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What works of literature argue on both sides of this?

>> No.12546772

Phenomenology of Spirit

>> No.12546852

I am genuinely terrified of America and their culture. That such a freedom of weaponry ownership should be combined with such an uneducated, ignorant population. I am terrified at the very sight of the above image. That man is holding what appears to be a gun. Out in the open. And he does not seem like a very conscientious individual, of stable mental constitution. How can the man opposite to him stand there, in such an emboldened pose, knowing his life might end in mere seconds? Absolutely terrifying. I don't want to go to America. I don't like weapons. I want to be safe. I want to be where kind, sane people are. I want kindness. I see it scarcely. Our world is going mad, each year getting worse. I am scared. I want things to become better. But I see nothing that would help bring such a deescalation about. I hope there is a God, a Divine of some kind, and that they bring themselves down and interfere personally. I cannot see humans getting themselves out of the pre-emptive graves we seem to be steadily marching into now.

>> No.12546858

L'Allegro and Il Penseroso

>> No.12546860

>>12546852
get off my lawn faggot

>> No.12546862

>>12546852
Come to Spain

>> No.12546885

The Ego and Its Own

>> No.12546896

>>12546852
Back off...

>> No.12546899

>>12546852
Is this a satire or are yurops really this cowardly in current year?

>> No.12546900

>>12546862
My friend went to Portugal recently. From the pictures he showed me, I was beyond stunned by the beauty of the architecture, the layouts followed by the cities. Such a comfortable and casual elegance, unlike anything found in North America. If Spain is anything like Portugal, since they border eachother, then it must be an absolutely gorgeous place too. Maybe I'll see it someday. Take care my Spanish friend.

>> No.12546909

>>12546899
I'm Canadian.

>> No.12546917

>>12546899
Id rather be considered cowardly than be shot dead any day

>> No.12546939

>>12546852
If you think like that for America, i can't image how much you would be terrify by Mexico.

>> No.12546941

>>12546917
"Better to die on your feet than..

>> No.12546949

>>12546939
Oh I'm very scared of Mexico too. Columbia as well.

>> No.12546956

>>12546939
You can go to jail in Mexico for even having a weapon though, the men here were arrested.

>> No.12546966

>>12546852
>I am genuinely terrified of America and their culture.

this is such a disgustingly american opinion and disgustingly american post. your soul is american. it is property of america.

>> No.12546968

>>12546949
Colombia, you dumb leaf.

>> No.12546984

>>12546968
Don't be mean, this leaf is pretty cool.

>> No.12546990

>>12546949
Maybe it would be a divine realizations to embrace the violence and use and channel it in a way that will put a stop to evil. Clearly the divinities do not intend to do enough to keep this from happening so the responsibility would thereby appear to fall on humanity.

>> No.12547004

>>12546984
Yes but he can't be bothered to write the country's name properly just like any American.

>> No.12547019

>>12546939
>it's not as bad as this other shithole is

>> No.12547034

>>12546968
>>12547004
My mistake. I knew it was named after Columbus, hence I thought it was spelt like his name too.

>>12546984
Thank you.

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>>12546852
We're just getting better anyways. Things might improve if we finish gentrifying the inner cities and enriching the countryside.
>inb4 noo! we don't wont no enrichment, we just wann be let alone

>> No.12547070

>>12547034
I forgive you.

>> No.12547137

>>12547070
Thank you.

>> No.12547169
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12547169

>>12546852
Maybe if disgusting hedonists weren't so degenerate and immoral the upholding of a staunch and belligerent attitude in the face of libertinist lunacy wouldn't be necessary.
Instead they and their handlers constantly threaten peoples' freedoms with their incessant legislative campaigning. There's always some new social justice campaign being created to target ordinary people in a disdainful manner who usually tend to be respectful and non-confrontational toward minority groups. When's the last time somebody poured bleach on an unsuspecting tranny's wig?
https://youtu.be/81oRuCQ0QWc

>> No.12548202

>ctrl+f blood meridian
>0 results
I don't know if I'm proud of or disappointed in this thread

>> No.12548469

What is it about dangerous, stumpy hicks that is so gut-wrenchingly terrifying?

