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Anonymous Sat Mar 23 16:41:05 2019 No.12813565 [Reply] [Original]

>"It is no secret that he [Wittgenstein] was enamored with animals, but when the zoo installed an orangutan exhibit he became startling obsessed with the creature. He visited the exhibit often and would stand for hours, sometimes chattering with and tossing peanuts from the little packs my wife had given him at the beast; at other times standing silent as the grave, with a swami's meditative gravity to his unvarried glare as he watched the orangutan lope about in the cage. One time during such a reverie I approached him and asked him what it was he found so fascinating about the ghastly primate. He replied, "The whole of my philosophy is summarized in this orangutan." I was stunned and asked him to elaborate. He answered, "No." Two weeks later he and a gypsy import he had apparently hired for a get-away driver were arrested for attempting break the orangutan out of the zoo. My wife had to go down to the station to pay his bail." -Norman Malcolm, in Ludwig Wittgenstein: A Memoir (1966), p. 88

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 16:44:01 2019 No.12813573 >I was stunned and asked him to elaborate. >He answered, "No." https://youtu.be/u5BfoOrmCX0

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 16:45:14 2019 No.12813575 File: 370 KB, 868x805, Wittgendotes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These threads about him [Wittgenstein] are simply great

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 16:49:52 2019 No.12813597 >>12813573 i thought you had linked to this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u2j578jTBCY

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 16:59:50 2019 No.12813645 >>12813575 >the second one What kind of person would submit his wife to this humiliation just to please a friend?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 17:00:20 2019 No.12813648 >>12813597 Why are the French so terrified of productive agency? Is it their historical memory of the German?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 17:00:51 2019 No.12813651 >>12813645 based retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 17:02:18 2019 No.12813660 >>12813597 Why would a serious philosopher base their thinking on something as shallow as national stereotypes? Any cretin on this board can say the same things he did.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 23 17:38:16 2019 No.12813839

>>12813660
It's not a national stereotype, if you don't acknowledge that even now, during the height of the hegemonial power of globalism, there are cultural differences and behaviours then you're a fucking dishonest pseud.
Germans and Americans are not the same people even though one would like to think that by now everything has adopted to the American system. But the fact of the matter is that even the US is not an empire in the sense that it remained unchanged during the formative years of heavy globalism.
We all suffer from the capitalist Utopia

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:04:09 2019 No.12813958 >>12813660 >base their thinking hmmmm

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Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:18:49 2019 No.12814015

>>12813565
Witty wasn't a philosopher he was just playing the role. Undoubtedly the whole time he was probably thinking about how Schop had said something about orangutans which had struck him as profound, and then, after finding himself at the zoo, something he certainly did ironically, he found himself moved by the thought that he alone understood the animal and was seeing its essence. The reason he stood so long is because it takes a long time to draw out a coherent thought when for the most part you are just estimating how profound you must look to passerby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:20:36 2019 No.12814022 >>12814015 Speaking from experience?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:37:10 2019 No.12814121 >>12814022 What else can you speak from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:38:28 2019 No.12814132 >>12814121 Deduction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:41:59 2019 No.12814160 This is poorly written. Wittgensteinposter is getting sloppy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:47:58 2019 No.12814199 >>12814132 Which only proceeds by analysis, which gets all its content from experience. Nice try, kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 18:51:28 2019 No.12814219 >>12814160 It jumps the shark a bit but I still laughed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:15:05 2019 No.12814332 >>12813565 What is the best start to get into Wittgenstein? Anyone have a chart?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:22:47 2019 No.12814373 >>12814332 TLP obviously

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:23:20 2019 No.12814378 >>12814199 One could easily turn it around and say that the content is worthless without the formal structure, i.e. prioritize deduction over experience despite their necessary interaction

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Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:24:15 2019 No.12814383

>(Wittgenstein's) response to female students who tried to attend his lectures was even worse. If a woman appeared in the audience, he would remain standing silent until she left the room.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/11/08/what-can-you-really-know/

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:24:22 2019 No.12814384 >>12814332 He published two books you fucking pseud brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:30:04 2019 No.12814416 >>12813575 It took me to the third one to realize this was satire

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:31:07 2019 No.12814424 >>12814416 the first one isnt though

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 23 19:34:01 2019 No.12814616 File: 28 KB, 344x291, 1526393875967.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12814384

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Anonymous Sat Mar 23 20:08:42 2019 No.12814791

>>12813839
Of course there are cultural differences, I wasn't trying to imply they didn't exist. What I was trying to say is that he pointed out a cultural difference and presented it like it was something insightful, which struck me as glib since any polandball comic does the same thing as he did, take a cultural difference and associate it to a national caricature, like the serious german, the lazy spaniard and the business-like american.