/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.12094262]

Because new thread ain't gonna create itself.

>do you believe SF and fantasy books are superior because they require setting development on top of whatever story they're conveying?
>softcover, hardcover or digital books when it comes to reading preferences?

Monthly Reading for November: A Night in the Lonesome October by Roger Zelazny

FANTASY
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General:
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previously:
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>>12075953
>>12064464
>>12053606
>>12042507

[Anonymous No.12094269]

First for Chinkshit

[Anonymous No.12094339]

i love gene wolfe so much you guys

[Anonymous No.12094379]

[Anonymous No.12094385]

Does anyone have updated version of the Malazan guide?

[Anonymous No.12094394]

>I'm so glad I spent that time reading science fiction and fantasy!

[Anonymous No.12094397]

>>12094262
Superior to what? Most YA does that too, even Da H8 U Gib

[Anonymous No.12094410]

>>12094397
Depends, I guess.

>detective in New York is trying to solve a murder
vs
>robot detective on Mars is trying to solve a murder involving aliens in Mars Space Jurisdiction

[Anonymous No.12094414]

How can one man be so based?

[Anonymous No.12094437]

>>12094394
“Time you enjoy wasting is not time wasted!“ :^)

[Anonymous No.12094442]

[Anonymous No.12094464]

>>12094262

What are your thoughts on Lud-in-the-Mist, /sffg/? I'm really enjoying it.

[Anonymous No.12094478]

>>12094464
Read it like a month ago, it's a pleasant read.

[Anonymous No.12094479]

Any fantasy books with female protagonists that aren't cringy tumblr power fantasies?

[Anonymous No.12094506]

>>12094479
The Mists of Avalon
Howl's Moving Castle

[Anonymous No.12094516]

>>12094410
I definitely wouldn't read that, make the robot black or something

[Anonymous No.12094520]

>>12094442
has december's book been decided yet?

[Anonymous No.12094526]

was their something between mat and elayne?

[Anonymous No.12094531]

>>12094520
No, nominations will be collected during the discussion thread around the 30th and voting will take place during the thread after that.

[Anonymous No.12094548]

>>12094479
Black God's Kiss

[Anonymous No.12094571]

>>12094548
What makes Jirel stand out today, over seven decades after her first appearance in 1934, is that C. L. Moore stubbornly refused to mold her character to fit the pattern of the male heroes of the day. Readers expecting a female Conan when they first delve into the Jirel stories are in for a surprise. Jirel rarely defeats her foes with slashing steel or muscular brawling. She uses the power of her overwhelming personality, her fierce determination to be who she envisions herself to be, to lay her foes to waste. It isn’t merely that Jirel is tough, brave, and needs help from no one — man or god in man’s shape — that make her such a vibrant creation. She has a receptive emotional core and an aching empathy that make her unlike the majority of male warriors with whom she shared the pulp pages…and, unfortunately, the majority of female warriors created today.

[Anonymous No.12094572]

>>12094464

There's something precious to me about the unbuilt genre, fantasy stories written before they found out they were supposed to be writing fantasy stories. With all the due respect in the world, no other genre is so inveigled as fantasy and LOTR and books like Lud-in-the-Mist and Ouroborous and Nightland and Oz and Gormenghast and the sundry Dunsany show the protean wilds that was that fleeting moment between thoroughly Victorian and thoroughly Modern.

[Anonymous No.12094631]

>>12094572

Do you mean Oz like the Wizard of Oz? Do you have any other recommendations in the same subgenre/time period? I've read The King of Elfland's Daughter by Dunsany but that's it.

[Anonymous No.12094632]

>>12094394
I agree on fantasy but only shitty science fiction is pulpy

[Anonymous No.12094633]

>>12094571
Nice chainmail.

[Anonymous No.12094653]

>>12094631

The Worm Ouroboros is amazing if you can handle the dense prose.

[Anonymous No.12094681]

Mad Max-inspired sci-fi and fantasy needs to be more of a thing. The idea of post-apocalyptic barbarians on motorcycles with axes battling orc mutants and alien sorcerers appeals to the inner 12 year old in me.

[Anonymous No.12094685]

>>12094681

[Anonymous No.12094705]

>>12094262
>>12094442
>Monthly Reading for November: A Night in the Lonesome October by Roger Zelazny

Is it too late to start now?

[Anonymous No.12094745]

>>12094681

Hokuto no Ken is Mad Max done right.

[Anonymous No.12094754]

>>12094745
Mad Max is Mad Max done right, you pleb.

[Anonymous No.12094759]

>>12094745
>holding shonen manga to a high standard, ever

[Anonymous No.12094813]

>>12094633
>Best chained-male

[Anonymous No.12094882]

>>12094681
Wouldn't that make zero sense, though? Oil and processes to refine such don't run themselves. Vehicle would probably be the first thing to go as we fall back to animals.

[Anonymous No.12094900]

"Haha, wouldn't it be cool if there was a Stormlight or Mistborn video game? Man, I wish someone would make one. Do you guys think CDPR would make one if I gave them the rights for free?"

[Anonymous No.12094906]

>>12094882
It makes absolutely no sense, but people here seem to value rule of cool above anything else

[Anonymous No.12094916]

>>12094759
>Watch video on how shounen flavor of the month breaks new ground
>Watch it
>It's as formulaic as it gets and the only standout thing it has is the animation during fight scenes

[Anonymous No.12094928]

>>12094900

Does he actually say (something like) this in one of his lecture videos, or is this bait? Please tell us which video and timestamp.

[Anonymous No.12094934]

>>12094928

[Anonymous No.12094953]

>>12094882
Depends how devastating the apocalypse was.

