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Post the book or books you’re currently reading

>> No.12602362

>>12602303
the same but vintage edition, I also just got my everyman copy of brave new world so imma read that

>> No.12602417
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This, this edition. 100 pages in currently.

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Finally got around to reading it,got a meme edition
200 pages in and its amazing,info dumps aren't as boring as everyone said they were

>> No.12602460
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good so far

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I read a bit of the actual Metamorphoses, but there are a bunch of small random myths that don't really amount to anything. I'd rather have a fewer number but fleshed out.

>> No.12602472

>>12602362
How are you like farewell?

>> No.12602478
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>>12602303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEEpulUefFc

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German translation of gogols "dead souls"

did i fucked up, by picking the german translation over the english one?

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Just started it. It’s hilarious

>> No.12602498

>>12602417
a legit genius. read "notes from the underground" a couple years ago. fuck 2+2=4

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>> No.12602540

>>12602481
Of you speak English and don’t speak German, then you definitely fucked up

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Haven't read since high school. Better than I remember, probably because I'm a better reader.

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70 pages in, I like it so far

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I'm going to have to cut the spine and rebind it soon

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I found it in one of those 'community library' boxes. Take a book; leave a book set up
Gonna have to cut and rebind it soon

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I found it in one of those 'community library' boxes. Take a book; leave a book set up
Gonna have to cut and rebind it soon

>> No.12602666

>>12602540
well I'm a native german speaker and just feel less of a connection with the mc, when inread a book in english.
I did it with dostoevskis, orwell, huxley, bradbury and mishimas works. Thats why I'm asking, because I really like the book and would consider picking it up in english if the translation from russian is much better

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Picked this up last night while looking for a light read during my work commute. I'm about 160 pages in and will probably finish the rest tonight.

I'm not sure what I think of it yet. The prose is clean but I'm not invested in the work's thematic overtures.

>>12602529
I've been wanting to check this out. How far in are you, thoughts?

>>12602592
This was the story that sold me on Tanizaki's prose for the rest of my life. I haven't read the translation but I hope it does the work justice.

At first didn't fully recognize the translated title but later on I realized why they chose it after a little thinking. The Japanese title is a wonderfully subtle phrase adopted from classical poetry that really suits the heart of the novel, but at the same time it's one of those things that gets lost in translation.

>> No.12602679

>>12602632
>>12602651
>>12602665
Jesus fuck anon

>> No.12602872

>>12602460
me too. i'm getting boners left, right and center from it tho. don't know how to feel about that.

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1/4 in and it's a lot of fun

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Crime and Punishment
The more I read the more I love it.
It’s making me ill, but I love it.

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Almost done. That book can fuck with your brain

>> No.12603072

>>12602498
Just finished Crime and Punishment myself a few minutes ago. Fantastic book. Raskolnikov kind of reminds me of how anons here talk about the Underground Man, do the books have similar focus or nah?

>> No.12603073

The Name of the Rose. William's interactions with Jorge are hilarious

>> No.12603088

>>12602906
Did it start to hit around the 200 page mark for you too? I thought it was good up to then but after that point I started to see the real genius behind it. Maybe I’m just slow on the uptake.

>> No.12603234

>>12603088
It started hitting when Raskolnikov and Porfiry discussed Raskolnikov’s article about killin in the papers. So roughly halfway in, after that, there are so many great moments and twists, it’s unbelievable.
Of course it also helps that I’m mor relaxed while reading it. First few days I forced myself to read X number of pages because it’s actually for an assignment.

>> No.12603237

currently falling for the starting with the greeks meme, this book is actually kind of dull, for about 80 percent of it Akhilleus is nothing but a pouty bitch who gets all his friends killed

>> No.12603262
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Notre-Dame des Fleurs - Jean Genet

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God bless America

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>> No.12603470

>>12602461
is this translated by the same ted hughes that made TWO (2) women killed themselves because he was not gonna dick them anymore?

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finally got around to it

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Rereading My Sweet Orange Tree by José Mauro de Vasconcelos and Rum Diary.

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>>12602303

>> No.12604317

>>12602490
the "no hands" part almost killed me

>> No.12604344

>>12602906
for me that book was torture up until the last bit
it's also the book that swore me off epilogue's forever (WE GET IT you don't have to wrap everything in a fucking bow)

>> No.12604367

This and Notes from the underground.
I'd recommend this book if you like morally fucked up shit like loli sex, teenage prostitution, or killing someone for telling you you can't get it up.

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>>12604367
Holy fuck I'm retarded

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>> No.12605130

>>12604367
>loli sex, teenage prostitution, or killing someone for telling you you can't get it up

Shit it's been sitting on my shelf for 4 years why haven't I read this sooner?

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Had a quite a few laughs so far.

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>> No.12605189

>>12602594
Started reading that after finishing Infinite Jest since Pynchon was such a big influence on Wallace. Only like 20 pages in but it hasn't hooked me yet.

