/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.12268540]

>never did a single thing to help another person, only focused on his own self-centered artistic ambitions and writing his diary
>wrote and complained about his father, a strict but fair disciplinarian, a much better father than many others, ruining his name for the rest of time by having works published crying about him
>told his friend Mac Brod not to publish his works, knowing that he would publish them anyways, solely as a publicity stunt in order to increase his own mystique as a “mysterious genius writer”
>worked an easy part time job from 8:30-2:30, but still complained about not having time to write and “the horrors of bureacracy”
>had a horrible sleep schedule, taking a long nap after work and sleeping at 3am virtually every day
>jacked off to bestiality and hedgehog porn
>blamed all of his unhappiness on “the horrors of modern existence” and “the fundamental guilt of humanity”

Why do we take this loser seriously again?

[Anonymous No.12268544]

>>12268540
>blamed all of his unhappiness on “the horrors of modern existence” and “the fundamental guilt of humanity”
Based

[Anonymous No.12268550]

He's an object of phrenological fascination. Most individuals with such a small forehead seldom make it anywhere in life. This alone makes him a curiosity.

[Anonymous No.12268581]

>>12268540
Because he's a good writer?

[Anonymous No.12268582]

>>12268550
lol

[mărculescu No.12268593]

>>12268581

Elaborate.

[Anonymous No.12268607]

>invented the hard hat
>didn't do a single thing to help another person

[Anonymous No.12268911]

>>12268581
no he’s not

[Anonymous No.12268927]

>>jacked off to bestiality and hedgehog porn
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Especially the hedgehog one

[Anonymous No.12268933]

he was a masochist wasn't he
that's the inherent theme in his books

[Anonymous No.12269031]

>>12268911
Your opinion is not widely held

[Anonymous No.12269050]

>>12268540
>tfw literally Kafka

[Anonymous No.12269060]

>>12268540
He may have been schizophrenic. Most writers are assholes anyway.

[Anonymous No.12269064]

>>12268927
http://forreadingaddicts.co.uk/authors/private-lives-authors-franz-kafka/22215
James Hawes, a Kafka biographer, claimed in his book Excavating Kafka that the writer had an extensive collection of varied erotica and hardcore images. Despite the outrage of German academics who maintain that Kafka’s collection was merely art and illustration, Hawes states that Kafka kept his collection in a safe hidden in a bookshelf therefore must have known it was not for regular reading pleasure.

The illustrations include some macabre images of beastiality, gore, and lesbianism. Spiked hedgehog-esque creatures performing fellatio, naked breasts being clawed at by golems…

[Anonymous No.12269102]

>>12269064
just because he hid it doesn't mean it was for sexual pleasure. It could have just been obscene curiosity, like how you don't want to go advertising to family and friends that you watch bdsm or look at gore threads

[Anonymous No.12269118]

>>12268540
because he wrote weird things
he sucks as a writer though
it would be exciting to write the whole history of his becoming-famous

[Anonymous No.12269147]

>>12269118
Let's see your writing. Let's compare that to Kafka. He's considered to be a great writer. You're opinion of him won't take him down

[Anonymous No.12269152]

>>12268540
Why has the blacklarper not made a vocaroo of Kafka?

[Anonymous No.12269156]

>>12269064
So basically he had a slight furry/gore fetish. That makes him only half as depraved as most of the internet.

[Anonymous No.12269302]

>>12269064
>>12269102
>>12269156

And I feel bad when I jack off to regular porn.

[Anonymous No.12269378]

>>12269147
For sure he'll be fine. I'm unable to build up a story anyway.

[Anonymous No.12269560]

>>12268540
>Why do we take this loser seriously again?
His books are great

[Anonymous No.12269590]

He sounds accidentaly egoists, based.

[Anonymous No.12269619]

>>12268540
his writing is genuinely good, he just had major daddy issues

[Anonymous No.12269630]

>>12268540
Focus on the writing, not the person. What are you? Some burger with cult-of-personality syndrome? You want to make a celebrity out of every writer?

[Anonymous No.12269819]

>>12269590
excuse me

[Anonymous No.12269871]

>>12268540
he cute

[Anonymous No.12270093]

>>12268540
OP, I appreciate your original thinking here. Not merely bandwagoning onto esteemed artists of past. Your points are well-put. It makes me sad knowing Kafka may not have been a kind person, since I considered him to be a sensitive soul. I don't know, OP. But perhaps he wasn't that great a person. The animal-stuff is especially disturbing. Good thread. That said, his work can still be appreciated, even if not his person.

