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12954188 No.12954188 [Reply] [Original]

Why are her books criticized for being nothing more than political soapbox rants, when Cervantes and Dostoevsky did the same thing?

>> No.12954194 [DELETED] 

>>12954188
Never read any of them but she's just a dumb bitch ain't she?

>> No.12954227

She talked shit about collectivism and that makes reddit mad! I'm mad!

>> No.12954245

>>12954188
Because she had a fucking 60 page soliloquy. That’s bad writing.

>> No.12954258

>>12954188
>Why are her books criticized for being nothing more than political soapbox rants,
Not the only problem with her books.
>when Cervantes and Dostoevsky did the same thing?
Kill yourself.

>> No.12954267

>>12954188
I've read 240 pages of Atlas Shrugged, and my impression is that shes a stain on the USA, and a stain on the human species. But to be fair, shes the worst of the greatest novelists.

>> No.12954276

>>12954188
They wrote well

>> No.12954287

a) she was a whore
b) dostoevsky and servantes actually knew how to write
c) that wasnt my kid she carrying

>> No.12954294

>>12954188
What should I read first by her ?

>> No.12954295

>>12954188
Stirner is better

>> No.12954296

>>12954188
Her books are puddle deep and speaks to those that want to be selfish assholes.

>> No.12954341

>>12954188
>I'm too pussy to say what I want to say, so I'm gonna have my character say it, and no - it's not going to be aphoristic in any way

also this slut's ideas fucked up america in ways you wouldn't believe

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>>12954188
I feel like she's unfairly malinged. It's a unique reading experience with satisfying aesthetics. It's just that you're reading not about people or places but instead about virtues and ideas in (somewhat) human form. The romance between these iron characters is of course ridiculous.

>> No.12954356

>my definition of great man is a moneymaker

>> No.12954384

>>12954294
The Fountainhead and you'll get the idea if you enjoy it move on to Atlas Shrugged, Anthem is a fan favorite. Just don't become a fucking objectivist.

>> No.12954387

>>12954188
i dont care what anyone says fountainhead was pretty good, the beginning atleast. The end got kinda stale

>> No.12954400

>>12954188
Cause they didn't?

>> No.12954402

>>12954384
No way in hell.
The mere sight of this woman causes me unmanageable laughter

>> No.12954489

>why do people like good writers more than bad writers

>> No.12954498

Because she is lit verison of rap music (gotta get that money boi!). If you like a shallow thinking mong givng you motivation just listen to trap

>> No.12954615

>>12954498
See this is both a shallow view of Rand and rap music. Ayn Rand was a refugee from the collectivist system of the Soviet Union and consequently she was enamoured with the individualist principles of the United States, and shocked by those who wanted to adopt the Soviet ideals. She admired people who went out into the world and by will alone changed it according to their individual vision. This expression of the self was her aesthetic ideal. Obviously that does not create a sophisticated philosophical system and attempting it was foolish but a lot of people have found positive inspiration in her work. Not me specifically, but I found her fiction interesting. People attacking her work have mostly fallen for the leftist propaganda construct that she is a foundational thinker of the conservative movement or whatever, which is just silly.

>> No.12954646

>>12954188
>Cervantes and Dostoevsky did the same thing

MODS

>> No.12954695

>>12954615
Black folks in contemporary USA have a much harder life and face more oppression that any white folks from Europe, and rap has more value as literature than Rand anyway

>> No.12954727

>>12954188
Because at least their works were decent and had a coherent statement instead of being garbage written by a two digit IQ emotionally stunted libertarian.
>>12954227
>Insinuating that 1. Reddit isn't actually full of liberals and 2. That Dostoevsky didn't also criticise socialism.

>> No.12954744

>>12954695
What you said is so stupid that it forces me to consider it bait and not respond.

>> No.12954933

>>12954744
he's not wrong :)

>> No.12954966

>>12954188
>Most people don't like capitalism
>Most people don't like narcissism
>Most people don't like ugly people
>Most people don't like america

>> No.12954985

>>12954933
Cops shooting unarmed blacks kills as many blacks as lighting = worse oppression than the holocaust or the Kulak persecution? Sounds totally reasonable.

>> No.12955025

>>12954966
>not liking capitalism

are you retarded or do you like poverty

>> No.12955032

>>12954188
Because her work go against, collectivist ideologies like socialism and nationalism, goes against religion(specialy the abrahamic ones), goes against the idea of self sacrifice as something noble and her world view is antithetical to the platonist one.

Most of /lit/ are socialists, religious or platofags so they would never consider her ideias.

>> No.12955053

>>12955025
most people shill for socialism or socialism light(social democracy)

>> No.12955067

>>12954985
That's supposed to say 'lightning', lighting propably kills a lot more.

>> No.12955093

>>12954188
Cervantes and Dostoevsky could actually write interesting soapboxes.

>> No.12955107

>>12954985
those things aren't happening contemporaneously.

>> No.12955716

>>12954985
America has a bigger Gulag slave labor system then the USSR or Nazi Germany ever dreamt of.

>> No.12955984

>>12955716
That again is such a stupid comment that I have to consider it bait.