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is anti-natalism the most pleb philosophy of all time? Even sam harris manages to BTFO it when he talks to the author.

https://youtu.be/1s88Ze41pRU

>> No.12187515

>>12187502
>even Sam Harris
Sam Harris is seriously one of the most articulate and hard to debate guys around,

>> No.12187535

>>12187502
anti-natalism isn't an actual philosophy though, its a post hoc justification for used up whores who can never settle down and have a family because they spent their fertile years on the cock carousel so now they need all the other women who were more sensible to feel their pain. Anti-natalism is for 40 year old women what a school shooting is for a 15 year old boy

>> No.12187540

>>12187535
Unironically this

>> No.12187601

>>12187535
Come on man
The fact that humans have children is pretty interesting and disgusting at the same time
It must be criticized in any meaningful way possible, philosophically or otherwise.

>> No.12187614

>>12187502
>Steve Pinker is as close to a polymath as we have these days

>> No.12187632

>>12187502
No it is actually the most patrician philosophy ever conceived. I have been an antinatalist since I was 13, although I didn't know the word for it.

When my brother announced that he and his wife were going to have a child I was the only person in my family who wasn't a p-zombie so.yified npc about the news. I looked my brother right in the eyes then and there and started explaining to him how morally reprehensible it was to bring a child into the current world and if he really went through with it I would refuse to be any sort of uncle to the child. His and the rest of my family's response was the typical "haha you're a neet incel who doesn't know shit about life." Literally nothing but strawmanning and I pointed this out to them. Pro-natalists really can't into logic at all. Anyway my father got involved at this point and said I wouldn't have to be an uncle to the child since he didn't consider me any son of his. I called him a betacuck who probably paid out the betabucks while my mother went on tinder for alphafucks. After I explained what that meant to him he said I had three weeks to move out. That night I went and dump all of my piss bottles on the carpet of my room and my father was forced to tear all the carpet up to get the smell out. I threatened to kill myself if he kicked me out and my mother started bawling and begging him to let me stay.

It's pretty hilarious how philosophically inept pro-natalists are.

>> No.12187639

>>12187632
This was amusing

>> No.12187644

Antinatalism is the only logical choice if you think suffering is the thing that matters the most in the world, i.e. the thing we should try to eradicate the most.
If you are an empathetic person, you cannot be but aspiring to end all suffering. You're doomed to be an antinatalist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_utilitarianism

You can be antinatalist as a christian too.

>> No.12187661

>>12187644
>thinking that suffering is the thing that matters most

pathetic

>> No.12187666

>>12187644
>utilitarianism
cringe

>> No.12187671

>>12187644
>empathetic
You won't find anyone here

>> No.12187711

>>12187644
I don’t think the ability to empathize has much to do with an aversion for suffering.