>> No.12605193

Gravity's Rainbow and The Spirit of Science Fiction

>> No.12605396

does this board read the same 100 books?

>> No.12605417

>>12605396
We've got lists for a reason.

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Really liking it so far.

>> No.12605483

>>12604367
one hundred years of solitude sucks. the first 100 pages are decent.

and then it sucks.

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>> No.12605550

POST PICTURES OF YOUR HANDS OR AT LEAST WITH MORE PROMINENT HANDS HOLDING THE BOOK.

>> No.12606532

>>12605550
Fuck off

>> No.12606617

>>12602303
The Island of Dr Moreau. Just started it as part of the H.G Wells collection. I enjoyed War Of The Worlds and The Time Machine. The First Men In The Moon dragged on but had a nice twist at the end.

I have Bram Stokers Dracula and the entire collection of Sherlock Holmes to go through after this. I've been enjoying older books and comparing the writing style of older authors compared to modern authors. Modern writing has become much more "simplified". The onus on the reader to have a large vocabulary is not as common anymore

>> No.12606706

>>12604344
>swore me off epilogue's
read C&P a month ago and same, basically skimmed the last few pages
I wonder if it was a convention that was expected in the times of serialized publication.
The epilogue to Heart of Darkness, when protag is back in england, felt the same boring and useless denouement.

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I know this isn't sffg but reading this right now on a friends recommendation
very enjoyable for genre fiction
the Poet's Tale has some great assessments on poetry and the use of language in general.

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About 200 pages in. Never read Pynchon before.
Still don't know how I feel about it, the Stencil chapters are really overwhelming at times.

>> No.12607430

>>12604344
I just finished reading it, and it was better than War and Peace's epilogue. It was an excellent novel, though I don't agree with some of the message like how Raskolnikov has to repent at the end.

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The Magus. It’s seriously good. Surprised it’s rarely discussed here

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I really love this so far, probably end up being my second favourite from Eco, behind Foucault's pendulum.
What should I read next? I'm torn between The Illuminatus! Triolgy and The Crying of Lot 42.

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>>12607444
Yeah he is pretty underrated here, but some of his work is extremely, for lack of a better word, "British".

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>>12607506
>What should I read next?
If you haven't already read Baudolino and Name of the Rose. Crying of Lot is also great.

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Reading this on /lit/'s recommendation. Great so far.

>> No.12608105

>>12607886
I'm already through with Baudolino and Name of the Rose (both were great). So lot 49 it is.

>> No.12608182

>>12604344
if you ever read pan by hamsun, make sure to read the epilogue

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>> No.12608330

>>12602666
have you read Faust? I'm planning on taking German so I can read it and Nietzsche in German, I was wondering how the prose compares for you in German as opposed to English

>> No.12608380

>>12603237
Yeah the Iliad was a slog for me up until Patroclus dies and Achilles fights the river. I couldn't care less about "X was gouged by spear" times 100, but I really liked the fight between him and Hector. I was touched by how human Hector came across as when he ran from Achilles; after all, who could face a god? Knowing that his wife and family, along with the rest of Troy, are raped and sold into slavery after adds some emotional weight to it too. The Odyssey is much more entertaining of a read, and the ending is great (there's a bumfight scene which is genuinely hilarious)

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>> No.12608519

>>12603470
yes and coincidentally I'm also interested in Plath

>> No.12608543
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Marx is a pretty good writer desu

>> No.12608574

>>12603237
Make sure you look at a number of Iliad translations until you find one you enjoy

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I'm an ebook pleb

>> No.12608762

>>12605550
>>>/soc/

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A virtual mea culpa of sins against american citizens. He admits he, and his kind, are the problem.

>> No.12608910

>>12603419
i'm reading that too - is good, very long

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>>12602303

This. So awful. I think it's supposed to be a modern day Lolita except the prose is shit and it offers very little in the way of deep insights.

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Just read Blood Meridian and Child Of God, needed something easy and light hearted. It's alright.

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I don't understand well but I don't speak 70 languages so I can only get 1/3 words. I don't think I'll ever finish it.
Ulysses was hard but this is next level.

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Oscar Wilde writes in such sweet undertones.love the low-key horror element

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>> No.12610871

Stoner and Call of the Wild by Jack London

Too lazy to take a picture

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>> No.12612113

>>12608543
>Marx is a pretty good writer desu
LOL fuck off queero

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Still on the intro.

>>12608543
This is something people often overlook. His writing style gets a bit more florid in part three, if I remember correctly.

Eventually I'd like to write some "Das Kapital" slashfic where a coat fucks six yards of linen.

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Just started, and already impressed

>> No.12612489

>>12612452
Grimscribe is even better than Songs.

Teatro stories are his peak and one of the best books I've read by burgers.

>> No.12612524

>>12612489
Thanks for the recommendation! Also, burgers?

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>>12602303
Geografie van goed en kwaad - Andreas Kinneging

>>12603445
How is it?

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>> No.12612868

>>12612805
It's very good. Almost finished with it.