>> No.12548505

>>12548469
Hollywood brainwashing. You surely love niggers of color and beanlets.

>> No.12548508

>>12548469
Because they are still men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk2wBDIKQvc

>> No.12548522

>>12546698
Be should have knocked his old ass out at least before he died.

>> No.12548523

>>12548522
That's kind of the whole point of owning a gun and why he did die you retard

>> No.12548532

>>12548505
Since it’s clearly a slow day intellectually, I’ll answer my own question.
They’re so offputting because they have zero aesthetic value present in their lives. It’s similar to the serial killers who make appalling recipes out of humans, like putting ketchup in human spaghetti.

>> No.12548538

>>12546852
Guns aren't that dangerous.

>> No.12548543

>>12548532
i think you have a meme version of le unwashed redneck in your mind that has nothing to do with reality

>> No.12548545

>>12548532
>all poor white people are subhuman serial killers who's lives aren't worth living
Like I said, hollywood brainwashing. You also again surely love niggers and various other shitlets.

>> No.12548554

>>12548545
No no billy
Not really

>> No.12548559

>>12548554
what did he mean by this?

>> No.12548570

>>12546909
Does canada's only sense of identity come from being the even more soulless neolib version of the United States?
I'm Australian and even i notice how pathetic it is.

>> No.12548571

>>12548532
>their values and lifestyle dont appeal to me so theyre subhumans with no aesthetic value

Neat.

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>>12546909
u single?

>> No.12548580

>>12548523
He could have closed that distance and taken the old man down easily. The young one would have still shot him but if you're not going against well trained and composed killers in many cases disarming is possible. Worth a try at least.

>> No.12548585

>>12548570
there are regional canadian identities. like maritime canadians, the quebecois

places like urban and suburban Ontario are more or less what you describe

>> No.12548587

>>12548580
He did try, it's how he got shot twice. And we he threw the bat like a pussy and got his wig split. He did exactly what you have laid out and he was a 6'4 repeat convict meth head/rage addict. Do you think you would have done a better job?

>> No.12548594

>>12548571
>their values
I’m talking about their absence of values. Not sure if you know this, but the video in question has a father and (presumably 30+ year old) son mow down a guy in cold blood because he wouldn’t let them dump their mattress on his property.
Also, since you all love them so much, I encourage you to go live in any small, poor town for a while and tell me how great they are after that. Be my guest.

>> No.12548597

>>12548587
Yeah because I wouldn't have talked about it for 15 minutes first.

>> No.12548604

>>12548594
I imagine you wouldn't even dream of making a statement like this about certain other demographics. In any case, you don't really know anything about them from this video, or whether they have values, you've just decided in your head that these people are barely human because you're allowed to trash them without getting in trouble.

>> No.12548605

>>12548597
>I would totally attack a drawn gun
t. hollywood brainwashing. You would piss in your pants.

>> No.12548616

>>12546852
Despite your interpretation of the bible, God has no use for cowards.

>> No.12548617

>>12548594
>why yes, I would let my mentally unstable neighbor who screams at his dog each day for 6 hours and sells meth to trash my yard
domesticated bugman

>> No.12548622

>>12548605
Ive had guns drawn on me twice. It wasn't scary. The first time was surreal it took time to react but it was a carjacking and I just drove away. The second time I grabbed the gun out of his hands and beat him with it no shit. He was drunk
Youre the one brainwashed by holywood to think holding a gun gives you ultimate power. Dont pull it out unless you plan to shoot and kill.

>> No.12548630

>>12548622
wow you're so cool just like will smith!

>> No.12548635

>>12546698
Someone post the link to the one with the red filter and the Russian techno beats

>> No.12548636

>>12548604
>>12548604
>I imagine you wouldn't even dream of making a statement like this about certain other demographics.
Yeah, I’m too freaking scared of insulting a large group of people on the internet. You hit the nail on the head — precisely.
>you don’t really know anything about them from this video
Hmm, let’s see. Neither have shirts or shors. Both are obese. Both have weapons. The one grabs his crotch and later does a “wanking” motion...
And — oh yeah, they murder a man in cold blood because he wouldn’t let them dump their shit on his property. It’s dangerous to make assumptions, though.

