/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12300400]

Ethically speaking, How is torrenting PDFs any different from using a library?

[Anonymous No.12300411]

It isn't. Film and TV are the only industries that are affected by piracy and even then only marginally.

[Anonymous No.12300412]

shut it down shut it down shut it down shut it down

[Anonymous No.12300424]

>>12300400
It isn't.

[Anonymous No.12300434]

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[Anonymous No.12300438]

Libraries have to buy copies of the books to meet the demand of their readers, thus pumping money into the system. In this day and age, digital copies of books are available for rent from many libraries. They have a set number of licenses that they are allowed to give out at any one moment, which again is determined by a monetary agreement with the publisher.

It doesn't matter if you pirate a penguin book, just like you're not hurting anyone if you download Lady Gaga or whatever. But when you pirate a book from a small press and/or a low-selling author, that does have an effect.

[Anonymous No.12300447]

>>12300400
When using library books they wear out bit by bit, so there is a marginal expense everytime you use them whereas with pdfs there are no expenses

[Anonymous No.12300462]

>>12300438
Said another way, don't ever feel like you've a platform to bitch about the state of the publishing industry and (taking a common /lit/ complaint as an example) the way they focus on non-white women authors writing thinly veiled, absolute garbage pop-feminism when you refuse to pump money into the authors you do care about. In the immortal words of Imperial Can:

>> Don't you know you cast your vote
>> Every day with every dollar

[Anonymous No.12300494]

>>12300447
server rent and site upkeep

[Anonymous No.12300502]

>>12300400
the real question is why you're torrenting pdfs instead of libgening epubs

[Anonymous No.12300528]

>>12300502
Correct on sourcing but wrong on format.
epub is the shit-teir format for screenlets unable to afford the sony digital paper or onyx boox 10-inchers.
PDF is a photocopy of the actual book, presented as intended, with corresponding page numbers to the real deal. epub is plain text garbage generally OCR'd from a PDF and even if you pay for them, are frequently riddled with errors from spacing errors (most notably in dialogues) to chunks of text missing. It also is easy to accidentally to skip a page or two and have no indicate aside from a dubious progress par or percentage.
PDF is god tier.

[Anonymous No.12300558]

>>12300412
What did anime mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12300591]

>>12300528
>accidentally to skip a page
the absolute level of pdflebs

[Anonymous No.12300597]

>>12300591
Easy to do on epub and not realize it because you have no frame of reference for pages. Most PDFs have a page number on every page.

[Anonymous No.12300730]

>>12300597
>and not realize it because you have no frame of reference
none besides syntax, grammar, content, damn son is it really your first time reading finnegans wake, no, even a speedreader keeps track of the succession of ideas
>PDFs have a page number on every page
which you look up every time you turn a pa... nah just lose that item from the list makes you look a fool for having come up with it

[Anonymous No.12300748]

>>12300438
p much this

[Anonymous No.12300763]

I think that a good writer should release his literature for free online.
If he is good, people are going to buy the book anyway.
Gluhovsky released metro 2033 online, and encouraged people to pirate it. No fucks given. If you are doing something for the sake of the art. You dont care.
I am sure that Pynchon for example would rather have a poorfag pirate and read his book than not read it at all.

[Anonymous No.12300774]

>>12300730
Ironic considering epubs frequently have lines of text, somtimes entire pages missing from them.

[Anonymous No.12300917]

>>12300763

>>If he is good, people are going to buy it anyway.
Examples: Metro 2033. The Martian. 50 Shades of Gray.
>>Art

[Anonymous No.12301365]

>>12300763
I think I saw GR for €4 something on bookdepository. How fucking poor are you needing to be to not have that for that

[Anonymous No.12301366]

Am I a brainlet for thinking that society would be better without copyrights? Imagine free information being transferred in an instant; an educated public that could pursue its interests and engage with the full scope of literature without wading through the monetary obligations and trying to surmount otherwise complete obstruction by echochamber academics and age-old publishing houses.

[Anonymous No.12301393]

>>12301366
>an educated public

[Anonymous No.12301394]

>>12301366
if you're american, yes, that is a brainlet notion. because the outcome would be so astronomically outside of your favor that you might as well be shooting yourself in the legs. you'll have to expand your utopian vision to account for that.

[Anonymous No.12301401]

>>12301366
I can see where you're coming from with that but people are inherently evil self-serving douchebags and would take advantage of no copyright and exploiting creators.

[Anonymous No.12301405]

Libraries get more funding if they have more circulation.

t. librarian

[Anonymous No.12301412]

>>12301405
How many homeless people do you have to remove from the free computer access because they're watching porn?

[Anonymous No.12301420]

>>12300774
What you mean by "epubs" is the public domain garbage kobo and others quickly OCR to inflate their store. That's like saying "pdfs" are frequently low quality unaligned scans with unreadable text and entire sections missing, when professionally produced pdfs don't even use pictures for text. Those commercial products also use the same data, and therefore would contain the same mistakes, in all their formats.

[Anonymous No.12301446]

>>12301412
None yet but I have taught the same people how to print multiple times

[Anonymous No.12301975]

>>12301365
In my country the translated version is worth 40 euros. Not skilled enough with the english prose to "get it" right now,

[Anonymous No.12302019]

>>12300400
PDF's are easier to copy.
The difference is marginal.
That being said, I'm still a thief.