>> No.12612889

>>12607000
good to see that you started with the right book

so many dumbasses just jump into GR

>> No.12614317

>>12602303
I am also reading A Farewell To Arms. I like it but I can't push myself to finish it.

>> No.12614342

>>12614317
the ending is well worth it m8

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Stories about Siberia exile in Tsarist times.

>> No.12614891

>>12604370
Not sexual at all

>> No.12614924

Aristotle's On Rhetoric
Is it ok to read it, /lit/?

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Houellebecq writes pretty good Science Fiction

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All 3 books are like 1000 pages total, just finished book two
It's not worth it, lads. I'll finish, but it's not worth it.

>> No.12615871

>>12609447
You can always audiobook it

>> No.12616027

>>12612524
He means Americans.

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Being Poor Sucks: The Novel

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>>12602303
about 1/3 of the way through, really good so far

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>> No.12616689

>>12616686
Noice

>> No.12616696

Henryk Sienkiewicz-Quo Vadis

>> No.12616818

>>12607000
You bought the worst edition off Book Depo, congrats, partly because of the spurious 45% off discount

>> No.12616835

>>12602872
you are not alone, friend

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Halfway through this massive tome from Pringles Man. Would recommend -- more accessible than BotNS, would be a good place to jump in with Wolfe. Also a good way for isekai queermos to up their game a bit.

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>>12602303
Favorite book there.

>>12602432
Love these editions, I've got one for Don Quixote.

My dad got me this for Christmas and I just started reading it, about a 100 pages in. Anyone ever read it before? I think it's really nicely written but sometimes the actual explanations of the philosophies of people seems kinda iffy.

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House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski

>> No.12617383

>>12617319
dem bookmarks

>> No.12617399

>>12617290
I read a little bit of it, I think he trashed Plato on the whole "he likes poets but it's something of a poet himself" thing, but Durant's style of writing is very good

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It's excellent.

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Feels moderately-well executed. Not bad. Not brilliant. Maybe I'm just in a jaded phase.

>> No.12618038

>>12614317
>>12614342

Different anon here, I just finished it yesterday and the ending was "dramatic" sure, but somehow felt off. I don't know why.

I think I expected less milking it from Hemingway.

>> No.12618374

>>12618038
It's not his best book anyway.

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>> No.12618806

Nostromo

>> No.12619049

>>12602460
What an awful cover

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It's actually better than the first one which surprised me since I was originally only planning to read the first one as it seemed the most interesting.

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>>12602303
GK Chesterton - Club of Queer Trades. He's my nigga

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>> No.12619178

>>12619077
I find the first was better written and more interesting. But at the time I read the first I didn't know about the author's questionable integrity so it may have colored my reading

>> No.12619193

>>12619178
>questionable integrity
What are you referring to? I liked the first one too, but I found the beginning and end ~100 pages much weaker than the middle parts.

I'm only 200 pages into Homo Deus so my opinion on it is not final.

>> No.12619204

Didn't wanna make a new thread for this stupid question but can someone gimme a quick easy couple of books to read? Stuff that's like 200 pages and reads easy because it's good.

>> No.12619255

>>12602460
That's such a crappy cover.

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Couldnt find a cheap german translation, so I just got the english one. I hope that wont fuck me over.
I am currently reading Conrads whole bibliography, together with a biography. Got this work, Secret Agent and some short stories infront of me. Almayers Folly was the worst of his works I read til now.

>> No.12619434

>>12619193
The books were written and funded to promote political agendas first and science second.

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>>12602303
being that i haven't the foggiest as to why this ended up on my list i'm going to assume i drunkenly added it after seeing it mentioned here. thanks, it's great

>> No.12619441

>>12602478
the polemic is 11/10 but the recommendations for said insurrection are strictly boilerplate

>> No.12619447

>>12602594
has slothrop gone after the harmonica yet?

>> No.12619521

>>12609447
the trick is to read it out loud in an affected irish accent, ideally in a group

>> No.12619527

>>12602478
Hopefully you're reading it to learn how to fight against this synagogue of Satan.

>> No.12619533

>>12602303
Frankenstein

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>>12602887
my man
i breezed through it in a week last summer. infinitely better than the book

>> No.12619819

>>12619434
Which political agenda? Just by reading them my impression is they seem to be equally harsh on all modern political trends, especially liberalism.

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>>12602303
It’s Oblomov time

>> No.12619968

>>12619049
>>12619255
It's a brazilian translation, so I don't need to explain any further

>> No.12620055

>>12619830
Are you going to read it while laying in bed?

>> No.12620406

>>12605483
wrong

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Currently reading Heart of Darkness and it's kind of a slow burn but I've been enjoying it so far.
Really looking forward to reading pic related next though.

>> No.12620590

>>12620582
Have you seen the film Apocalypse Now?

>> No.12620601

>>12620590
Yeah, I have. That's why I picked up the book in the first place. I wanted to see the inspiration for it, as well as the differences between the two.

