Suicide

[Anonymous No.13046976]

The ultimate act of rebellion or the ultimate act of cowardice?

[Anonymous No.13046978]

ya its based do it OP

[Anonymous No.13046984]

>>13046976
Depends on the circumstances and the individual

[Anonymous No.13046987]

Cowardice, the only exception, Yukio Mishima

[Anonymous No.13046986]

>>13046976
The ultimate act of autism.

[Anonymous No.13046988]

>>13046976
it's pathetic

[Anonymous No.13046990]

>>13046984
This. It can be either one and in some cases, both.

[Anonymous No.13046992]

>>13046987
you mean the guy that got laughed at because of his autism so he went to the back room and killed himself

[Anonymous No.13046994]

the ultimate cringe

[Anonymous No.13046997]

>>13046988
This. The act of rebellion lies in pursuing a glorious life and not succumbing to mediocrity and the eventual death.

[Anonymous No.13047001]

Weininger holds the title for the most cringe suicide

[Anonymous No.13047005]

>>13046976
If you're not doing it for a particular reason, a particular letdown, particular deficiency, but doing it as an affirmative act then it can be valid. Very few people with everything going for them, emotionally and psychologically, are going to make that choice as as a defiant act of self-affirmation and free will though.

[Anonymous No.13047011]

There needs to be a suicide service implemented to kill off useless men that are a burden on society. People who are too scared to do it themselves could pay the government to kill them. A step in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.13047014]

>>13047001
>October Weininger was found mortally wounded, having shot himself in the chest.
cringe, sounds like he hesitated last second

[Anonymous No.13047019]

>>13047005
Everything is meaningless, including suicide. It's not cowardly or rebellious. Who cares what people will think of you after you're long gone?

[Anonymous No.13047026]

>>13046992

[Anonymous No.13047045]

>>13047026
>His speech was intended to inspire a coup d'état to restore the power of the emperor. He succeeded only in irritating the soldiers, and was mocked and jeered. He finished his planned speech after a few minutes, returned to the commandant's office and performed seppuku. The assisting kaishakunin duty at the end of this ritual (to decapitate Mishima) had been assigned to Tatenokai member Masakatsu Morita, who was unable to properly perform the task. After three failed attempts at severing Mishima's head, he allowed another Tatenokai member, Hiroyasu Koga, to behead Mishima. Morita then knelt and stabbed himself in the abdomen and Koga again performed the kaishakunin duty

retard japanese coudent even finish the ritual fucking lmao

[Anonymous No.13047046]

>>13046976
>rebellion
>cowardice
Why does suicide have to relate to the outside world? There is only one really serious philosophical problem, and that's suicide. Every day we are forced to create meaning to keep us alive.

[Anonymous No.13047089]

>>13047045
Lmao, you win

[Anonymous No.13047382]

>>13047046
Goddammit, I actually read this from left to right and ya fuckin' got me, fucker.

[Anonymous No.13047389]

>>13047001
>>13047014
>he became proudly and enthusiastically a Protestant
this is way more cringe desu

[Anonymous No.13047403]

>>13047019
cioran was a pussy

[Anonymous No.13047459]

>>13046976
Part One, Page 50

[Anonymous No.13047547]

>>13047459
Oh, so shitting yourself is rebellion?

[Anonymous No.13047551]

>>13046984
No.
Your life belongs to God. Suicide is the one sin he will never forgive.

[Anonymous No.13047558]

>>13046976
It doesn't have to be rebellion or cowardice. It's the decision of an autonomous agent to end THEIR own life, because it is theirs. Anyone who says otherwise is a tyrant who wants to own other people.

[Anonymous No.13047559]

>>13047547
Anything is rebellion to the handicapped

[Anonymous No.13047561]

>>13047558
Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.13047564]

It depends on the motive

[Anonymous No.13047570]

>>13047558
Individualism and personal rights are unironically a myth

[Anonymous No.13047582]

>>13047559
Haha

[Anonymous No.13047584]

>>13047459
ummm sauce??

[Anonymous No.13047587]

>>13047570
>determinism and humanity lacking personal autonomy are unironically myths

uh oh, looks like now i win, fren :)

[Anonymous No.13047590]

>>13047584
A Walking Aphrodisiac, heres the pdf

https://mega.nz/#!9NggAa5I!6UHNJlaN-eIbv0T5ya9Pr7iKthr6nRc0J5XAh8KN8lY

[Anonymous No.13047598]

>>13046990
Based

>>13047551
Cringe

[Anonymous No.13047599]

>>13047587
I wasn't trying to be cheeky, just saying what I thought. I doubt this is going to turn into a rational discourse so I guess you have your opinions and I have mine, which is alright with me.

[Anonymous No.13047605]

>>13046976

The act itself is utterly meaningless, the intention is what makes it this or that.