>> No.12548645

>>12548594
maybe he shouldn't have been a raging retard lol
did the world a favor, looks like you're only butthurt because you identify with the psycho. yikes!

>> No.12548653

>>12548594
Caring about your own property and thinking its ok to personally own firearms are defintely values. Again you dont agree with them, especially this pair of hicks and you painted a much broader stroke than just them in you orignal post. And your second point is a complete non sequitur

>> No.12548655

>>12548636
>he wears a shirt and shoes in his house in 95 degree weather
>he doesn't know what the words in cold blood mean
how can you be this gay

>> No.12548683

>>12546852
I feel more akin to Americans every time I see a cowardly opinion like this

>> No.12548748
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>>12546852
>Absolutely terrifying. I don't want to go to America. I don't like weapons. I want to be safe. I want to be where kind, sane people are. I want kindness. I see it scarcely. Our world is going mad, each year getting worse. I am scared.
my penis retracted when I read this part

>> No.12548948

>>12546852
Your sentiments are over blown but the essence is true. I can't believe that there is a "western" country with such a high amount of literal retards with handguns.
The dude got killed just because none of those mongrels deescalated the situation at all, I really hope the two fat mongoloids rot in prison. It's not like orange guy didn't ask for it but I don't want to live in a world where these two mental midgets get to decide who lives and who doesn't.

>> No.12549005

>>12546852
>I want to be safe.

You're the kind of coward that will sacrifice anything for the illusion of safety but you're never actually safe. So you're left only with an illusion and a meaningless sacrifice.

I'm sickened.

>> No.12549065

>>12548948
>I prefer faceless inhuman beurocracies decide my fate
t. faggot with a big mouth

>> No.12549068

ITT: violence-loving americans justifying why the picture above is totally ordinary and any country which doesn't have such showdowns as a commonplace affair is "weak" and "backwards". it's not normal, guys, especially for the richest country on the planet. guns are also not a substitute for culture, sadly

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>>12549068
>especially for the richest country on the planet
yeah weird

>> No.12549088

>>12546852
fucking leaf

>> No.12549094

>>12549082
that image, oh my. the creativity of the people here will never be exhausted

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>>12549068
>its not normal guys, especially for the place it's normal
what

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>>12548622
>Dont pull it out unless you plan to shoot and kill.
Okay but old man did plan to shoot and kill, and in fact did shoot Texas Orange twice.

>> No.12549168

>>12548605
In reality movies are what probably has contributed to all these instances of unarmed individuals being killed by armed assailants.

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>>12549161

>> No.12549185
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>>12549168
>this instance
>armed "assailants"

>> No.12549193

>>12549168
Yeah I see what you're saying. My original point stands. Guns are the great equalizer and the magical wand of (((holly wood))) hates this.

>> No.12549199

>>12549068
wow its almost like money isn't an absolute signifier of value

>> No.12549206

He should have retreated and torched his house afterwards or something. It's not like the actions that would come to be from either would not risk serious jail time.

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>>12549199
Yeah surely us being the richest and oldest modern nation state on the planet has nothing to do with our inherent laws and character, and we totally won't tear the world down around us when we start to shit the bed. I'll pray for you anon.

>> No.12549262

>>12549217
you've been tearing down the world for the past half century, i think i'll be fine over here in superior beijing

>> No.12549271

>>12549185
I don't what the Texas laws are.
What they sad about not shooting them may or may not have been with good reason.
If they have a stand your ground statute and an open or conceal carry permit then maybe, but if the alleyway isn't their property then they could be accused of unlawful use of a weapon.
The person being threatened with a gun might have as much right to self defense as anyone else, although it might not be advisable. It's not like the video recorded what went on moments before.

For him to not have a right there would have to be some Sweden tier law against aggravating such instances like armed robberies even further.

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>>12549271
They were released originally and then charged later with murder 1 after the viral video with is an egregious overcharge they will never be convicted of in Texas if they go to trial. I would also not be surprised if it has been quietly dropped. I'll have to ask /k/ for their status.