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>> No.12620641

>>12620601
If you haven't seen the making-of documentary Hearts of Darkness, I highly recommend it. It's pretty much as good as the film itself.

>> No.12620873

>>12620641
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll have to check it out.

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>> No.12620996

>>12620873
It was made by Francis Ford Coppola's wife, who filmed a whole bunch behind the scenes both before and during the process of making the movie. Francis lost his fucking mind during the production and I don't blame him. It was an absolute nightmare making that movie. On top of being a riveting doc, it adds a whole new level of enjoyment to going back and watching Apocalypse Now.

>> No.12621045

>>12617319
How are you enjoying it so far?

>> No.12621452

>>12619204
>asking a question like this without a provocative picture
you're never gonna get replies that way anon.

anyways, you should check out novellas, perhaps look at lit chart thread or the lit wikia

>> No.12621473

>>12619204
Invisible Cities

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Getting back into fiction. Pretty corny but still moving. Beautiful prose in my opinion.

>> No.12621537

>>12621533
read this afterwards
>>12621473

>> No.12621570

>>12614317
Farewell to Arms is a perfect summation of his overall style where there’s a point you start to wonder why the fuck he’s going on so long about something before he rips you a new one. Try to push through, I found the end very worth it.

>> No.12621599

>>12620977
LOVE Alice Munro. If I should ever have to pick one all time favorite writer it would have to be her.

>> No.12621624

Just started the Divine Comedy, took three cantos to really get started but I'm enjoying it so far.

>>12602482
Great story, Orwell's journalism is top tier. >>12605428
Curious about this one, what's the gist of it? I have read Heidegger extensively but never his lectures on other philosophers

>> No.12621781

>>12602490
favorite book, good choice

>> No.12622521

>>12602490
is that my hand?

>> No.12622651

>>12619204
Any P.G. Wodehouse books

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Thanks for the memes /lit/
>>12602460
Enjoy it while it lasts, it's the best written book I've ever read

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The Count of Monte Cristo, one of my all time favorites.

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Pretty good so far. It’s kind of like reading a weird dream journal.

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I don't read much but I've been trying to get into the habit. The only books I've read out of school are "House of leaves" which I loved and "The pale" king which was hot garbage. I'm on chapter 3 and I love it so far.

>> No.12624082

>>12604288
I think I like the Rum Diary the most out of HSTs books. There is something about it, but its been so long since Ive read it. May give it another go.

>> No.12624087

>>12602303
Hegel's Aesthetics
S. Benhabib Situating the Self

Haven't read spirit.

>> No.12624089

>>12617319
God this book was so good. Thinking about reading it again as a side book but I don't think I'll enjoy it as much.

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finished >>12602482
now on this.

>> No.12624144

>>12624078
you'll continue loving it. East of Eden is phenomenal.

>> No.12624146

>>12602303
He's way too optimistic about America and if alive today would be a /pol/ user and Hitler fan.

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>>12624146
Forgot the book

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This shit is so fuckin good.

>> No.12624569

>>12623341
nice try troll

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Not the version i own but thats what i read.

>> No.12624609

>>12619447
Not this anon, but I am at similiar page in the same edition and that harmonica scene was pretty funny.

>> No.12624857

>>12623911
hi zoomer

>> No.12625151

>>12624569
How is that trolling

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Based Popper

>> No.12626480

>>12609597
I wish mine had that cover. Franz Lizst was so handsome.

~no homo

>> No.12626511

For me, it's Camus' The Rebel
Currently up to The Poets' Rebellion, interesting to see the similarities between classic rebellious ideals

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>> No.12626538

>>12626532
>Nut hamslut

>> No.12626629

>>12626538
that would be Paa gjengrodde Stier

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Its weird but I like it even tho its not his best.

>> No.12627103

>story of the eye
>notes from the underground
Next is lolita or demons. Maybe demons.

>> No.12627147

>>12623473
Last 1/3 sucks

>> No.12627163

>>12612489
Truly enjoy his work. Need to check dat conspiracy nonfic book soon since ive heard good things

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>> No.12627898

>>12627147
How so? I thought it was a good resolution, perhaps a bit long.

>> No.12627919

>>12602303
Pensées

>> No.12627924

>>12602303
good choice op this is my favorite

>> No.12627943

>>12603072
Similar; but not at all the same. Dostoyevsky is amazing at identifying and writing about varying world views. Underground Man does not face the problems Raskolnikov does; nor do they feel or think the same. They have very similar traits, but the overall moral of the two books is very different. Crime & Punishment follows closely to Christianity (Dostoyevsky was highly religious) and the main character is an example of someone who rejects all pieties of christianity and traditional morals. Underground Man is hard to describe precisely; but i’m sure you relate to him as much as i do and know his character well.

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>>12602303
"The name of the Rose"
Read the introduction and prologue so far before bed, so i don't know what to make of it still

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>>12611828
Good book and underrated Roth.

