Where will it end?

[Anonymous No.12902835]

3 million sold in just a year.
Will it surpass Harry Potter? Tolkien? The Bible? The Red Book? Or merely Jung?

[Anonymous No.12902848]

All his works, and his celebrity status will fade into nothingness in approx 5 years.

[Anonymous No.12902874]

>>12902848
I think it will happen quicker than that.
He will probably be shit at the Zizek debate.
Then try to publish another book to get back to his former level of fame, but fail horribly.
Calling it now.

[Anonymous No.12902884]

>>12902848
>in approx 5 years
3 months, and he knows it, he has no energy to produce new ideas and his stuff is very repetitive

that's why he is milking $15 for people watching his Zizek debate, has to grab as much as he can while it lasts

[Anti-/lit/ !N4bnZoKwfU No.12902897]

>>12902874
He is working on a sequel to 12 Rules (which will have 12 more rules), out sometime this year.

[Anonymous No.12902936]

>>12902874
>>12902884

Yeah sure, I think him being an active media presence will probably run out much sooner than 5 years. But I would bet that 5 years is about how long it takes before his fanbase forgets he exists.

[Anonymous No.12902953]

>>12902936
5 years in internet time is an eternity, they'll have moved to the new shiny thing way before that, specially if he doesn't put out stuff that sounds different

he is not as bombastic as Zizek so he can't milk people by repeating the same jokes for 20 years

[Anonymous No.12902981]

>>12902835
> caring about pseuds
Stop bothering with this garbage. If an author has a blue checkmark on Twitter they're not worth listening to.

[Anonymous No.12902994]

>>12902848
No way. This is one of the major literary phenomenons of our time. Cannot sell 3 million books in a year and be forgotten.

[Anonymous No.12903011]

>>12902994
he won't be forgotten, but he will be irrelevant like someone like Dawkins or Sam Harris is today, it's just the last stage of internet nihilism

[Anonymous No.12903019]

>>12902981
>If an author has a blue checkmark on Twitter they're not worth listening to.
ahem

[Anonymous No.12903032]

>>12903011
Dawkins is still a respected and relevant figure, he's merely distanced himself from the whole "disproving theism" scene that he was previously a leader for.

[Anonymous No.12903035]

>>12903019
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.12903047]

>>12903032
because the scene is dead and nobody cares about atheism, if he tried to do his gimmick the audience would be full of anti-SJWs trying to milk Dawkins for their cause, not anybody actually interested in atheism
>>12903019
based arab

[Anonymous No.12903050]

>>12903032
Did he take the memes too seriously?

[Anonymous No.12903058]

>>12903047
>arab
100% Greco-Phoenecian

[Anonymous No.12903082]

>>12903047
Well the scene is only dead in the sense that him and Hitchens and the rest have basically killed off religion in any serious, rational aspect, with the majority of educated people only seeing religion as valuable in its socio-cultural dimension. He doesn't have to promote atheism anymore because he's already demoted religion from whatever position it previously occupied in the Western world.

[Anonymous No.12903090]

>>12902848
>>12902994
you all said the same in early 2017 but then it was "in a year".

[Anonymous No.12903094]

>>12903082
Based.

[Anonymous No.12903100]

>>12903082

>Implying that religion wasn't dying since the renaissance and that Dawkins killed God.

[Anonymous No.12903101]

>>12902994

Go to the best sellers lists on wikipedia from 1960 or other similar years, tell me how many you have heard of bud. Good rule of thumb is if it sells a ton of copies, it is trash.

[Anonymous No.12903113]

>>12903082
yes he did, but what he didn't know was that enlightened humanism was next on the guillotine, that's why he is irrelevant as a public intellectual after destroying religion

[Anonymous No.12903114]

>>12903019
His retarded tantrum about IQ has totally tarnished his credentials

[Anonymous No.12903117]

>>12902848
>>12902874
>>12902884
You guys cry out like angry boomers did when Justin Bieber put out "baby". The fact that you guys need to characterize JP as some fame-milking fraud and not somebody with a legitimate passion towards making a difference in what seems to be a downward spiraling social climate just to cope with your autistic hatred towards him is more pathetic than any numale who calls him their father figure.
Besides, Peterson is only popular because his message resonates with a lot of people who feel what he's saying is necessary. His fame will drop off when the social climate no longer needs him, and I don't think we'll see him kicking and screaming his way out the door.

