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12294215 No.12294215 [Reply] [Original]

There is no point to existence or life. No literature, argument, theory or philosophy can defeat this fundamental, infallible fact. It's all pointless. The struggle, the fighting, the trying; it's all for naught

>> No.12294225
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12294225

oh yeah?

>> No.12294233
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>Jesus answered, and said to her: If thou didst know the gift of God, and who he is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou perhaps wouldst have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
>The woman saith to him: Sir, thou hast nothing wherein to draw, and the well is deep; from whence then hast thou living water? Art thou greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
>Jesus answered, and said to her: Whosoever drinketh of this water, shall thirst again; but he that shall drink of the water that I will give him, shall not thirst for ever: But the water that I will give him, shall become in him a fountain of water, springing up into life everlasting.

>> No.12294237

>>12294233
Amen

>> No.12294238

>>12294215
Have a child then say that.

>> No.12294241

>>12294215
>picture of a nun
derp

>> No.12294278

>>12294238
Procreation is immoral.

>> No.12294280
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>>12294233
>And on the last, and great day of the festivity, Jesus stood and cried, saying: If any man thirst, let him come to me, and drink.

>> No.12294293

>>12294233
>Religion: the ultimate meme

>> No.12294299

>>12294278
>3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
>4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
>5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

>> No.12294303
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>>12294238
that's dumb. If you can't find a purpose for yourself in life that doesn't require you to drag another soul in then we're stuck in this endless paradox of meaningless lives begetting more meaningless lives to give themselves meaning. I'd say it's selfish and irresponsible to have kids until you can find a satisfactory answer/purpose for yourself in life.

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>>12294215
babby's first existential crisis, huh?
everyone knows there is no intrinsic meaning and no one cares, come back when you finish high school

>> No.12294308

sounds pretty gay
stop looking for it and find IT

>> No.12294312

>>12294215
Your thought is incoherent and makes no sense. You're combining two incompatible linguistic expressions, "meaning" and "life", and because you approach the question from that perspective, you become confused t. wittgenstein

>> No.12294346

>>12294299
>Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them
More like stressed and miserable

>> No.12294347

>>12294346
Only because women don't do their jobs anymore.

>> No.12294349

>>12294307
>everyone knows there is no intrinsic meaning
Some people know. Some people suppress it. Some people actually think otherwise.
>and no one cares
Laughably untrue.

>> No.12294351

>>12294215
Life is like a game of minecraft.

>> No.12294352

>>12294215
Yes, and that’s a good thing, faggot.

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>>12294351

>> No.12294486

>Be a child
>Have a meaningful and fulfilling life full of joy and passion, harsh times pass by but it's still good
>Curiosity drives you to philosophy and deeper meanings of things
>Decide to search for the meaning of life
>Have search for meaning instead of meaning itself
This world is structured in an annoying fashion, I'll tell you that.

>> No.12294671

>>12294215
Anyone know the source of that suicide note? I was wondering if their might be a compilation of such things somewhere.

>> No.12294674

>>12294349
by everyone I mean "every male in their 20s whomst browses 4chan"
and yeah, everyone has to accept it at some point and move on

>> No.12294680

>>12294674
If life has no meaning then there cannot be a single correct way of responding to that fact. Religion, suicide, etc. would all be equally legitimate.

>> No.12294684

>>12294674
Also I think you are just engaging in a coping method; by acting like it is beneath you, you can avoid thinking about it.

>> No.12294696

>>12294674
What is meaning tho? If you are wise enough to know that life hasn't any, then you should know what meaning is.

>> No.12294703

>>12294696
Apparently it's something you just have to make up for yourself, a concept which has never helped me at all.

>> No.12294714

>>12294703
But could you define meaning? If not, why do you talk about something you don't know? I'm genuinly wondering.

>> No.12294723

>>12294714
>Don't worry about it bro, I will solve your existential problems with [semantic game]
Don't bother.

>> No.12294734

>>12294723
So the problem is pscyhological and not philosophical. Go lifting idc

>> No.12294742

>>12294734
>Go lifting
lol.

>> No.12294776

>>12294680
they are equally legitimate, except for suicide which is the "perish like a dog" option
>>12294684
aren't all of these legitimate options a coping method too? what's bad about coping
>>12294696
I would say intrinsic meaning is a kind of presupposition imposed on us by society that's supposed to help us cope with life

the problem is that for more introspective, inquisitive people it shatters rather quickly, leading to an existential crisis

>> No.12294785

>>12294776
>which is the "perish like a dog" option
As if that means anything? You have no basis to condemn suicide.