>> No.12549297

>>12549271
*I don't know what Texas laws are

>> No.12549319

>>12549295
>>12549297
If they go to trial 12 of their peers from their town will have to agree they pre-planned killing Texas Orange and that this wasn't self defense to be convicted of murder 1

>> No.12549327

>>12546852
The universe is already perfect. What would you want God to do? Remove death? Remove pain? Remove the intelligence that allows you to think about things in a negative way?

Do you just want to sit around being but unable to comprehend being? And then you can't die so that start never ends. That's hell

>> No.12549342

>>12546852
Certified cuck post. Id rather be surrounded by fetal alcohol syndrome tier lard asses with ar15s than PC SJW, demi-pansexual genderfluid thought-police types.

Also, the redneck on the left is being smart. As a recovering opiate addict and ex drug dealer who hung out in the worst neighborhood (Penn North/Sandtown) in arguably the worst city in the US (Baltimore), I jave gund pointed in my face probably a dozen times and have even been shot at onve (thankfully the niglet missed), the last thing you want to do is act scared OR aggressive. The only option when you have a glock two feet from your face is to act conpletely calm and normal, and dont stutter or appologize or say any stupid shit.

>> No.12549367

>>12549271
>Sweden tier
>You are to suck the niggers cock and not risk your safety and that of those around you (sniggering). Failure to do so will result in prosecution.

>> No.12549378

>>12549217
I hate the american ''intelectual'' that thinks hating america is something cool. It just reeks of trying to get away from your patriotic countrymen you chose to stereotype, just so you can think of yourself as better than them.

>> No.12549381

>>12546852
>:(

ebin epic owned them ebin

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>>12546852
Shut the fuck up, retard.

>> No.12549386

>>12546852
this is so tumblr tier I have no doubt it's bait

>> No.12549394

>>12549386
this desu

>> No.12549410

>>12549386
>>12549394
Nice save.

>> No.12549411

>>12549367
Do they even let the swedes use computers over there? the SIDF against calling out their cuckoldry is non-existent

>> No.12549413

>>12549271
>>12549295
they started the conflict.
they drew weapons on an unarmed man and his family.
big guy was stomping about and making a lot of noise, but it was clear he wasn't going to hurt anybody.
no one needed to die that day; those two were looking to start some shit. maybe they were bored. i would be if i lived in fucking abilene.

>> No.12549416

>>12549410
BASED

>> No.12549420

>>12549068
>implying it's just about culture

It's about giving the people power.
>But the governments got drones and tanks
Yep history shows us people with no advantage but the home ground always lose wars, from the American revolution to the Vietnam war, the bigger government always wins... oh wait

>> No.12549470

>>12549413
>their meth head direct neighbor with a repeat conviction wrap sheet for assault longer than your arm dindu nuffins
They will not been convicted of murder 1 in texas

>> No.12549753

>>12548587
>>12548617
>>12549470
>meth
Some substantiation to this should be provided as there doesn't appear to be any evidence of it. The perceived abundance of social blight in a vicinity doesn't give one the right to behave in a defensive manner with any individual at any given moment. It's not legal to point a weapon at somebody somewhere that isn't your property for something that isn't a threat to your personal safety such as mattress dumping which would be what escalated it into a larger confrontation.
In many places you wouldn't be allowed to shoot someone until they attempt physically intrude inside of a structure that you own. You can't shoot someone for unknowingly trespassing on your field.
Otherwise you could argue that both individuals are entitled to drawing their guns and duking it out in the alley which would sound absurd.

>> No.12549806

>>12548587
>take the side of white man in any confrontation with any social or ethnic minority group
>take side of obese individuals over that of taller more physically fit individual probably because of identifying with them more
rightard trolls

>> No.12549811

>>12549806
the actual side being taken here is the person defending themselves against an aggressor

>> No.12549835

>>12549806
Imagine being this retarded

>> No.12549839

>>12549806
Imagine having meme brain at this level

>> No.12549846

>>12549811
>>12549835
>>12549839
trolltards triggered much

>> No.12549853

>>12549811
Being threatened with a weapon is an act of aggression.

>> No.12549861

>>12546698
I doubt such a work exists

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>>12549853
What are you gonna do about it?