[Anonymous No.12094957]

alien romance?

[Anonymous No.12094963]

>>12094957
Fifty Shades of Grey

[Anonymous No.12094966]

>>12094963
I like you Anon

[Anonymous No.12094977]

>>12094953
If we are at a point when roaming barbarian packs exist we can assume it's well past the point of maintaining any advanced infrastructure. Or we're in Africa, I guess.

[Anonymous No.12094986]

>>12094934

Fuck me, how self-important.

I don't think he realises CDPR/Sapkowski's strengths are in character interactions and personality and that's his biggest and most obvious flaw.

I'm sure that lots of fans would buy a Sanderson videogame though, as sure as I am it would be utterly dire.

[Anonymous No.12094989]

>>12094882
>>12094906
Fucking zoomer scum.

[Anonymous No.12094990]

>>12094986

Forgot to add that him lampshading his own self-importance somehow makes it worse.

[Anonymous No.12095003]

Bros I really enjoyed Jack Vance's Tales of the Dying Earth.

It scratched a seemingly endless itch I have for stories in settings where much of the world still seems unexplored and there are wondrous, unknown things still waiting to be discovered, with any overarching plot about 'saving the world' completely absent.

Is there any other fantasy/science fiction books you could recommend similar to this?

[Anonymous No.12095004]

>>12094957
please?

[Anonymous No.12095035]

>>12094977
True but if you're using fantastical elements like >>12094681 wanted, I'm sure you can find an apocalypse scenario that gives the entire world Africa's structural and societal problems

[Anonymous No.12095049]

>>12094705
I never start till the week of. As long as you finish by deadline it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.12095056]

>>12094977
Did you morons skip over the first part of that post where I mentioned MAD MAX? A beloved film franchise that does EXACTLY what you goobers say isn't believable? I simply would like to add more fantastical and sci-fi elements to such a setting.

[Anonymous No.12095078]

>>12095003
It's no Vance, but I think it fits your description well.

[Anonymous No.12095211]

Is there any good progressive fantasy around? I tried reading some of that shit and it's horrible.

>>12095056
Not those anons but no one cares about your Mad Max fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.12095218]

>>12095211
>progressive fantasy
What's progressive fantasy?

[Anonymous No.12095232]

>>12095211
>Not those anons but no one cares about your Mad Max fanfiction.
Literally everyone cares about it, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12095233]

>>12095218
Fantasy with progressive themes like feminism, transsexuals, communism, etc.

[Anonymous No.12095239]

>>12095232
No, he's right nobody cares. Only complete fucking retards are into ANY kind of fan fiction.

[Anonymous No.12095254]

>>12095218
The Traitor Baru Cormorant

[Anonymous No.12095255]

>>12095239
No one is writing Mad Max fanfiction, you daffy queer.

[Anonymous No.12095259]

>>12095233
I'm afraid it can't be anything but terrible

[Anonymous No.12095266]

>>12095233
Maybe something like this, but we'll all be happier if you just embrace the endless dark.

[Anonymous No.12095269]

>>12095211
The Traitor Baru Cormorant

[Anonymous No.12095298]

>>12095259
I am beginning to think that too. I am still holding out for traps and trannies in fantasy tho.

>>12095269
Oh that was just horrible. How much of a basedboy you have to be to write about economics in fantasy?

>>12095266
Sounds like Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear.

[Anonymous No.12095311]

>>12095233
>communism
>progressive
hilarious, never mind the other shite

[Anonymous No.12095319]

>>12094572

[Anonymous No.12095360]

>>12094681
Read Damnation Alley

[Anonymous No.12095385]

what are some books
where the protag enters a long term relationship with an ayylmao

[Anonymous No.12095389]

>>12094957
Dancers at The End of Time
Dare - Philip J Farmer

[Anonymous No.12095395]

>>12095298
Why not just fap to tranny porn and read good literature no the side

why do lgbtards have to put their sexual shit in everywhere they touch

[Anonymous No.12095397]

>>12095385
Did you suffer a stroke while typing? The fuck are you even trying to say?

[Anonymous No.12095408]

>>12095397
the only person having a stroke here is you
buddy

[Anonymous No.12095422]

>>12095397
Hello, newfag.

[Anonymous No.12095424]

>>12095395
>why do lgbtards have to put their sexual shit in everywhere they touch
Cuz it's progressive nigga.

[Anonymous No.12095441]

Wtf i love single mothers now

[Anonymous No.12095572]

>>12095422
Seriously anon he is right. You are on /lit and you type like a neanderthal. Drop the memes and green arrows and type like a human being.

[Anonymous No.12095578]

>>12095572
the only neanderthal here is you
Mr. Neanderthal

[Anonymous No.12095580]

>>12095385
This is what happens to your brain when you read Sanderson

[Anonymous No.12095611]

What are you fags reading?

[Anonymous No.12095619]

>>12095003
I don't know. I think your best bet would be reading some short story collections. Sum: Forty Tales from the Afterlives comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.12095623]

>>12095233
He cute

[Anonymous No.12095630]

>>12095611
readings for nerds bruh

[Anonymous No.12095634]

>>12095611
I'm in the middle of several books unfortunately.

The sffg relevant ones are
Heretics of dune
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Goblin Slayer book 5

I'm actually looking for some super easy SF to read on my phone, I need something to distract myself when I'm too tired to flip pages or it's too dark for a book.

[Anonymous No.12095645]

>>12095611
Reading is too inefficient for those blessed by the Omnissiah. I am playing Wh40k: Mechanicus.

[Anonymous No.12096037]

>>12095634
Vorkosigan is comfy af if you like space operas.