[Anonymous No.12903121]

>>12903100
>>12903082
yes, it was basically beating a dead horse by digging the most retarded christians from US shitholes and parading them around, more of a victory tour than a battle desu

[Anonymous No.12903125]

>>12903117
Justin Bieber is literally a modern day Donnie Osmond. Oh you don't know who that is? Funny, nobody will know who Bieber is either.

[Anonymous No.12903130]

>>12903117
never said the guy didn't say some good things, but at the end of the day he is just a 90s progressive, and the 90s aren't coming back, hopefully some people pick up his message of personal responsibility, but doubt much else of the guy will survive the current times

[Anonymous No.12903136]

>>12903130
>>12903125
Have you guys even watched his biblical lecture series? Why does nobody ever talk about that and his Maps of Meaning content? His political messages are the least significant thing he has to offer but they're all anybody here ever mentions of him.

[Anonymous No.12903139]

>>12903125
Bieber is still putting out massive hits, he's regularly played on the radio (new songs all the time), and that's even ignoring
des
pa
cito

[Anonymous No.12903148]

>>12903125
>I SWEAR HELL BE IRRELEVANT SOON, J-JUST YOU WAIT
you're fucking autistic and an example of what I'm talking about

[Anonymous No.12903150]

>>12903139
He truly is a musical great.
https://youtu.be/7vj3EkJRO3M

[Anonymous No.12903151]

>>12902874
He gets destroyed in all debates and people still believe in he’s shit, Peterson and his followers are the epitome off “play chess with a pigeon” adage.

[Anonymous No.12903156]

>>12903151
name one example of a public debate where Peterson lost

[Anonymous No.12903158]

>>12903151
name 1 debate Zizek ever won

[Anonymous No.12903163]

>>12903148
>>12903139
I don't get what your argument even is honestly. Most people even relevant public figures fade with time, this is kind of the normal state of affairs with any past celebrity in any reasonable timeframe you pick aside from a very small set of timeless leaders and innovators. This is kind of my standard view of 99% of public figures, are you trying to argue this is incorrect?

Everyone becomes irrelevant when you zoom back.

[Anonymous No.12903172]

>>12903100
All true, but prior to the New Atheism movement there wasn't such a mainstream pushback against religious theology as enacted by those figureheads. Not that I'm an atheist myself, but it's clear that Dawkins and Hitchens really did a blow to the place of religion within modern Western culture. And to call Dawkins "irrelevant" and compare him to someone as unoriginal as JBP is just silly, when he's a well-respected biologist and ethologist, and was actually at the forefront of a unique modern cultural movement - unlike JBP, whose entire career consists in rehashing other individual's ideas, and who merely (and shrewdly) filled a modern subpopulation of internet users, and won't be remembered once these individuals have moved on from their need for his guidance.

>>12903094
Not sure what this means.

[Anonymous No.12903176]

>>12903032
>respected and relevant figure
Dude thanks , I don’t laughed this hard in years

[Anonymous No.12903193]

>>12903163
my point is that people on 4chan rubbing their sweaty hands together sucking their own dicks clinging in desperation to their hope that JP will turn out to be some fame-milking fraud who was never worth considering in the first place are autistic and they make the quality of the board worse with their screeching coping mechanisms.

[Anonymous No.12903198]

>>12903082
this, right here.

[Anonymous No.12903207]

>>12903193
I don't understand why you think a self-help author is worthy of a single second of anyones thought? My issue with the whole thing is that you all sound like fucking women who obsess over Oprah-tier self-help crap. All of a sudden when some guy makes a right-of-center self-help book for men instead of women everyone goes fucking bonkers. Maybe it is a sign that only NEETs and kids without fathers post here, if you are a normal well rounded person with a normal upbringing he literally says nothing interesting whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.12903208]

>>12903156
>”without religion art can’t exists”
>”woman can’t run because of the size of their hips, woman in the olympics never exists”

[Anonymous No.12903209]

>>12903172
>And to call Dawkins "irrelevant" and compare him to someone as unoriginal as JBP is just silly, when he's a well-respected biologist and ethologist, and was actually at the forefront of a unique modern cultural movement
even if he did some well known work, the point is nobody would call in the current year Dawkins as a public intellectual to comment on anything. And if he did he would get obliterated.

