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In my opinion it was just mediocre at best

>> No.12703581

Shit taste, my man. Consider suicide.

>> No.12703593

>>12703581
This.

>> No.12703611

>>12703574
the bar for this board has never been this low

>> No.12703699

>>12703574
OP is phony flit

>> No.12703722

>>12703581
But what makes it so popular ?

>> No.12703735

>>12703699
And ?

>> No.12703765

>>12703722
The style was influential and comfy. Are you a frog?

>> No.12703781

>>12703574
literally a perfect novel

>> No.12703795

>>12703765
Yes it was , but after ending this it felt like there was nothing else than this comfy style

>> No.12703809

>>12703574
Dont listen to cringe first poster, it gets praised by nostalgic boomers who went through adolescence in the 40s~50s and can relate to Holden. It's almost irrelevant today, just something you'd read to get a sense of the old days.

>> No.12703830

>>12703809
>muh buzzwords
cringe

>> No.12703848

>>12703781
You could call "Don Quixote" near perfect , but surely not this

>> No.12703853

Everyone misses the point of this book and thinks the only people that like it are people that relate to Holden cuz he can be a little prick.
Holden is a traumatized boy and everything he says and thinks is based off the defense mechanism he has put in place subconsciously. If you relate to him, it's because you probably have felt some trauma in your life as well.
Holden is going thru a large struggle growing into an adult, while hearkening back to the death of his younger brother, and his ex-classmate.
He is a troubled youth who has had a harder time adjusting to all the pivotal things that happen as you age around that time in your life. He is stuck in a flux of wanting to retain his childhood innocence while also wanting to become an adult without becoming "phony".

I could go on for hours about this book but it's mostly a tale about a kid trying to find himself, and essentially failing.

>> No.12703856

>>12703809
stupid reddit fag

>> No.12703859

>>12703795
Are you an NPC?

>> No.12703895

>>12703856
>>12703859
You are so clever and original

>> No.12703947

>>12703809
I'm literally 22 and I related to Holden when I first read it, what are you talking about, plebbitor?

>> No.12703954

>>12703895
Said the person who took away nothing from a classic

Get bent dickwad

>> No.12703966

>>12703853
Yeah , probably you are right , but still for me it is theme for teens and their problems which they can relate to , in my opinion better work made Hemingway in "old man and the sea" because its more universal for all matter of people

>> No.12703976

>>12703966
are you french? what's with the weird punctuation and english?

>> No.12703989

>>12703954
What should i take from this classic ?

>> No.12704001

>>12703976
No . Sorry its just not my native language .

>> No.12704088

>>12703853
>Everyone misses the point of this book
>gives the standard elementary-tier analysis of the book

>> No.12704100

>>12704088
now think about the dumbasses and automatons who weren't even able to glean that from reading it

>> No.12704111

>>12704100
pretentious faggot OP BTFO

>> No.12704167

>>12704088
>gives the standard elementary-tier analysis of the book
I'm not here to do your work for you
I just posted briefly why people connect to it

>> No.12704170

>>12703989
>needing to be told the interpretation instead of putting the most basic effort into doing it on your own
You are an NPC. I am not memeing. If I were memeing, then you would be the butt of the joke.

>> No.12704214

>>12703848
There are more ambitious novels than Catcher in the Rye, better ones as well. But there is nothing one can point to in Catcher and say, Salinger fucked up here.

>> No.12704278

Its no Pynchon

>> No.12705232

>>12704170
That's right anon! Can't be discussing books on the book board. You tell him.

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>>12705232
>"discussing"
>"why's the book so praised?"
Is that the level of "discussion" here?

>> No.12705260

>>12705238
Someone who posts wojaks has no business talking down to anyone.

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>>12705260
This. Pepe is far superior

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>>12705260
>posting the site's signature characters invalidates your opinion because I ran out of arguments
pathetic

>> No.12705276

>>12703574
It says exactly what it needs to say in the best way it can. It's not the best novel by any means, it's the best for what it could have been.

>> No.12705277

>>12703574
>His father, Sol Salinger, sold kosher cheese, and was from a Jewish family of Lithuanian descent, his own father having been the rabbi for the Adath Jeshurun Congregation in Louisville, Kentucky. Salinger's mother, Marie (née Jillich), was born in Atlantic, Iowa, of German, Irish, and Scottish descent, but changed her name to Miriam and considered herself Jewish after marrying Salinger's father.

>> No.12705284

>>12705269
Oh, I get it! It looks like you've accidentally clicked on /lit/ instead of /v/. That explains everything. Honest mistake.

>> No.12705295

>>12705284
As an outsider, my observation is that you're losing this fight miserably.

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>>12705284
>newfag without arguments keeps being pathetic and cringy
Stick to plebbit, faggot.

>> No.12705300

I enjoyed the rape scene

>> No.12705303

>>12705284
>implying no /lit/ regulars engage in 4chan culture

>> No.12705317

>>12705238
welcome to Donald Trump's ameriKKKa

>> No.12705423

>>12704001
Just curious: what is your native language?

