anonymous Mon May 13 18:26:13 2019 No.13110371

>>13109452
>You would expect it to be in academia or something. Clown world i guess.
This was a disturbing blackpill in college. The students would parrot whatever you wanted them to in order to receive that diploma. Professors wanted tenure and feared controversy. Academia was PAINFULLY conformist. Heard way more noggin joggin ideas working blue collar.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:02:59 2019 No.13110573 >>13109680 >fossils >spiritual beliefs

Anonymous Mon May 13 19:07:56 2019 No.13110593
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>>13098051
Any thoughts on the crucifixion of jesus (jupiteran figure that is son of a saturnic figure, can be compared to thor and odin, zeus and cronus) being a kabbalah symbol of the unification of opposites, da'at (the thing the cross represents) is associated with the sun sephiroth which correlates to the heart chakra when the tree of life is overlayed on a human, the symbol of the heart chakra is the star of david a symbol of opposites. Jesus is just a personification of the age of pisces (fish symbolism, 153 fish caught = 153 being the vesica pisces, vessel of the fish). 9/11 ritual destruction of pillars of duality and the building of the one world trade building. Trannies forced attempt at escape from duality. IXXI roman numerals resemble the rune for true love and binding.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:22:36 2019 No.13110679 File: 90 KB, 636x900, horns-of-Moses.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13110593 Moses has horns because he is the figure of the age of the ram. Notice how jews still use rams horns for certain religious events

Anonymous Mon May 13 19:25:20 2019 No.13110695

>>13110593
I'm interested in esoterism, but I gotta say, this just sounds like one step away from schizo ranting to me. Where did you learn such things and can you provide more detail on why 9/11 has occult significance and how "Trannies are forcing an attempt to escape from duality"

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:27:37 2019 No.13110706 File: 17 KB, 735x439, sigil of the spirit of jupiter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13110679 Strangely the sigil of the spirit of jupiter resembles the vril symbol

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:29:00 2019 No.13110716 >>13110695 listen to your heart anon do you think it's schizo rambling or genuine spiritual insight?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:35:13 2019 No.13110750 >>13110716 The first. That's why I just said what I did and my reason for inquiring in the first place.

Anonymous Mon May 13 19:35:57 2019 No.13110755

>>13110695
I'm typing fast to get it out before the thread ends up closing, theres so many small details that you end up getting caught up in them though . Learned from comparing myths myself watching various youtube videos and lurking on here as well as looking into astro theology. Spent ages researching cant remember anymore where i learnt most of it. just connect the dots for example. Church candles find their origin as a substitute sacrifice to the saturnic god of rome.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:37:33 2019 No.13110762 >>13110716 It's not spiritual insight just what i've learned from researching kabbalah, the occult, astro theology etc

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:38:43 2019 No.13110771 File: 88 KB, 800x600, 1548353783888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13110755 Or you know, maybe they are just candles. Regardless, if you see them that way, is that a good thing in your eyes, or a bad thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:40:29 2019 No.13110778 >>13110762 Communist symbol hammer and sickle, saturns symbol is the sickle and scythe. Saturn god associated with time, death, harvest, limitation and the material. Lord of the rings

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:43:45 2019 No.13110792 >>13110778 Father god, father time,father Christmas, lord, odin etc. Fatherly figure that is old and bearded. Look at gnosticism, astro theology and the aristotlean cosmology

Anonymous Mon May 13 19:46:07 2019 No.13110803

>>13110771
Read the wiki page on the god saturn to start it mentions the candles if i remember right. also from wiki "The potential cruelty of Saturn was enhanced by his identification with Cronus, known for devouring his own children. He was thus used in translation when referring to gods from other cultures the Romans perceived as severe; he was equated with the Carthaginian god Baal Hammon, to whom children were sacrificed, and to Yahweh, whose Sabbath was referred to as Saturni dies, "Saturn's day," "

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:50:41 2019 No.13110829 >>13110771 Is worship of a god associated with human sacrifice, the same type of saturnic figure recognised by the people of the time as the god of the bible who also has his human son offered as a sacrifice good or bad you tell me?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:53:13 2019 No.13110840 >>13110829 I have no idea, that's why I am asking you. Don't flip the question.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:54:16 2019 No.13110844 >>13110829 Anyway i'm done now, i end up just just appearing mad to those who haven't researced the things i have that lead me to my current understanding.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:57:32 2019 No.13110858 >>13110840 The candles being a continuation of the worship of an older version of the god, Is that what you mean when you ask me if i see it as a good or bad thing? i dont really care to be honest.