[Anonymous No.12903211]

Why is he such a fucking kike?

He gets a university salary, private counselling consultation income, patreon (until recently) and millions of book sales.

Yet he still has the audacity to shill rugs and lobster themed sweaters to the masses. At least zizek is donating his debate income to charity. Fucking hack how does he get away with this?

[Anonymous No.12903212]

>>12903172
https://youtu.be/q9ffYlipLH8

[Anonymous No.12903215]

>>12903207
>if you are a normal well rounded person with a normal upbringing
no such thing in the modern world

[Anonymous No.12903216]

>>12903172
Is this a joke or you REALLY never put your feet outside?

[Anonymous No.12903222]

>>12903211
Don't forget giving high-priced speeches for the CFR.

[Anonymous No.12903226]

>>12903215
Spotted the NEET.

[Anonymous No.12903231]

>>12903211
to be fair, Zizek puts out 3 or 4 copy/pasted books every year

[Anonymous No.12903235]

>>12903226
i'm a STEM-bugman, thank you

[Anonymous No.12903260]

>>12903208
>without religion art can't exist
This was from the Dillahunty debate and its a completely reasonable claim if you put it in context. He was describing the fact that when an artist attempts to express meaning through art, the artist is aiming towards something transcendent as they produce whatever work they're doing, otherwise the work is propaganda and not art. You can make anything he says sound stupid if you spell it incorrectly and give him as little context as possible to make him sound absurd.
>”woman can’t run because of the size of their hips, woman in the olympics never exists”
Not sure when he said this but I doubt you're quoting him with any accuracy or fairness so whatever.

[Anonymous No.12903283]

>>12903211
Works for the UN doing questionable shit too

[Anonymous No.12903296]

>>12903209
"Obliterate" him in what, and by whom? His only opponents were religious leaders, and he's already pretty much won in that arena. He's not a JBP, like the earlier anon commented, which I felt was incorrect.

>>12903176
What exactly do you have against him?

>>12903216
What are your points regarding Dawkins?

[Anonymous No.12903305]

>>12903296
he would get obliterated by progressives obviously, he already kind of did with the whole Atheism+ and elevatorgate fiasco, those were the times when internet bullshit was irrelevant but fun...

[Anonymous No.12903313]

>>12903305
I haven't seen it then. I thought his only domain was against religious theologies, primarily the Abrahamic ones.

[Anonymous No.12903320]

>>12903313
it was, just like gamergate was just """about ethics in video-game journalism""", it was just that white nerds got evicted from the progressive coalition in 2011

[Anonymous No.12903343]

>>12903320
Sorry, I'm not familiar with Gamergate either. I was just saying that Dawkins is a step-up from JBP, and was generally successful for his personal objectives within culture.

[Anonymous No.12903350]

>>12903343
that depends, if you take Dawkins project as a purely atheist one he won, if you take it as an enlightenment humanist project he didn't do so well

[Anonymous No.12903368]

>>12903350
I'd agree with that. And personally the only footage I ever saw of him was for the atheistic crusade, and not something beyond that like another, similar figure might have been doing. But you're more familiar with his output than I am.

[Anonymous No.12903388]

juden peterstein

[Anonymous No.12903662]

>>12902835
It will find itself in a Goodwill, next to Bill O'Reily and Ann Coulter books on a shelf in between Tom Clancy and Danielle Steele paperbacks, donated by either a boomer or millennial.

[Anonymous No.12903774]

I was actually fine with them, although he brings nothing new to the table. His ideas aren't very bad in themselves and, despite promoting complacency and acquiescence to the present system, they also encouraged some good personal improvement in young people.
And the helplessness of his detractors on this board in the face of his lib platitudes didn't hurt things.

But now he's overstayed his welcome. He's reaching for every single penny, saying nothing new, and he doesn't even seem to possess the old energy and verve he did. There's gonna be one last good meme moment during the zizek debate and then it's time to say goodbye tothis fag.

[Anonymous No.12903828]

Imagine being so anally prolapsed that you’re dying for Jordan Peterson to fade into irrelevance. It doesn’t even matter what happens next because he completed his mission, he named the SJW. The era of “what is the problem with all these people saying I’m racist? Am I racist? I just want to do the right thing. I’ll think about it” has turned to “oh I can dismiss these faggots because they’re ideological and mad about nothing” which is something that would of happened with or without him. He just helped it along. The era of the SJW is already dying.