>> No.12294790

What do you mean by "point"? Do you need a reason to live? Why do you feel the need to rationally justify your existence? What would this justification look like?
Your thought is simplistic, vague and unfalsifiable

>> No.12294795

There is no way to rationally justify existing, since not existing is rationally better

>> No.12294806

>>12294307
>everyone knows there is no intrinsic meaning
No, not everyone "knows", you dishonest cod. And Mickey is a brainlet who's not even addressing what Donald says; just says something stupid and acts like tough guy.

>> No.12294818

>>12294785
I have known depression, it's nothing noble, just a disease that makes you suffer
suicide because of depression is just the product of a rotting mind

>> No.12294820

>>12294215
I just assume everything has meaning. It's more humble. I'm not God, I can't decide nothing is meaningful. Perhaps for myself but only myself.

>> No.12294830

Why does there need to be a point other than to have fun while it lasts? Why are you being such a dramatic, prissy little bitch?
>>12294795
Prove it.

>> No.12294831

>>12294703

I'll save you the time and angst: It's not that there IS no objective meaning, it's that there CANNOT be an objective meaning. Meaning can only exist in the context of a value system, which can only exist in a subjective mind.

Think long and hard about the things that matter to you. They are your source of meaning.

If you're going to criticize that as hollow, then you're committing a fallacy by presupposing that hollowness is less valuable than its alternative.

All value is axiomatic.

>> No.12294848

>>12294795
What do you mean? I don't think you can chose between existence or non-existence based on pure logic, sillogisms or measures of the natural world. You can't even frame this using rationallity. Explain your reasoning please.

>> No.12294865

>>12294215
go ahead and kys

>> No.12294898

>>12294818
And? So what if it is? That doesn't create some sort of "moral" value.

>> No.12294926

>>12294215
Yale put on YouTube a full course for free taught by Shelly Kagan
he’s like Constanta—can’t stand him—but an American has to confront this course before an heroing

>> No.12294927

>>12294831
Yeah, this isn't anything new to me. But it doesn't solve the problem. You're just saying, X doesn't exist, so take Y instead. But Y is not a replacement of X which I can value.

>> No.12294931
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>>12294926
*George Louis Costanza
guess it’d be too much to ask Yale to have an appealing prof for its suicide course

>> No.12294934

>>12294215
so what

>> No.12294947

>>12294927
Putting it another way, something being important to me does not confer a sense of meaning to me.

>> No.12294948

>>12294820
>I’m not God
yes, you are

>> No.12295014

>>12294806
Fuck Mickey

>> No.12295018

>>12294898
you wouldn't say dying of cancer is a good solution to life's problems, why do you think dying of depression is any better?

>> No.12295038

>>12295018
>you wouldn't say dying of cancer is a good solution to life's problems
Indeed, I'd commit suicide if I got cancer.
>why do you think dying of depression is any better?
All of life's problems end when life ends. There's no better or worse outside of personal value judgment. What's solved is solved.

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>>12294293
t.

>> No.12295073

>>12295038
I'd say that a happy, fulfilling life is objectively better than dying of disease at a young age. It's true that both end in death, but you may as well try to achieve something while you're here.

>> No.12295074

>>12294215
Retard, I bet you just learned you shoot blanks.
Don't waste anymore oxygen

>> No.12295081

>>12294303
The purpose of life is literally reproducing though?

>> No.12295087

Your soul needs pain to grow for the next dimension, that's why it's trapped in this body on earth for a while. It will all make sense later.

>> No.12295095

>>12295087
What next dimension

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>>12294303
>I'd say it's selfish and irresponsible to have kids until you can find a satisfactory answer/purpose for yourself in life

this is the human logic in full bloom. anon literally cant think of a reason to have kids until he fully understands the complexities of the universe

>> No.12295130

>>12295112
If only everyone did this, then we could finally go extinct.

>> No.12295135

>>12294303
Sure, but at least I got laid.

>> No.12295147

>>12295130
Convince the blacks to do it first. I will re-evaluate your position afterwards.

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>>12294215
Rebel against the absurd condition, motherfucker

>> No.12296065

>>12294238
This is the most boomer post I have ever seen on this website.