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>>12703809
>being so much of an NPC you couldn't relate to Holden Fucking Caulfield at 15

gonna be a yikes from me dog

>> No.12705440

lol I love how /lit/ doesn't even pretend to entertain snobby OPs who shit on Catcher in the Rye. fucking based.

>> No.12705441

>>12705277
Salinger isn't a jew because being jewish is passed maternally.

>> No.12705449

>>12703574
I should read it again. I was at most 20 when I read it, and I did love it. Though the second read test has proven fatal to many books I read as a youth. Most notably Brave New World

>> No.12705460

>>12705441
Do they no longer teach genetics in public schools anymore?

>> No.12705483

>>12703574
It works on multiple levels

Boomer larva loved it in high school because Holden is JUST LIKE ME

Slightly more intelligent people like it because it's an impressive character study.

Salinger fanboys like it because it's written in-character by another by Salinger's character/alter ego Buddy Glass.

>> No.12705516

>>12705460
>being jewish
>genetic
the original jews were niggers

>> No.12705531

>>12705516
>Jewish father contributes half of all genes to child, but if the mother isn't Jewish that means the child will receive no Jewish genes. All of the paternal genes somehow disappear or magically don't code for anything

I guess that means they really don't teach genetics.

>> No.12705538

>>12703853
>Everyone misses the point of this book
What is the death of the author?

>> No.12705542

>>12705531
Tell me what's the "Jewish" gene.

>> No.12705546

>>12703966
Yeah, Old Man in the Sea is more applicable to all of life, but Catcher really hones in well on a specific point- being a teenager. Their both good but for different things.

>> No.12705550

>>12703853
We get it, Holden is suffering from depression. I still do not care for it, or mister drink my own piss other works.

>> No.12705640

>>12703722
it was unique and original at the time

it remains popular because it reads differently at different stages of life. read it at 14-18, 20-24, then any time past 30 and it's live you've read 3 different books.

>> No.12705677

>>12703795
>but after ending this it felt like there was nothing else than this comfy style
wut
Sure Catcher is pretty entry level lit, but its still full of universal meaning. Its meant to make you examine yourself, which is one of the trademarks of Salinger. If you read it and got nothing but "it was comfy" there's something wrong with you.

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>>12705435
>haha NPC! NPC lmao XD yikes!

>> No.12705719

>>12705542
Here is an example I found very quickly that shows a distinct genetic mutation that is more commonly found among the Ashkenazi population. .

> A four base pair insertion in exon 11 (1278insTATC) results in an altered reading frame for the HEXA gene. This mutation is the most prevalent mutation in the Ashkenazi Jewish population, and leads to the infantile form of Tay–Sachs disease.

>The HEXA gene provides instructions for making one part (subunit) of an enzyme called beta-hexosaminidase A.

What separates different ethic/racial groups is not one single gene as you seem to be asking for, which shows how little you have learned or taught about genetics.

>> No.12705739

>>12705719
The original anon was referring to the fact that in Jewish communities you're only a Jew if your mother is. It wasn't about muh genetics, it's obvious paternal genes are inherited. Being Jewish is not only about genetics.

>> No.12705740

>>12703574
I always think this is written by HUnter S thompson

>> No.12705765

if you spend time looking into the symbolism hidden in the subtext and between lines, it's quiet obvious that Holden killed and ate everyone he came across. notice the time it's implied he masturbates while thinking about the kid who commit suicide. this explains why no character ever re-appears. the only character Holden didn't eat and kill was his teacher at the beginning. he was too disgusted by his fat body he couldn't maintain a hardon.

this book seriously rivals american psycho. don't even get me started on his forces sexual relationship with his sister

>> No.12706043

>>12705765
what?
elaborate

>> No.12706048

>>12705765
Tell em about the Freemasonic initiation rites.

>> No.12706595

>>12703574
completely agree

>> No.12706607

>>12703611
>But what makes it so popular ?

Being assigned literature in American high schools.

>> No.12706615

i couldn't relate at all but i knew kids from school who behaved like holden maybe its a book for them

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>>12704001
What kind of language is it where you put a space before the full stop? PHP?

>> No.12707164

>>12703574
all these responses and no one mentioning that Holden fucks his sister

>> No.12707991

Because phoebe is the cutest character in literature

>> No.12708859

>>12703574
It doesn’t. The American “Education System” is just garbage and only teaches gay shit.

>> No.12708869

>>12707106
lmao btfo

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>>12703574
any based litizen care to rank Salinger's works from best to worst?

>> No.12709526

>>12703574
Cozy tone, relatable struggles, accurately portrayed emotions. What's not to like?

>> No.12709595

>>12708915
He starts off really well with Catcher and then basically just gets better and better, except that some of the stuff in Nine Stories matches the heights of his later work.

'Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters' is my favorite but it just personally resonated with me more, Seymour is amazing too.

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>> No.12710815

>>12709601
God I wish

>> No.12710819

>>12709601
He doesn't, though lmao

>> No.12711660

>>12709595
I love them all but

Nine Stories < Franny and Zooey < Raise High the Roof Beams = Catcher in the Rye < Seymour an Introduction < Hapworth 16 1924