[Anonymous No.12096044]

>>12095003
Vance generally does small-stakes stories in weird settings. Obviously, keep reading the Dying Earth stories. Also check out Lyonesse, Araminta Station, and Big Planet by him.

[Anonymous No.12096054]

>>12096037
>Vorkosigan

How come it never achieved much prominence?

[Anonymous No.12096075]

>>12095611
The MLA Edgar Allen Poe compendium.

I knew he was influential but holy shit. "Bon-Bon", a story I'd never heard of, obviously inspired C.S. Lewis's Screwtape Letters. His poem "Dream-Land" IS Lovecraft's Dream Cycle. The City in the Sea IS R'Lyeh. Clark Ashton Smith's entire corpus is basically a takeoff on Poe.

[Anonymous No.12096095]

>>12096054
The god awful covers definitely played a big role. That said the books are still quite prominent in sf circles even though they never gained any traction in the mainstream.

[Anonymous No.12096107]

>>12096054
>>12096095
SF audiences in the late 80s/early 90s wanted harder tech. They'd be a hit today where Broken Earth is doing hat tricks at the Hugos.

[Anonymous No.12096118]

>>12096095
>tfw no furry mommy gf

[Anonymous No.12096129]

>>12096107
True, it has plenty of sjw themes too but most of it is handled in a tasteful manner. The hacks that write today that like to preach and shove that shit down our throats could learn a lot from reading Vorkosigan.
If they were newly released now with some tasteful covers the books would make mad bank.

[Anonymous No.12096155]

>>12096118
the little dude fucks that beast in a cell and takes her virginity just after she kills and eats a huge rat
She's not supposed to be that ugly in the book, the artist got carried away. She's big but beautiful, doesn't have a mane, has claws and fangs though.

[Anonymous No.12096173]

>>12096155
Picked up

[Anonymous No.12096179]

>>12095611
I'm about 3/4 through The Straggler's Mask by our local furry and it's actually surprisingly good. Unless the ending suck I'll probably end up rating it 3/5.

[Anonymous No.12096194]

>>12096173
Don't start there, that book is deep in the series.
Follow this
https://jamesgecko.com/vorkosigan-omnibus/
It's a great series up until Miles in Love which is when it turns into a full on romance for a couple of books.

[Anonymous No.12096263]

hiroshimoot is nuking 4chan.
see you faggots on 4channel.org

2 nukes werent enough

[Anonymous No.12096387]

>>12096263
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.12096394]

>>12096387
the big red alert message at the top of the screen

[Anonymous No.12096399]

>>12096387
read the blotter.
basically hiroshimoot is splitting 4chan.
all nsfw boards stay on 4chan.org while all sfw boards go to 4channel.org. in his own words its because 4chan is blacklisted by big firms. so they wont advertise on it. he wants a blank slate basically to make ad revenue.
threads with people complaining get disappeared.

[Anonymous No.12096408]

>>12096399
So it's nothing?

[Anonymous No.12096415]

>>12096399
>threads with people complaining get disappeared.
>look at /qa/
Yeah I don't think that's quite true

[Anonymous No.12096419]

>>12096408
You really think that's gonna be the end of it?

[Anonymous No.12096424]

>>12096419
>Make sure to update your script blockers and whitelist the new domain
>whitelist
lmao

[Anonymous No.12096428]

>>12096424
remember how a week after hiro took over 4chan suddenly had popup ads infested with malware?
i hope notch really buys 4chan.

[Anonymous No.12096430]

>>12096399
I fail to see how this is a big deal. It's just two separate domains, no?

[Anonymous No.12096439]

>>12096399
That slanty eyed jew. He's basically splitting this site in reddit-lite and a porn dump. What's the point in even visiting this place if I can't say nigger?

>>12096424
Yeah it seems he really didn't think this through. The 4channel domain can blocked just as easily.

>>12096428
If all else fails we also have that other place.

[Anonymous No.12096442]

>>12096430
it starts with separation.
then the cleansing begins.

[Anonymous No.12096448]

>>12096439
>If all else fails we also have that other place.
cripple chan is an alternative true. its painfully slow though and the interface is really clunky in many points. i dont even think there is a /lit/ board at this point.

[Anonymous No.12096474]

>>12096442
I embrace this. At least there will be a /co/ where people actually discuss comics instead of wanking on fanart with inflated asses all day long

And hopefully there will be a blue /ic/ where people discuss art instead of anime smut

[Anonymous No.12096489]

Based and redpilled.
Sarah on suicide watch

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2493401999?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1

[Anonymous No.12096490]

>>12096448
I think the bigger problem is lack of posters. Last time I visited one of the top 10 boards was /cuteboys (thank fully it was about a bunch of trannies in denial). The rest of the list on the home page was some flavor of /pol retardation.

>>12096474
Are you telling me there is no discussion of shitty superhero comics on /co/mblr?
Shocking!

[Anonymous No.12096496]

>>12096489
Nigga you already posted that. That chubster reviewer is kind of funny, but not *that* funny
.

[Anonymous No.12096501]

>>12096490
>I think the bigger problem is lack of posters.
absolutely. but the performance i think is the main contributing factor. only the top 5 or so boars on cripplechan actually get posters regularly.
i checked /lit/ out there btw.
there are threads from early 2017 still up.
its kinda depressing.

[Anonymous No.12096525]

>>12096501
True. The situation here would have to get really bad to force people to move somewhere else.
I guess I'll go back sf.recs at Google groups.

[Anonymous No.12096534]

>>12096129
When they were written, the "SJW themes" in Vorkosigan were a lot more along the lines of Bujold participating in a long-running conversation than insufferable apparatchiks dictating the party line. The political and social environment was completely different.

