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Why can't women understand this book?

>> No.12303078

>>12303072
They can’t understand any serious literature.

>> No.12303090

>>12303072
My ex girlfriend thought it was the hottest thing ever written... She was a /pol/ level stereotype of a feminist...

>> No.12303094

>>12303078

Nor can they, in general, write it.

>> No.12303100

>>12303072
The only women who read this book are the mentally ill ones with daddy issues who self-insert as Lolita, and the unimaginative prudes who take personal offence to the subject matter of the book. Either way, they lack any deeper intent - or the ability to understand it.

>> No.12303116

The only girl I've spoken to about this said that Lolita asking to bang first absolves HH of any guilt. She said she didn't self-insert as Lo but I said that she probably self-inserted to it every time she got in the bath. She also didn't react when I said that HH could have made her making the first move up. Actually none of this happened. Ha, Nabokov'd.

>> No.12303120

>>12303078
The more women accumulate the harder it is for them to find a worthy man since the bar keeps getting raised. This works intellectually as well I think.

>> No.12303129

>>12303120
Makes sense. The rare woman who is on a high intellectual level also needs to be attractive and charming in order to get a high level male. Otherwise she would have to become a spinster or settle for a troll.

>> No.12303143

Actually, a lot of women love this book because they love older men.

>> No.12303148

>>12303116
Laughed, good job man

>> No.12303150

>>12303116
lel

>> No.12303152

>>12303143
Liking a book that fits your sexual pathology isn’t the same as understanding it.

>> No.12303228

>>12303116
Well played. Got a chuckle out of me.

>> No.12303236

>You would have to actually talk to women to find out what they think of this book.
>I doubt any of you actually ünderstand this book
>Nothing in this thread but cucks lol

>> No.12303239

>>12303072
They can though

>> No.12303305

>>12303072
What does it mean to understand this book? Is it that complicated? Its a pedo guy talking about his pedoness to a court.

>> No.12303319

>>12303236
>>12303239
>>12303305
>t. w*men

>> No.12303356

>>12303116
nice

>> No.12303387

>>12303072
Oh, they understand it. Just in a completely different way.

>> No.12303403

>>12303305
Not really, a lot of people are retarded and miss obvious things like Humbert being disingenuous and Delores being miserable.
Its all pretty overt, and there's a lot of terrible things besides including loads of overt blackmail and literal rape, drugging etc.
You don't even have to believe that Humbert made things up to know this, there's plenty of instances of him saying that he hates everything about her except her looks (which are fading away) and then he tries to say he loves her.

You are a fucking retard if you don't understand this book.

>> No.12303413

>>12303072
because women aren't pedophiles

>> No.12303414

>>12303072
why can't autists understand women?

>> No.12303418

>>12303413
factually inaccurate lad

>> No.12303492

>>12303414
Women biologically have a high degree of emotional intelligence. Being autistic means that you're emotionally retarded.

You do the math.

>> No.12303571

Reminder that unreliable narrator is a pleb tier hackneyed trope that even Agatha Christie has used

>> No.12303579
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>>12303492
emotions are retarded though.

>> No.12303593

>>12303571
Agathie Christie is based, though

>> No.12303613
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>>12303571
Except the greatest Russian novel of all time utilized it so... yikies!

>> No.12303625

>>12303613
>he doesn't know what hackneyed means
It's a yikes right back I'm afraid

>> No.12303635

>>12303613
>>12303625
please stop destroying our language like this, its not even funny. it wasn't funny. cringe is sort of funny. but, not "yikes!" its just ugly and I can only ever hear a neotenized halfwit faggot with glasses and balding head exclaiming this at someone for pissing him off on the smash subreddit

>> No.12303648

>>12303635
>destroying our language
>uses 'ize'
Yikes

>> No.12303658

>Humbert is a monster for being attracted to a teenage girl
>But let's make literally every single cover of Lolita as sexually suggestive as possible to get people to buy the book

>> No.12303677

>>12303658
heh, based

>> No.12303688

>>12303613
what part of this is uses that

>> No.12303718

>>12303116
this is what i'm here for

>> No.12303746

>>12303116
Oh you mischievous trickster, anonymous!

>> No.12303767

Because women think the media you consume has to reflect you and your political views/personality. It's a badge they put on to show who they are. They need to selfinsert as the characters.

>> No.12304212

>>12303319
Ikr! That's what I said! It's obvious, it's just a pedo, who keeps a girl captive like a pedo. What else is their to get it's not that deep! But yeah people who don't see he's a psychopath are retarded. Ok I get the point of this post, girls dont seem to understand this. Ain't a romance book at all, and they say it's about how you can't choose who you love, but to me i just think humberts a reason execution or life in jail should exist. For him, since he's smart, it should be life in jail.

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Are all men attracted to young women? Or is the fault of the porn jew? This is a serious question. I'm not that old, but I actually believe that women peak sexually at 16 because that's when they're most fertile, and while I understand that these limitations are necessary to protect the naive and defenseless, if all men feel this way, does this mean that men are all monsters? Or that self-control is what makes you a man?

>> No.12304392

>>12303116
Heh heh, gud vun

>> No.12304549

>>12303116

based

>> No.12304667

>>12303116
Quality post right there

>> No.12304670

>>12304255
16 is legal tho

>> No.12304672

>>12303579
>he doesn't have a rich emotional life analyzed introspectively by a rigorous amounto of manly logic and reason
How do I know you are a pleb

>> No.12304677

My ex-girlfriend masturbated to this book (before and while we were dating)

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>>12303767
all humans do this you fucken idiot, apply that same analysis to yourself and you'll see, we're all showing off our persona, when you say, "i like thing" the message is "i identify with this" "this is who i am" you're presenting yourself to the world, like 80% of our communication is us just showing off

>> No.12304729

>>12303116
Bamboozled once again

>> No.12304746

>>12303492
emotional intelligence is a meme.

