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[Anonymous No.12779713]

>Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law.

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[Anonymous No.12779782]

>>12779713
It isn't funny at all, incel

[Anonymous No.12779846]

>>12779782
Meanwhile,
your non-existing gf cheats you
a nigger robs you
and you get fucked by corrupt kikes
lol

[Anonymous No.12779873]

>>12779713
Hard to deny that it's more moral.

[Anonymous No.12779879]

>>12779846
Imagine botching Kant so badly that you see this as a conclusion to his thought. His ethics aren't rooted in do goodery or altruism as your brain dead undergrad ethics 101 professor made you think. These allow an individual to be truly free by not constantly vacilating between various whims and conditions. You're nothing more than a slave to circumstance without the Kantian framework

[Anonymous No.12779881]

>>12779713
Why do people who don't believe in moral realism come into threads on morality and ask "but why should I do that, though?", as if it were some profound question? You know very well that not a single axiom will make you moral, and that you'll ultimately just do whatever you desire to. So why even pretend like you're looking for a reason to believe in/become moral?

I'm asking this honestly, because I genuinely don't understand why you're even pretending to be looking for a maxim that'll make you moral, when only you yourself could ever do that, by your own deciding to. I'm not saying I know what constitutes perfect objective morality, but you guys really sound like teenagers when you deny any existence of such or ask the question of "why" to any assertion made in favor of it, as if you couldn't ask that for literally anything else.

[Anonymous No.12779894]

>>12779879
>do goodery and altruism is brain dead compared to muh Kantian ethics
Yikes. I guess an antinatalist public shooter is moral for imposing on the world what he simultaneously wants the world to do to itself.

[Anonymous No.12779930]

>>12779894
Not what I said you fucking moron. You're genuinely retarded and unable to see things without relation to current events. If this is the opposite to that, if that is your first thought rather than self interest for ones own good, you're not only a brainlet but very likely mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.12779950]

>>12779881
Cause I want to know why you believe in moral?
Something that changes over time.
Something that is subject to a paradigm.

>You guys really sound like teenagers when you deny any existence of such.
Moral doesn't exist, prove me wrong.

It's just a way to keep the sheep calm imo.

[Anonymous No.12779970]

>>12779713
>CLEAN YOUR DOODY

[Anonymous No.12779979]

>tfw Kant would have your back on pro-cunny arguments

[Anonymous No.12779989]

>>12779979
i steal pic

[Anonymous No.12780009]

>>12779989
it is yours, friend

[Anonymous No.12780037]

>>12779930
What's braindead about altruism, anon? That sounds like what you were stating. If not, please correct me. And why is altruism incompatible with Kantian ethics, Kantian ethics only outlines the framework for the behavior, and not the behavior itself?

>>12779950
Then why don't you live by this to the fullest? Harm people, steal, lie, and so forth? I hope you'd do all of this wherever you can get away with it, otherwise you sound like you're following morality to some degree.

[Anonymous No.12780087]

>>12780037
I do this thins taking into account social repercussions as a factor. Like most of the people who think like me.

[Anonymous No.12780092]

>>12779979
Kant is heterosexualpilled

[Anonymous No.12780104]

>>12780087
so youre basically a psychopath

[Anonymous No.12780121]

>>12780104
Call it how you want.
But morality is not something you can acquire I think. I lack morality, there is nothing I can do about it.

Imo, morality is stupid.

[Anonymous No.12780132]

>>12779846
what does this have to do with Kant though? he is against cheating and stealing

[Anonymous No.12780133]

>>12780087
If these social repercussions were to dissolve (ex. like the Purge), say just for a day or a week, what kind of things would you do?

[Anonymous No.12780141]

>>12780121
Empathy can increase over one's lifetime, if you make the effort to.

[Anonymous No.12780146]

>>12780121
>But morality is not something you can acquire I think. I lack morality, there is nothing I can do about it.
ye, youre simply a defective human

[Anonymous No.12780150]

>>12780132
and niggers

[Anonymous No.12780157]

>>12779930
>If this is the opposite to that, if that is your first thought rather than self interest for ones own good, you're not only a brainlet but very likely mentally ill.
I don't hear any responses to the hypothetical situation he was proposing.

[Anonymous No.12780158]

>>12780132
do you want to be cheated or defrauded?
>>12780133
I don't own guns and I think people who are outside at night want to kill other people.
So I will probably sit in my penthouse and grab some popcorn.

[Anonymous No.12780168]

>>12780158
>do you want to be cheated or defrauded?
no?

[Anonymous No.12780180]

>>12780146
Well, I don't see how that is defective.
I guess I'm just different.

Nazis thought they had morals and they ended up doing what today is called immoral acts, so did the church when was burning "witches", so I don't really care about a moralist calling me defective. Yu are not different.

[Anonymous No.12780186]

>>12780168
then Kant says you should defraud or cheat.

[Anonymous No.12780193]

>>12780186
what the fuck are you talking about, no he doesn't. quote me one passage where Kant advocates fraud or cheating

[Anonymous No.12780200]

>>12780193
I meant shouldn't sorry.

[Anonymous No.12780211]

>>12779713
What if my maxim is maximised milker inspection and my ego wills it acceptable to become universal law.

