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Harold Bloom reads NYRB classics, something as eclectic as Georg Christoph Lichtenberg. What's 4chan's excuse for disliking NYRB now?

>> No.12242086
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Here is the video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfSQtdCypPM

>> No.12242097

1. of course he does, you want certain books, they're only being published by nyrb - that's their whole mission, to publish what was out of print or previously untranslated, etc.

2. 4chan dislikes nyrb? why on earth?

>> No.12242098

>>12242085

He also likes Nortons and I see a Penguin (Gongora's Solitudes).

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>>12242098

Forgot pic. Apparently his favourite books aren't put away on the shelves. He just keeps them stacked around for easy access.

>> No.12242108

>What's 4chan's excuse for disliking NYRB now?
Because you keep shilling it non-stop, retard.

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>>12242097
This used to make the rounds a lot and it gets responses like this
>>12242108

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he also likes library of america (see black books with the red/white/blue stripe in the background)

>> No.12242123

>>12242116
Nice. Library of America has quite a lot in them, don't they? Sadly, my American Literature course only had awful shit like The Road, Kavalier and Clay, etc. and we didn't do any proper American Lit

>> No.12242125

>>12242085
https://twitter.com/nyrbclassics/status/989936687928274952
Reminder that they browse and probably post on lit

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>>12242115
>>12242125

>> No.12242128

>>12242097
>4chan dislikes nyrb? why on earth?
Only meme lords. They make cool covers so people think they're just for decoration rather than serious reading. Fuckin fags. I get my books off book depository so I'm always stoked when it arrives and has a cool cover. Have a few nyrb.

>> No.12242131

>>12242123
>Kavalier and Clay
Good fucking Christ

>> No.12242135

>>12242123
yeah, there's a lot of volumes - but they've lowered their standards in recent years - just get the 19th century guys

>> No.12242136

>>12242131
The final "text" to be studied by the class was decided by the best final essay on any American text. It turned out to be some drag queen movie.

>> No.12242138

>>12242136
JUST

>> No.12242151

>>12242085
Bloom is a meme, nobody takes him seriously here

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>>12242085
Since when does /lit/ dislike NYRB? A few years ago we used to have actual NYRB threads where we posted interesting books only published by them.

>> No.12242170

>>12242168
>Since when does /lit/ dislike NYRB?

when it got popular

>> No.12242177

>>12242125
>they
You mean whichever intern they charged with running the twitter? The type of people who run those SM accounts are always early 20 something nerd interns who think they're clever. I highly doubt anybody with responsibility at NYRB browses this place.

>> No.12242180

>>12242151
I unironically fantasize about being his son

>> No.12242291

>>12242180
In a sexual way?

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Oh I keep it next to my desk too at all times I am also an Indian :)

>> No.12242354

>>12242342
Indians are mega-brained and one of the Oldest of civilisations. What are your thoughts on Indian literature on Harold's list?

Ancient India (Sanskrit)
Mahabharata
Bhagavad-Gita
Ramayana

India (in English)
R. K. Narayan - The Guide
Salman Rushdie - Midnight's Children
Ruth Prawer Jhabvala - Heat and Dust

>> No.12242449

>>12242354
>Indians are mega-brained
Amazing how the mega-brained are still shitting on the streets.

>> No.12242456

>>12242354
>>12242449

The megabrians are Indian emigrants who realize Indinia's a shit country and leave.

>> No.12242458

>>12242449
Philosophy > plumbing

>> No.12242470

>>12242127
based

>> No.12242477

>>12242354
You know Sanskrit was an Indo-European language and that Indians today speak an Indo-European language as well, right? That's because the highest are the rape babies of Aryan conquerers who came through 5000 years ago, which is from whom all that culture comes.

>> No.12242485

>>12242477
The alphabet comes from Phoenicians and Aramaic, who were Semitic.

>> No.12242501

>>12242485
>The alphabet comes from Phoenicians and Aramaic
No, it doesn't.

>> No.12242502

>>12242485

He's talking about a language, and then you mention the roots of the alphabet the language is commonly written in. What's your point?

>> No.12242503

>>12242501
Where does the alphabet )as a technology) come from?

>>12242502
How is language going to be written down and culture preserved without an alphabet?

>> No.12242508

>>12242103
That's sexy.

>> No.12242519

>>12242503
Sanskrit's alphabet is not semitic, which is an entirely different language family. I've never heard that before and a cursory glance of Wikipedia says you're wrong as well, so provide evidence or stop being a liar.