>> No.12304752

>>12304746
Its not, but it shouldn't be called emotional intelligence, since its not really a form of intelligence and isn't entirely separate from "conventional" intelligence.

>> No.12304755

>>12303571
complaining about authors having unreliable narrators is like complaining that foreshadowing or metaphor are overused, it's not a trick or a trope it's just a device

>> No.12304759

>>12304696
damn

>> No.12304817

This thread was painful, it seems like men can't understand the book and in addition have severe delusions of grandeur

>> No.12304831

>>12304817
It seems like women are whores who like being assfucked and choked by men they're cheating with while abusing their retarded cuck boyfriends emotionally and stealing their time and money all the while decrying nonexistent oppression because their feeble constantly flagging spirits can't cope with competitive, low empathy environments like academia, business, politics or the military. But, hey we have delusions of grandeur and assuming such spiritual, even noble pessimism as the reason for women's stupidity, lack of subtlety, genius, emotionally self possession or courage might be a bit delusional, its probably more just that you're physiologically inferior and has nothing psychologically interesting underlying it.

>> No.12304845

>>12304831
the word 'seething' is often overused but you've really made a case for it here

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12304848

What do you suppose she's reading there?

>> No.12304856

>>12304848
>How to Seduce Older Gentlemen

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>>12303072
>Why can't women understand this book?
Too Freudian

>> No.12304966

>>12304755
>it's just a device
Depends on how it's used. If there are multiple competing voices like Absalom, Absalom, Dracula or The Moonstone it's can work, when it's the whole book as in Lolita or The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd it's a bit of a cheap gimmick allowing the writer to cheat

>> No.12304977

>>12303152
There is literally nothing to understand about this book

>> No.12305067

>>12304966
it's not used for its own sake in lolita, it's used in order to describe humbert's self-image, which is almost more important than humbert's outward personality or the events of the novel themselves

>> No.12305097

>>12303072
if anything its harder for men to understand.
its like it's written solely to entertain pre-teen little girl who dreams a lot about how attractive older men would think they're extremely desirable.
its just that fucking gay

>> No.12305103

>>12305097
m8

>> No.12305177

>>12303116
But Humbert was a liar.

>> No.12305217

>>12304255
>the porn jew
Porn are made by men for men you retard. If youth wasn't a powerful cross-cultural sexual cue for men then it wouldn't ve so popular. It's one of the reason why porn drawn in anile style is so popular, because the women in it are so youthful. One of the other main reason I believe is the big eyes. It exagerates expressions and make the woman seems very honest, which really please men's dicks.

Women consule a relativly low amount of cladsical porn for biological reason. To get a taste of what make them wet, go read some romance novels.

>> No.12305246

>>12303116
what a ruse

>> No.12305356

>>12305217
>go read some romance novels
I would never go that far just to understand women.

>> No.12305440

>>12303072
women are simplistic creature knkynwhen you find iutnwhat drives them but realistixally they find usbton be realistix too

>> No.12305470

>>12303116
okay based

>> No.12305507

>>12303072

Because it's a somewhat challenging novel while still being easy to read on the surface level. It's bound to be misunderstood by people who lack critical thinking skills.

>> No.12305512

>>12303579
emotions may be "retarded" but they are the source of most of our power, so more retarded would be to not use them for your benefit

>> No.12305539

>>12303635
>destroying our language
>implying english is good enough to be even called a language
>neotenized
>extreme misuse of punctuation, capitalization, and quotation marks

You wanna back up there, bud?

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>>12303116

>> No.12305628

>>12303072
women have rhizomatic consciousness and can't understand this shitty liberal drivel. All the better for them

>> No.12305640

>>12304917
Nabokov hated nothing more than freud you fucking idiot. Did you even read the book? The entire thing about "Dr. Blanche Schwarzmann" (parody of what N. sees as freudian black and white worldview) and the part with the girl's school woman who's a total idiot is about ridiculing and critiquing psychoanalysis.

See Humbert's analysis of his situation:
>the moralist in me by-passed the issue by clinging to conven-tional notions of what twelve-year-old girls should be. The child therapist in me (a fake, as most of them are — but no matter) regurgitated neo-Freudian hash and conjured up a dreaming and exaggerating Dolly in the "latency’' period of girlhood. Finally, the sensualist in roe (a great and insane monster) had no objection to some depravity in his prey.

See also Nabokov's obvious hatred for Freud as he can't help but mention in Pale Fire and Speak, Memory (among others)

That said, fuck Nabokov's fucking pretentious trash

>> No.12306014

>>12303072
Women don’t like stories where no character is morally good. They always need some form of hero to connect to and identify with and this novel only gives us varying shades of immoral corrupt and desperately flawed villians. Lo, HH, and CQ were all the “bad guys.”

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>>12303116
You sly dog, I just got Nabokovd

>> No.12306210

What book can they understand?

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>>12303413
This. Why can't some anons just understand.

>> No.12307660

>>12307272
OK, now how many are left if you get rid of the ones that say "It's so hard being a woman"?

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>>12305640
>neo-Freudian
Nothing Freudian to see here; kindly move along.