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>>12602303

>> No.12629285

Can someone help me out? A poster on /tv/ was recomending me an author who spoke about culture, film and entertainment called either Baulrand
Baulrid
Ballrind
Ballrand

i don't fucking know and I lost the tab i had open, please help!

>> No.12629291

>>12602303
I've been reading Plato's The Republic for 5 months now, not much else.

>> No.12629304

>>12629285
It was Jean Baudrillard, all good guys.

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>> No.12630234

>>12629291
>for 5 months now
Is it that long? I don't remember it of so much length. Maybe you should drop it?

>> No.12630251

Anna karenina, about 75% done

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It's aight

>> No.12630273

>>12602303
Melville's shorter fiction. My favourites so far are Bartleby and Cock a doodle do

>> No.12630690

>>12612818
Nice choice. I wouldn't mind having a physical copy of that one. What other writings are included in that edition?

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When Nietzsche wept

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>> No.12630956

>>12629434
Hey, I was just about to order this...? Read it before the movie, you know. Liked it a lot. Will I like it again after having watched the movie, like, seven times...?

>> No.12631116

>>12619819
harari is a gay jew

>> No.12631164

>>12629434
The movie was great.

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Why doesn’t anyone on here read contemporary books

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>>12602303
Lee by Tito Perdue

I'm honestly surprised less people on /lit/ talk about this guy. He's said some pretty questionable things politically, but his capturing of the anti-modern reactionary view of the late 20th century (and by extension a window into the 21st century) is incredible.

Lee is at once a violent narcissist, a hopeless brute, a hallucinatory slave to his desires, and someone who makes a strong case against the passive "programming" of personality and meaning rather than slow painful cultivation of it. It's a pretty short read, but I've loved every minute of it so far and am fairly bummed most of his other work concerning Leland Pefley is out of print and damn near impossible to find.

Also, sorry for the blurry image. I can't find a higher resolution copy and am feeling a bit too lazy to walk to my car and take a picture of the book.

>> No.12631391

>>12602490
(((Joseph Heller)))

>> No.12631412

>>12608574
Fagles.

>> No.12631420

>>12611828
(((Philip Roth)))

>> No.12631427

>>12612818
>481 KB
Christcuckery.

>> No.12631448

>>12624138
(((Rosenberg)))

>> No.12631453

>>12626237
(((Karl Popper)))

>> No.12631464

>>12630870
(((Daniel Kahneman)))
(((Silverstein)))
(((Bible)))
(((Haidt)))
Jordan Peterson (shabbos)

>> No.12631473

>>12630876
(((Irvin D. Yalom)))

>> No.12631474

>>12602303

A Farewell to Arms, same as you.

>> No.12631491

>>12612452
>>12612489

I was massively underwhelmed by this book, especially after the insane hyping that this board gives it. There's a few gooduns like the opening story, but most of it is "lol life's pointless, and there's spooky geometry lol, I hate being alive lol"

Like a really shite horror fanfic of Labyrinths by Borges.

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Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo

A bit of a lesser known work but I'm loving it so far, has anyone else read it?

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>>12602303

>> No.12631913

>>12630870
My brother gave me thinking fast and slow lastonth said it was a great read, is it worth it? Thinking about picking it up after I'm done with my current read

>> No.12632037

>>12602594
Reading Bleeding Edge right now as my first Pynchon, am I doing it wrong? Liking the ride so far despite having no idea what the hell is the bigger picture this book is trying to tell at all.

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>>12632037

>> No.12632076

Bump'erino, Al Pacino

>> No.12632081

>>12632076
why bump an active thread?

>> No.12632083

>>12631391
>>12631420
>>12631427
>>12631448
>>12631453
>>12631464
>>12631473
Back to >>>/pol/

>> No.12632091

>>12602417
Only Dostoevsky book i couldn't put down, apart from notes from underground which i read in a day.

>> No.12632134

>>12632091
notes from underground made me wanna kill myself

i read it twice

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Almost done with this mad lad. He led an interesting life and met some heavy hitters (Brecht, Isaac Babel) but he was also a bit of a crackpot with his theory of crowds.
Trying to decide what to read next Augustus by Williams or Julian by Vidal.
Definitely in a Romeabu mood though.

>> No.12632173

>>12632081
Just in case. Been too long in /lit/ already.

>> No.12632255

>>12608471
Wish it talked more about NA natives more. Still pretty a interesting read otherwise.

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Almost finished. This book is fucking wild, might be one of my all time favorite reads

>> No.12632633

>>12602303
I just started the sun also rises not sure how I feel about it, what other Hemingway books are essential

>> No.12632643

>>12632630
nice to hear

purchased a copy a few months ago

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>>12616686
Exceptional taste.

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>>12602303

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>>12602303

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>>12602303

>> No.12632760

>>12632757
*slurps your toes*

>> No.12632783

>>12631913
It's a good read, it has a lot of information on cognitive thinking issues. Considering that we aren't exactly rational beings and such.

I flipped through it quite a bit and read the chapters that caught my attention, but I don't think it's the greatest book or anything. Quite good though.