[Anonymous No.13047614]

>>13047605
This

[Anonymous No.13047706]

Must it be one or the other? Some people have already left the planet on a mental level. For them, the gesture itself doesn't mean much.

[Anonymous No.13047760]

Depends. If you take the cancer of this world with you (eg. politicians, bankers, manipulating journalists) it's an act of rebellion and heroism. If you only take out yourself because you're a pussy who can't take it anymore, it's cowardice.

[Anonymous No.13047791]

>>13046988
tell that to someone who's committed suicide

[Anonymous No.13047836]

Would you kill yourself in this situation?

http://www.2arms1head.com/

[Anonymous No.13047865]

>>13046976
Not the ultimate anything. It's how the gene pool gets rid of waste.

[Anonymous No.13047866]

>>13047558
a*glo?

[Anonymous No.13047877]

>>13047865
Lol what a fag you are

[Anonymous No.13047885]

>>13047865
Yes, now kill yourself

[Anonymous No.13047899]

>>13046976
That would depend on the context.
I think 99% of the time it's based on a misunderstanding about death as being an actual escape route with implied survival in another form, be it in legend or an afterlife, and 1% of the time it's a substitute anaesthetic.

Althouh you could argue most impuslive suicides driven by emotion are also substitute anaesthetics, with the mind being so overwhelmed by feeling that the hereafter is never considered or imagined.

[Anonymous No.13047905]

>>13047605
To paraphrase NBC's Hannibal, death is a punctuation mark, not a sentence.

[Anonymous No.13047912]

>>13046976
both?

[Anonymous No.13047930]

>>13046976
If you're gonna kill yourself, at least kill the people you're mad at first.

[Anonymous No.13047936]

>>13047089
>that thinning hair

Is that the real reason he offed himself?

[Anonymous No.13047938]

>>13047936
He's a man not a lady, real men don't give a fuck about their hair.

[Anonymous No.13047951]

>>13046976
Read Camus.

[Anonymous No.13047957]

>>13047089
hes a man no doubt just took his life at the wrong time tbfh

[Anonymous No.13047960]

>>13046987
Love mishima but his suicide is extremely pathetic

[Anonymous No.13047967]

>>13047877
>>13047885
t. genetic waste.

[Anonymous No.13047970]

>>13046976
Absolute cowardice and brainletism, unless you're doing it to achieve some wider goal (kamikazee, soldier farmer, etc), then it's sacrifice and the peak of nobility.

[Anonymous No.13048027]

>>13046978
fpbp as usual
dont forget to stream it

[Anonymous No.13048036]

>>13046992
>>13047045
That didn't happen though its on film you dumb faggot
Nobody could hear what he said because of the sirens and all the noise

[Numen !!GgBWHLRiayD No.13048111]

Suicide that is enacted for the ultimate purpose of fulfilling a heroic task, and/or for preserving one's, or a collective's, honour, constitutes noble martyrdom.

Suicide that is enacted for the ultimate purpose of bringing finality to one's spiritual struggle/suffering, constitutes a waste of life, and ignoble contentedness with subordinating one's life to fallenness.

Suicide that is enacted for the ultimate purpose of bringing finality to one's permanently impaired psykhe, constitutes optimization of Life.

[Anonymous No.13048118]

>>13046976
Makes my mommy sad so I won't do it

[Anonymous No.13048119]

>>13047011
And then we can turn them into nutritious crackers to deal with food shortage.

[Anonymous No.13048181]

>>13048118
this thought has kept me alive for many years

[Anonymous No.13048188]

>>13048181
same

[Anonymous No.13048331]

>>13048118
>>13048181
>>13048188
me too mates. I'm probably gonna kms at 40

[Anonymous No.13048391]

>>13048118
Yes...

[Anonymous No.13048446]

>>13048118
this doesent concern me i plan on doing it when i move out for college

[Anonymous No.13048451]

>>13048446
Sure you are. All hail this edgy motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.13049425]

>where do you see yourself in five years?
>dead and rotting
why people keep asking this?
how can answer that without rising concern?
for all intents and purposes I surpassed my life expectancy. I was sure I would kill myself not long after I turned 25. Now I'm almost 30 and I find myself making the same question again...

[Anonymous No.13049578]

>>13048446
why do you say it so nonchalantly, makes me worried

[Anonymous No.13049595]

>>13046992
>>13047960

but he did sudoku because honor and that makes it okay

[Anonymous No.13049605]

Completely dependent on circumstance. Usually cowardness, but take the Buddhist monk in Vietnam for instance who set himself on fire as means of protest and caused an upheaval in the government as a result. It’s hard to look at that and say what he did was cowardly.

[Anonymous No.13049685]

>>13048451
>>13049578

some people have horrible mothers

[Anonymous No.13049908]

>>13047836
Yes

[Anonymous No.13050007]

>>13046992
came here to post this. mishifags btfo forever. a homosexual can't do anything right.