Anonymous Mon May 13 19:57:42 2019 No.13110861

>>13110844
If you can't justify the basic points of your belief and have to resort to haphazard associations that could be done with literally any two things if you try hard enough, it is not particularly convincing. It doesn't seem you understand the immutable characteristic of traditional symbolism by your clear desire to shape any symbolic interpretations to your fancy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:58:54 2019 No.13110868 >>13110858 >I don't really care to be honest No need to be so defensive. Not every post on here is a personal attack trying to trap you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 19:59:14 2019 No.13110870 >>13110840 It was a rhetorical one, most people agree human sacrifice is bad do they not?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:00:27 2019 No.13110878 >>13110870 With some of the things posted in this thread, I would not be surprised if it wasn't considered bad under the right context.

Anonymous Mon May 13 20:05:44 2019 No.13110899

>>13110868
Not defensive, just not that interested. not personal either. I don't mind either way if you take or leave what i say. I don't care about spreading "the truth" only putting out enough info so hopefully i can have a conversation with someone who already knows and from who i may be able to learn something that interests me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:06:47 2019 No.13110905 >>13110878 What do you mean?

Anonymous Mon May 13 20:08:48 2019 No.13110911

What do you reckon would be the best language to study for the reception of traditional religious knowledge? Arabic, Sanskrit, Greek and Hebrew all seem strong contenders. Persian Latin and Chinese as well. I'd like to study something but not really sure which language to start

Anonymous Mon May 13 20:19:20 2019 No.13110951

Traditionalists hate post-modernisms, but I do think that the works of theorists such as Michel Foucault and Jean-François Lyotard could be instrumentalized by them.

You see, the post-modern project involved replacing grand, universal narratives with small, local narratives. Sure, their vision of that project was revolutionary, to substitute bourgeois liberalism with some kind of radical emancipatory politics, but there is no reason why the "local narrative" shouldn't be about Hyperborean Aryans and Atlantis.

If someone attack you because of your "proofs" just steal from their book to attack the very foundation of inquiry and knowledge, and deny the possibility of reason ungrounded on tradition. It worked for them, why couldn't it work for us?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:22:53 2019 No.13110972 >>13110878 Are you saying you agree with human sacrifice or that you think some of the other posters in this thread might approve of it?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:24:49 2019 No.13110979 >>13098051 someone redpill me on Agartha and Shambhala

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:27:12 2019 No.13110988 >>13110972 Some other poster in the thread. Do you not have any reading comprehension?

Anonymous Mon May 13 20:28:11 2019 No.13110990

>>13110951
Spengler already did this 50 years before Foucault was relevant. The postmodern project was only ever one big filibuster: keep your enemy jumping through meaningless hoops while you engage in power-grabbing and act as an agent of entropy. Don't expect these people to bat an eye if you try to hold them to their own standards. It was never about that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:34:35 2019 No.13111033 >>13110988 Not when i get carried away writing and work myself up trying to write before a thread closes down and i hype myself up because i find it fascinating. anyway i'm leaving now. have a good day

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:52:56 2019 No.13111116 File: 151 KB, 1625x585, 0813a4fd-3e1b-45ac-8647-76c5a0920eb3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Interesting...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 20:58:42 2019 No.13111137 >>13110899 >letting interest dictate what you do or dont learn about so this is why these threads exist. you guys will shoot up ideology like heroin as long as it interests you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 21:06:16 2019 No.13111162 >>13101421 >worldwide flood, for which there is no geological evidence Not a scholar of Joe Rogan I see. Good luck to you sir on your quest for evidence and truth

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 21:08:40 2019 No.13111170 >>13111137 >you guys will shoot up ideology like heroin as long as it interests you. ive never seen so concise a description of my literary activity

Anonymous Mon May 13 21:15:37 2019 No.13111197

>>13110695
>Trannies are forcing an attempt to escape from duality
Not the anon you're asking but: masculine and feminine are some of the most clear examples of duality found throughout nature and history. Trannies are in revolt against this natural duality as they A. reject their birth sex which they can never change (only a crude surface mockery) B. urge people to believe there are more than two genders or that gender does not exist. Sometimes their discourse even asserts that sex does not exist (biologically)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 21:48:20 2019 No.13111349 >>13110899 t. Decadent Socratic This is an Atalntean Hyperborean wisdom thread leave asap