[Anonymous No.12096552]

Turns out that Peter Watts' dad was a closet gay Baptist minister and only came out after being beaten up by his wife.
Crazy.

[Anonymous No.12096630]

>>12096552
Don't make fun of someone's dementia anon.

[Anonymous No.12096648]

>>12096194
thanks fren

[Anonymous No.12096715]

>>12094414
They probably will ask him eventually

[Anonymous No.12096722]

>>12096715
I think he's already said he wouldn't do it because of the sex scenes. Maybe enough money would change that though.

[Anonymous No.12096727]

There are strangers on the Plain.

[Anonymous No.12096740]

>>12094385
I wouldn't consider that any kind of guide to anything except exasperation.

[Anonymous No.12096760]

>do you believe SF and fantasy books are superior
Nope. I read them because I enjoy it, I'm not a pseud so I don't care how "superior" my hobbies make me to other people.

>softcover, hardcover or digital books when it comes to reading preferences?
Mass market paperback is my preferred style, unfortunately it's becoming less and less common to print these especially for fantasy series. Anymore only the biggest and most popular names will get them, but even those are starting to cut back on mass markets. Oathbringer will never have a mass market paperback release in the States, for example, and if Sanderson can't justify it then basically nobody besides the likes of GRRM or Tolkien is safe.

[Anonymous No.12096771]

>>12096490
Bigger problem is /lit/ being shit.

>fantasy and SF literally segregated to one thread

[Anonymous No.12096784]

>>12096552
As cool as Blindsight was some of the shit got on my nerves, though. Especially with him trying to legitimize "headmates" in any real sense and not just as people A) pretending or B) having legitimate mental problems. And to even fathom someone like that would have a job in the military is mental.

[Anonymous No.12096811]

>>12096771
When you take out slef-inserts, waifus and bad fantasy there really isn't a lot of left.

>>12096784
Headmates? The character in Blindsight was the product of cutting edge neurosurgery (and let's face it, you gotta be insane to let something like that be done to you) not some fat loser posting on tumblr.

[Anonymous No.12096939]

>>12096771
This place is slow that way. You could have dedicated threads, but they'd just die.

[Anonymous No.12096943]

Hey, I've seen a Dune Frank Herbert reading guide on /lit/ can someone post it if they have it?

[Anonymous No.12096954]

>>12096943
Here, i will save you some time.
Read the first book and only the first book.
Done.

[Anonymous No.12096960]

>>12096943
What would you even need a guide for? There's only 7 books and they're all sequential.

[Anonymous No.12096967]

>>12096722
>Brandon finally get GRRMs notes for the last book
>it's a 1200 pages long orgy and a legal document demanding he follow every note

[Anonymous No.12096968]

>>12096954
I always felt like there was nothing else to explore that wasn't covered in the first book.

[Anonymous No.12096971]

>>12096968
Open ended finale also works perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.12096974]

>>12096943
>>12096954
And if you really like it read until God Emperor.

[Anonymous No.12096995]

>>12096943
This one?

[Anonymous No.12097055]

>>12094262
What book is this image about?

[Anonymous No.12097084]

>>12097055
Google image search tard.

[Anonymous No.12097089]

>>12096771
>>12096811
>>12096939
yeah, /lit/ is slow but how is whatever equivalent reddit has? books seem like a hard topic to get controversial over so that might be a place to get more people circulating.

[Anonymous No.12097110]

>>12097089
I have tried all kinds of sub-reddits but you can't escape from the fact that it's onions central.

[Anonymous No.12097137]

Is 4channel not up yet?

[Anonymous No.12097160]

>>12097137
Nah nigger.

[Anonymous No.12097174]

>>12096943
Pretty much every book is stand alone,so you can stop reading whenever you want.

[Anonymous No.12097231]

>>12095211

Samuel Delaney's Return to Neveryon Neveryon

Ursula K LeGuin's oeuvre, although the more blatantly progressive tends to fall more on Sci-Fi, although I feel usually its just a setup more than a driving feeling (The Dispossessed, The Left Hand of Darkness)

China Mieville talks shit, but his Bas-Lag cycle was engaging reading and deals with ethnic/racial power plays and essentially has a train-bound socialist commune in one book.

[Anonymous No.12097250]

>>12095611

I'm reading a story from Dangerous Visions every few days, but right now I got suck(er)ed into Renegade from the Spiral Wars. It hits that nostalgic sweet spot of clunky Baenist writing while also having a really involving plot. Military adventure with a sci-fi trapping always gets me happy to read more when it has this level of interest.

[Anonymous No.12097263]

>>12097089

I've spent more time on /r/fantasy than the sci-fi equivalent, and its very much a hug box where quite a few authors drop by to discuss their work and hang out. I like it, but it doesn't have the contrarian nature that 4chan's anonymity has.

[Anonymous No.12097265]

reminder that John Wyndham is the goat

[Anonymous No.12097272]

>>12097174
>Actual Dune porn exists
Why

[Anonymous No.12097278]

>>12097272
The faps must flow.

[Anonymous No.12097290]

>>12097089
I'd rather deal with the waifuposting and shitposting here than deal with reddit's hugbox-enabling censorship-encouraging voting system. I've gotten some good recommendations for less popular books from these threads just by scrolling through as I catch up on posts, you couldn't do that on reddit where stuff like that is always buried by upvoted canned responses that are safe and easy to approve of.

[Anonymous No.12097300]

>>12097272
>Not wanting to fuck Baron Harkonnen

[Anonymous No.12097316]

>>12094506
>The Mists of Avalon
Not that guy but if I'm not really all that familiar with Arthurian legend, would I enjoy this less?