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>>12621599
yeah she's great, this is my second collection (previously read dear life)

started this tonight, read the first section and it was really enjoyable and i cannot fucking wait to read more

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Gotta love Robert Graves

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This desu, call me pleb. I am the solar anus.

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>>12602303
At first I thought it fucking sucked now I think it just kind of sucks.

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>>12632083
>he doesn't know the entire 4chan is /pol/
go back to r*ddit newfriend
>Pic related, what I currently read

>> No.12633407

I took about a month and a half long break from reading to focus on my job situation, but now I’m back in the game baby.

Currently :
Alhazen - The Optics
John Von Neumann & Oskar Morgenstern- Theory of Games and Economic Behavior
Ptolemy - The Almagest
Alexis de Tocqueville - Democracy In America
Aristotle - On Interpretation

After:
Alhazen - Completion of the Conics (second read through)
Joseph Schumpeter - Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy
Alhazen - On The Configuration of the Universe
Jeremy Bentham - Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation
Aristotle - Prior Analytics

>> No.12633435

>>12633407
what exactly are you reading these texts for? What do you hope to understand?

>> No.12633446

>>12630870
that's a lot of oven dodger /lit/

>> No.12633463

>>12633435
I’m learning a lot more about contemporary mathematics, Game Theory, and just mathematical philosophy and reason from the first two.

I’m interested in economics as well as political philosophy. I’m interested in exchange and the meaning of the different factors. These help with those.

I’m also vaguely interested in Astrophysics, so Ptolemy helps with that, as well as the experience with synthetical geometry. At this point in my quest for knowledge I know more than most about the historical development of mathematics.

>> No.12633498

>>12633463
Do you find that you forget a lot of granular details once you move subjects/topics/books?

I've found this happening to me and thus take notes so that I can fire up the ol' network again with a glance, but also am fearful that this can corrupt future and fresh interpretations, thus I am now thinking about having 2 texts of each book, perhaps 3, one with initial, the next with secondary, and a third for blank slate interpretations.

>> No.12633587

>>12633498
Remembering details is a subject that I feel should be talked about more on /lit/ but is not. It’s the most important thing to reading non-fiction.

I find that Adler’s suggestions of summarization in the back of the book help. Every book has a blank page for this reason, I usually find a summarization of the book is fairly easy. It’s not possible to remember everything from a book, but I do find it easier to focus on specific details in my mind and remind myself the details throughout the day. I’ll also frequently turn back and look over portions of the book I’ve already read.

I try to do syntopical reading: I’ll relate what I’m reading to other things I’ve read and try to make logical connections on a certain issue.

This one is cool: I like finding mistakes. One way I know that I’m really reading well and on top of the text is when I start to be able to find mistakes in the text. If it’s a mathematical work, I KNOW that I am doing a good job. If I find myself being critical of the methodology of explaining things typically that means a bad translation because even mathematicians 1000s of years ago are unbelievably smarter than most people walking around today.

My recent book read was Book V of Alhazen’s Optics l. It’s riddled with errors, and I have annotations all over. Sometimes I only make notes when correcting mistakes.

Sometimes I make notes to try to help understand things. Sometimes both. For Aristotle’s Metaphysics, I believe, due to translation of his own logic, he has made multiple errors throughout the book. I still believe that was one of the greatest books I’ve ever read, and I honestly believe it to be a must read for anyone even vaguely interested in philosophy OR theology.

Mull things over throughout the day. I remember being so immersed in Ptolemy I could pull a diagram from his book and discover things about it throughout the day as I thought about it. After thinking about a diagram for a week, I realized one of the diagrams in The Optics was wrong: it was mistranslated so it had to be reversed. I’m still glad I caught that one.

If you’re mostly interested in philosophy: don’t worry, I’m a philosopher at heart. I always think about the methodology of things when they read them and even the sociological implications of certain scientific teachings on their knowledge. Contextual analysis is key, I’m basically a philosopher scientist. I severely analyze philosophical texts. Sometimes I think I’m too autistic about it, which is how I caught Aristotle’s errors. But I’m not alone: many believe him to be wrong in certain portions. It’s why the translations are fought over so fiercely. So you can what I’m doing with philosophy, astrology, physics, economics, what have you. Just please for the love of god, read NON-FICTION, not FICTION. Plato was right about the corruptability of the soul and fiction does not do your soul good.

>> No.12633669

>>12633587
Hmm, I've thought the opposite. That fiction holds a special relationship with the soul for some, namely leisure. In essence I think you are differing from someone in a quotidian way and are trying to impose your own. Funnily enough, this is pointed out in Pirsig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintainence, a semi-ficiton, semi-autobiography. He explains that as a society we have placed dialectic (and by analogy, non-fiction) over rhetoric (fiction). Thus, we are paying for it with our experience because we are ultimately experiential creatures who experience romantic (Dionysian reality) and classical (Apollonian reality) represented by rhetoric and dialectic respectfully. A balance.