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 22:02:55 2019 No.13111427 Is there anything of value in this thread, or is it literally all just schizo posting?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 22:04:59 2019 No.13111439 >>13111137 How do you decide what to learn?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 22:05:10 2019 No.13111442 File: 24 KB, 585x441, 1537059895234.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13111427 idk u tellme

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 22:12:14 2019 No.13111487 >>13111442 I have no clue. Instinctively seems like bs but at the same time I feel like there must be better ways to achieve transcendence than just meditating all the time

Anonymous Mon May 13 22:13:38 2019 No.13111495

>>13111487
transcendence is probably an enormous meme. Throughout history you have people who because of some quirk of brain chemistry end up experiencing subjective states of bliss and feeling love and peace towards everyone and then this attracts followers who can never achieve the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 13 22:16:51 2019 No.13111510 File: 244 KB, 1200x936, C20ahFIUoAAT-S4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13111487 try meditating on peaks

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 00:57:39 2019 No.13112130 >>13110911 You'll end up studying them all anyways. But i suggest you start with sanskrit or greek since you get access to more literature

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 01:13:25 2019 No.13112177 >>13111510 One of his better books.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 02:19:01 2019 No.13112367 >>13101862 because at the end of the day we hate sandniggers

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 02:25:43 2019 No.13112384 >>13108292 Your hearth is microcosmic. Begone.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 03:49:13 2019 No.13112607 >>13098051 >>13098055 >>13098062 >>13098062 >>13098068 WE WUZ

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 05:27:43 2019 No.13112824 >>13112384 You begone. Fucking degenerate retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 05:44:01 2019 No.13112870 >>13112607 >WE ARE ftfy monkey >>13112824 If You don't understand the importance of altered states of consciousness in the development of culture, You're hopeless.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 07:34:45 2019 No.13113217 File: 2.73 MB, 240x135, 1532917443038.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13112870 >society is built on drugs and shit yo >drugs are important dude >bro take some drugs >you'll see shit and be wise bro Thanks, Joe Rogan. Now I get it.

Anonymous Tue May 14 07:55:27 2019 No.13113273

>>13109376
>Extremely hard to do.
Depends on where you live. Outside of the US it's not at all difficult, especially in Europe. If you live in the US, I recommend either moving back to the country from which your ancestors came, attempting to gain citizenship (if you are not already a dual-citizen), and working as a high school English teacher (or whatever the equivalent is). If you would like to stay in the US or if it is your only option, becoming a high school teacher is still the best course. Do you get paid a lot? No, but if welfare queens and other degenerates with next to no income can have 3+ children, you can as well. Plus working as a teacher is really one of the only ways that you can contribute anything positive to people outside of your direct family, although of course you will be restricted by the school. Still, high school teachers in the US have a relatively great deal of freedom proportioned to them (relative to Europe). You also get public employee benefits that make it easier to raise children.

>only choice is to return to this fucking anime website because at least there is some originality in thought thats outside the "matrix"

you need to get out of NEEThood. it's difficult I know, especially given the lack of virtuous communal institutions, etc. but spending all day and all night on the internet is toxic (even more toxic that working at a corporation or even working as a waiter or at a fast food restaurant or something), even if it's on /lit/ instead of buzzfeed or instagram. you have no other option but to find work, because without work you won't be able to attract a potential wife, and without a wife you won't be able to start a family, which is really your only chance of creating a virtuous community and attaining some degree of satisfaction and happiness

Anonymous Tue May 14 07:59:24 2019 No.13113287

>>13110695
you're reading comments from bored anons on a message board. if you're looking for deeper substance or explanations you're going to have to do a lot of actual reading and learning and experiencing before casual comments appear to you more helpful and insightful than 'schizo rambling'. read works on comparative mythology, religion, history, etc, and try psychedelics and things will make more sense to you, even things that sound absolutely bizarre and incomprehensible like the comment; not that you'll literally agree with everything, just that you'll understand where it's coming from

Anonymous Tue May 14 08:07:07 2019 No.13113322

>>13111495
you can gain, at least, an understanding that such a thing exists (transcendence) - that there is something beyond the sober, 'normal' realm of waking life by properly taking psychedelics. it's not that difficult (although, if you disrespect or abuse the substances you will be punished and learn nothing of use).

before I tried them i was in the same boat. my whole life, other than childhood, was passed in that dull, boring plane of existence (like the personality 1 that Jung describes). within two experiences with psychedelics (I'd taken them out of curiosity, expecting little to nothing other than elephant hallucinations or whatever) I was awakened and I've been at least aware of this other realm, more real than this one, ever since.

and i'm not mckenna-tier hippy or retard - i scored in the top percentile on standardized tests all my life, and even scored a 180 on the LSAT, and immediately after taking psychs i realized how shallow and pathetic my former shadows of understanding had been. not saying to brag or to LARP but just so that u understand that mushrooms, LSD, etc aren't memes

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 08:09:11 2019 No.13113328 >>13113217 Wow. You litteraly have no argument but ad hominem and strawman. What an unfortunate little creature.

