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Neither Hegel, Nietzsche Kant or Schopenhauer could've explain this or predict it, not even the greeks would predict a future where human decadence would come to this but this is the clown world we live on the clown world no one saw coming

>> No.12795201

>>12795193
The fuck you on about the greeks couldnt stop themselves from bumming every adolescent boy be it slaves or upper class.

>> No.12795202

>>12795193
source?

>> No.12795211

>>12795193
marx sort of did

>> No.12795212

>>12795193
Q predicted this.

>> No.12795215

>>>/his/

>> No.12795219

>>12795193

Predict? I think most philosophers starting from the Greeks anxiously craved for this moment

>> No.12795220

>>12795201
Would they give money to a whore who would not even expose her body to them?

>> No.12795225

>>12795193
PURE CAPITALISM

>> No.12795241

Why does /lit/ think the role of the philosopher is to predict? They are not prophets or fortune tellers. Talk like this in academia and get laffed right back to your computer.

>> No.12795253

>>12795241

It's not a particular trait with /lit/ but rather with the whole of our (too technical) society. You get folks like Dawkins and Tyson pretending the one and only function of every endeavor is to be able to reliably predict phenomena (even if you don't understand it), and it has lately even leaked into our blockbuster entertainment and media (a president gets elected already talking about the next elections, a movie whose sole purpose is to anticipate a next movie in its credits, etc.). We seem so frustrated about not having a future in sight that we desperately cling to crafting one.

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>>12795241
And what are they in academia?

>> No.12795259

>>12795241
Predictions is the whole point of science philosophy and maths, understand things so you can predict recreate them

>> No.12795415

>>12795193
Does she really deserve that much??

>> No.12795425

>>12795415
The free market says she does

>> No.12795478

>>12795425
This is why capitalism is wrong. All these wasted resources over a trollop.

>> No.12795504

>>12795478
>this is why capitalism is wrong
Who benefits from this exchange? She benefits because she's being paid for it, the patrons benefit because they get to see her pics, and Patreon benefits by making money off her. Everyone comes out happier.

>> No.12795510

>>12795193
Dude, It's been degenerate since the Luther broke up the church and the Puritans came to America. Fuck off with your forever undefined moral standards.

>> No.12795511

>>12795504
Except it doesn't really. It's a waste. Stop trying to defend it.

>> No.12795513

>>12795504
Lmao

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>>12795193
The degeneracy is not gendered

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>>12795504
>Everyone comes out happier
I think you're forgetting someone anon.

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>>12795478
>wasted resources
What did you mean by this? It's not like she's literally consuming the money she's paid.

>> No.12795530
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>>12795193
But Nietzsche did both explain and predict it. That was literally his whole schtick.

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>> No.12795550

>>12795520
small, statistically irrelevant populations of the mentally ill are not included in generalizations about the general population.

>> No.12795562

>>12795550
Fair enough.

>> No.12795584

>>12795220
i'm sure they had dancers

>> No.12795592

>>12795241
>lmao i don't have to justify spending hours writing fanfic about reality
alrighty then

>> No.12795649

Jean Beaudrillard in his book “Simulacres et Simulation“ actually adresses a prediction. extremely similar to what our lives are like today. Along with this, he formed a philosophy which is the understanding that the world is now dangerously self referential. For example: Greeks created classic stories like Oedipus Rex, then dante took such characters and wrote them into his stories, then Shakespeare references dante in Hamlet, and then there is a little movie called the Lion King which references Hamlets storyline. Then a live action Lion King film comes along in 2019. This referencing dangerously obscures human understanding of the actual world. One of the most extreme example of this is memes. Jokes which make sense on a very limited sense, and take from so much internet culture and human culture.

>> No.12795670

>>12795649
Based. Does he propose a solution to this? How can one be truly original in his creation of art?

>> No.12795843

>never in history have women been fetishized

"no"

>> No.12795851

This is basic capitalism, people selling things "like photos of themselves" and consumers who enjoy the product spend money on them. Even under communism this would still happen, it just wouldn't involve money and she would be doing it only if she actually enjoyed sharing her beauty

>> No.12795878

>>12795851
Russia is currently considering disconnecting from the internet.

>> No.12795882

>>12795878
What do you mean? So people can't spend money on the internet?

>> No.12795888

How is flaunting your beauty different from like athletics who play sports for millions of dollars a game?

>> No.12795909

>>12795649
This also explains how unread and uneducated people are when you try to discuss The One-Thousand and One Nights with them, and then they say "Oh, you mean like in the movie Inception?"

>> No.12795911

>>12795212
lol

>>12795193
you're retarded, of course they could have. prostitutes are nothing new.