>> No.12296072

The “meaning” is to spread our genes.

Didn’t you play metal gear FAGGOT?

>> No.12296157

>>12294215
OK cool... what if idc if there was no meaning

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>>12294215
So? if that's all true then there's no point in all this kind of reasoning, we all are living in this kind of paradox and there's nothing left but to choose as time goes by, for me existential crisis are loops where you do nothing but freeze yourself in the same inner thoughts, just choose to do something, choose how to live (or die) this meaningful pointless life, c'mon is not that hard.

>> No.12296174

>>12296157
you have transcended and eliminated meaninglessness through a double negation and entered into the luminous realm of unknowing

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>>12296072
>*SQUELCH* MEANING OF LIFE *SQUELCH*
>{ERROR!:DOES NOT COMPUTE} <<PANIC!>>
>...................
>..................
>...................
>...................
>...................
><<REEVALUATE>> "MEANING OF LIFE"
><<EXTRAPOLATE>>
>................................
>.............................
>******CPU TEMPERATURE DANGER!****
>....................................
>.....................................
>REFERENCE FOUND, PATH "C://USER/NPC15020530001/SEEK_PLEASURE_DIRECTORY/METAL_GEAR_SOLID"
>...............................................
>{OUTPUT: "The ""meaning"" is to spread genes!}~[CONDITION=TRUE~~~BIOLOGICAL PROGRAMMING *INACCESSIBLE* IS FULFILLED;]
>.................................................
>...................................................
>................................................
>................................................
>{******WARNING CRITICAL SYSTEM ERROR*****}
>.........................................
>.....................................
>{FORCED OVERRIDE; <<FORCE ASSOCIATION; RESOLVE CONFLICT; RECENT CORRUPTED MEMORY BANKS WIPED>>
>..............................
>...................................
>REEVALUATE,
>.........................
>INQUIRIES REGARDING MEANING = BAD!!!!!!!!!!!,
><<OUTPUT>> "Didn’t you play metal gear FAGGOT?"

>> No.12296184

>>12296177
cringe

>> No.12296186

>>12294215
How's sophomore year goin', bud?

>> No.12296195
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12296195

That's a terrible suicide note

>> No.12296199

there's no meaning to life for a retard with an animal brain. smart people have realised the human gives life a meaning. you can become a reproduction machine and spawn 1000 humans and thus you'll have left a massive legacy until the earth is completely destroyed, for example. you have the potential to become the next God.

>> No.12296201

>>12295095
TIME CUBE dimension: 4 earth simultaneous day image

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>>12294215

Creation is literally god's cum

will you have faith that god's cum is the greatest pleasure ever done? or you will perish like a fucking kid? I bet not even death and the afterlife is left alone by god's cum

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>>12296255
>making God in the likeness of man
That's gonna be a YIKES from me.

>> No.12296289

>>12296281

>sexuality is human given

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>>12294795
correct, which is why I have faith

>> No.12296462

>>12296177
npc meme is stupid but in response to „dude genes lmao“ or „muh legacy“ correct for once

>> No.12296493

>>12294280
That's pretty gay, nigga.

>> No.12296634

If you cannot find a point in life you have failed life. Not the other way around.

>> No.12296857

>>12296201
4 corner face
4 corner Earth
4 corner day

1 day God is a lie, don't be educated stupid

>> No.12296890

>>12296857
Children will be blessed for

Kissing Of Educated Adults

Who Ignore 4 Simultaneous

Days Same Earth Rotation.

Practicing Boring ONEness -

Upon Earth Of Quadrants.

Boring Adult Crime VS Youth.

Supports Lie Of Integration.

1 Educated Are Most Dumb.

Not 1 Human Except Dead 1.

Man Is Paired, 2 Half 4 Self.

1 of God Is Only 1/4 Of God.

>> No.12296967

>>12294278
Antinatalists are so obnoxious with their whining.

>> No.12296978

try Buddhism

>> No.12297056

>>12294947

What would?

>> No.12297076

>>12294215
So what? Suicide is also pointless. Just exploit the loophole the universe allowed for in the form of """consciousness""" and get high on that joy while you can.

>> No.12297079
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>>12296255
Creation is literally god's corpse

will you have faith that god's corpse is the greatest putrefaction ever done? or you will not perish as it is meant to be? I bet not even death without afterlife is left alone by god's corpse.

