/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12595231]

How can one country be so devoid of literary talent?

[Anonymous No.12595241]

>>12595231
>not realizing literature is social construct

[Anonymous No.12595289]

>>12595231
>5 lit nobel prizes
>devoid of literary talent

[Anonymous No.12595292]

>>12595289
werent they all germans or jews?

[Anonymous No.12595300]

>>12595292
one jew

[Anonymous No.12595303]

>>12595300
nvm u are right. the other nobel prizes of poland are all by germans and jews

[Anonymous No.12595342]

>>12595231
As a proud Polish person this is an outright fabrication.
I, for example, am an extremely famous, talented and modest writer and poet.

[Anonymous No.12595351]

>>12595231
They need a flag that is capable of inspiring people instead of just being easily recognizable on a battle field.

[Anonymous No.12595360]

>>12595231
While I agree that we do not shine particularily blinding light, and most of our Big Lit is Poetry and Drama, which I am not particularily fond of, I still think we have lots of actually good stuff: My absolute favourite Lem, Gombrowicz, Schulz, Witkacy, Zajdel, Mrożek.

[Anonymous No.12595372]

>>12595292
>>12595303
Huh? Of the 5 laureates, 4 laureates were Catholic Poles, literally just one jew
>>12595351
I agree, they should bring back the Piast eagle

[Anonymous No.12595397]

>>12595372
I don't care, I just wanted to create a Poland bashing thread. Poles are the most boorish and retarded people in Europe. Fuck Poland.

[Anonymous No.12595420]

>>12595231
It's true, I've never heard of any Indonesian literature

[Anonymous No.12595560]

>>12595397

>Poles are the most boorish and retarded people in Europe. Fuck Poland

That's not how you say English. The English are subhuman neanderthals that must be bred out.

>CAMMMMMM ON INNN-GER-LAND!!!! SCORE SAM FACKIN GOALS
CAMMMMMM ON INNN-GER-LAND!!!! SCORE SAM FACKIN GOALS

[Anonymous No.12595666]

>>12595560
I would not like being that guy's liver

[Anonymous No.12595812]

>>12595292
No, one of them was a Tatar (Sienkiewicz)

[Anonymous No.12595834]

>>12595812
>>12595372
>>12595292
>>12595300
>>12595303
They wrote in polish, who gives a fuck about their ethnicity?

[Anonymous No.12595840]

>>12595420
underrated

[Anonymous No.12595845]

>>12595834
>int/poleddit thread
>who cares about ethnicity

[Anonymous No.12595848]

>>12595845
This is /lit/, sweetheart.

[Anonymous No.12595852]

>>12595848
Indeed it is, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12595897]

>>12595834
Conrad wrote in English but Poles will insist on him being Polish.

[Anonymous No.12595923]

>>12595897
To be honest, I didn't have extended faculty from polish in highschool, but while "Heart of Darkness" is dug somewhere deep in the list of lectures, I never had to read it, nor hear anyone claim that outside of /lit/.
I mean, he is pole, but mostly english writer.

[Anonymous No.12595926]

>>12595923
Well, was*

[Anonymous No.12596045]

OP is an ignorant shit.

Read either Zbigniew Herbert or Adam Zagajewski. Or go to fucking /mu/ to make retarded threads.

[Anonymous No.12596056]

>>12595666

Imagine stuffing yourself with 6 fried eggs, 5 sausages, 5 strips of bacon, 5 black puddings, 4 slices of buttered toast, fried tomatoes and mushrooms, and an entire tin of beans for breakfast everyday. And then for lunch shoveling multiple portions of fish and chips down your throat before finishing off with a few deep fried mars bars. Then for dinner, slurping down an authentic British dish, Butter Chicken. Of course you'd look lile that guy. His liver is the only redeeming quality about him.

[Anonymous No.12596062]

>>12596056
Sounds like his liver would make for a great foie gras.

[Anonymous No.12596100]

>>12596062

Would would saute it or eat it....raw?

[Anonymous No.12596104]

>>12595342
Underrated

[Anonymous No.12596220]

>>12595231
There are many countries with less talent in Europe: Portugal, anything east of Germany and west of Russia except for Greece.

[Anonymous No.12596241]

>>12596045
Herbert is amazing. I really love Pan Cogito

[Anonymous No.12596343]

O synu tysiącrublowym

14 lipca 1924 roku, gdy przyszli po mnie czynownicy Ministerjum Zimy, wieczorem tego dnia, w wigilję syberjady, dopiero wtedy zacząłem podejrzewać, że nie istnieję.
Pod pierzyną, pod trzema kocami i starym płaszczem gabardynowym, w barchanowych kalesonach i swetrze włóczkowym, w skarpetach naciągniętych na skarpety - tylko stopy wystawały spod pierzyny i koców - po kilkunastu godzinach snu nareszcie rozmrożony, zwinięty prawie w kulę, z głową wciśniętą pod poduchę w grubej obszewce, że i dźwięki docierały już miękkie, ogrzane, oblane w wosku, jak mrówki ugrzęzłe w żywicy, tak one przedzierały się w głąb powoli i z wielkim mozołem, przez sen i przez poduszkę, milimetr za milimetrem, słowo za słowem:


- Gaspadin Wieniedikt Jerosławski.

show me something more based and beautiful than this, i fucking dare you

[Anonymous No.12596344]

>>12595560
God damn that is insanely repulsive
How do we fix Britain? Is that even possible at this point?

[Anonymous No.12597002]

>>12595342
czesc kapela co tam u ciebie

[Anonymous No.12597009]

>>12595397
>Poles are the most boorish and retarded people in Europe
clearly you have never met a Scot

[Anonymous No.12597015]

Name one author who comes close to this genius, I dare you

[Anonymous No.12597016]

>>12596344
>Is that even possible at this point?
lol no

[Anonymous No.12597040]

>>12597015
Occasionally PKD.