>> No.12795924

What makes ugly people so angry upon seeing a beautiful person capitalize off their gifts

>> No.12795930
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>>12795911

>> No.12795948

>>12795882
Like a country-wide intranet, their own internet which does not connect to western systems and can't be infiltrated. Supposedly it is already there in case of war, but I think due to the economic war with the west they are considering setting it up to be used constantly.

>> No.12795952

>>12795201
You know that most sources about the love between master and student usually refer to a platonic kind of love, right?

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>>12795193
>See that the average person donates over $60 a month
>Check her Patreon tiers
>There are people paying $2,500 a month to talk to her
What the actual fuck

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>>12795975
>Paying $2,500 for such an obviously phony and slimy girl to pretend to be interested in you

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12795995

>dude why are people allowed to spend money on whatever they want

grow up commies this is a libertarian world

>> No.12795999

>>12795975
Honestly, I see no moral wrong in abducting this girl and keeping her as a sex slave. Let her truly experience her pretenses.

>> No.12796002

>>12795995
i'm allowed to be incredulous at the desperation of post-soi men

>> No.12796003

>>12795193
imagine looking in the mirror and thinking "I'm beautiful. I'm worth taking a picture of."

>> No.12796008

>>12796003
What do you mean. Most of us here are hot enough to do it but why sell out mortal souls and lose our dignity?

>> No.12796009

>>12796003
i'm 3/10 ugly but i still admire myself in the mirror for about 10 minutes a day and take selfies that only i look at

>> No.12796019

Predicted modelling?

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>>12796008
>>12796009

>> No.12796025
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Nietzsche was a slut for having pictures taken of him with like swords. He would have loved this

>> No.12796032

>>12795999
Nice trips. You are a retard however.

>> No.12796039

mhm.. is she fuck for good enough money? give link to patron motherfuck

>> No.12796049

>>12796039
>is she fuck for good enough money?
No, but she'll talk to you for $2,500 >>12795975

>> No.12796052

>>12795478
it's not wasted, she's going to buy a bunch of stuff with that money and stimulate the economy and even create jobs

>> No.12796069

>>12795415
Millions have enjoyed looking at her. That effects more people than more other jobs can do

>> No.12796089

>>12795193
Frankly the fact that the internet has destroyed the Hollywood cult of celebrity is a good thing in my opinion. Celebrity-power is now more distributed and decentralized than ever meaning a lot of people live an above-average lifestyle for no reason instead of a few people living an exceptional lifestyle for no reason. I prefer a thousand instagram thots to one Kim Kardashian.

>> No.12796091

>>12795258
wow he sounds like a fucking teenager, 'why do we just feed into the System? Why don't people rebel and make a better world?'

>> No.12796092

>>12796049
Kek

>> No.12796099
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12796099

Free market capitalists, buddies... *looks down and shakes head with a smirk on my face* You've forgotten to factor something into your economic model: the fires of Hell are for eternity.

>Watch ye therefore, because ye know not what hour your Lord will come.

>> No.12796100

>>12795193

What do you think she spends it all on?
It's weird but it's actually hard for me to think of someone like this as a person and I don't mean that in a demeaning way

>> No.12796106

>>12796089
>a lot of people live an above-average lifestyle for no reason instead of a few people living an exceptional lifestyle for no reason
Why is this an improvement?

>> No.12796111

>>12795193
deleuze predicted everything and more

>> No.12796113

>>12796106
>moving wealth from the upper class to the upper middle class
>Why is this an improvement?

>> No.12796114

>>12796089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLUIXWnrC0

>> No.12796117

>>12796113
Yes, explain. Greentext is not an argument.

>> No.12796126

>>12796117
it's fundamental to my judgement system that consolidation of wealth and power is inherently bad

>> No.12796133

>>12796126
And why is this?

>> No.12796138

>>12796133
Because your mom's gay, Socrates

>> No.12796139

>>12796089
Being famous doesn't always mean you are going to be rich. And a few more people making money from Instagram doesn't mean the entire class gap is shrinking

>> No.12796144

>>12796100
>dude people aren't people because I don't like their lifestyle

grow up

>> No.12796149

>>12796089
this. meme-tier fetishes are no more vapid than the trash that was pushed into super-stardom on MTV 15 years ago, and there are less pretenses of the product being something you ought to look up to on some kind of spiritual level.

>> No.12796187

>>12796106

Just think about it for a moment anon
Do you think it's harder for someone to go from being lavishly wealthy to only being moderately wealthy or for someone to go from being moderately wealthy to being destitute
These gaps may seem the same in theory but in reality they are obviously not
This is pretty much the whole basic idea behind redistributing wealth

>> No.12796188

>>12796139
if you're handed fame and don't translate it to wealth and power it's because you chose not to or are incompetent. It's less about the class gap and more about the popular culture of national celebrity worship and the insular degeneracy of Hollywood dissolving.