[Anonymous No.12903839]

>>12903828
> this is what rightoids actually believe
Get off of Reddit and /pol/, you sperg. Nobody is like this in real life.

[Anonymous No.12903856]

>>12903839
Except that literally everyone is. WAHH WAHHH JORDAN PETERSON CAME ON SHIT ON MY PARADE NOW ITS HARDER FOR ME TO SHIT ON WHITE PEOPLE WITH IMPUNITY WAHHH WAHHH

[Anonymous No.12903862]

>>12903856
"Literally everyone" on Reddit, and /pol/. Forget about cleaning your room for a minute and just walk outside.

[Anonymous No.12903892]

>>12903862
Are you seriously trying to claim that most people have adopted progressive values? The entire wave and popularity of intersectionality was basically a marketing move anyways. Its been a losing strategy for a long time and the very existence of Peterson is proof of that. If you’re one of the ones saying he’s going to fade into irrelevance it’s only in tandem of the irrelevance of sjwism. This is no great win of the right wing either but just most people being annoyed. Progressives in their private lives consistently express skepticism over things like #metoo or BLM everyday. I’m some ways it’s just social posturing and moralizing that replaced the moralizing of religion. “Male feminist rapes woman” it the “conservative man is secretly gay” of this decade. Eat the shit directly from my hairy asshole.

[Anonymous No.12903902]

>>12903892
College is insanely liberal/hard left, especially humanities. JPs arguments are hated on campus

[Anonymous No.12903908]

>>12903892
This culture war nonsense you're obsessed with exists mostly on the internet. That's why I'm telling you to go outside.

[Anonymous No.12903910]

>>12903828
>>12903892
Ya, hmmmmm, I don't know about that. If you haven't noticed the anti-SJWs have become so demoralized they have openly embraced clown culture. The war of position doesn't seem to be going to good

[Anonymous No.12903912]

>>12903902
I don't think most people on any given campus know who he even is.

[Anonymous No.12903915]

>>12903172
in retarded america, where you contribute

[Anonymous No.12903920]

i'll say it again, america is retarded and it's the leading world power.
sad world

[Anonymous No.12903949]

>>12903920
Think of it like this: you're staring at the world where everyone is acting like a joke and you're dumbfounded. That's only going to stop once you realize you're in a circus, and start dancing with everyone else. Put your silly hat on and move that body!

[Anonymous No.12903953]

>>12903011
Peterson is not a nihilist you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.12903958]

>>12903920
Maybe it isn't actually as retarded as you think.

[Anonymous No.12904008]

>>12903958
i know anon, also """america"""".
but is so weird, their mix of religion and all liberalism(like they call it)
and then they complain about the decline of the west world and all that, it's so strange and fascinating

[Anonymous No.12904020]

His popularity shows the current state of the american man

[Anonymous No.12904046]

>>12903172
>Dawkins and Hitchens really did a blow to the place of religion within modern Western culture.
are you american?

[Anonymous No.12904062]

Jordan Peterson's zoomer fans don't remember how red-fucking-hot Glenn Beck was in 2009

2019: Beck nails a 7:50 AM slot at CPAC pretending he didn't denounce Trump and write a pro-Black Lives Matter column for the NYT

And at least Glenn Beck was fun and knew how to make panicky right-wing horseshit at least slightly entertaining, even for liberals, even for leftists

Peterson is merely fucking depressing and vapid and caters purely to sexually repressed teenage boys. Where do you think he'll be in 2029? Seriously

[Anonymous No.12904096]

>>12903902
Colleges are a huge part of a gigantic bubble and even though people make appeals to authority less and less people are going to colleges. When the bubble collapses the government will either A) bail them out and further delegitimize them or B) stop subsidizing them and you can watch the entire humanities restructure and oust units like “white male anger”

>>12903908
You’d be right to a certain extent. You’re really making the same argument that I am, as common people don’t know or Even care about these issues. But how much they effect you depends largely on your geography as the western world and certainly America are a diaspora of people and cultures. Some communities got hit way harder than others (gamergate anyone?) and at any rate this is the premier issue people in intellectual circles are making academic or otherwise. Peterson is a product of this. Your point about getting outside of this sphere is well taken as it certainly isn’t the totality of our culture but it IS a sort of abnegation of what’s going on in culture.

