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is Zizek postmodern or neomarxist and what is neomarxist?

>> No.12659663

>>12659655
he's a postmodern liberal neomarxist FASCIST who hates women and black men

>> No.12659681

>>12659663
>hates women
>gets married twice
What did Žižek mean by this?

>> No.12659712

>>12659655
zizek is a charlatan

>> No.12659719

>>12659712
in what respect is he a charlatan?

>> No.12659727 [DELETED] 

Marxist Guidebook rule #3475: Anything that makes leftists look like idiots or sociopaths is to be blamed on neoliberalism while secretly agreeing with it.

>> No.12659737

>>12659719

all of his work is literally just "the superstructure conforms to the base" + dick joke + pop culture reference

then drizzled with lacan

that's it, that's all he does. Once Deleuze reminded everyone that Spinoza rendered Hegel irrelevant, and once Guattari reminded everyone Lacan was a hack, Zizek's career was basically over.

No one worth listening to takes him seriously.

Sorry, anon.

>> No.12659746

Unironic answer he is a modernist

>> No.12659877

>>12659712
>>12659737
I mean is he a charlatan when he seems to be quite honest with what he is: a funny meme for college students? He does write some attempted serious essays and stuff but they're usually plainly presented as dumb "thought pieces" in the Guardian or whatever, rather than dense tomes of pretentious grandeur. Hardly a false presentation of who he is.

>> No.12659942

>>12659655
Ziz is against most postmodern conclusions, and he's a regular marxist, not a neo- one. >>12659746 is also correct.

>> No.12660256

>>12659655
He's a Marxist Leninist that uses Lacanaian psycho analytics. Like how Peterson is a Conservative Capitalist who uses Jungian psycho analytics. Postmodernism is a different tradition, Neomarxism isn't a thing. I'm pretty sure it's meant to conflate Critical Analysis and the Marxist Analysis that inspired it. For all the bemoaning that he's misinterpreted by the media, JPB basically dis- and reassembles philosophies in the least charitable cabalish ways to both have any lineage he wants and any ideas he wants.

>> No.12660301

postmodern, modern, marxist, neomarxist same shit

>> No.12660304

>>12659655
Just a gadfly

>>12660301
Nnnno.

>> No.12660324

>>12659663
wtf i love zizek now

>> No.12660337

>>12660301
imagine being this guy and believing this

>> No.12660359

>>12660256
Hate to be picky, but his theory is grounded in Lacan and Hegel and it is only politically that he's a Marxist.

>> No.12660455

>>12660359
>Hegel
Based. Marx ruined Hegel by removing the good parts. Marx also assumed that low quality humans would produce something good since they produce all the labor in the world, but it isn't the case. The heads are needed so that the hands of the world do good things.

>> No.12660530

>>12660455
>Marx ruined Hegel by removing the good parts. Marx also assumed that low quality humans would produce something good since they produce all the labor in the world, but it isn't the case. The heads are needed so that the hands of the world do good things.
based. Hegel was a monarchist state-worshipper for a reason

>> No.12660575

>>12659746
He's a postmodernist with modernist taste.

>> No.12660801
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12660801

>>12659663
Why would he hate black men? They embraced him as one of their own

>> No.12660820

>>12659655
When you read his mainline philosophical texts rather than his popular political books you get the impression that Marx doesn’t really play a major role in his philosophical thought. It’s more that he just sees himself as being in the left tradition, rather than being a philosopher who grounds himself on Marx.

It’s why people get pissed when he makes political points, they are more often then not points he derives from Lacan, rather than Marx, so they seem at odds with what good sensible Marxists ought to believe

>> No.12661163

is Joyce modernist or brodernist and what is brodernist?

>> No.12661166

>>12659737
lol not at all, memelets need to leave this fucking board

>> No.12661182

>>12659655
He's a Hegelian-Lacanian.

>> No.12661320

>>12659681
>gets married twice
Why else would he hate women?

>> No.12662023

>>12659655
crypto-confused

>> No.12662025

>>12659681
he loves pussy

>> No.12662050

>>12660820
really? the books I've read won't shut the fuck up about Lenin and the Russian revolution. In Defense of Lost Causes is Unironic Communism The Book.

>> No.12662057

>>12659719
>and so on

>> No.12662060

>>12659737
>implying Zizek didn't shamelessly appropriate Deleuzian virtuality into his own project
Zizek is deeply influenced by Deleuze, he just hates the C&S series

>> No.12662061

>everything is just something

woah

>> No.12662071

>>12661163
Is Melville a brodernist or a whaleposter and what is a whaleposter?

>> No.12662086

>>12660801
Fucking based

>> No.12663014

>>12659655
I predict Zizek will go through a significant ideational transformation within four(4) years.

>> No.12663728

>>12659663
If this is true I might read his books.

>> No.12663754

>>12661163
Can we take a second to address that the prefix “bro” is dead, let’s just agree it’s over. Women writing snide hit pieces under the guise of intelligent analysis can just let it die. The archetype of the jock doesn’t even exist anymore and just because Chadwick didn’t take you to the prom so you stayed home listening to taking back Sunday doesn’t mean we should all suffer.

>> No.12663767

>>12659655
i dont understand a word he says
he is so annoying to listen to

>> No.12663854

>>12660575
Quite the opposite, he is a strict cartesian with a fetish for post-modern theology, as a self-proclaimed christian atheist. His style and colloquial rhetoric might be a bit jarring but the ideas are modernist through and through.

>> No.12663873

>>12659655
Zizek is Darth Maul duel-wielding Hegel and Lacan while doing impressive (mental) gymnastics but you can't cut him in half because he's ontologically incomplete

>> No.12663884

>Today there are two sins- pedophilia and smoking. And I don't smoke.

What did he mean by this?

>> No.12663931

>>12663884
he is sinless
a christ figure

>> No.12663940

>>12663884
>And, to go even a step further, is the practice of fist-fucking not the exemplary case of what Deleuze called the "expansion of a concept?" The fist is put to a new use; the notion of penetration is expanded into the combination of the hand with sexual penetration, into the exploration of the inside of a body. No wonder Foucault, Deleuze's Other, was practicing fisting: is fist-fucking not the sexual invention of the twentieth century, a new model of eroticism and pleasure? It is no longer genitalized, but focused just on the penetration of the surface, with the role of the phallus being taken over by the hand, the autonomized partial object par excellence.

Read between the lines, zizek fistfucks children

>> No.12663993

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Marxism
neomarxists hate being labeled a neomarxist for some reason though, as they tend to be very finicky about preferred nomenclature.

>> No.12664152

>>12659663
>hates women and black men
Based. who doesn't?