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Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:20:49 2018 No.12269226 [Reply] [Original]

Where do I start with this man?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:26:39 2018 No.12269266 What philosophers have you read already?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:27:49 2018 No.12269275 >>12269226 Which aspect of his thought appeals to you most?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:28:55 2018 No.12269280 >>12269275 pwning the libs

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:30:50 2018 No.12269298 read the wikipedia pages on deleuze then stay up for 3 days doing speed and smoking skunk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:32:15 2018 No.12269309 File: 64 KB, 300x300, TalkingHeadsRemaininLight.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12269226 with their best album

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:33:39 2018 No.12269322 >>12269309 he doesn't resemble Byrne in any other photograph

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:34:01 2018 No.12269325

>>12269280

In that case, I would start by reading Land's seminal "The Dark Enlightenment". In it, Land tentatively engages with many of Moldbug's insights. It would mark a critical turning point in Land's intellectual development.

http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:34:17 2018 No.12269327 >>12269280 So what's his general theory of human behavior?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:34:58 2018 No.12269334 File: 1.26 MB, 800x3300, WhatDoILand2-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:41:33 2018 No.12269373

>>12269266
Not OP. I've read Plato, Aristotle, Epicurus, Epictetus, Sextus Empiricus, Plotinus, St. Augustine, Boethius, St. Anselm, St. Thomas Aquinas, William of Ockham, Francis Bacon, Rene Descartes, Thomas Hobbes, Baruch Spinoza, John Locke, Gottfried Leibniz, George Berkeley, David Hume, Immanuel Kant, Johann Gottlieb Fichte, parts of Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit, Logic, all of the Philosophy of History, a few works by Marx, all of Nietzsche's major works, and Ludwig Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus and Philosophical Investigations.
Do you think it would be a good idea to read Husserl, Freud, Heidegger, and Foucault prior to D&G?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:45:13 2018 No.12269405 He was ok in Homeland, excels in Billions now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:46:30 2018 No.12269415 >>12269373 The more you read the less you are prepared, I'm sorry

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:49:23 2018 No.12269436 >>12269373 Freud, Lacan, Klein, Artaud, Levi-Strauss for D&G

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:50:00 2018 No.12269440

>>12269334
Wouldn't this whole fucking board go up in flames if one fucking person explained Bataille in a legit and reasonable manner. Bataille is seriously the key to this boards problems, and none will recover from his views. Also, Bataille is fucking retarded for being actually base, and I will go to my grave not understanding him. Is it like sublimation and nihilism combine to produce gods? Or is this just Neitsche-lite, or repurposed Catholicism? Why read The thirst for Annihilation and any of Bataille?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 16:55:23 2018 No.12269472 >>12269373 How many of their works have you remembered and actually understood?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:00:45 2018 No.12269500 >>12269226 Reading Moldbug and Mises will get you to know non-lefty Land well enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:01:49 2018 No.12269503 >>12269373 Moldbug > bunch of commies scribbling over faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:03:21 2018 No.12269509 >moldbug greater than himself What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:04:17 2018 No.12269512 >>12269503 >leftwing Landians read Kant and Deleuze >rightwing Landians read autismo blogs

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:09:47 2018 No.12269542 >>12269512 Moldbug is at least 1-2 standard deviations smarter than Deleuze. And you read Mises when you read Moldbug, which means you are reading Kant by proxy; and Land himself said that the reason to read Kant is to read Mises (Moldbug):

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:15:58 2018 No.12269576 >>12269542 >Land himself said that the reason to read Kant is to read Mises (Moldbug): source? not baiting

Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:17:47 2018 No.12269585

>>12269472
The ones I remember and understood the best were Plato's Meno, Parmenides, Descartes' Meditations on the First Philosophy, Hume's two Enquiries, and Kant's three Critiques.
I have a generally sketchy memory of the rest of them, since I mostly rely on my notes to remind myself of their key points and arguments.
Fichte and Hegel are still pretty fresh in my mind, since I read them less than a month ago, but I wouldn't say I actually took in what they were saying, except in relation to the Pre-Socratics, Plato, Leibniz, and Kant.
The only work I didn't understand back when I first read it, but that made sense when I went back through it was Aristotle's Metaphysics.