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>>12795193
this post actually made me slam my desk
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
what went so wrong

>> No.12796201

>>12795425
>>12795478
I blame the fucking retards that give money to this whore.

>> No.12796202
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12796202

*Aham*

>> No.12796204

>>12796188
It's dissolving? It seems to be as popular as ever. Just because they aren't an Actor from Hollywood doesn't make them any less of a celebrity

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12796210

>>12796202
*A ham*

>> No.12796214

>>12796202
>performance

Thats what she is doing. She didn't come out of wealth and property she came out of people paying her because they admired her art

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>> No.12796228

What is so decadent about this?

>> No.12796235

>>12796228
She's wasting a lot of food >>12796223

>> No.12796236

>>12796223
this post actually made me slam my desk
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
what went so right

>> No.12796242

>>12796204
Just consider that instead of attempting to assassinate the president because of an obsession with Jodie Foster, John Hinckley takes shots at Ronald Reagan for the attention of some instagram thot. Suddenly his obsession with the girl is a footnote on the trail of mental illness that led him to trying to kill the president and no longer the primary narrative behind the incident. Imagine a world where celebrity is contained and deprioritized because it's decentralized across niches on the internet. That's certainly a better world to me.
>>12796223
how very Freudian

>> No.12796247

>Nietzsche and schopenhauer would visit prostitutes yet a women taking suggestive photos of herself would be too unbelievable for them

>> No.12796254

>>12796247
it actually would lmao

>> No.12796282

>>12796247

it seems as if you are just proving the point you are trying to disprove

>> No.12796323

>>12796235
If you think that's wasteful you should check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLqkV8cP4xs

>> No.12796326

>>12795649
Yeah, people reference things. Dante referenced Virgil, Virgil referenced Homer, Homer referenced others before him, and them the same.
It’s called cultural relevance. Baudrillard was a fucking retard.

>> No.12796327

>>12796323
Yes, we live in a decadent society.

>> No.12796331

>>12796282
>>12796254
Care to explain then?

>> No.12796337

>>12796323
Feeding all the hungry people in the world should be a basic goal for humanity. It's something like 7 million people that still die from starvation a year

>> No.12796338

>>12795550
lol who else but mentally ill losers and middle aged men would pay for titty pictures?

>> No.12796364

>>12796323
solving world hunger isn't about 100% food utilization, it's about producing enough of a surplus to have the inefficient aspects of distribution not matter.

>> No.12796367

>>12796338
Straight men with money who enjoy doing things for strange erotic pleasure

>> No.12796378

>>12795193
>retards not knowing the 150,000 is a guess and it's probably closer to 20,000
>losers whining about this instead of realizing if they could just produce something worth five-ten bucks a month to a few thousand people, they'd have an incredible life

>> No.12796395

>>12796367
rapists more like

>> No.12796400

>>12795999
Same

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>>12796190

>> No.12796411

>>12795999
>>12796400
>This woman makes money? She should be raped!!
I didn't know muslims posted here so openly

>> No.12796417

>history is full of people getting massacred for no reason yet somehow models making money off wearing silly costumes is peak decadence

whatever dudes

>> No.12796419

>>12796411
>>>/pol/

Racism has no place here.

>> No.12796422

>>12795220
>why won’t she show me bobs >:(

>> No.12796429

>>12796419
>muslim is a race
I wish retards weren't allowed here

>> No.12796430

Why do people do this? I dont fucking get it? Who would any money on a girl over the Internet

>> No.12796436

>>12796378
>just produce something

>> No.12796438

>>12796429
Ok but who are you quoting?

>> No.12796458

>>12796430
>Who would any money on a girl over the Internet
Eh.

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12796472

she has mastered the mysterium, as long as she doesn't reveal what her pussy looks like or how she looks without makeup, orbiters will see whatever the fuck they want in her, a goddess, a nerdy thot, an idiol..
als, her last name is Kirschtein

>> No.12796519

>>12795193
Have sex

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>>12796519
How much do you think it would cost?

>> No.12796544

Sometimes when I fuck my gf I close my eyes and imagine she's Belle Delphine.

>> No.12796550

>>12796544
I do that when I choke my gf

>> No.12796579

>>12796544
with but without the gf part

>> No.12796600

>>12796550
Based

>> No.12796604

>>12795670
He was a genuine Romantic at heart. He wanted more nature in the words men wrote. I do believe he used his philosophy as a way to create more enticing perspectives though. Although he sees this referentiality as an issue, he believed he was guilty of it too.

>> No.12796610

>>12795211
culteral marxism is exactly what lead to this

>> No.12796620

>>12796091
Angst is the position of freedom. You clearly have gave that up long ago. I never pictured someone to so openly resent freedom

>> No.12796632

>>12796610
>culteral marxism led to rampart capitalism
?

