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Anonymous Mon Jan 14 21:32:09 2019 No.12409781 [Reply] [Original]

now that the dust has settled, who was in the right here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 21:35:22 2019 No.12409793 >>12409781 >write petulant, retarded drivel >get called out on how immature and retarded it is >"I-I was b-being ironic, b-but not really. Pussy p-power!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 21:36:14 2019 No.12409797 >>12409781 FUCK WARHOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 22:05:53 2019 No.12409901 File: 181 KB, 1440x900, 1527272713548.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >written by a woman any pictures of her feet? otherwise I am not interested

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 22:40:50 2019 No.12410067 >intro by Avital "the raper" Ronell

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 22:51:32 2019 No.12410109 >>12409781 >People are so poisoned by 4chan they don't like the funniest book ever written shame. This book is fucking great

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 22:52:13 2019 No.12410115 >>12409781 NISSAN IS SCUM SCUM SCUM SCVM NISSAN EST SCVM!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 22:56:01 2019 No.12410137 File: 399 KB, 813x850, 1522158790380.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12410109 redpill me on scum gang

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 22:57:32 2019 No.12410145 >>12409781 It was satire, much like Plato's Republic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 23:26:49 2019 No.12410278 >>12410067 [citation required] did you just make that up OP: on the other hand, she shot Andy Warhol, so she was on the right track.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 23:30:07 2019 No.12410288 File: 145 KB, 1158x606, phd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12410278

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 23:36:08 2019 No.12410316 >>12410288 why does it say she's from prague? one of her excuses for sexually harassing that poor grad student was that they were both israeli

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 23:38:22 2019 No.12410329 >>12410316 her parents were Israeli diplomats

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 14 23:38:24 2019 No.12410330 >>12410316 International cabal, as usual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 02:35:40 2019 No.12411176 >>12410288 a woman sexually harassing a student means she laughed at his Zizek t-shirt.

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 09:57:03 2019 No.12412664

>>12410137
It's a manifesto describing a future society where all men will either be executed or allowed to voluntarily turn themselves into MTFs and become sex slaves. Female-only babies will be conceived through IVF and all women will become lesbians

Not even kidding, it's /lit/ as fuck and amazingly written. It's also funny as shit, basically the female American Psycho

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 09:58:05 2019 No.12412669 >>12412664 Also SCUM stands for "Society for Cutting Up Men", don't know if anyone mentioned that yet

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 10:09:22 2019 No.12412730 >>12412664 Idk why you bother anon. Nobody here actually reads radfem lit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 10:10:34 2019 No.12412735 >>12409781 Andy Warhol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 10:11:27 2019 No.12412740 >>12412730 Well they should. Wittig's Guerilleres is good too

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 10:12:45 2019 No.12412750 >>12412730 Nobody here actually reads at all

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 10:18:32 2019 No.12412778 >>12412740 I unironically liked Intercourse. Dworkin actually isn't as batshit as people think she is, makes more sense than most liberal feminists imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 13:26:17 2019 No.12413736 was it satire tho?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 13:29:45 2019 No.12413751 >>12412664 Isn't that what Firestone was unironically advocating for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 13:30:17 2019 No.12413755 >>12409781 I literally can't read this book because I get too horny every time I try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 14:32:14 2019 No.12414011 >>12412664 I'm sure that the actual humor, if it's there at all, is subsumed by Assemblywomen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 14:33:01 2019 No.12414015 >>12409901 She was a cave troll, you don’t want to see them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 14:36:06 2019 No.12414031 >>12413751 Firestone wanted to free women from childbirth through IVF but I don't think she wanted to kill all men

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:03:16 2019 No.12414173 >>12414031 We should kill everyone just to be safe

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:05:49 2019 No.12414185

>>12414031
Firestone was much more lucid than Solanas
>Just as to ensure elimination of economic classes requires the revolt of the underclass (the proletariat) and, in a temporary dictatorship, their seizure of the means of production, so to assure the elimination of sexual classes requires the revolt of the underclass (women) and the seizure of control of reproduction: not only the full restoration to women of ownership of their own bodies, but also their [temporary) seizure of control of human fertility—the new population biology as well as all the social institutions of child-bearing and child-rearing. ... [T]he end goal of feminist revolution must be, unlike that of the first feminist movement, not just the elimination of male privilege but of the sex distinction itself: genital differences between human beings would no longer matter culturally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:06:51 2019 No.12414192 >>12414185 what a delusional fuck

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:07:51 2019 No.12414196

>>12414185
>[T]he end goal of feminist revolution must be, unlike that of the first feminist movement, not just the elimination of male privilege but of the sex distinction itself: genital differences between human beings would no longer matter culturally.