>>12903910
LMFAO first off if you’re saying that Honkler is a resignation of /pol/ you don’t understand the meme. Furthermore to conflate the meme with pop culture on almost any level is insane. Do you think /pol/ talks for all “anti-sjws”? Ok bruh. Sure. As if literally every dad in America isn’t sick of this shit HAHAHA. The level of paranoia employed to think that the right is somehow sick of some culture war is showing the “side” you’re on and as I previously pointed out the love affair with this stuff is over and it’s less about any efforts of the right and really more a simple stroke of people being annoyed by progressives. But keep posting clown cars faggot.

[Anonymous No.12904108]

>>12904008
Well the thing is, America quite literally started off as an area of nearly untouched land except a few savages, compared to the history backing up every other area of the world, so they truly are a self-made country, climbing to the top over time through chance and a culture which evolved in a way that was conducive to being a superpower.

I guess it depends on what you are trying to maximize for, Norway may maximize for contentedness and happiness, but America, China, and Russia optimize for power. I feel like as an American I can relate to my Chinese friends much more than most other countries.

[Anonymous No.12904218]

>>12904108
i've read baudrillard
but china has an history that can cling (?) back

[Anonymous No.12904254]

>>12904096
>LMFAO first off if you’re saying that Honkler is a resignation of /pol/ you don’t understand the meme. Furthermore to conflate the meme with pop culture on almost any level is insane. Do you think /pol/ talks for all “anti-sjws”? Ok bruh. Sure. As if literally every dad in America isn’t sick of this shit HAHAHA. The level of paranoia employed to think that the right is somehow sick of some culture war is showing the “side” you’re on and as I previously pointed out the love affair with this stuff is over and it’s less about any efforts of the right and really more a simple stroke of people being annoyed by progressives. But keep posting clown cars fagg
imagine showing this paragraph to your great-great-great-grandfather and insisting you're doing this to "protect our people and our culture"

[Anonymous No.12904267]

>>12904096
>As if literally every dad in America isn’t sick of this shit HAHAHA

[Anonymous No.12904276]

>>12904096
dude yeah gamers are the most oppressed group on earth

[Anonymous No.12904308]

>>12903117
You know, that's all cool and all bro, but the guy was literally thinking about selling a 2000 dollar rug.

[Anonymous No.12904330]

>>12904254
Imagine coping this hard over a YouTube celebrities self help book, so hard that it makes you accuse clown meme posters of champions of the 4th Reich. This is why Clown World is a thing at all.

[Anonymous No.12904332]

>>12903211
>Yet he still has the audacity to shill rugs and lobster themed sweaters to the masses. At least zizek is donating his debate income to charity. Fucking hack how does he get away with this?
He sold the whole "it's not shameful to make money" Randian message to his followers. They eat it up of course, even as Peterson humiliates them by selling $2k rugs and epic lobster sweaters. It's fascinating really, disrespecting his audience like that, but they love it. The louder he shouts "give me your money" the more they love him.

[Anonymous No.12904344]

>>12904276
Actually gamers are fucking faggots but the way you have to use gamers, of all people, as a scapegoat for your shitty ideas just makes you an even bigger fag.

[Anonymous No.12904353]

>>12904332
Are you saying his audience are the only people that believe In “Randian” ideas? LMFAO. Yeah dude I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re saying this while wearing the newest Yeezys and paying for for online music. Libfags SEETHING at this self help boomer is the most entertaining thing I’ve ever seen.

[Anonymous No.12904361]

>>12904353
>Are you saying his audience are the only people that believe In “Randian” ideas?
No. Good post. Did Peterson-babies forget about the whole "so you're saying" meme already?

[Anonymous No.12904378]

>>12904361
Actually I said “are you saying” and you never actually clarified what you mean. I think you’re just buttmad this guy is making money but be my guest to explain your philosophical opposition to exploitive capitalism as if somehow it has anything to do with Rand. You’re probably one of those dudes that has to insert your basic bitch opinions into everything like about how Rand is naughty and you want to remind people that Peterson is “taking advantage” of his audience. Yeah a lot of the stuff he shills is gay, but just say that instead of trying to sound like some Roman philosopher about the morality of everything. Admit it, you just don’t like the lobsterman because he says no-no words to journalists and college students.