[Anonymous No.12097319]

>>12097290
This is the main problem with reddit, that horrible upboat system. It's fine for sites like stackoverflow with narrowly defined technical questions but for actual discussions? Fuhgeddaboudit.

>>12097300
BH would be disgusting even in rule 63 form.

[Anonymous No.12097322]

>>12097272
>why
humans are animals. we’re not gods lol or divine or rational or thoughtful

[Anonymous No.12097324]

>>12097290
This,and also they barely talk about older fantasy on reddit.

[Anonymous No.12097338]

>>12097319
>BH in Rule63
Y-yeah that would be gross,ha ha

[Anonymous No.12097386]

>>12097338
That's fucking disgusting nigger.

[Anonymous No.12097417]

>>12096263
I'll still be able to call people faggots r-right?

[Anonymous No.12097428]

>>12097417
of course goy. you will be shadowbanned of course so no one will see your post but you obviously dont know and wont even notice people not replying to you

[Anonymous No.12097465]

Are there any good books in which faeries, pixies and the like are the main focus?

[Anonymous No.12097509]

I don't usually read science fiction, but I found this at a yard sale for free a while back and never read it. Should I even bother? Is it trash?

[Anonymous No.12097514]

>>12097509
>Not one but TWO naked chicks on the cover
It's probably a masterpiece

[Anonymous No.12097549]

>>12096037
Thanks, I'll give it a try and get back to you whenever I happen to finish it

[Anonymous No.12097551]

Okay, this is epic.

[Anonymous No.12097560]

What are some books like this movie?

[Anonymous No.12097565]

>>12097560
Not a book but Homestuck.

[Anonymous No.12097568]

>>12097272
>why
I'll take rule 34 and 35 for 100 Alex.

[Anonymous No.12097578]

>>12097316
The story works without any prior knowledge but you'll probably enjoy it more if you have some knowledge of Arthurian legend.

[Anonymous No.12097584]

Now that /lit/ looks like it's coming to an end, I just wanted to say one thing. I've always hated these science fiction/fantasy threads and, more importantly, FUCK all of you niggers. It had been a true pleasure that your mundane, consumption oriented interest in reading was confined to these threads. To offer some consolation, I rank you higher than the undergrad English major DFW and Phillip Roth worshiping niggers.

[Anonymous No.12097594]

>>12097584
Dumb frogposter

[Anonymous No.12097626]

>>12097584
Dumb froggy.

[Anonymous No.12097631]

>>12094262
>Because new thread ain't gonna create itself.
But what if it DID?
Original book idea, don't steal.

[Anonymous No.12097653]

>>12097626

my boss just walked by and she fired me thanks you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.12097662]

>>12097653
Cheer up anon. In a few months you could be a spaz in the warm, sanitized embrace of 4channel where jannies (who do it free btw) will keep bad apples like myself away from you.
Don't forget to click on ads for weeb shit.

[Anonymous No.12097665]

Guys, I just got promoted!

[Anonymous No.12097671]

>>12097665
kek

[Anonymous No.12097696]

>>12096995
yea that one ty very much

[Anonymous No.12097867]

>>12097465
Lyonesse

[Anonymous No.12097890]

Do you know any books with both hard sci-fi AND fantasy elements?

Pic very related.

[Anonymous No.12097944]

>>12097890
Where's the hard sci-fi in A Fire Upon the Deep?

[Anonymous No.12097955]

>>12097944

Closer to the galactic core.

[Anonymous No.12097976]

>>12097509
Chalker is okay. Can't say I've read that particular one of his though.

[Anonymous No.12098012]

Is Borges a Fantasy author?

[Anonymous No.12098015]

>>12096995
thanks

[Anonymous No.12098026]

Will bakker posting be banned on 4channel?

[Anonymous No.12098040]

>>12098012
Magical Realism isn't Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.12098079]

>>12096995
Well shit, thanks anon. I've been trying to get my hands on a copy of Hunters because my kindle informed me it was the last book in the series, now I know not to bother. I'm actually really glad because I couldn't have given less of a shit about Heretics and Chapterhouse and was only trying to finish it out with Hunters for completion's sake. God Emperor = Dune > Messiah >>> Children >>>>>>> the rest.

[Anonymous No.12098088]

>>12097976
>Baen
OhNonono

[Anonymous No.12098108]

>>12098026
Only if someone pays for it.

[Anonymous No.12098132]

>>12098088
Don't be throwing shade on based Baen

[Anonymous No.12098248]

>>12098132
Now that's a hairy pussy

[Anonymous No.12098277]

I've had it with trilogies, tetralogies and long series. What is the best stand alone fantasy book you have read /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.12098314]

>>12098277
Ten Billion Days and One Hundred Billion Nights by Ryu Mitsuse.

[Anonymous No.12098345]

if im going to do the wise asian master trope should I just go all-in and make the magic he teaches require meditation and shit?

yes, its me

[Anonymous No.12098359]

>>12098277
King of Elfland's Daughter
The Broken Sword
Three Hearts Three Lions
The Worm Ouroboros
The Well of the Unicorn
The Well at the World's End
The Dragon Waiting

[Anonymous No.12098497]

>>12095611
A Dead World, which is a Fallout: New Vegas/[PROTOTYPE] fanfiction.

Sorry, not sorry.

[Anonymous No.12098681]

>>12098497
>Sorry, not sorry.
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.12098733]

>>12096715
No they won't. GRRM has it in his will to never finish the series if he dies before completing it. They legally cannot publish a continuation of his series.

