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The insidiousness of Jordan Peterson is that he simultaneously reduces timeless wisdom to self-help jargon and common sense advice while also affirming the righteousness and desirability of modernity. All of the problems that Peterson tackles are themselves just various manifestations of modernity itself, but nothing he talks or writes delves into this larger problem itself or how to deal with it. To the contrary, he takes religious texts that contain profound wisdom and teachings passed down through the ages and uses them as corporate bug-man self-help advice for kids who weren't raised properly. Peterson low-key pushes a mythos that western society in modernity is fundamentally just and a good thing and that aside from some irrational, stupid and greedy people that you have to deal with that everything is okay in principle.

This couldn't be more wrong. Since the emergence of civilization most of the them were united by religious traditions teaching metaphysical knowledge. All the problems of the western mentality and society stem from the loss of this. Christ, the Neoplatonists and to some extent the Hermetics and certain Greek mystery cults all had it too but the Church eventually became an encrusted coffin of doctrine with no accompanying realizations to be had hence why it failed to prevent modernity from arising in the west. Without being connected to any higher understanding in any significant amount among it's intellectual elite, western society has ever since the renaissance has in free fall accompanied by materialism, nihilism, scientism and various other forms of spiritual and cultural degeneration. Peterson affirms all this as good by buying into the faulty idea of the linear progression of civilization and humanity and by shilling it to his unaware fans.

Did you ever figure out why Peterson never seriously delves into eastern thought aside from a few boomer references to Buddhism and Confucius? It's because it totally destroys his worldview and offers completely different solutions to the ideas he address. Why did one of the largest and most impressive bodies of spiritual literature ever emerge out of society with a caste system? Because they are the right way to base a society. Most of the societal problems he address wouldn't even arise in a traditional eastern civilization pre-modernity but just reflect the state of the modern west. It's bad enough that he does all of this already but then he takes one of the few sources of timeless wisdom that are tradition in the west and reduces it to a source of bland common-sense life advice instead of a window to transcendental truths where all problems are resolved.

>> No.12975313

>All the problems of the western mentality and society stem from the loss of this.

You mean like the Enlightenment?

Unless you're referring to some sort of secular pantheism there is no transcendental or "objective" truth to be found in religion, at least not in the traditional meaning of the word. While Eastern philosophy is damning ideologically to many of his arguments, that's not really saying much as most of his ideas are highly subjective emotionally based claptrap.

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12976165

Philosophy has been self-help since Socrates and Psychology has been self-help since Nietzsche. Get the fuck over it.

>> No.12976177

godan penison is based and redpilled
it rlly good u shold read it

>> No.12976180

>>12976177
BASED AND REDPILLED

>> No.12976189

penison is a great father figore
like in that movie the goyfather
/based and redpilled

>> No.12976193

>>12976177
B A S E D
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>> No.12976274

>>12975270
tl;dr?

>> No.12976280

>>12976274
tldr: based and redpilled

>> No.12976892

Class-harmonising, crypto-fascist propaganda. Disregard.

Specifically, the problems of capitalism arises out of the notion of property, no lack of a common creed.