>> No.12549870

>>12549853
The weapon was a reaction to the other guy's behavior

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>>12549846

>> No.12549889

He should have called the police but then the street justice defenders on here will pull the "we know how things are done around here" card.

From mmo-champion forums
These situations always come down to the laws in the state. In my state you cannot use excessive force. So, you can't use a gun if he only has a baseball bat. Also, if you were to be on even ground, you cannot kill someone you yourself provoked unless you retreat into your home and declare peace first; then if they pursue, you can kill them in self-defense. Of course that's hard to process in a fight-or-flight moment.

>> No.12549910

>>12546852
Absolutely disgusting, reprehensible, and unforgivable. You pitiful, putrid, pathetic waste of flesh and glucose are an unsightly burden on the natural resources that your forefathers fought over. The only safety you deserve is that of complete abandonment in an empty desert. Kindness is a social luxury and sanity is a communal farce. Trust this: you are weaker, and by hideous and instinctive reaction to the very same, more stunted and evil than the most reprehensible and calculating killer. Your unenlightened self is a polluting wet smog that should, if you weren't a boneless coward, dampen all hope of your redemption towards anything even approaching the concept of a man.

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12549921

>>12549889
Okay well you're on 4channel so why don't you go try your appeal to authority on /k/ and get BTFO

>> No.12549934

>>12546852
absolutely based

>> No.12549962

>>12549921
Why you don't seem to be btfoing any opinions to the contrary troll lard.

>> No.12549986

>>12546852
everyone thinks i was joking or baiting or trolling or whatever with this, or merely that i'm a pussy. no, i meant every word and if you think it's completely acceptable or even virtuous for so many unenlightened, borderline mentally-handicapped civilians to be wielding weapons then i can only imagine you to sadly be one of them, here defending your own person. weaponry is not culture, and while gun ownership can be a lawful enterprise, scenarios like the above are an example of how backwards your country is, strangest because yours is a first-world country (THE first-world country, literally the wealthiest one on this planet) that in many regards harbors a level of savagery found only in third-world nations. completely bizarre

>>12549934
thanks

>> No.12550006

>>12549161
No he didn't. Miller senior and son didn't have his gun pointed and was trying to diffuse the situation. That roid rage ex con was a danger to himself and others. He said he'd grab the gun and plug him and his son. It was clearly self defense.

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>>12549962
Afraid of /k/ eh little buddy? Sorry newfag but I don't follow offsite links so fuck your forum

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>>12550006
That doesn't mean he didn't mean to use the gun he drew, which he in fact did do. I'm not saying it was wrong. I'm saying anon's tough guy
>don't pull a gun if you don't mean to use it!
Schpiel literally does not apply to this guy. He shot Texas Orange twice.

>> No.12550078

>>12549413
Only the old man was armed initially (concealed) and he only brandished a weapon after meat head charged him. Basically said you can't dump your mattress here, the meat had grabbed a fucking bat and said you picked the wrong guy to mess with old man and walked up to beat him. Instead, the 6'4 lunatic meth head hulks the fuck out threatening to kill both of them and is even more irrate because he doesn't think the old man has it in him to shoot. At this point, the son runs to the house panicking thinking this mad man has a gun of his own and is going to murder both of them. The father walks away and is pursued by the husband and wife until they get to the scene where the illegal dumping took place. The son sees and hears this drug addict criminal scum raving and pointing his bat at his father and goes out with a gun to protect him in case. They are calm the entire time and this batshit sub 100 iq giant continues to push the boundaries. They can't walk away without this idiot clubbing them. They don't even have their weapons pointed at him. The recording begins the moment the bat is set aside because the optics look bad. Too bad for the bitch, the video only proves they were dealing with a complete and totally irrate man with no regards for civility or the law (as also evidenced by his past convictions and illegal dumping). It was self defense and if they weren't armed, the situation would have ended with dad dead and the son beaten to a pulp on life support.

>> No.12550091

>>12550078
Ladies and gentlemen, the defense rests it's case.

>> No.12550097

>>12546852

Very well said my friend, Switzerland or Uruguay would be a nice place for you.