>> No.12796633

Dostoyevsky wrote about these girls all the time.

>> No.12796639

>>12795670
To the person questioning if there was a proposed solution. Beaudrillard didn’t really have a clue how to fix it. He was a genuine Romantic at heart. He wanted more nature in the words men wrote. I do believe he used his philosophy as a way to create more enticing perspectives though. Although he sees this referentiality as an issue, he believed he was guilty of it too.

>> No.12796641

>>12796632
>rampart
Fugg, I meant rampant.

>> No.12796643

>>12796632
the decline in moral standards. communism really does rot the brain i see

>> No.12796647

>>12796610
/pol/ get out

>> No.12796655

>>12795193
>average patron giving her 60 dollars a month
Jesus, how do people afford to pour so much money down the drain.

>> No.12796661

>>12796643
Are you saying that I could not buy for lewd images back in the good old days? Thanks to the moral integrity of the times?

>> No.12796670

>>12795649
What is the connection to the Instagram chick though? What would Belle Delphi in Ancient Greece be?

>> No.12796680

>>12796661
Its not the same. people wouldn't be paying for them online.

>> No.12796683

>>12796655
Considering the fact that the number is made up to trigger people, chances are they can not.

>> No.12796690

>>12796419
Nice false flag. We all know that muslims are not only not a race but are just as barbaric and backwards as you retarded reactionaries on /pol/ and thus deserve no sympathy.

>> No.12796691

>>12796680
>people wouldn't be paying for them online
Well yeah, the internet did not exist so that's a given.

>> No.12796696

>>12796643
have you even at least read the Wikipedia page of Marx, or you just repeat unconsciously that le unepic left ruin the society?

>> No.12796699

At the same time, a small number of billionaires are robbing the wealth of entire nations, but we don't need to care because they don't have pink hair or wear cat ears. Oh, time to spend some money on another book.

>> No.12796708

>>12796690
Racism isn't cool dude. You need to read about what leads to xenophobia and stop this hate mongering.

>> No.12796714

>>12796699
Fuck off commie. You are to blame for all of this.

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>>12795193
If you want an explanation to this phenomenon, look at the comments. Then look at the difference in likes. It is a fairly insecure person using social media for reassurance. She slowly moved in the bimbo direction after realizing bimbo photos get more attention than other photos.
It is fascinating, really, so much of what social media has unveiled about how desperate the unalienated is for external reassurance. These moments are thrown out by the insecure to study the reaction, only to go back and equip what was learned. These slow mutations take shape in the content, controlled, and accelerate into the optimal. This media reaches into reality, and changes perception of the insecure outside of social media. This change in perception from the external makes the insecure form what they create, their character used for attention online. Security as addiction, and the effects are the same. Appearance warps, mindstate warps, interaction warps, until every original part has been replaced with another, plastic. The last visage of the former insecure can only be found in the past, archived on the insecures account, existing as a before to the after, an image of what once was and is not and cannot be. An empty simulacra, with the last moments being what would cause its becoming. Generation after generation, marking changing personality warping to the exteriors perception of the insecure combined with the insecure's view on the external combined with the infection that is trend dissemination. Memetic becoming is only a piece in the jigsaw puzzle that is the system of unbecoming. By being the commonality you are defended by the commonality, by the abstraction that is the commonality. Security shuts out the danger that is everything risk-oriented. Passion is only relevant in its absence to the unalienated insecure. Virtualized digital object information self-optimization for the generation of human reassurance.

>> No.12796729

>>12796708
I am an atheist. I hate all religions equally. I have a gay arabic friend who was almost killed by his family when he came out.

>> No.12796731

>>12795193
https://yiff.party/7330723

Her patreon posts for free. Also some zip files of all her snaps.

>> No.12796733

>implying Joyce wouldn't be the top paying patron just to send her fart poems

>> No.12796734

>>12796670
Helen of troy

>> No.12796740

>>12796729
They have nothing to do with the millions more people. Everyone is an individual, just because some people do things some ways doesn't mean all of them do or will always continue doing

>> No.12796743

>Bella Delphine in the ancient world:
Julius Caesar and Mark Antony would be banging her.

>> No.12796747

>>12796740
Exactly. Discouraging and even insulting reactionary religious behavior is good insofar as it pressures people to become atheist or at the very least more moderate and enlightened.

>> No.12796756

>>12796699
Fuck off brainlet a small number of billionaires stealing the money is a meme, they risk making money worthless, imagine having 10 000 bitcoins and believing that your fortune adds up to 10 000x4000=40millions, but is wrong because if you sold your bitcoins you'd devalue the worth of bitcoins and your weath would go from 40 millions to 4 actual million

>> No.12796760

>>12795504
Everyone comes out richer, not happier. As my man, Knut "inside her" Hamsun would say, "Happiness and nonsense are two different things."