[Anonymous No.12098739]

>>12097465
War of the Flowers by Tad Williams.

Most of his work features fae creatures, something of a fixation with him.

[Anonymous No.12099175]

>>12095211
Mists of Avalon. It's problematic now but the ideas in the book are progressive.

[Anonymous No.12099213]

>>12095211
>>12099175
What exactly is "progressive" fantasy?

[Anonymous No.12099241]

>set up this incredible, rich, dark sci-fi world full of intriguing creatures and lore in the first half of the book
>instead of a payoff, the second half is entirely about two lovebirds giggling at each other and they take a jolly stroll back home
Goddamn this shit made me mad.

[Anonymous No.12099265]

Are the rest of the hyperion books past 2 any good? I love them and I've read up to Fall several times now, but the ending always gave me huge "buckle up, I'm about to write some real bullshit" flags, so I never went further.

[Anonymous No.12099283]

>>12099265
Nobody can agree on that, the Endymion books are VERY different from Hyperion books. More linear, more action-packed. I personally love them for world-building alone. You only got glimpses of the worlds beyond planet Hyperion in Hyperion and Fall, the following novels take you on a full carousel ride through the Web and beyond. There's also Federico de Soya, who's almost as based as Paul Dure.

[Anonymous No.12099307]

>>12099241
Because it's basically a world from which there is no escape or victory. It's already over. Might as well take the little pleasures.

[Anonymous No.12099316]

>>12095611
nothing that's /sffg/

[Anonymous No.12099330]

>>12095611
Adjustment Day. It is rubbish.

[Anonymous No.12099342]

>>12097089
Like everyone already said Reddit's problem is the upvote system because it ensures only popular opinions make it to the top. Not to mention absolute karma whores that infest the place and wouldn't dare say something "out of line" out of fear they'll lose their useless points. These two things pretty much quell any legitimate discussion and you're far better off posting here even if it is slower.

[Anonymous No.12099402]

>>12099342
>Excellent: 4
>Good: 2
>OK to bad: the rest
I haven't read them all but I don't want to read a bunch of books on that list.

I'd also shit on a /sffg/ top 25 list

[Anonymous No.12099419]

>>12099402
problem with any "top X" lists is they're always far too general. that means you NEED to include the classics and shit. only way to create a good list is go full autism mode on curated and specifics. only modern fantasy released on per-decade basis, only established classics, historical fantasy gets its own category, etc.

[Anonymous No.12099425]

>>12099342
>4 excellent
Tolkien
Hobb
Kay
Lewis

[Anonymous No.12099507]

>>12099342
>Assassin's Apprentice
Really?

[Anonymous No.12099522]

thoughts on the Night's Dawn trilogy?

[Anonymous No.12099531]

Which Ringworld books apart from Ringworld are worth reading? I really enjoyed it, but heard it goes to shit fast.

[Anonymous No.12099573]

>>12099531
None. Sequel attempts to "correct" some of the issues, but it's not on the same level. Stick to the first book.

[Anonymous No.12099591]

What's the consensus on this?

[Anonymous No.12099603]

Wish Rand would just break Cadsuane's legs the fucking pussy.

[Anonymous No.12099678]

>>12095611

Great Book of Amber by Zelazny.

[Anonymous No.12099709]

>>12098277

[Anonymous No.12099723]

>>12099709
That sounds awfully grimderp. Are you trying to take me on a ruse cruise anon?

>>12099591
Sounds like a hardboiled detective novel in spaaaace.

[Anonymous No.12099747]

>translator is getting married
>no chapter updates for a few days

[Anonymous No.12099753]

>>12099747
Fuck off with your chink shit. If you had any sense you'd be getting married too instead of reading crap.

[Anonymous No.12099756]

>>12099753
i would like to get married too, but there's no one for me to marry

[Anonymous No.12099760]

>>12099756
That's all on you.

[Anonymous No.12099767]

>>12099756
You can marry holograms nowadays, what's stopping you?

[Anonymous No.12099771]

>>12099767
i would probably kill myself first before getting to that point

[Anonymous No.12099784]

>>12099771
Man no one likes a Negative Nancy.

[Anonymous No.12099824]

>>12098015
if only her pussy were hairy

[Anonymous No.12099832]

Should I start with the New Spring instead of The Eye of the World

[Anonymous No.12099837]

>>12099784
what, you want me to lie?

[Anonymous No.12099881]

>>12099832
no

[Anonymous No.12100181]

>>12099213
>>12095218
It's the opposite of libertarian sci-fi

[Anonymous No.12100422]

was this a good deal /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.12100436]

>>12095233
kys

[Anonymous No.12100445]

>>12099342
>Name of the Wind in the second spot
fucking cancer

[Anonymous No.12100462]

>>12100436

[Anonymous No.12100472]

>>12100422
Of course it wasn't.

[Anonymous No.12100476]

>>12099265
No. Don’t read Endymion.

[Anonymous No.12100520]

>>12100422
>audiobook

so what are some audiobook you'd say are on par or even better than straight up reading experience?

[Anonymous No.12100560]

Spy thriller > Horror > Mystery > Science Fiction > Western >>> Fantasy

search your feelings, you know it to be true

[Anonymous No.12100589]

>>12100560
Why not everything?

[Anonymous No.12100592]

I just read a russian litrpg. I had to check the author name but still, I believe these books are churn out by a russian AI who played too much WoW.