>> No.12242520

>>12242151
How to read and why, is a fantastic book.

>> No.12242525

>>12242503

1. Obviously a language isn't going to be written down without an alphabet. Can you cease with the tautologies and get to the point?

2. How do you think culture was preserved before writing? Have you heard of oral tradition?

>> No.12242532

>>12242519

You're confusing language with alphabet. The Brahmi script is from Aramaic. He's right, but it's just not relevant what the roots of an alphabet are.

>> No.12242545

>>12242503
Greeks

>> No.12242548

>>12242532
In this instance or over all? Writing systems bias certain types of meaning.

>> No.12242551

>>12242519
>The Phoenician alphabet, called by convention the Proto-Canaanite alphabet for inscriptions older than around 1050 BC

All alphabets are semitic, since it was a technology taken from that region. Greeks literally changed the Phoenician alphabet to be their own and dropped lots of "sounds" (letters) while adding their own. I remember Martin Puchner discussing this in his book, "The Written World: The Power of Stories to Shape People, History, Civilization" which you should read
>>12242545


>>12242525
How would you know about Homer if it wasn't written down? Oral tradition is fine but it's why you don't even know about indigenous/African stories and "literature."

>> No.12242559

>>12242551
Here is a video for the people who don't wanna buy the book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7sFJ84A014

>> No.12242597

>>12242551
>How would you know about Homer if it wasn't written down?

How would I know about a person who wrote down a previously existing story if he hadn't written down the previously existing story?

Or do you mean 'How would you know about the Odyssey and the Illiad if Homer hadn't written them down?' In that case; how did Homer know about them?

>but it's why you don't even know about indigenous/African stories and "literature."

The reason I don't know about it is because I didn't bother to read up on it. Quite a lot is known about African mythologies.

>> No.12242604

>>12242115
It is too painstakingly obvious that the NYRB marketing team posted that thread and then passed it down to the PR guy

>> No.12242618

>>12242597
>mythology is literature
Where is an epic poem from Africa? I know they were bound to have one over so many years. But they just didn't bother to write it down. Even Indigenous Australians have "stories" they can recite for fucking ages with memory alone. Lots of them use similar tricks like in Homer where lines are repeated (for Homer, "dawn appeared fresh and rosy-fingered") as a repeated line to allow for remembering or pause. I only knew this from going to a museum display on indigenous culture, and we only knew about it because someone filmed a lady doing it some decades ago. If it were written down centuries ago, it'd probably be seen as a work of literature now.

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>doesn't use a computer but writes entirely by hand in massive notebooks
Comfy.

>> No.12242637

>>12242629
Not even my grandma can text properly and she is at least 20 years younger than Bloom. Based Silent/Boomers.

>> No.12242668

Who hates NYRB? They highlight lesser-known but great works that get ignored by the big publishers

>> No.12242676

>>12242618
Don't worry, I found one. Sorry for being ignorant, Africans, especially Mr T whom is Mali.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Sundiata

>> No.12242707

>>12242085
>Nyrb thinks we're bullying dudebros again, this time because we *didn't* make threads about them
We really can't win with you girls, can we? What will you tweet if we have editions from before works went out of print and you started reprinting them for money? Will it involve you calling /lit/ male again? I, for one, am riveted. /Nonokosage

>> No.12242731

>>12242127
based

>> No.12242742

>>12242559
This guy is a homo Marxist spouting narratives that are a lot less clear cut than he's presenting them to be.

>> No.12242755

>>12242742
Are you calling him a Marxist just because someone mentioned the Communist Manifesto being linked to the US Constitution?

>> No.12242759

>>12242755
No, because I looked at his bibliography.

>> No.12242765

>>12242759
You realise lots of political liberals do Marxist studies and still aren't actual Marxists? Even Greg Sadler knows plenty of Marx and does videos on him because he's the most important philosophy of the 19th-20th century.

>> No.12242775

>>12242765
You're delusional. And Marx was not a philosopher, he was a jewish ideological schemer.

>> No.12242786

>>12242775
You're actually delusional, time to take your pills,
stormie.

>> No.12242792

>>12242775
>Allow me to fly in the face of canon for a moment
No, fanfiction is banned. You have to actually read Marx if you want to talk about him, so you probably don't want to talk about him because reading Marx is a grammatic torture worse than fanfiction.