[Anonymous No.12904388]

>>12903125
Donny Osmond is cool, he sings the cool song fro Mulan.

[Anonymous No.12904394]

>>12903211
ya fuck him

[Anonymous No.12904403]

With shit like "Clean you'r room"...naw i'll pass.

[Anonymous No.12904410]

>>12903211
>Why is he such a fucking kike?
In America gaining any sort of popularity is merely an opportunity to cash out in the biggest way you can manage. He is pretty much taking the money and running at this point until his star implodes.

[Anonymous No.12904454]

>>12903211
>le evil capitalism

[Anonymous No.12904714]

>>12902835
>>12902897
>>12902994
>>12903114
>>12903148
>>12903151
>>12903156
>>12903207
>>12903305
>>12903388

Is THIS shit any good? I'm having a hard time deciding.

[Anonymous No.12905056]

>>12903207
https://youtu.be/f-wWBGo6a2w
Because his work extends beyond self-help you fucking dumbass

[Anonymous No.12905076]

>>12903094
GABBIDUW ID GAWWUD

[Anonymous No.12905114]

>>12902835

>3 million in a year

>BTFO by his archnemesis, a cartoon for little girls

[Anonymous No.12905241]

>>12903136
This

[Anonymous No.12905355]

I like Jordan Peterson

[Anonymous No.12905753]

>>12903828
that's true, the best part of Peterson is seeing progressives getting buttblasted about a literal self-help guru

[Anonymous No.12905770]

>>12903892
>in tandem of the irrelevance of sjwism
>irrelevance
hmm, sweaty, progressives literally control the mainstream media, government official positions, education, corporate HR, and can literally decide what gets banned from the internet

they literally got Peterson's book banned New Zealand after the mosque attack despite having nothing to do with it, and there's literally nothing you can do about it

if anything this just shows how progressives have so much power that even ridiculing them does nothing, the intersectional coalition will probably explode from inside at some point, but at this point they are unstoppable and there's no competing coalition

[Anonymous No.12905773]

>>12903908
>mostly on the internet
and literally in all media, government and all corporations
https://twitter.com/wokecapital

[Anonymous No.12905776]

>>12902884
Peterson will fail under the spotlight when any point that he needs to make to prove his position conflicts with the Jewish cause. He will have painted himself into a corner.

[Anonymous No.12905779]

>>12903910
imagine how many clowns you could fit in there
>>12903953
it's debatable how successful his reaction to nihilism is, he may fail just like atheist "enlightened humanism" failed before

[Anonymous No.12905783]

>>12904096
oh boy, this post thinks there's a """normality""" where we will just all go back to be comfy scary progressives go away

there's no normal to go back to anymore

[Anonymous No.12905790]

>>12904096
>every dad in America
>dad
lol, most american families don't even have such a thing anymore, things will never be the same

[Anonymous No.12905796]

It will face the same fate as picrelated. Heck, it is even worse off because it only sold 3 million a year. Does anyone remember this book? No. Is it a good book? Propably not. Has it sold 30(!) million copies worldwide and was a big thing in 2006? Yes.

[Anonymous No.12905801]

>>12905796
>Due partly to an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show, the book and film had grossed $300 million in sales by 2009.
Jesus, writing shitty self help books with a clever marketing is all it takes to "make it".

[Anonymous No.12906046]

>>12905801
Wine aunts are the audience you want to reach, if you ever plan on "making it"

[Anonymous No.12906305]

>becomes a self-help guru
>targets people who society doesn't pretend to care about
>help them fix temselves
>once they get rich start selling them overprced ties and rugs

I don't know why /lit/ think JP is stupid when we have clear proof of the contrary.

[Anonymous No.12906597]

>>12903114
A Jewish pseud bragging about his muh ashkenazi IQ memes. Reminder zionists are just as shit as your average white nationalist NEET.

[Anonymous No.12906796]

>>12906046
don't you need a brother/sister who's reproducing to be an aunt, doubt there's much of that around anymore

[Anonymous No.12907124]

>>12905056
You could get this from any good pastor or preacher dumbass, yet instead of doing something like that which would require you to actually go outside and be social, you choose to watch internet meme men on yt. This is why self-help is fucked.