>> No.12550100

>>12550040
>untrained civillians panick when personally attacked
Two shots were warranted. He could have easily survived picked up the bat or turned the gun around on both of them as he clearly said he was going to do in the video. The man was a danger to society.

>> No.12550115

>>12546698
Hans-Hermann Hoppe vs Jack Donovan

>> No.12550128

>>12546698
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

>> No.12550132

>>12546852
onions

>> No.12550137

>>12546852
>>12549986
Is this bait?

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>>12550100
I agree with you anon.

>> No.12550144

Any rational person would just leave. Idiots gonna idiot. So who honestly cares what happens to the idiots?

>> No.12550152

>>12550144
it only matters because there are women watching

>> No.12550153

>>12550144
>any rational person would just leave (their own property(and allow their rageaholic neighbor to trash their land))

>> No.12550154

>>12549921
>>12550022
>go to /k/, hopefully someone there will be able to make an argument because I sure as hell can't!

>> No.12550162

>>12550144
They did leace and he followed the father to the dumpster. Where are they going to leave to already after being pursued? Their house with the wife and kids? What are they going to do? Walk backwards against some lunatic threatening to kill both of them with a baseball bat in his hands? It's impossible for them to have fled safely from that point.

>> No.12550171

>>12549005

Those that would give up freedom for safety deserve neither.

>> No.12550172

>>12550153
Call the council or whatever and let him be fined? IImagine being that territorial over a few square feet of a dried out alley. People like that only drag mankind down into the gutter, let them die or rot behind bars I don't care and you shouldn't either.

>>12550152
Women are grown ups. At least the kids weren't there.

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12550183

>>12550154
What argument? There have already been many made in this thread you retard. I'm not going to your retarded MMA homo dicksucking forum. If you want 200 BTFOs instead of the dozen or so decent posts ITT you can go to the board that made the memes for this event. Stop being a dumb faggot all of your life, or someone might shoot you.

>> No.12550184

>>12550162
>Walk backwards against some lunatic threatening to kill both of them with a baseball bat in his hands?
Death threats only came out after the gun was drawn. Plenty of chance for either party to say "whatever" and just leave, they chose to stay. Stop trying to dissect a confrontation between two cretins.

>> No.12550189

>>12550172
Rural area. There is no council.

>> No.12550192

>>12550189
Then leave it because the whole town is a fucking dump anyway lmao

>> No.12550197
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>>12550172
>women are grown ups
>call the city council!

>> No.12550207

>>12550183
There is no argument. Anon posted a statement from another site in his state the laws are different. You muttered about appeal to authority and then told anon to go to /k/ yo get BTFO.
Fucking pathetic. Your brain has been so rotted by 4chan that you assume every discussion about an event must be LEFT VS RIGHT GOOD VS BAD HUUR and not a simple discussion.

>> No.12550216

>>12550207
That anons reply about his faggot state and his faggot MMA hobby have no bearing at all on anything.

>> No.12550220

>>12550184
Death threats started against them the moment they told the guy to clean up his shit.
They remained calm the entire time. He didn't. They were saying one better than whatever and telling him to calm down and step back. They could not have safely fled without risking roid orange slamming them in the back. It wasn't just a mere threat either but a threat of murder of both individuals. He thought they were chumps and wouldn't defend themselves. He had a history of domestic violence and criminal activity. You can't safely turn your back on that.

>> No.12550236

>>12550216
mmo-champion is a world of warcraft website
what anons on /k/ have to say has no bearing either. you criticize appeal to authority while appealing to authority yourself.

>>12550220
Rational person would have though "okay this is pointless" and said "leave the rubbish there idc" instead of hanging out letting the situation escalate.
Why are you trying to defend the actions of an idiot? Im upset that the police didnt show up and shoot all of them dead.

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>>12550236
>you criticize appeal to authority while appealing to authority yourself.
This is honestly the most retarded board on this entire god-forsaken website

>> No.12550255

>>12550248
Thanks for letting me waste my time, mr shit poster
Not like I have better things to do anyway

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>>12550255
How can you be so stupid and pointlessly bitchy anon? This is depressing. Someone should shoot you and put you out of everyone's misery.