I take this view myself and question that, relatively, non-fiction may hold the same relationship with some that fiction does with others and as long as you are fulfilling that leisurely dynamic with an open mind you are ok.

Do you disagree with that?

>> No.12633694

>>12633669
I think you hold an extremely subjectivized view of the world, at the end of this road is meaninglessness and apathy. You care far too much of what others think and you don’t understand what makes something inherently good.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you had a subjective view of good and evil instead of an objective view of those things

>> No.12633759

>>12633694
Hmm, mind elaborating on why? I take your post as a little hostile, but perhaps that is in response to mine being inflated? Or maybe not. If mine was inflated, I apologize for any offense, I was attempting to provide you perspective on the necessity of fiction, not generalize or sum you up.

I hold good and evil as relationships that are mediated through your values. So in a way, part subjective in how they are applied, yet objective in the sense that people will feel these things inevitably. In essence, they are emotions in part, but I can understand a universality to them.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your opinion that I hold foremost a subjective worldview, I'm just curious why that is bad if I also allow myself objectivity? I am also curious about your reasoning. Maybe I could learn a thing or two.

>> No.12633785

>>12633759
Ah see but this is clearly disorienting your world view. You hold an incorrect stance. And that’s just it: certain philosophies are incorrect to me.

There is an objective evil, and then there is an objective good. And people would discover those themselves over time, if left by themselves or a few others on a desert island for years with no prior religious exposure.

Similarly, there is an objectively correct way to reason and an objectively incorrect way to reason.

>> No.12633829

>>12602665
Read this exact edition, it was my first dosto and I thought it was decent (really like white nights, actually) although I didnt really understand the later stories until I had read brothers karamazov

>> No.12633846

>>12633785
>if left by themselves or a few others on a desert island for years with no prior religious exposure.

Do you believe this carries out across species? Across intelligent species? I assume you would say yes. Would this then mean that there is directionality in evolution?

To share, I think there are different possibilities for good and evil to arise relative to a subject or species, we happened to have a somewhat malleable one based on tribal tendencies. A belief system isn't evil, but an existential threat is. The morality that arises through isolation is in no way objective, it simply means that humans are harmonious. So the natural harmony is good, and intended discohesion is evil?

>Ah see but this is clearly disorienting your world view
My disorientation has no bearing on the weight of my beliefs, can someone feel the same way and not be disoriented? Is this arguing subjectively?

I might be misconstruing your argument, so I apologize if I am, I am attempting to engage it with skepticism.

>> No.12633876

>>12633846
>>12633846
I believe in artificial evolution. I don’t ascribe to natural evolution. I have read Darwin’s book and do not agree.

You seem to think good and evil are based on tribal tendencies, while I understand them to be like shapes: man discovered what an octagon was eventually, even though it was already there. Much like that, man eventually discovered what Good and Evil were.

Natural harmony will follow if all the good Principles of the universe are followed.

>> No.12633968

>>12630234
It's not that long, I just don't read it much and juggle other books too.

>> No.12633972

>>12633876
Is this a formal theory of morality? I.e. platonic forms?

I've relegated good and evil to vestiges of evolution. I've no idea how they developed, but I think the nature of then are as said previously.

The principles idea is interesting, I think you may have me there, though I may be plural in that aspect. In a way, some form of a simultaneous plural and monism? I suppose that doesn't make sense.

>Artificial evolution

Interesting. What's this one? I believe evolution to have been unknowingly guided by culture which is a macrocosm of the family. But I haven't put much thought into this one.

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>>12602303
pretty solid, got it as a present

>> No.12634071

>>12633972
Upon Gods creation of the universe, he created us along with Good and Evil. This should be enough for you in that direction. I personally believe your foray in that direction, if followed steadfastly, will lead to undefinable chaos.

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>tfw couldnt find it anywhere so I'm reading a free pdf of it instead

>> No.12634104

>>12634071
What kind of God. Biblical God?

>> No.12634116

>>12634104
That’s the correct God, yes. However many different religions describe different aspects of this same God. Much like how many different people come to a common notion of what is ‘good’

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I know its more of a /his/ book rather than /lit/

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The Worst Journey in the World. The deadly account of the British 1911 expedition to reach the south pole. The Edwardian Brits were a ballsy bunch. The lunatics marched 70 miles through the Antartic winter in -75F degree weather to collect penguin eggs at one point and it was so fucking cold the author's teeth all died from the extreme cold.

>> No.12634304

>>12634116
How do you view the perversion of this Good by cultures such as the Aztecs who sacrificed virgins, and did other horrible things?

Why did they not produce western good? Is it solely because they had not discovered it yet?

>> No.12634353

>>12634304
Correct

>> No.12634373

>>12633407
Seems like a bad idea to read that many books at once.

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Discusses the ancient origins of psychiatry from Greek speculation on “insanity” to (at the time of writing) modern history of insane asylums

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>> No.12635187

>>12602303
Im writing Last Exit to Brooklyn. Fucking brutal hardcore work. I love hubert selby jr

>> No.12635453

>>12632083
Relax, there's no need to get triggered over facts.