>> No.12242820

>>12242604
Even if that were the case they obviously browse 4chan enough to know how to use memes correctly

>> No.12242821 [DELETED] 

>>12242786
Off the board, kike.

>>12242792
Few have done more damage to the west and the world as a whole than Marx. He was no philosopher, he was a tribal psychopath who ordered the little jews to take down the non-jewish "bourgeoisie" so jews could take power. And he's celebrated by jewish academia today because that plan was successful. But he is not celebrated here.

>> No.12242823

>>12242085
When they pan over, you can see that he writes with a Pentel Rolling Writer pen. He mentions these pens in interviews as well. Great pen.

>> No.12242832

>bloom reads translations

I thought bloom was patrish?

>> No.12242837

>>12242821
Marx believed in the complete abolition of the bourgeoisie and class, idiot. What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.12242857

>>12242821
>I'll keep insisting Marx is not an anti-Semite
kek. You probably quote him often without knowing. Marx fanfic writers are always so retarded about what he actually said. He wrote a whole book about getting rid of Jews and the people who read them probably sent them your way because they knew you wouldn't read him. Kekekekekeke

>> No.12242860

>>12242837
What kind of fool are you taking jews at their word? Marx was giving orders to his fellow tribesmen to use the proles to unhinge the European elite from power. That's why jews for the next 100 years went on an all out Marxist assault against this "bourgeoisie," and why you don't hear them spouting that message now, because they are the bourgeoisie.

>> No.12242877

>>12242860
>Marx: actually anti-Semitic and causes communists to isolate Jews, force them from the country, and create Israel to contain the Jewish problem to being an American capitalist problem and leave communism Jew free
>You: surrounded by jews and not even writing a book
I think we know who to trust.

>> No.12242878

>>12242860
Marx didn't even invent Communism, ethnic Germans did.

>> No.12242882

>>12242857
Marx was a jew, and his JQ essay was not "antisemitic" or contrary to jewish interests or abnormal from the standpoint of jewish goyfeed at the time.

>> No.12242885

>>12242877
Marx wasn't an anti-Semite, you can be against the practices of a group without blaming their ethnicity/religion for it.

>> No.12242886

>>12242860
There was but only one Marxist uprising in Germany, you idiot. Spartacist Uprising, that is.

To our dismay, Marxism only prevailed in the feudal East (Russia, China, Vietnam, etc.) and that's why they failed.

>> No.12242891

>>12242882
>If I lie about the JQ then I'll seem like I'm not a lying Jew
Give us your Jew gold, Moshe

>> No.12242895

>>12242877
Marx was a jew, moron. He was a semite.

>>12242878
Who said he did? Communism was Christianity 2.0. It was nothing new and in line with the jewish strategy going back millennia.

>> No.12242898

>>12242885
>Hating jews more than you do is not anti-Semitism
>Real anti-Semitism is when you promote jews to power
Uhuh, I don't think your story has legs. Also: still fanfic.

>> No.12242903

>>12242886
Jews were rabidly promoting Marxism and Marxist uprisings from Marx's time to WWII.

>> No.12242904

Stop responding to the troll

>> No.12242906

>>12242895
>Jew tried to point to the man who popularised the JQ in Europe as a Jew
Do jews really think they can rewrite canon and have it not be fanfic?

>> No.12242909

>>12242903
Good for them. A lot of other people were as well.

>> No.12242912

>>12242904
Just because he's a self hating Jew who hasn't read Marx and writes Marxist fanfiction is no need to call him a troll. His nose just looks that way because, you know.

>> No.12242914

>>12242906
The jewish problem goes back to Egyptian times, when they were kicked out for similar proto-Marxist behavior.

>> No.12242919

>>12242914
>The jews were kicked out of Egypt
More Jewish lies I see

>> No.12242925

>>12242909
.... Because jews were promoting it to them. Are you jewish? If not you must be pretty stupid to follow the ideology of your enemy, who views you as their enemy and promoted Marxism as hostile outsiders to atomize your society.

>> No.12242931

>anti-semitism is normal on /lit/ now

This used to be one of the good boards

>> No.12242932
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>>12242919
The jews have been kicked out of every place they've ever been. Egypt is just one place out of many, many more.

>> No.12242935

>>12242925
I didn't know idea's could be owned by people.

>> No.12242936

>>12242931
Nah /lit/ was always Marxist. Ask /pol/

>> No.12242937

>>12242931
>antisemitism
Key ingredient: semites.