Anonymous Tue May 14 10:10:28 2019 No.13113721

>>13113273
>No, but if welfare queens and other degenerates with next to no income can have 3+ children, you can as well.
Good post, but on this I disagree. White middle class families can barely have children anymore because Sheniqua is taking all the money for herself and her chillens. We're funding our own replacement.

Anonymous Tue May 14 10:10:29 2019 No.13113722

>>13113322
this, psychedelics are not the end in themselves and ultimately pale in comparison to genuine spiritual/mystic states or experiences one has when sober as a result of introspection/meditation/mantra use etc but they can still be beneficial aids or tools when used properly

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 10:14:54 2019 No.13113746 >>13101420 Dumb reply. I got backing by the 4 gospels as well as abrahams command in the OT on idolatry. Try not being a faggot and you might avert hellfire.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 10:22:43 2019 No.13113782 >>13107711 I think the correct term is "niggers" good sir.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 10:36:06 2019 No.13113837 >>13113721 The US black population has been around 13% for decades (due to the planned parenthood eugenics program.) Nor does welfare have a check box for race, as the white mormon polygamist 2nd+ wives are all on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 10:36:16 2019 No.13113838 >>13107711 the writings and acts of realized saints, metaphysical savants, religious philosophers, esotericists etc are typically much more valuable and inspiring than muh black spirituality tbqh

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Anonymous Tue May 14 10:54:06 2019 No.13113919

>>13113328
>drugs will show you the way dude
>bro you have no argument man
>you're ad homineming man
>you can't strawman me man
I have an argument.
Every single theologian worth a damn across Christian history didn't need squat for drugs.
Meanwhile degenerate shamans and druids across centuries who took every high they could didn't even manage to invent proper fucking writing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 10:55:14 2019 No.13113924 >>13113906 Why would anyone need stale pasta from a raving lunatic? Go to pol and you'll find even crazier shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 11:02:19 2019 No.13113961 >>13113924 Cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 11:37:11 2019 No.13114107 >>13113906 Nevermind that other fool. Saved.

Anonymous Tue May 14 11:57:20 2019 No.13114215
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>>13098068
>When one conducts themselves in an exceedingly depraved way they are given one last chance in the form of rebirth as a black person before they lose human status and are reborn as animals.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 12:46:52 2019 No.13114416 >>13103415 posted by a faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 12:59:22 2019 No.13114475 >>13113961 I agree. OP is very cringe and it is sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 13:18:15 2019 No.13114564 >ITT: massive cope by discord trannies, marxists, deleuzefag and jews

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 14:45:49 2019 No.13115013 >>13111510 i could do it but then people will just call me a failure

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 14:52:15 2019 No.13115046 >>13101982 >white men are not spiritually niggerlicious

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 15:13:32 2019 No.13115159 >>13115046 crime rates indicate otherwise kiddo >ye shall know them by their fruits

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 15:19:29 2019 No.13115195 >/x/ tier thread

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 15:52:53 2019 No.13115390 >>13114564 Based and redpilled, along with op

Anonymous Tue May 14 16:36:12 2019 No.13115619
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This thread is very fascinating, and some of the ideas ITT speak to me on thoughts that have troubled me for a long time, as well as echo ideas and conclusions I've come to organically over time. Maybe its all a coincidence, but something tells me that its worth investigating, even if its just interesting. I've taken note of this thread and I'm going to try to get my hands on the literature mentioned here.
One thing I have to say is an issue, a lot of you anons who are espousing this stuff don't seem to be doing good on the apologetics side, save OP and some of the initial posters. I'm not saying you ought to spoonfeed people, because that is dangerous and leads to degeneration of ideas, but perhaps think of ways your ideas can be expressed somewhat more plainly, and be open to answering questions.
Thanks for all the info, I'm definitely looking into this, although with some healthy skepticism.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 16:38:07 2019 No.13115628 >>13098051 >inahlesbuzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword Booooooorriiiiiiiiing

Anonymous Tue May 14 16:41:01 2019 No.13115648

>>13115619
reminder that this is what you're getting into:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy_(Blavatskian)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea#Hyperborea_in_modern_esoteric_thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Nazism

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 16:45:02 2019 No.13115670 >>13115648 So what?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 16:45:20 2019 No.13115674 >>13115670 just letting you know

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 16:47:22 2019 No.13115687 >>13098051 Can we just talk about the Finno-Korean Hyperwar instead. At least it's cool.