>> No.12550271

>>12546852
America exists in every nation, people, individual, and cell in your body.
You should let go some time. Part of the fun of american football is being part of a line of guys who are going to destroy another line of guys.
You could try it out sometimes, figure us out and appreciate us better but instead you're fucking shutting down and acting like a bitch, going out of your way to misunderstand something. How can you call yourself an intellectual?

>> No.12550272

>>12550265
i come to shit threads like this just to smash on the keyboard
doesnt matter what about i just like to tell people they are wrong and pretend im above all of it

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>>12550272
okay yurostarve

>> No.12550311

>>12550236
They didn't esclate anything. They don't even have their firearms pointed at a guy threatening to kill them.
They weren't hanging out. The father fled to the trash area and was followed. If he was brazen enough to have charged them with the weapons out, he would have seized the opportunity to murder them had they put the weapons down. You cannot shrug your hands to some guy threatening you and say "whatever". If someone with a history of violence and criminal activity is threatening to kill you, they mean it. If they would have turned around, he would have beaten them.
>Why are you trying to defend the actions of an idiot?
The maniac they subdued was a danger to society. You can have idiots in society. I might hate idiots but they don't deserve to die. You can't have raving lunatic meth head steroid freaks with a rap sheet of domestic and criminal transgressions.

>> No.12550409

>>12550311
Proof or bullshit.

A lot of this thread is just tards whining about having the right to shoot somebody whenever possible.

>> No.12550416

>>12550220
>They could not have safely fled without risking roid orange slamming them in the back!
Silly triggertard delusions.

>> No.12550448

>>12550216
>>12550183
I don't have an mma hobby, just saw it as a relevant perspective from a cursory google search. Of course it was too much not to expect for the source of the argument to be attacked rather than the argument itself despite the source having been humbly mentioned in the hopes of establishing an understanding that would have avoided such a thing.

>> No.12550453

>>12549262
>superior Beijing

After the institution of communism the chinks have become progressively weaker. The smartest ones left, the smart ones who remained had their ability to spread their seed diminished. They also deliberately dropped birthrates to half replacement rate for a while and have a unmarried man to unmarried woman ratio of what, 5:1.

>so superior.

>> No.12550471

>>12546852
>Absolutely terrifying. I don't want to go to America. I don't like weapons. I want to be safe. I want to be where kind, sane people are. I want kindness.
I will call you not only a faggot and a cuck but I also reserve the use of any future words which may come to replace them all for you.

It's not like making gun ownership illegal would stop people from carrying guns anyway, all you want is to FEEL safe. Absolutely pathetic post from an absolutely pathetic poster.

>> No.12550482

>>12550453
>only powerful western countries should get away with eugenics

>> No.12550494

>>12550471
Nothing about the post however specifically implied disarmament, but was rather about their inappropriate use by individuals.

>> No.12550519

>>12549295
In December they were indicted for murder:
http://archive.fo/6M3Cp

>> No.12550553

>>12550097
Switzerland doesn't have near the rates of of gun violence in the US
I've lived in U-R gay and it's said to have some of the highest rates of private weapons ownership in the world just below the US. Nevertheless crime is one of the major issues being talked about there and there is also a lot of controversy over laws regulating the employment of a firearm in self defense.

>> No.12550570

>>12546772
*The

>> No.12550631

>>12550553

Uruguay has an overall low crime rate and highest standard of living in South America. Swiss yes has a very high gun ownership rate but low crime. The swiss are not savages like Americans.

>> No.12550637

>>12546966
underrated

>> No.12550652

>>12550519
The US legal system is cucked.

>> No.12550690

>>12550631
>overall low crime rate and highest standard of living in South America.
Yeah that's a meme as much as it sounds because people there are in fact on a more cautious and constant guard against potential criminal threats.
>Every structure having barred windows or fencing
>Cars having to be locked in private garages at night for those without one
>a reported increase in all sorts of crime from extortion, to kidnapping, and individuals being murdered in armed robberies.
The last could just be a smear campaign on the behalf opposition political movements, like happens nearly everywhere in the world.

>The swiss are not savages
'Why' should be the topic of focus though.