>> No.12242942

>the ideology of the removal of classes belongs to x class!

what am I even reading

>> No.12242944

>>12242932
Yet you're stuck with them. I wonder why a non Marx reader with a victim complex would lie like that? Does it have something to with the absence of a foreskin?

>> No.12242951

>>12242935
The mother fuckers name is on it you peon.

>> No.12242956

>>12242944
>victim complex
I sense jewish projection.

>> No.12242961

>>12242956
You think you're under attack by invisible forces. How are you not a victim there?

>> No.12242966

Slave morality

>> No.12242967

>>12242931
>>12242936

Blame /pol/ and Pewdiepie spreading their crap here.

>> No.12242968

>>12242956
I'm not the one with a Jewish problem, you're the one bitching about being covered in Jews when you could just read Marx if you wanted rid of them.

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>>12242961
Jews openly attack whites and white societies openly.

>> No.12242976

>>12242967
>Canon never had issue with Jews
>It's obviously YouTube
You might not want to start reading books.

>> No.12242987

>>12242967
Jews have literally always been a problem, you think this started with pewdiepie lol??

What an idiot.

>> No.12242995

>>12242974
>twitter is evidence
Now I know you live on the innernet.

>> No.12242997

>>12242974
I think its time you stopped trolling dude. I am starting to feel bad

>> No.12243008

>>12242987
It started when /pol/ needed to invent a boogeyman to blame for why they don't have a girlfriend

>> No.12243017

>>12242995
>>12242997
You guys should probably go. Portraying Marx as a philosopher and hiding his kikery is not an effective strategy here.

>> No.12243030

>>12243008
Is that why everyone since the Egyptians has said the same thing about the human parasite commonly known as the jew? Read your Tacitus, boy.

>> No.12243033

>>12243017
You lack orgone

>> No.12243057

>>12243017
>Pretending you're a bigger anti-Semite than Marx again
Give us the gold, Moshe

>> No.12243077

>>12243030
Its not 500BC anymore though.

>> No.12243079

>>12243017
>kikery
You do know that he rejected his Jewish heritage, was borderline antisemitic himself and wrote a book about killing the rich (jews)?

>> No.12243080

>>12243033
>>12243057
Poor showing. Provide a thought-out counter-argument next time and you'll be less likely to embarrass yourselves like this.

>> No.12243092

>>12243079
You really don't understand how jews think and operate. They are not ideological like white people. Tribalism is the only ideology they know, except when the goyim are watching.

>> No.12243093

>>12243080
>I'll pretend he didn't say read Marx to get rid of Jews
You know this fanfiction world you've built doesn't happen outside your head canon, right, Moshe?

>> No.12243103

>bullying /pol/ for not reading enough Marx to be a true antiSemite
Beautiful.

>> No.12243412

bump

>> No.12244111

>>12242085
Ok

>> No.12244578

>>12242085
>Lichtenberg
this is one of my favourite NYRB volumes - insights on every page, and less manic than Nietzsche, whom I believe recommended him to me originally (if not by name, then at least by his predisposition toward the aphorism changing my preferences in turn, recommending La Rochefoucauld, Chamfort, and others)
either that, or I found it because Hollingdale translated Nietzsche as well as Lichtenberg.

>> No.12246063

bamp

>> No.12247629

>>12243077
>Its not 500BC anymore though.
now they successfully infiltrated and control almost every institution in the western world
which is proof that god exists
not because of the cunning of jews but the promise He made to them

>> No.12248917

>>12242477
The writers of Mahabharata, Ramayana and the Upanishads were not the original Aryans, who were already part Near-Eastern when they came to Afghanistan.

>> No.12250375

>>12247629
The western world does not comprise of the USA and Israel. Read Marx, a lot of it's in France.

>> No.12250516

>>12242931
It's honestly sad how every single board has gone to shit on this site following the election

>> No.12250521

>>12247629
>they successfully infiltrated and control almost every institution in the western world
Just in America

>> No.12250563

>>12250521
It's literally illegal in Europe to question the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust

>> No.12250634

>>12250563
>Implying Hitler didn't do a good job at getting rid of Jews
That's libelous.

>> No.12252050

>>12242820
Nah, you overestimate them. I was the OP for that thread. Just ran across their post on a whim and was surprised. I don't know how they learned about our little shithole desu.