(you know, god kill itself and what is left is its miserable remains. So the humans, as part of that waste, ought to finish the job to obtain the true liberation from the being and go into nothingness as god intended in the begining of time and existence. But well done, cum is a nice idea, you know how so many times the men hanged ejaculated due to muscle contractions and you have the myth of Aphrodite's birth, where she was born from the white “foam" produced by the severed genitals of Uranus that felt to the sea. With Aphrodite being a very good way to represent this lusty, whorish, seductive and unfaithful world).

>> No.12297084
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12297084

Define all of those words

>> No.12297092

>>12297079
Based and Mainpilled

>> No.12297093

>>12296172
Extremely advanced philosopher leaking his power level
unironically

>> No.12297112

>>12294233
yikes

>> No.12297123

>>12294349
there is no such thing as intrinsic meaning or absolutes. but then you grow up and don't care.

>> No.12297139

>>12294215
>There is no point to existence or life.
Translation: there is no point to YOUR life, which is precisely why you feel this way.

>> No.12297188

>>12294225
you were looking for these

>> No.12297288

>>12297123

This. You eventually realize that there are subjective meanings which are every bit as real and valuable (a point you intuit as a child but later start to confuse).

>> No.12297299

>>12294215
Why should I care? I’m enjoying myself and that’s all that I want to do until I die. Not everything has to be depressing and a big deal, anon.

>> No.12297315

>>12294238

>when you become a parent, your brain undergoes certain chemical and psychological processes which cause you to feel certain feelings, therefore those feelings are true

>> No.12297317

>>12295081

Animals doing what they evolved to do is not a "purpose", an "intent".

>> No.12297343

>>12294795

Life isn't a zero sum game, there is no rationality for anything really. Life is meaningless but it doesn't need meaning to be lived and experience. Death is the negation of consciousness and therefore devoid of cognition , experience, love and life. You don't need rationality or a "true" meaning to live.

>> No.12297349

>>12297188
Nice

>> No.12297386

>>12297343

Life isn't meaningless, though. There is plenty of subjective meaning. That's what satisfies us in its living.

>> No.12297398

>>12294215
Embarrassing. I wish we could somehow stop the influx of these dumb teens.
Apply yourself.

>> No.12297449
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12297449

>this thread

>> No.12297464

>>12297188
my nigga you alright

>> No.12297470

>>12296967
People who hate anti-natalists are generally the ones who are just desperately trying to cope/resist the blackpills. They normally lack arguments, like you.

>> No.12297636

>>12294215
mate idfk desu all I know is that for some reason I'd rather live than die

>> No.12297915

>>12294215
What does this thread have to do with literature

>> No.12297926

>>12297915
This is philosophy. Philosophy is literature.

>> No.12297988

Sweaty, just stop. We all know you haven't done the spiritual work of self-inquiry to ACTUALLY feel the eternal void. If you're really that committed on this idea that "nothing matters" then actually commit to it and die the first death.

>> No.12298057

>>12294278
This

>> No.12298066

>>12296967
You only think this because, deep down, you know they're right

>> No.12298100

>>12294215
>There is no point to existence or life
There is no point to nonexistence or death either.
basically we're on our own, make the best out of it.

>> No.12298126

>>12297470
>>12298066
imagine being this kind of virgin

>> No.12298136

all right i'm done with this board

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF2Y-BnqGys

>> No.12298782

Recently took the afterlife christianity pill, a afterlife where everyone just understands, forgive everyone else, and love everyone is just too good

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>>12297188
pathetic you shall know true digits

>> No.12299231

>>12294303
If life has no meaning, why not be selfish and irresponsible? If nothing matters, why not pretend it does? Then it doesn't matter if it's a lie or not.
Oh, that's not satisfying to you? You need to live truthfully? Then maybe start admit to yourself that some ideal is of value to you, namely truthfulness.
Stop being lazy. Adolescent cynicism like what you are expressing is just the renunciation of your responsibility to yourself and others because you think you are too weak to bear it. Perhaps you are. Then kill yourself. But how do you know are?

>> No.12299383

>>12294233
>>12294280
:'(

>> No.12299401

>>12296177
kek

>> No.12299411

>>12297315
>when you post on 4chan about your existential angst, your brain undergoes certain chemical and psychological processes which cause you to feel certain feelings, therefore those feelings are true

>> No.12299437

>>12294280
So he thrusts himself upon the weak because the weak have nowhere else to go.