Funnily enough, it also gives hope to anons here that they may become great artists even in spite of their "degenerate" fetishes.

[Anonymous No.12271071]

>>12269560
no they arent

[Anonymous No.12271106]

>>12268550
>/lit/ is becoming so fucking pseud there starting to bring back 18th century skull measuring

[Anonymous No.12271155]

>>12269102
People who watch bdsm do so for sexual pleasure you dingus

[« ƸЖƷ » No.12271179]

>>12271071
The Castle was great.
What’s your favorites?

[Anonymous No.12271232]

>Post shitty kafka hate post on lit
>kafka rises from the dead and teleports behind op
>kills him

[Anonymous No.12271240]

>>12268550
really makes you think

[Anonymous No.12271251]

>>12271232
now that's what i call kafkaesque

[Anonymous No.12271297]

Peasant teenagers on /lit/ hardly have an appreciation of literary classics, it’s quite grating and saddening. Kafka is so appreciated because of the way he skillfully writes surrealistic stories. He’s unique amongst surrealist writers because of his realist’s penchant for details and descriptions, giving an uncanny effect by rationally, lucidly, and thoroughly describing characters living in bizarre worlds and responding to strange situations. He also deftly mixes a unique brand of comedy into these (often) nightmarish, oppressive scenarios. Just in terms of his impact on modern culture, aesthetics, and thought, he deserves to be recognized as a genius for deeply tapping into the modern-day archetype of the irrational, inhuman, frightening bureaucracy in the unique way leading to the famous word “Kafkaesque”.

For the small band of devoted occultists, mystics, and magicians here, too, it’s a wonderful fun fact that Kafka confessed to the mystic Rudolf Steiner that he occasionally had clairvoyant episodes, and wrote in his diary that he had “bouts of clairvoyance”. It’s interesting to consider, in the light of this, the ways Kafka’s works were supposedly prescient of the upcoming Nazi state in Germany and of the Holocaust (which he died shortly before the onset of, and which his sisters were killed in). Google “Kafka clairvoyance,” unless you’re a stupid peasant or a retard Christian who doesn’t want to believe in that stuff. Spooky!

I actually don’t like Kafka VERY much, I just hate the people who shallowly criticize him when they will never write anything as archetypal, iconic, and haunting as his greatest works or greatest moments in these works, or even anything as absurdly/darkly amusing.

[Anonymous No.12271321]

>>12271297
nice

[Anonymous No.12271340]

>>12271106
>there

[Anonymous No.12271431]

>>12271340
It wasn't always like this?

[Anonymous No.12271440]

>>12271297
what a shallow, pseudy understanding of Kafka. You have no idea why Kafka is a good writer.

[Anonymous No.12271443]

>>12271297
Well said

[Anonymous No.12271451]

>>12271440
Please, wise sage, share your deep understanding of the man in as many lines

[Anonymous No.12271454]

>>12271106
It would be interesting to see if something from it could be mined and empirically validated.

[Anonymous No.12271474]

>>12268540
>Why do we take this loser seriously again?
We don't. Kafka is for edgy teen NPCs who soak up jewish propaganda and internalize subversive jewish cultural messaging. Dude was a shit writer too.
>muh oppressive father
>muh oppressive system
>rebel, goyim, rebel!
You have to be a primo loser not to see through the shtick.

[Anonymous No.12271504]

>>12271474
Take it to /pol

[Anonymous No.12271519]

Kafka’s writing that borders on political and human, mundane and fantastical ambitious but restrained, shows a final rebel. A rebellion against logic and reality. Against the notion that matters of work, random on wee and bureaucracy must be considered unimportant and not be given the weight of horror or phenomena

[Anonymous No.12271531]

>>12271474
>actually engaging with the writing and forming a sophisticated opinion
Programmed npc, no original thoughts
>seeing Jew and immediately dismissing ideas you find scary
Brilliant. Very free thinker

[Anonymous No.12271540]

>>12271519
Also well said

[Anonymous No.12271543]

>>12271519
>A rebellion against logic and reality.
The jew in a nutshell.

[Anonymous No.12271563]

>>12271474
He never advocated for rebellion, quite the contrary. Nice try but clumsy use of the jewis conspiracy meme.