>> No.12550698

>>12550652
>outcome doesn't turn out the way I like
>lol cuck

>> No.12550703

>>12550698
>outcome is based on showboating and gunner prosecution looking to generate a spectacle instead of exalt justice

>> No.12550714

>>12550703
evidence of such = inexistent

>> No.12551259

>>12550714
>repeat violent offender with a baseball bat in his hand attacks oldman with no shirt on
>oldman shoots belligerent idiot
>court charges oldman
>court not clearly fucking retarded

>> No.12551314

>>12550097
There are more guns per capita in Switzerland than in America. Just a lot less blacks so a lot less guncrime.

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>>12546852
>I hope there is a God, a Divine of some kind, and that they bring themselves down and interfere personally
I doubt it

>> No.12551366

>>12546852
>I want kindness
>So lets all give our guns to the rogue government that spent the last 100 years terrorising people across the globe

You aren't too bright are you

>> No.12551453

>>12551314
thats not even the half of it
getting a machine gun in switzerland is a matter of filling out a form

>> No.12551470

>>12551453
Switzerland is a meme territory in the middle of Europe with lots of accrued wealth as a historical center of money laundering.
It doesn't have the same kind of history, if any, of slavery, colonialism, and international political involvement the US does. The rest of western Europe is just as Islamic atm.

>> No.12551874

>>12546698

Since nobody posted the link
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9SIw5_1537458941

>> No.12551886

>>12550519
Wow it's a good thing.the post you quoted said convicted huh

>> No.12551905

>>12550519

Jesus christ. Why are so many white Americans so deformed, fat and ugly? Truly the master race guys hail TRUMP!

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>>12546852

>> No.12551932

>>12546852
Thanks, Chaplin

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>>12546852
Perfect depiction of the Last Man
Bravo, anon

>> No.12551964

>>12548570
Real Canadians are not hoplophobic fags. The leaf is supposed to pay tribute to men who fought in the wars.
Most rural folk still have weapons. Also:
https://youtu.be/NMKB-S6IB2w

>> No.12551971

>>12548522
>>12548580
Are you really defending risking one's life over a garbage can?

>> No.12551974

If you own guns you're probably a paranoid manchild

>> No.12552014

>>12551974
If you have a state that protects you with guns you're probably a paranoid manchild. Lmao who needs violence, most people are nice anyway. Umm can't we like just get along??

>> No.12552051

>>12550137
I have no idea why Americans seem to think that people who are appealed by their gun cultures are by default 'anti-gun' cowards. People should be allowed to own weaponry, even military grade shit, so that they don't get fucked by organizations who'd want to control them and can easily kill animals when appropriate. I'd have no problem living like the Swiss where owning a weapon is a duty to be taken seriously.

But the whole attitude where people carry weapons around for 'self-defense', with the expectation that they will need to protect themselves from others who might also be packing heat, is absolutely degenerate and third world tier. It creates a kind of potential hostility and fear of escalation, a temptation to shoot first in case the other guy does instead, that mostly doesn't exist in most civilized nations.

>> No.12552083

>>12551905
Trump never supported that

>> No.12552102

>>12546852
Thanks, reddit-man.

>> No.12552115

>>12550714
>makes simple claim that anyone with logic should be able to follow
>WTF THAT DOESNT MAKR SENSE WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE BRO? IT IS NON-EXISTENT LMAO I WIN
Professing himself to be wise, he became a fool.

>> No.12553243

>>12551974
Imagine being this much of a domesticated pussy faggot
>>12552051
Nobody cares about your or your irrelevant country. We're going to keep shooting your precious niggers, spics, cops, the children of Democrats in their government indoctrination centers, and australian tourist. And you can't do anything about it.

>> No.12553264

>>12546885
This is the only correct response

>> No.12553323

>>12546852
I want to say to you, and to everyone who empathized with your message: The challenge is great, but the human spirit is greater.

With kindness, compassion, understanding and patience we can beat confusion, pride, egoism and all death-affirming belief systems.

Brain-change is possible. It happens everyday. I am talking about simple techniques we can all learn for free with the internet, and use to change the world.

And one more thing: Allowing yourself to fall to despair is the highest form of treason. It is the only form.