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The last real philosophers

>> No.12826891
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based and existencepilled

>> No.12826901

what would nietzsche think of muslims in europe today?

>> No.12826975

>>12826901
Not much probably

>> No.12826993

>>12826975
even if they mugged him and slashed his face?

>> No.12827004

Soren can suck it. Was basically a theologist imo.

>> No.12827008

>>12826993
He was smart enough to know that shit happens

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>>12827008

>> No.12827019

>>12827004
That's true desu and I say this as a Kierkegaardfag. God and the Church were his concern, he just happened to do some philosophy along the way and turned out really good at it.

>> No.12827023

>>12827004
He was also the smartest human being of all time

>> No.12827117

>>12826870
>block your path

>> No.12827122

>>12827117
nice

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The last real philosophers

>> No.12827173

>>12827134
lol Marx isn't a philosopher

>> No.12827314

>>12827173
are you serious?
he is

>> No.12827426

>>12827117
If he couldn't get out of faith he was a pathetic, coward brainlet.

>> No.12827565

>>12826901
He would think that Europe as a society had long ago abandoned itself into some sort of rationalist nihilism, letting a proactive ideological force take it over. Perhaps he would marvel about how the death of God was only empowering to those willing to worship a god through death.
Ultimately I believe he would have defaulted back to supporting Europe as it was and encouraging an ubermensch to establish a real value system

>> No.12827606

>>12826870
Unfortunately I feel Ayn Rand must and will inevitably be accepted as one the true philosophers after these two

>> No.12827692

>>12827606
>unfortunately
Why? The Objectivist theory of concepts is pretty potent.

>> No.12827705

>>12827018
Pets attack humans or other animals on occasion. I hope you don't hate their pets now.

>> No.12827708

>>12827426
If you can't cut off your balls you're a pathetic, cowardly brainlet.

>> No.12827868

>>12827019
Where do I start with kierky?

>> No.12827875

>>12827134

Almost perfect get rid of marx.

Replace Marx with Wittgenstein thanks.

>> No.12827896

>>12827868
Look up "Provocations- Spiritual Writing of Kierkegaard". It's entries form his journals translated and published in english. People have criticized the work for only scratching the surface of his philosophy, but I'd say that's obviously the point. From there I'd go on with Fear and Trembling, but don't expect to get into much depth if you're not at least somewhat familiar with Kant and Hegel.

>> No.12827926

>>12826870
Philosophy is very broad but shallow. I used to be into it but it's garbage that just serves to allow philocucks to pat themselves on the back.

>> No.12827932

>>12826870
Peterson and Zizek? Yeah.

>> No.12827937

>>12827932
Peterson has 0 new ideas lol. Philosophy is such a dumpsterfire.

>> No.12827944

>>12827134
replace that poser Marx with Kierkegaard and you got a good pic

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Uhh... Aren't you forgetting about someone?

>> No.12828298

>>12827606
>This is what Americans acutally believe
Being a raindrop pouring on a hot stone does not make you special, it makes you irrelevant

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the last real philosophers

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>>12826870
the last real philosopher...

>> No.12829075

>>12827314
an economist yes, a journalist yes. not a philosopher.

>> No.12829179

>>12827692
jesus...

>> No.12829276

>>12826870
Err, no. Critical thinking has not killed God. Because of correlationism the Absolute has become unthinkable. The speculative realists are bringing philosophy back

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>>12829276
The last real philosophers.

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>>12826870
>>12827134

You bunch of idiots.

>> No.12829507

>>12828088
As much of a manipulative midwit charlatan piece of shit molymeme is, he (unlike Peterson or Zizek) has actually developed ideas of his own.

>> No.12829536

>>12827004
YOU FUCKING IDIOT. PHILOSOPHY HAS BEEN INEXTRICABLY LINKED TO RELIGION FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. YOU FUCKING IMBECILE. YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD, ORIGINAL POINT? YOU ARE AN ABERRATION. SECULAR PHILOSOPHY IS AN OXYMORON YOU FUCKING DUMB IDIOT. KIERKEGAARD'S INVESTIGATIONS OF CHURCH INFRASTRUCTURE REVEAL TRUTHS ABOUT POWER AND INFLUENCE THAT ARE STILL IMPORTANT TODAY. KIERKEGAARD'S INVESTIGATIONS OF THE ABSOLUTE, THE UNIVERSAL, AND THE PARTICULAR COME FROM ANALYSIS OF HIS OWN FAITH, AND REVEAL MORE ABOUT HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY AND SPIRIT THAN ANY PSYCHOANALYST, PSYCHOLOGIST, OR SOCIOLOGIST WHO HAS EVER LIVED. YOU FUCKING TROGLODYTE. LORD HAVE MERCY

>> No.12829545

>>12828313
important but not real

>> No.12829554

>>12827896
this dude is being a gatekeeping pseud. I've never read Kant or Hegel and Fear and Trembling straight up made me cry. it's beautiful. it takes a while to read, but if you are conscientious and discerning, you will understand most of it.

>> No.12829577

>>12829536
Based and redpilled.

>> No.12830145

>>12826901
I am pretty sure he would be aware of the fact that Islam and Muslims are selling all their values to be part of the greater globalist sphere. Nietzsche didn't really care about religions or ethnicities as much as he cared about humanity as a whole.
Not like a pol tard would understand that.

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>>12829536

>muh gawd

"Top" "lel"

>> No.12830470

>>12830145
>Nietzsche didn't really care about religions or ethnicities
Not really, he was racist. Just like everyone else during his time.