[Anonymous No.12271717]

>>12271531
> engaging and forming opinions when jewry is clearly about

Found the brainlet

[Anonymous No.12271735]

>>12271563
>Conspiracy

[Anonymous No.12271817]

He gives me Sminem vibes

[Anonymous No.12271952]

>>12268540
Drew this a while ago, I think you will appreciate it OP. Stuff about Swedish boys’ legs, carnival girls and neck slicing fantasy is all true btw, taken from “Kafka: The Poet of Shame and Guilt”

[Anonymous No.12271981]

>>12271952
based, my friend

[Anonymous No.12272000]

>>12271440
My post wasn’t the most excellent and in-depth, it was just meant to give an overview some reasons Kafka is regarded as so impressive and admired by literary critics. While I admit my post didn’t give the best explanation of why Kafka is a good writer, and I was actually dissatisfied with it after writing it but still posted it anyway, I at least made some effort in writing it. You, on the other hand, have made no effort at all besides shallowly criticizing my post. Therefore, you are a retarded and useless douchebag and I happily anticipate your upcoming death so that such a useless nonentity as yourself can stop the burdening the planet with your smug and unhelpful criticisms.

[Anonymous No.12272078]

>>12271297
>>12271440
To slightly add more to my post, I would also say that the way he makes multivalent allegories/ symbolism is also quite impressive. He manages to fuse in single stories, plots, situations, ideas etc existential/religious, psychological, and political ideas. For instance, his constant motif of characters facing strange, looming, sometimes terrifying, and incomprehensible large bureaucracies (the court in The Trial, the castle in The Castle) simultaneously can be used to examine the relationship between a person and a state/bureaucracy, a child and their parent(s) (or father, as the famous psychoanalytic interpretation of Kafka would go), the person before God/the angelic hierarchy, or just the plight of the modern existentialist before the apparent arbitrariness of the world and elusive nature of meaning, being unable to understand destiny, etc. To have so many possible and interesting meanings equally contained in a story is a pretty respectable feat. This isn’t to suggest his greatest stories are mere allegories — in containing so many different possible meanings, they go beyond just being allegories, to creating images/archetypes/symbols which are compelling in and of themselves without necessarily having to represent something else. I think his most evocative creation in this respect is the concept of the castle, the mysterious people who work at the castle whom the land-surveyor K. can never quite fully get in touch with or understand or win over.

I’m just riffing here. Not meant to be the deepest literary interpretation.

[Anonymous No.12272141]

>>12268550
I have a fuckhuge forehead why am I a neet dropout

[Anonymous No.12272163]

>>12269156
>>12269064
>>12268927
Sounds disgusting. I fap to cuck porn and occasionally watch one or two dog/girl or horse/girl videos but I would never stoop so low. Mine is pure misogyny while those guys must have closet homo tendencies

[Anonymous No.12272216]

>his most happy time was his few months in the country
>he could have married a cute village waifu and lead a quiet happy life
Why couldn't he disengage from his father's chains bros? He chose death over emancipation

[Anonymous No.12272321]

>>12270093
based honesty-poster

[Anonymous No.12273341]

>>12271952
based

[Anonymous No.12273402]

>>12272321
based acknowledgement-poster

[Anonymous No.12273428]

>>12271106
You're the pseud buddy

[Anonymous No.12273433]

>>12271952
based beyond based, overbased

[Anonymous No.12273442]

>>12271952
based indeed

[Anonymous No.12273445]

>>12268540
>Why do we take this loser seriously again?
we don't?

[Anonymous No.12273506]

>>12272163
>I masturbate to horses and dogs fucking girls but that's normal, unlike that sicko Kafka and his hedgehog porn

[Anonymous No.12273517]

>>12270093
Most writers haven't been that great persons.

[Anonymous No.12273568]

>>12272141
You are not using your genius

[Anonymous No.12273576]

>>12273517
And it's absolutely laughable that someone could be so ignorant about the JQ to think a kike could have a sensitive, kind soul lmao.

[Anonymous No.12273603]

>>12268550
based and 19th century redpilled

[Anonymous No.12273624]

>>12268607
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.12274584]

>>12268540
>hedgehog porn

[Anonymous No.12274716]

literally /our/guy

[Anonymous No.12274853]

>>12274716
No kike is "our guy," guy.

[Anonymous No.12274880]

>>12268550
excellent point

[Anonymous No.12275650]

>>12269064
he was /our/ guy

[Anonymous No.12275663]

>>12271474
he just wanted to be left alone and play vidya like us anon

[Anonymous No.12275862]

>>12268927
>>12269064

[Anonymous No.12275869]

>>12271474
he wasn't a real jew.

[Anonymous No.12275925]

death of the author, etc etc