[Anonymous No.12100605]

>>12100560
spy thriller and myster are momcore

western is dadcore

horror is littlebrothercore

science fiction is just unsubtle projections of modern day anxieties onto the future, often IN SPAAAAAAAAACE

fantasy is patrician

[Anonymous No.12100616]

>>12100605
spy thrillers are boomercore, they are for people who grew up during the cold war

[Anonymous No.12100624]

>>12095645
patrician taste, friendly tip : make sure all of your tech priest have the skill that gives you one CP at the start of each turn.

[Anonymous No.12100641]

>>12100605
>fantasy is patrician
oh no no no no no

fantasy is bottom of the barrel even by genre fiction standards, every hack tries to get into fantasy because it has the youngest readership base and no real rules on what you can do

[Anonymous No.12100656]

>>12100624
Oh I got that one, it was too game breaking not to get (meaning you are fucked without it). I would also take the +6 cognition points canticle on the next turn for the phosphorus rape train.
Have you been able to finish the Grave Goods mission (given by that little rat Scaevola)? I am unable to deploy the troops and get connection lost message.

[Anonymous No.12100662]

>>12095003
Dark is the Sun, Philip Jose Farmer

[Anonymous No.12101092]

>>12094394
This life is way too long anyways

[Anonymous No.12101098]

>>12094479
I finished Poppy War recently and I really liked the heroine. She's a bit of a Sue at the beginning but it gets better and towards the end she's a downright cunt.

[Anonymous No.12101128]

>>12100560
Name 5 genuinely good spy thrillers.

[Anonymous No.12101136]

>>12098345
Fucking stop with that shit, it's awful and bland

[Anonymous No.12101181]

>>12101128
Tinder Tailor Solider Spy
Our Man in Havana
Epitaph for a Spy
The Riddle of the Sands
The Quiet American

[Anonymous No.12101196]

>>12101181
I've read one of those and it was actually genuinely good. I assume that goes for the others as well and now do not consider spy thrillers absolute garbage anymore. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.12101204]

>>12095397
Newfag spotted

[Anonymous No.12101221]

>>12095611
Groundhogs-Day-at-Wizard-School web novel called Mother of Learning. It's pretty good. Time looping done right.

[Anonymous No.12101341]

>>12099241
Don't forget that it's written like a juvenile describing an exciting trip to the park or perhaps a winning game of Fortnite.

[Anonymous No.12101531]

>>12098733
>implying Jewish lawyers won’t be able to do whatever they want
I means it’s cute you’re this naive

[Anonymous No.12101681]

>>12101341
it quickly becomes clear he was writing about his waifu

[Anonymous No.12101788]

>>12094681
Mad Max is pure shit.
It was the worst fucking movie I saw in years. Nothing happens.
When you ask people about it they always talk about "flamethrower guitar" and "metal aesthetics". What a load of crook.
I wish I could get my time back. We already have enough books where nothing happens. We don't need one with spray paint fetishists.

[Anonymous No.12101805]

>>12100462
So two guys in trap are tonguing each other, while pretending to be the same person. So it's gay incest with yourself?

[Anonymous No.12101808]

I'm a Tolkienfag, but I'm really wanting to read some sort of space opera at the moment. any recommendations for something where everything is centered on the ships/actually being in space? my understanding of something like Dune is that it almost all takes place on a planet, which I don't really want. I'd like to read something that really captures the scale of space.

[Anonymous No.12101861]

Any scifi books about races that use tech made by their ancestors that they no longer understand, like in wh40k.

[Anonymous No.12101898]

What do you lads thing, currently on book three

[Anonymous No.12101909]

>>12101898
book 1 and 3 are the only ones you should read

[Anonymous No.12101920]

>>12101788
I agree, it's a terrible franchise that runs entirely on its aesthetic

[Anonymous No.12101943]

>>12101788
I always found The Postman superior. Then again, wasteland never appealed to me.

[Anonymous No.12101957]

>>12101861
BotNS
o
t
N
S

[Anonymous No.12101969]

>>12094262
OP's pic from an actual book or just a fantasy art pinterest?

1/3 in to pic and i'm enjoying it so far, Napoleon war except nations also have dragons, British Naval captain bonds a dragon hatchling and has to switch to the airforce

[Anonymous No.12101975]

>>12101808
Uplift Saga

[Anonymous No.12101980]

>>12101861
Heritage Universe

[Anonymous No.12101981]

>>12101975
>murder mystery on a space station
>intelligent dolphins bent on rape
>gorilla (hehehe) warfare as earth gets invaded

it sure is a weird trilogy

[Anonymous No.12101997]

>>12094394
>not listening to audiobooks during commute/shower/cooking & cleaning
it fills dead time

[Anonymous No.12102032]

>>12101975
>Uplift Saga

Underrated. I think I skipped the new trilogy for some reason.

[Anonymous No.12102066]

>>12101969
Female author skip

[Anonymous No.12102071]

>>12099265
depends if you like pedophilia and hate Catholics. if yes you'll get a love story that hops several planets and a sad/happy ending

[Anonymous No.12102073]

>>12095233
Wraeththu

[Anonymous No.12102087]

>>12101997
>T. Average iq

[Anonymous No.12102100]

>>12102066
so far its all navy talk and dragon bonding. only females characters so far are the MC's mother and the woman he's no longer going to marry, who only appear because he flies back home to say "hi i'm off to scotland and i'm no longer a navy captain"

[Anonymous No.12102109]

>>12102087
so what do you do whilst you drive to work? listen to the radio?

[Anonymous No.12102127]

>>12101969
I read this when it came out but never finished the series, got about halfway. Quite enjoyable desu. I've considered reading some of her newer books but they seem a little to much like YA so I've put it off.

[Anonymous No.12102133]

>>12102109
Read a book, God gave me two eyes for a reason.