Anonymous Tue May 14 16:52:26 2019 No.13115720

>>13115648
I understand that. I actually agree with some aspects of these movements, even if I don't understand the movements themselves entirely. I may come to disagree with them the more I learn.
I believe there is absolute truth in the universe, but I have not been able to discern the nature of this truth on my own. I am consistently torn between one mode of thought and another. All good ideas contain some truth, and the best contain multiple truths. I am constantly in search of understanding, and this seems like a good thread to follow. I appreciate the warning nonetheless.
>>13115670
This is not me by the way, in case it was not clear.

Anonymous Tue May 14 17:04:42 2019 No.13115786

>>13115720
All I'll say is that I recommend reading the various traditions around the world critically and honestly instead of approaching every tradition from a perennial perspective, which will obviously warp your view. It's hard to avoid confirmation bias but do your best

Anonymous Tue May 14 17:15:41 2019 No.13115839

>>13115786
Again, I appreciate the warnings. Its my intention to look at things with as little bias as possible.
I've actually studied various world religions and cultures (some more extensively than others), with a specific interest in Christianity and beliefs rooted in Hindu tradition, as well as typically Western tradiotions, such as Greek. I had a Christian upbringing but eventually became an agnostic, yet despite this, I cannot entirely shake a desire for deeper meaning, and perhaps even religious reality, although i have as yet been able to convince myself of anything.
I heard about Gnosticism initially a few years ago, and immediately brushed it off as interesting but useless for further study. However, I have recently been interested in the renewal of Western paganism, as I am of European descent and for other reasons find this a positive turn of events. I have only just recently come to understand better the relation of Gnosticism to Euro paganism, and the link is interesting. Now I feel perhaps there is some merit in it. It reminds me of early Eastern-centric traditions which I studied both in school as well as personally.
Ultimately, I guess you could simply say I'm curious, but I also feel there is some significance here.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 17:19:36 2019 No.13115873 >>13115839 >I cannot entirely shake a desire for deeper meaning Hard to blame you - nihilistic materialism is such bullshit (and materialism itself involves a leap of faith just like any other metaphysics).

Anonymous Tue May 14 17:34:39 2019 No.13116010

>>13115839
Disregarding all the flak that Buddhism gets on this board, as a spiritual seeker I'd recommend pursuing what they call "stream-entry" through insight meditation, as a sort of basis from which you can pursue other advanced spiritual pursuits. It is said that once this point is reached, general meditation + spiritual practices (whether it be concentration meditation like the jhanas, or even stuff in the realm of magick as understood in the Western traditions) becomes incredibly intuitive and even fairly easy. It is definitely a measurable spiritual attainment that people dedicated enough can reach regularly (often in relatively short order), so I'd say it's a win-win - either the perennialists/gnostics are right, and Buddhism's 'not-self' is for the purpose of helping you find the "True Self" - in which case stream-entry would bring you that much closer to that goal, or, the people who say Buddhism is unique and different from the perennial beliefs are right - in which case you would have still made a profound spiritual attainment.
Check out Mahasi Sayadaw's The Manual of Insight or Practical Insight Meditation for the basics of this sort of thing, or if you want a less traditional, more secular/Westerner POV - Daniel Ingram's Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha (if you don't mind all the potential cons of such an approach).

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 17:44:04 2019 No.13116086 >>13113919 They didn't need drugs because they just ripped off platonism. Christianity has never produced an original or profound idea in all its history.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 21:14:28 2019 No.13117109 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 22:55:31 2019 No.13117592 bumping this B&R thread

>>	Anonymous Tue May 14 23:43:35 2019 No.13117805 >>13116010 >more secular/Westerner POV - Daniel Ingram's Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddh lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed May 15 06:50:51 2019 No.13119082 >>13098413 you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs

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