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[Anonymous No.12313614]

>The apocalypse is finished, today it is the precession of the neutral, of forms of the neutral and of indifference. I will leave it to be considered whether there can be a romanticism, an aesthetic of the neutral therein. I don't think so -- all that remains, is the fascination for desertlike and indifferent forms, for the very operation of the system that annihilates us. Now, fascination (in contrast to seduction, which was attached to appearances, and to dialectical reason, which was attached to meaning) is a nihilistic passion par excellence, it is the passion proper to the mode of disappearance. We are fascinated by all forms of disappearance, of our disappearance. Melancholic and fascinated, such is our general situation in an era of involuntary transparency.
was baudrillard right?

[Anonymous No.12313629]

holy fuck he was based, where did he write this?

[Anonymous No.12313639]

certainly sounds right in a general sense but this sort of "ah, well" attitude is disappointing coming from a supposed intellect.

[Anonymous No.12313680]

is baudrillard the blackpill?

[Anonymous No.12313878]

>>12313629
I would like to know as well

[Anonymous No.12313964]

>>12313629
>>12313878
Simulacra and Simulation

[Anonymous No.12313979]

>>12313614
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.12314082]

>>12313614
Is there anyone here who can reiterate what he said about Disneyland? I need it for a job application.

[Anonymous No.12314787]

>>12314082
Disney land is a fake reality covering up that real reality doesn't exist. It is extremely cartoonized, square trees and all of that, no adult behaviour, but what is it really distorting? True reality is one big commercialized Disneyland and is in no way realer with all its shops, reality shows, social networks, superficial behaviour.

[Anonymous No.12314906]

>>12314082
Maybe listen to the philosophize this episode. Think he covers Disneyland too.

[Anonymous No.12314959]

It's a shame he died before social media, digitalization of information, and Amazon really picked up off the ground. He would have had so much to write about them and have a field day. So, who is the present day analog of Baudrillard?

[Anonymous No.12314967]

>>12313614
>>12314787
based
fuck modernity in its rotten ass

[Anonymous No.12315098]

>>12314959
In his final "book" Agony of Power he bellies the rise of an infantilized culture, decrying superheroes and alike, what came out a year after his death? Marvel's Iron Man.

He may not have a modern successor but his essence is crystallized in the works of Fischer, Gibson, Berardi

[Anonymous No.12315297]

where do I start with this guy? what is his most serious work?

[Anonymous No.12315360]

What does he mean by the neutral?

[Anonymous No.12315794]

Bump

[Anonymous No.12315820]

>>12313614
So I know Baudrillard isn't necessarily literal when he talks about simulations, and that what he's referring to is the loss of authenticity and the authenticity of perception, but I still struggle to wrap my head around it. What can I read to learn more about 'authenticity'? I know a lot of other philosophers are concerned with this notion, and I fear I dived too quickly into the deep-end with Baudrillard.

[Anonymous No.12315824]

>>12315297
Simulacra and Simulation

[Anonymous No.12315870]

>>12315098
the agony of power is so good

[Anonymous No.12315889]

>>12313614
>was baudrillard right?
Yes we are truly living in a time "after the orgy" nothing is shocking anymore.

[Anonymous No.12316016]

>>12315889
9/11 was the truly the last "event" which causes one to wonder what could possibly happen that would shape the world (outside of more war) that would have such a visceral impact as that.

[Anonymous No.12316056]

>>12315820
In OP quote he gives you a solid example to get intuition to the idea, that of aesthetics. Ponder about aesthetics for a while to see why we are losing ”authenticity”. A good start in is the evolution of architecture

[Anonymous No.12316500]

Bump

[Anonymous No.12316509]

yes