is Scruton a pseud?

[Anonymous No.12226498]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9JapLD5aQ

[Anonymous No.12226522]

>>12226498
He is a humble tobacco merchant

[Anonymous No.12226544]

I remember watching some kind of documentary he did about the changes that have taken place in art, namely how beauty has lost it's seat. This is something I care about a lot, so I was interested in what he had to say, but I found it really insubstantial, it was mostly just him going "man these andy warhol paintings suck and are ugly, I don't like them." While I can agree with this, he didn't present any kind of compelling argument.

[Anonymous No.12226549]

>>12226544
this is why i asked. he seems to have written a lot of books pandering to conservative religious, but i can't find any great original ideas of his own.

i agree that putting beauty back on the pedestal is necessary if humanity is going to continue into generations worth living.

[Anonymous No.12226952]

>>12226498
lmao peterson is a blubbering retard compared to scruton

[Anonymous No.12227015]

i read his book "Beauty - A Very Short Introduction" in february, pretty good.

[Anonymous No.12227325]

>>12226498
mostly yes. whatever learning he has does not show in any substantial way in his talks/documentaries

officially good art documentaries with my approval (which counts for a lot let me tell you)

civilisation
ways of seeing
shock of the new

all of which can be found on y tab search word

[Anonymous No.12227338]

While I disagree with what he says, I will defend (to DEATH) his right to say those things. Believe that.

[Anonymous No.12227370]

>>12226549
original ideas are overrated
I became familiar with him thanks to the art documentary and am now reading his book How to be a Conservative.
His critique about modern life are good but nothing groundbreaking.
I liked this documentary on him, gives you the basic about him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRbOvnl0SEQ

[Anonymous No.12227375]

>>12226498
No, he's not a pseud. He's one of the foremost thinkers of our age.

[Anonymous No.12228016]

The difficulty in Scruton is that he's one of those guys who doesn't segregate history, politics, art criticism, philosophy, etc. They all supervene on his rather romantic, traditional English Christian worldview, and if you don't imbibe that he just comes off as a really smart and bumbling fool.

[Anonymous No.12228021]

>>12226498
>writes a book and titles it Notes From Underground
>book is about a kid reading Dostoevsky's far superior novel of the same name
yup I'd say he's a grade A pseud.

but also this >>12226952

[Anonymous No.12228090]

Anyone read him on Wagner?

[Anonymous No.12228094]

>>12227015
on this note, has anyone read his vsi on kant? is it any good?

[Anonymous No.12228224]

>>12226498
I closed the video almost as soon as Peterson started talking. The guy is completely out of his element, and has been for a long while.
Stop making Peterson threads ffs.

[Anonymous No.12228349]

>>12226498
He's a hack for sure.

[Anonymous No.12228350]

his recent work is pretty scattershot. the meaning of conservatism was quite good, though obviously wrong.

>>12228016
i'd co-sign this. i'm not english, but his early work really seemed to be emblematic of some high toryism or something. not sure if that's a thing, but he seemed to be elucidating a respectable, aloof, communitarian kind of conservatism. now he's really just another fusionism preaching dipshit. its too bad, as his old work was more relevant to the current political moment (nascent populism) than the gruel of frank meyer or paul ryan or thatcher or w/e.

[Anonymous No.12228377]

>>12226498
>the way he looks away embarrassed when Peterson starts sobbing

[Anonymous No.12228532]

>>12227325
>shock of the new
haha holy shit
no

[Anonymous No.12228558]

>>12228016
That's precisely what I like about him.

[Anonymous No.12228568]

>>12228377
hahaha

>>12228224
it's not a peterson thread you dumb bint I want to know what /lit/ thinks of Scruton. i'm interested in reading his books but he seems like a guy who says a bunch of introductory stuff i already know.

[Anonymous No.12228614]

>>12226544
I remember that documentary. There is a lot that isn't spelled out clearly. Once I read some philosophy on aesthetics I appreciated what he was trying to do a lot more, but it still isn't something spectacular or anything.

[Anonymous No.12228630]

>>12228614
>Once I read some philosophy on aesthetics I appreciated what he was trying to do a lot more, but it still isn't something spectacular or anything.

>saving mankind is not spectacular

[Anonymous No.12228676]

>>12228016
I'll be adding "supervene" to my written vocabulary. cheers

[Anonymous No.12228713]

>>12228630
>saving mankind is not spectacular
I meant the documentary, calm down.

[Anonymous No.12228728]

Not a pseud. He may come off as philosophy-lite but thats because he's more art oriented than analytic.

[Anonymous No.12228781]

>>12226498
I love scrutons with my alad.

[Anonymous No.12228853]

>>12226498
I'm new-ish here.
What is the general attitude in /lit/ towards British or American conservatism now, and has the attitude changed at all over the years?

[Anonymous No.12228881]

>>12228853
They are fucking small brains, but being a christ-conservative is the contrarian position of choice these days, so /lit/ is all for it.

[Anonymous No.12229435]

he's better than most conservative thinkers in that he has a sense of humour and doesn't fucking cry at everything

[Anonymous No.12229440]

>>12229435
dlete this please

[Anonymous No.12229442]

>>12228853
>>12228881
conservatism is still unfashionable but going as far right as possible, ie. supporting the Spanish Inquisition or whatever has gained in favor over the years

[Anonymous No.12229575]

>>12228377
timestamp pls i want to enjoy this

[Anonymous No.12229631]

>>12226544
>While I can agree with this, he didn't present any kind of compelling argument.
I feel like I saw this documentary posted on /r9k/ several years ago, and that was pretty much the response it got. I didn't even believe in objective standards of beauty back then (and still sort of don't), so he just came across as some stodgy old man bitching about the cool brutalist buildings that happened to be dirty (I sort of hate brutalist architecture now, though).

His idea about beauty losing its seat is interesting, though. As a society we just don't really care about anything anymore. The children of the upper class imitate the children of the lower class (basically whites imitate black people), no one has any sense of shame because somehow the media has convinced us that this is a virtue (or maybe dysgenics and democracy has really just made us dumb enough to create a critical mass of retards, I don't know).

He also made some comments speaking favorably of eugenics, which I thought was weird given that his whole gambit is sort of in the whole Wrath of Gnon Chesterton-larping camp.

[Anonymous No.12229636]

>>12228021
Did that actually happen?

>>12228224
Clean your room

[Anonymous No.12229654]

>>12229440
>JP
>conservative

[Anonymous No.12229674]

>>12229654
>DAE dark enlightenment
faggot

[Anonymous No.12229688]

max comfy doc right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoybTk6TEX4

[Anonymous No.12229693]

>>12229636

[Anonymous No.12229727]

I like Scruton, he's like the genteel, soft-spoken grandfather I once wished I had.

[Anonymous No.12230677]

>>12226498
I read his "How to be a Conservative" and found it to be a well written introduction to Conservative reasoning across a range of topics. He's clearly read enough to be able to reason critically and is familiar with the Western Canon. Therefore "no", he is not a pseud.

[Anonymous No.12231960]

>>12227325
>officially good art documentaries with my approval

and who are you to be an arbitraty between what´s good and what isn´t?