[Anonymous No.12597050]

>>12596220
Portugal has Pessoa and Camões both of which are more than enough to give prestige, specially to such a small country.

[Anonymous No.12597085]

>>12597040
Yeah no. The futurological congress alone contains more new concepts and their impact on society and human relationships than everything pkd wrote.

[Anonymous No.12597172]

>>12595897
noone in Poland claims Conrad is Polish literature

[Anonymous No.12597686]

>>12596344

>is it even possible

Miracles don't happen anon

[Anonymous No.12599004]

And so this is all you have, then.
I was like the linden’s rustle;
Krzysztof was the name I was given,
and my body-so very little.

And up to my knees in the dazzle,
like the saint, I was to bear the Lord across
a river of animals, sand, people,
wading in earth to my knees.

Why such a name for a child?
Why wings shaped in this way, mother?
Why a struggle, father, for such a fault?
The earth wet and bloody from my tears.

“He’ll bear it all,” you thought, mother:
“he’ll name the pain, bring understanding,
raise within me what’s fallen; o flower-
you said-bloom with the fire of meanings.”

Father, it’s hard at the war.
You said in your longing, your pain
for earth: “You’ll not know human scorn,

Why should a child need such faith, and why
a legacy like a house of flames?
Before twenty years have gone by,
life will die in his glittering hands.

And why a mind like a pine-tree, too high
And the crown as the cut trunk crashes?
And how can the road run so straightly,
when the clumsy heart is all ashes?

Mother, I cannot name, the pain is too great,
death strikes too powerfully from every side.
Love-mother, I no longer know if it is;
From far away my flared nostrils smell God.

Love-what will it give firth to-hatred, streams of tears.

Father, I carry my gun in my jacket;
in the dark night I fight while the faiths all fade.
Father-like you-apart from freedom
maybe nothing else matters, or maybe my deed.

Day and night, mother, father, I’ll endure
in the rifle-fire, I, soldier, poet, dust of time.
I’ll go on-this I have from you: I do not fear
death, as I bear desires like burned roses in my arms. - Krzysztof Kamil Baczynski

He was killed fighting in the Warsaw Uprising.

[Anonymous No.12599806]

What's wrong with Lübeck?

[Anonymous No.12599908]

>>12596100
With Fava beans of course. And a nice Chianti

[Anonymous No.12601005]

>>12596343
wtf I like Dukaj now??

[Anonymous No.12601080]

On the day the world ends
A bee circles a clover,
A fisherman mends a glimmering net.
Happy porpoises jump in the sea,
By the rainspout young sparrows are playing
And the snake is gold-skinned as it should always be.

On the day the world ends
Women walk through the fields under their umbrellas,
A drunkard grows sleepy at the edge of a lawn,
Vegetable peddlers shout in the street
And a yellow-sailed boat comes nearer the island,
The voice of a violin lasts in the air
And leads into a starry night.

And those who expected lightning and thunder
Are disappointed.
And those who expected signs and archangels’ trumps
Do not believe it is happening now.
As long as the sun and the moon are above,
As long as the bumblebee visits a rose,
As long as rosy infants are born
No one believes it is happening now.

Only a white-haired old man, who would be a prophet
Yet is not a prophet, for he’s much too busy,
Repeats while he binds his tomatoes:
There will be no other end of the world,
There will be no other end of the world.

[Anonymous No.12601083]

>>12595231

I never understood what the point is of these threads. Are they about books? Just as dumb as the time people posted pics of authors with the question: "Was it autism?"

[Anonymous No.12601095]

I am Brazilian, and Polish poetry is widely appreciated here, only not even more so because there are very few people who translate it, but all poetry readers are familiar with Milosz, Herbert, Szymborska. Lem (haven't read him yet) is also famous, mostly because of Tarkovsky.

[Anonymous No.12601118]

>>12596220
Camoes was, alongside Tasso, the greatest poet of his day, and was admired by such writers as Tasso himself (who wrote him a sonnet), Cervantes (who mentions him in D. Quijote), probably Samuel Jonhson (a friend of one of his English translators), Jorge Luis Borges, Hermann Melville, Ezra Pound, Longfellow, Stendhal, Victor Hugo, Chateaubriand, Harold Bloom, Steiner and many other famous writers.

Fernando Pessoa needs no introduction.

Eca de Queiroz was called a genius by Borges, but most of you have never heard of him. Emile Zola considered him a better writer than Flaubert.

Saramago won a Nobel.

Lob Antunes is seen by many in France and Germany as perhaps the greatest living novelist, or one among the very best.

Galician-Portuguese troubadour poetry is very little-known by foreigners, but it was admired by such people as Roman Jakobson.

The chronicler Fernao Lopes gave us an amazing portrait of Medieval society, and was called the greatest chronicler of all time by Robert Southey.

It's not because you don't know something that it doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.12601234]

>>12595289
Thinking a nobel price is a sign of literary merit hahahaha

[Anonymous No.12601285]

>>12601083
it's just a controversial way to start a literature thread that actually gets replies

[Anonymous No.12601303]

ahh yes....
the Christ of nations
based and evropapilled

[Anonymous No.12601392]

about to read this bad boy, what am i in for?

[Anonymous No.12601426]

>>12601392
Fucking great, although I read it in polish.

[Anonymous No.12601506]

>>12601285

Replies consisting of "No it isn't", why anyone would see this as worthwhile is beyond me. Besides, if the whole board is clogged up in low effort shitposts quality threads are more likely to be buried, further declining the overal quality. Low effort shitposters should be banned.