how people like this come to believe this insane objectives? it doesn´t make any sense what she said here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:10:00 2019 No.12414212 >>12414196 can't tell if retarded or have actual criticisms

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:11:50 2019 No.12414223 File: 1.03 MB, 240x135, 1523831563159.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12414212

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:14:35 2019 No.12414240 >>12414196 >doesn´t make any sense the breeding call of the wild brainlet in its natural habitat

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:18:09 2019 No.12414266
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>>12414240
>feminist is so mad that makes up bullshit like abolishing genre differences without taking into account what she´s saying
>stupid anon believing the non-sense she´s saying

who is more retarded here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:20:36 2019 No.12414280 >>12414266 this is /lit/, their trolling the shit out of you. this entire thread is ironic, read between the lines man. I'm leaving now too because it sucks here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:21:37 2019 No.12414287 >>12414280 sorry, 'they're', my bad. I fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:22:14 2019 No.12414290 >>12414266 >implying we haven't watched sex distinction collapsing steadily since the 1960's are you trying to say it doesn't make sense or that you disagree with what she is saying? use your words to explain what your brain is thinking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:23:47 2019 No.12414303 File: 1.78 MB, 265x257, 1525160155825.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12414280 >>12414290 the absolute state of /lit/ 2019

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:26:37 2019 No.12414320 Has the scum manifesto ever been refuted? It perfectly describes male nature, so I can only imagine how difficult it would be to properly criticize it.

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:30:10 2019 No.12414337
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>>12414223
>>12414266
>>12414303
>REEEE I DON'T LIEK THIS
>why?
>REEEEEEEE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE REEEEEE
>what are you trying to say though anon? what is your critique
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF REEEEEEEE

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:38:32 2019 No.12414373
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>>12414337
since you´re butthurted, i´ll explain

>their seizure of the means of production, so to assure the elimination of sexual classes requires the revolt of the underclass (women) and the seizure of control of reproduction

idk in which world she lives in but 100% of western women have choice about wanting to have sex or not, regarldess of reproduction or not, we, the men are at disadvantage here, the woman who we´re courting doesnt like us? we´ll we can reproduce, it´s simple as that

>the new population biology as well as all the social institutions of child-bearing and child-rearing. ... [T]he end goal of feminist revolution must be, unlike that of the first feminist movement, not just the elimination of male privilege but of the sex distinction itself: genital differences between human beings would no longer matter culturally.

what it is that´s so oppresive that she wants full revolution, control over their own bodies? well guess what, they already have that, child bearing? yes, when divorces happens, most of the time the custody of the kids is granted to the mom

are you happy now retard?

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:39:51 2019 No.12414381
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>>12409781
Nobody was in the right morally speaking, but the manifesto's insanity (read it) and the outrageous overreaction to the insanity (feminist and nonfeminist, including op-eds in community papers lmao) are both hilarious, and laughing about it is pleasurable and apparently helps with hypertension. It made my life better, so maybe all's well that ends well.

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:47:20 2019 No.12414418

>>12414373
>100% of western women have choice about wanting to have sex or not
it's not about sex it's about reproduction. she wanted to eliminate the need for women to give birth. you obviously haven't even read the wikipedia page on her before sperging out. this is a sad showing anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:49:49 2019 No.12414433 >>12414418 and what it makes you think that most women would be onboard with this idea? think harder stupid

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:53:25 2019 No.12414453 >>12414433 there is nothing in that passage that implies all women would be onboard with this. when has a political theory ever suggested that everyone will be onboard with it? you're just throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:56:25 2019 No.12414474 >>12414433 Can you name a single reason why we shouldn't phase out males and grow babies in test tubes? Technology has made men completely redundant.

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:58:49 2019 No.12414482
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>>12414453
so you think the state should force women to embrace this idea?

because only the crazy and barren ones would want to reproduce by In Vitro

feminism is a joke

>>12414474
idk, it´s not problem (i don´t want to have children in my life), but forcing a population to do what you only want it´s pretty insane if you ask me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 15:59:03 2019 No.12414485 >>12414474 Firestone didn't want to phase out males, she wanted to abolish gender distinctions between men and women

Anonymous Tue Jan 15 16:01:58 2019 No.12414500

>>12414482
>you think the state should force women
you fundamentally don't understand radical feminism. I'm not even radfem, I just have some sympathies with Firestone's appeal to technological solutions to gender tensions. you are literally just jerking yourself of in the corner rather than actually putting in 15 minutes effort to argue against something you seem to detest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 16:12:56 2019 No.12414561 >>12414485 It's a SCUM thread, frend. Considering males are responsible for most of the violence and crime in the world, phasing them out shouldn't be a controversial idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 15 16:18:51 2019 No.12414594 >>12414561 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect

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