>> No.12830609

>>12827926
wut

>> No.12830677

>>12827705
>dog sees ugly as blob man reaching for it
>smells bad
>don't know what it should do
>acts on instincts
>bites man
>man:owie zowwie
>man: dog r bad
>gains instinctual fear of dogs
>dogs are dumb
>goes on 4chan
>Tfw a /pol/ack is born

>> No.12830708

Kierkegaard is such a shite philosopher

>> No.12830728
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>>12826870
you should read deleuze OP

>> No.12830852

>>12827565
>neetch
>supporting Europe
lol no. he’d probably cuck out harder than even the average kraut and be pleased that muh noble arabs were finally sweeping away the feminized European cultures

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>>12826870

>> No.12830888

*Wittgenstein and Heidegger laughts intensifies*

>> No.12830895

>>12830857
What kind of Heidegger is this?

>> No.12831783

>>12829536
based

>> No.12832774

>>12830888
Absolutely checked

>> No.12832810

>>12826870
One of them was a hack.

>> No.12832817

>>12827173
>>12829075
Holy shit lmao go back to pol retard.

>> No.12832820

>>12830728
unironically this

>> No.12833120

>>12826901
He thought Muslims were sybaritic happy-go-lucky belly dancing sex addicts, so I imagine he would be surprised to say the least

>> No.12833193

>>12829536
>be Christian
>destroy any philosophical text which does not agree with your dogma
>hundred/ thousands of years later
>muh inextricable link
yeah, right...

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The last real philosopher

>> No.12834571

>>12828948
Really speaks for postindustrial modernity that arguing well considers you philosophically minded.

>> No.12834689

>>12829536
>FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS
Yeah? It's existed for thousands of years.

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>>12827173
>Marx isn't a philosopher

>> No.12835055

>>12830677
>muslim sees white man walking
>sees cross of christ on his neck
>don't know what it should do
>acts on instincts
>assaults the man
>man:owie zowwie
>man:muslim bad
>gains instinctual muslims fear
>musliks are bad
>goes on 4chan
>see many others saying the same
>see bomb attacks
>see rape
>Tfw a /pol/ack is born

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>>12834717
It has to be something like: I don't like his system, so he's not a philosopher, duh!

>> No.12835575

>>12827565
He was an incel. He would rage on /pol/ and /r9k/ and take every bait planted there. He would contract AIDS from a tranny and would go on a rampage after snapping when he listens too often to his sister getting Arab dick next door

>> No.12836484

>>12834717
he was an economist and anthropologist. not a philosopher.

>> No.12836532

>>12830895
a very spic one

>> No.12836538

>>12826975
Nice projection
Like everything he wrote about he would have scathing criticisms

>> No.12836584

>>12829507
Yeah like being a cult leader

>>12828948
>says post modernism is bad
>is a post modernist
>admires post modernists like nietzsche
He's just a UN plant.

>> No.12836631

>>12830895
Made me chuckle

>> No.12836633

>>12836584
>post modernists like nietzsche
never go full retard.

>> No.12836652

>>12836633
He essentially is

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>>12836584
>Yeah like being a cult leader
I was talking about the whole universally preferable behaviour thing
You don't need to do the snark thing with me guy, I clearly am not a fan of the man.
Although the molycult is kind of in the past now anyway, he's managed to somehow transition into an alt-right e-celeb instead.

>> No.12836698

>>12836652
He's had no influence on that movement. Furthermore, he died before the movement preceding post-structuralism (and being opposed by it) even formed.

So many people on /lit/ forget that post-structuralism didn't just appear out of nowhere like some spooky magic ghost desiring to haunt western civilization.

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You poor, poor children....

>> No.12836781

>>12836672
I used to have all those edits saved

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>>12836698
now let me tell you why trannies shouldn't be called xir. you see, there's this... darkness *pauses* in all of us, that constantly threatens to consume us with dark thoughts *waves hands*
thoughts like, what would it be like to kill a man? to have him in your basement and rape him daily? *pauses and swallows loudly*
I believe to do this requires compassion. To anally sodomize a man daily requires true genuine compassion. To understand suffering is to be able to inflict it on others.
Let me tell you about this book, The Gulag Archipelago by Aleskandri Solzehnitsyn. In this book, you'll see many reasons why communists were swallowed by the darkness. The darkness that some of us swallows again face every day.
The deep desire to kill, to torture, to see another man's naked flesh pauses for an uncomfortably long time But how do we fight this darkness? I'm not saying religion is the answer, I'm not say it's not, but let me tell you about this Disney movie I was watching the other day...

>> No.12836838

>>12836814
deep down you believe that what you wrote is funny and insightful, but then you realize that nobody ITT was defending Peterson. it's just your association of Nietzsche with postmodernism that is ultimately beyond retarded to everyone who finished high school.

>> No.12836850

>>12836838
what makes you think I was trying to be insightful? you're projecting way too much of your pseud.

>> No.12837435

>>12836672
UPB is stolen from Kant's deontology. Molumeme has never constructed his own ideas.

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>>12826901

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>>12827008
"Part and parcel of amor fati."
- NEETchuh

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>>12827008

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A true philosopher knows written or spoken works will be misinterpreted and that therefore the best way to convey your message is through actions veiled in blood and myth

>> No.12838097

>>12837458
Based

>> No.12838103

if you guys dont know what to do with your time a better use is always to just do some math.

>> No.12838577

>>12827173
retard

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>>12827314
>>12834717

>> No.12840075

>>12826870
just a bunch of irrelevant dead white men. we need to start appreciating colored philosophers first.

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>> No.12840721

>>12826870
NEETchee = beta bitch

>> No.12840813

>>12827004
Retard