[Anonymous No.12780225]

>>12780180
>Well, I don't see how that is defective.
because if everyone was a psycho we would've backstabbed each other into extintion 40k years ago
you're just a parasite, exploiting others' good will

[Anonymous No.12780227]

>>12780200
do you think Kant's deontology varies from person to person? it has nothing to do with your personality or what you want or think is good or bad. it is an absolute morality; stealing violates the categorical imperative in every single instance regardless of the person or the purpose

[Anonymous No.12780237]

>>12780211
as an addendum to this point let me add that I am absolutely comfortable with others inspecting my male milkers as a sacrifice for me to do so to others (read: busty women).

[Anonymous No.12780243]

>>12780158
But you yourself, with the opportunity to kill, would not do so?

[Anonymous No.12780245]

>>12780225
>40 k ago
<10 k ago women were raped and people were killed for some food so try again kid.

[Anonymous No.12780252]

>>12780150
and kikes

[Anonymous No.12780257]

>>12780227
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does. The moral is something very abstract, this is one of the problems.

[Anonymous No.12780264]

>>12780243
Not to a random, I don't take any benefit from doing it.

[Anonymous No.12780269]

>>12780211
>>12780237
as an addendum to both these posts (so far proved absolutely moral)
I should note that I am perfectly fine with people fondle my male milkers so long as I also get to eventually return the favour to female milkers of high stock, abroad, preferably at the beach, I have no problems with other men touching her milkers either.

[Anonymous No.12780283]

>>12780269
hey, as long as you enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.12780284]

>>12779930
Insults without answers don't make you look smart, anon.

[Anonymous No.12780292]

>>12780257
>Like his theoretical philosophy, Kant’s practical philosophy is a priori, formal, and universal: the moral law is derived non-empirically from the very structure of practical reason itself (its form), and since all rational agents share the same practical reason, the moral law binds and obligates everyone equally.
-- IEP

>Thus not only are moral laws together with their principles essentially distinguished among all practical cognition from everything else in which there is anything empirical, but all moral philosophy rests entirely on its pure part, and when applied to the human being it borrows not the least bit from knowledge about him (anthropology), but it gives him as a rational being laws a priori, which to be sure require a power of judgment sharpened through experience, partly to distinguish in which cases they have their application, and partly to obtain access for them to the will of the human being and emphasis for their fulfillment, since he, as affected with so many inclinations, is susceptible to the idea of a pure practical reason,but is not so easily capable of making it effective in concreto in his course of life.
-- Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Morals

[Anonymous No.12780326]

>>12780264
And if you could benefit, you would?

[Anonymous No.12780351]

>>12780292
>Thus not only are moral laws together with their principles essentially distinguished among all practical cognition from everything else

No, they are burry with multiple interpretations.
I really don't care if academics or Kant himself says they are clear, they are not.
This is why we have no concrete moral. This is why ideologies exist this is why people argue about it.

[Anonymous No.12780359]

>>12780326
Look, its very simple. Reward risk rules my life, its not complicated.
If I kill a random I get 1 M euros? I'll do it.
If I kill a random I get 1 euro? I won't do it.

[Anonymous No.12780489]

>>12780037
>>12780157
>>12780284
samefag

[Anonymous No.12780515]

>>12780489
Original anon here, can the other two please screenshot the page? My phone has no screenshot capacity. Also telling that he still hasn't given me an answer, but is now trying to "change the subject".

[Anonymous No.12780533]

Ok pals, seems like my post is dead, going to jerk off to some Gibi Asmr videos cya losers

[Anonymous No.12781167]

>>12780515
lol im gonna get ebin ubvotes on /r/4chan

[Anonymous No.12781294]

>>12779950
That's the kind of thought process that gets you twenty years in a Siberian prison, anon.

[Anonymous No.12782865]

>>12779713
Try it and see what happens, it'll be like that Yes movie with Jim Carrey, maybe you'll get into some zany goofs and gaffs

[Anonymous No.12782900]

well op, you may think that, but

*grabs cane and straw hat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzpL_5CI0WQ

[Anonymous No.12782933]

>>12779846
based

[Anonymous No.12783228]

>>12779713

When my friend's pursuer asks me where he has fled to, I would certainly put him on a false trail. Why does he ask precisely me, the
friend of the pursued man? So as not to be a false, traitorous friend,
I prefer to be false to the enemy. I could certainly with courageous
conscience answer: I will not tell (so Fichte decides the case) ; in
this way I would vindicate my love of truth and do for my friend
pretty much-nothing, because if I don't mislead the enemy, he may
accidentally take the right road, and my love of truth would have
betrayed my friend, because it prevented me from the-courage
of lying. Anyone who has an idol, a sacred thing, in truth must
humble himself before it, may not defy its demands, may not resist
courageously; in short, he must renounce the heroism of the lie.
Because no less courage belongs to the lie than to the truth

[Anonymous No.12783513]

>>12779713
As important as he was to philosophy Kant was an awful writer.

[Anonymous No.12783681]

>>12779950
how can morals keep the sheep calm if they don't exist?

[Anonymous No.12783787]

>>12779846
Are you dumb?
The nigger does not want to get robbed hinself. So making crime a universal law is against his self interest.

[Anonymous No.12784241]

>>12783787
this is the point faggot, even dumb people don't believe in this rule so they can take advantage of you.
>>12783681
The same way the boogeyman keep the kids calm.