[Anonymous No.12102176]

>>12102109
Not OP, but I usually listen to the radio, yeah. I find audiobooks hard to concentrate on. I have some thrillers, mysteries, and westerns to listen to when my eyes give out. They work well because I don't care about the story very much. SFF I might listen to if I've already read the book.

[Anonymous No.12102187]

>>12101196
I got into spy books recently and some of them are great, it's just nobody on /lit/ talks about them

[Anonymous No.12102201]

>>12102109
I think.

[Anonymous No.12102213]

>>12102201
every time i do that i think about turning into oncoming traffic

[Anonymous No.12102218]

>>12095611
reading Shadow of the Torturer right now and struggling a bit
I don't think Gene Wolf is for me if he always writes like that

[Anonymous No.12102222]

>>12102213
Me too.

[Anonymous No.12102231]

>>12102218
he is very much a postmodern writer who happens to use science fiction/fantasy settings

if you prefer straightforward storytelling Gene Wolfe won't be to your liking

[Anonymous No.12102247]

>>12095611
I just finished Chronicles of the Black company. What a great series. I hear the Books of the South aren't as good but I may give them a shot anyway.

Don't have anything to read at the moment, might go back to light novels and manga for a while. Been reading fantasy for the last 3 months.

[Anonymous No.12102251]

>>12101920
>franchise
...There's more than one?

[Anonymous No.12102254]

>>12102251
How old are you?

[Anonymous No.12102256]

>>12102251
Are you serious?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_(franchise)

[Anonymous No.12102257]

>>12102251
Are you underage?

[Anonymous No.12102261]

>>12102251
are you telling me you watched fury road and thought that is all there is to the series?
shit nigga you are missing the glory of the thunderdome.

[Anonymous No.12102263]

>>12095611
The Best Science Fiction and Fantasy of the Year: Volume Twelve
Skimming through, some nice stories, like the charming story “The Smoke of Gold is Glory” by Scott Lynch, which was a really nice surprise, in addition to the dose of Alastair Reynolds I picked up the book for.
Kinda weird to read short works after all these deep dives into world building and series-long set-ups.

[Anonymous No.12102284]

>>12102254
29. Only saw the Road fury shit because everyone was raving about it.
I didn't care enough to search up on it's prequels or sequels.

[Anonymous No.12102307]

>>12101957
Read it. Great stuff. Want more but probably with more scifi.

[Anonymous No.12102315]

Has anyone read pic related?
I love how it spans millennia and how inhuman the protagonists are.

[Anonymous No.12102328]

>>12102247
Lady or Soulcatcher

[Anonymous No.12102486]

>>12102263

How does that rank as an anthology? I've kind of held off of short stories and anthologies as a whole because when I was younger I demanded more pages per dollar and hoped for more consistency, but I've come to realize that the sci-fi short story is a superb format.

[Anonymous No.12102520]

>>12101788
>action movie is shallow
Wow tell us more

>>12101969
I lieked book 1 and will continue later. I've heard the series ends badly but that's what happens when you milk a franchise for 9 books.

[Anonymous No.12102536]

>>12095385
a beautiful faux-haiku, anon.

[Anonymous No.12102652]

/r/ing the right-wing fantasy and sci-fi charts

[Anonymous No.12102660]

>>12102284
Go watch mad max this instant you invalid

[Anonymous No.12102709]

It's been so long since a book has made me go "wow" and that I couldn't stop reading. I either find things alright or boring nowadays. Anyone else know this feel? A-Am I growing out of SFF?

[Anonymous No.12102713]

>>12102660
I watched it, it was shit.
I'm not an Americlap. I don't find flaming music trucks and spray paint masks appealing.

[Anonymous No.12102732]

>>12102713
It's australian

[Anonymous No.12102741]

>>12102709
yeah you are
try blindsight

[Anonymous No.12102742]

>>12102709
maybe you're a bit burned out on it

variety is the spice of life, read a mystery novel or something you don't usually read

[Anonymous No.12102748]

>>12102713
The second movie in the series is ok

[Anonymous No.12102756]

>>12102660
>Actually bothering to respond
It is either a troll or a retard. You will just lose your time replying.

[Anonymous No.12102845]

Opinions on Patricia McKillip? Where should one start with her?

[Anonymous No.12102851]

>>12102713
Why does this board have to attract basedboys and contrarians?

[Anonymous No.12102900]

>>12099241
Night Land is really underrated as a work of waifu literature.

[Anonymous No.12102910]

>>12102845

The major work she's known for would be the Riddle-Master books, which are fine.

But the book I first read of hers, which was given to me at far too young of an age, is The Forgotten Beasts of Eld, which remains my favorite work for subjective reasons.

[Anonymous No.12102914]

>>12102910
>too young for a fantasy book written by a roastie
lmao

[Anonymous No.12102940]

NEW THREAD

>>12102937
>>12102937
>>12102937
>>12102937

[Anonymous No.12103032]

>>12102486
I have only read part of the stories, but they have been interesting so far. Some pretty good. The audio book narrators are different for the stories, which is OK. Then again there's no buyers remorse if you get a copy for free on the internet.

[Anonymous No.12103103]

>>12095211
LeGuinn's Tehanu 100% fits that bill.

[Anonymous No.12103298]

>>12102709
what were the books that made you say "wow"?

>>12102845
I read the first two of the Riddle Master trilogy. She doesn't do the usual quest in this series and the magic system is unique. I think her prose is kind of weird but other ppl seem to like it. I think this series isn't for me but I'm willing to finish the last book sometime to see if it pays off at the end.

>>12102851
You know how 4chan has containment boards? 4chan itself is a containment site.