When it comes to moral philosophy, or issues related to the way human life ought to be lived, I think the ones I got the most out of were Plato, Epictetus, and Kant. I believe human beings should remain satisfied with the way are and should never attempt to go past their natural limits. Rejecting one's human-ness in hopes of advancing progress or reaching greater processing capacity is an unforgiveable sin in my eyes. For me, truth exists for human minds and human minds only.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:19:15 2018 No.12269599 >>12269542 hes made that claim about everything. according to him the reason to read Kant is to understand Marx, and bitcoin, too. basically Kant explains everything

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 17:28:16 2018 No.12269644 >>12269542 >Moldbug is at least 1-2 standard deviations smarter than Deleuze doubt

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 22 23:31:08 2018 No.12271600 File: 3.17 MB, 4608x2176, 1543271625028.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 00:03:48 2018 No.12271791 >>12271600 I’ve got fanged noumena as well. It basically reads like someone with schizophrenia who read Ligotti and Heidegger interchangeably for six months straight, then let the voices in his head dictate thoughts on paper regarding it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 00:08:58 2018 No.12271831 He's a fun read when you're bored but you shouldn't take him too seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 00:25:38 2018 No.12271939 File: 203 KB, 900x353, moldbug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 00:31:37 2018 No.12271973 >>12271791 >someone with schizophrenia who read Ligotti and Heidegger interchangeably for six months straight, then let the voices in his head dictate thoughts on paper regarding it absolutely based

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 00:43:49 2018 No.12272029 File: 176 KB, 1264x789, EternallyBackTo1985.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12269542 >Mises (Moldbug) Do accelerationists believe their own horseshit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 00:47:10 2018 No.12272045 >>12269226 Kant Foucault Nietzche Mostly D&G

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 01:20:13 2018 No.12272180 >>12269309 Hmm, that Fear of Music cover looks weird

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 01:44:52 2018 No.12272305 >>12272045 >Foucault but why

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 01:51:06 2018 No.12272333 >>12272305 mainly the foucauldian cathedral. also societies of control

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 01:52:38 2018 No.12272344 >>12272333 Wait, are we talking about the Cathedral here, the way Moldbug talks about it? That is to me Moldbug adapting Gramsci and couple others to 2018.. not Foucault though I might be wrong ofc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 02:01:26 2018 No.12272381 Is D&G Deluze and that other guy

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 02:03:57 2018 No.12272393 File: 83 KB, 689x241, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12272381 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 02:06:42 2018 No.12272405 >>12272393 The most important books are always written by a ism guy and that other guy Marx Deluze Plato

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 02:14:16 2018 No.12272441 >>12269440 What should I read of Bataille? I only read story of the eye

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 02:32:23 2018 No.12272524 >>12272441 Don't bother, he's a hack.

Anonymous Sun Dec 23 02:33:31 2018 No.12272530

>>12272441
Just fucking pick a book.
Check Goodreads, check his most read book, that's probably 'pleb' friendly (ie. easy to read relative to his other writings).

> NO VALID CAPTCHA.
> Have to fill five minutes of Captchas for one post.

I'm done with this website actually.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 02:34:54 2018 No.12272537 >>12272405 I had a sincere happy laugh thinking that Socrates was Plato's Engels. I'm gonna promote this concept.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 03:40:18 2018 No.12272752 > unironically reading a peddler of NRx, a deleuzian beat poet.

Anonymous Sun Dec 23 04:25:50 2018 No.12272938

>>12269440

It isn't easy to explain Bataille, but you are close to his main point. Like all philosophers he has a main idea, for Bataille that is sacrifice and the immediate experience.

Bataille's theoretical writings are worth a read even without Land afterwards. He is seriously underrated. His most important works imo are his writings on Hegel and Death, the Accursed Share and on Religion

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 07:29:48 2018 No.12273412 >>12269226 unabomber manifesto, unironically

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 07:39:43 2018 No.12273427 >>12272938 thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 07:43:42 2018 No.12273430 >>12272530 Where will you go?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 08:16:22 2018 No.12273531 >>12269542 I remember watching some debate about prediction markets with Robin Hanson and Moldbug and Moldbug gave the impression of being a complete brainlet there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 08:22:09 2018 No.12273554 In china with drugs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 12:18:24 2018 No.12274266 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 12:46:49 2018 No.12274360 >>12269226 i always think this is ted bundy

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 15:41:59 2018 No.12275086 Bunp

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 15:43:02 2018 No.12275090 >>12273531 Moldbug is sort of a brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 15:46:27 2018 No.12275103 >>12269327 No one ever answers this question when I ask it about these new philosophers!

Anonymous Sun Dec 23 15:57:53 2018 No.12275139

>>12269327
>>12275103
human behavior is so 19th century. we've spent too long exploring the empty subject of the human, we should turn our sights on the autonomous mode of production instead.
(if you really need an answer, Freudian death drive bootstrapped with Neitzsche's will to power)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 16:03:11 2018 No.12275156 >>12269405 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 16:09:46 2018 No.12275182 >>12274360 basically the same person desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 16:13:54 2018 No.12275204 >>12275090 I don't know, I think the insights that: >government can't actually limit itself >AIACC are pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 20:26:05 2018 No.12276462 Bumpo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 23 20:28:50 2018 No.12276477 >>12269327 Get get dick/pussy and Dasein.

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