>> No.12635887

>>12634001
Is that a collection, or only Call of Cthulhu?

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it's neat

>> No.12636230

>>12635887
Collection, also has 17 other stories written by him

>> No.12636279

>>12602303
Brodie's report
Good but a bit too plain

>> No.12636296

>>12634001
Very nice.

>>12633355
I know /lit/ has been invaded by /pol/acks, such as myself, for a long time already. On the other hand, I consider those posts are off-topic.

>>12635453
I ain't triggered. Just want a consistent thread. The upper paragraph is also for you.

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>> No.12636341

>>12631511
Yes, brilliant novel. The sense of dread and hopelessness seeps from the pages to your gut. Few novels other than this and C&P can have such effect.

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Should I keep reading it's kinda boring

>> No.12636772

I've been wanting to read the King Arthur stories lately. I'm looking to get Le Morte d'Arther vol. 1 and 2 but I'm curious about how they're broken up. Are they essentially a collection of short stories?
I feel like a brainlet because I essentially just want to read the original english text but I could never find a clear answer as to where to find them.
TL;DR what's the best way to read King Arthur's stories?

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>>12602303

>> No.12636892

I was reading Women by Bukowski but I got tired of it,

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Reading along to the BBC radio play that's up on YouTube.

> country matters

>> No.12637352

>>12636892
Shady

>> No.12637753

>>12636593
You definitely should. It picks up by the end of the second part.
It's a great book. It changed my whole world-view in regards to knowledge.

>> No.12637775

>>12602303
The Divine Comedy. About which I have a small question regarding a part of Inferno Canto III (pardon paraphrase):
"Good souls don't come this way... By the way, take heed of what Charon's speech implies about you."
Is this "You're only not getting got because you're alive" or "Take Charon being a dick as a good sign."?

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>>12636794
I can't do that stuff man. All the other engineers I work with routinely reach language books (and let me stop right there and fully concede that they're better engineers than I am, likely because of tendencies like this). I just can't do it. I program all day, and when I get home I -have- to diversify my interests. I cobble as a hobby. I read pic related. I run marathons... but I just can't read MORE coding stuff on my off time.

>> No.12637963

>>12636230
Not that anon, but which ones?

I'm a big fan of the Color out of Space and Rats in the Walls. Though really, going through all his early works like the White Ship and.... aw fuck the one with the author on the hill... seemed kinda meh until I got to the dream-quest for unknown kadath. That was the first one that really tied a bunch of his world together.

Also recommend reading some Robert Chambers to see some proto- Maddness / Cosmic Horror stuff with his King in Yellow stories.

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Its very well done

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Also reading Tragedy and Hope Carroll Quigley.

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100 pages left, will finish them off before I go to sleep. A really cozy read, sometimes too supernatural/outlandish for my taste but still very good. Next up is probably Kafka's Castle

>> No.12638529

>>12630690
Sorry for a late reply, besides A Confession there's also:
What is Religion and of What Does It's Essences Consist?
Religion and Morality
The Law of Love and the Law of Violence

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Were you niggers pulling my leg when you recommended The Soft Machine? What the fuck even am I reading? 1/4 through and the whole thing has been like this. Dude gets high and runs around south america fucking brown gay boys with no punctuation. Fun as hell to try and read aloud though.

>> No.12638793

>>12602670
Are you reading it in nip?
I wasn't impressed with tanizaki. Naomi pissed me off and I got halfway through his short story collection without being taken in by anything. How's banana?

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>>12637963
Here you go, also just finished it. I know the guy wrote a ton of stuff but this was a satisfying collection, I liked how they all felt loosely connected. Colo(u)r out of Space was actually probably my favourite, personally found it the most disturbing. The Whisperer in Darkness was also really quite creepy. I also enjoyed The Rats in the Walls, since the Cat's name was pretty cool.
Also thanks for the recommendation, I will keep it in mind.

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>>12638771
but seriously it's like /b/ wrote a novel.

>> No.12638982

>>12638771
>>12638930
lmao haven't read this but I did read Naked Lunch and that was enough Burroughs for me. Pretty remarkable how good he is at writing the most fucking nasty degenerate shit imaginable. That book made me feel really gross and I felt like I needed to take a shower after every chapter.

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Haven’t started yet, but will soon. Got it free with my girlfriends amazon prime.

>> No.12639010

>>12638982
I'm a pervert so it kind of turns me on, even when they're all shitting their pants on drugs and having disease ridden orgies. Doesn't mean I actually want to read a novel's worth of the shit. Only part I liked so far has been with the detective.
My god the gay orgies just don't stop. If I hated someone I would send this book to their mother with a card saying it's from them.

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just started it

>> No.12639255

>>12638872
Oh I liked Nyarlathotep too. Good stuff.

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I love the imagery and the relentless awfulness but my god are there too many lazy metaphors and constant use of 'like a...' descriptives.