Insta poetess

[Anonymous No.12082183]

Any opinions?
IG: gretabellamacina

>mfw my uni course on poetry unironically includes her as part of the syllabus to have a fair share of 'poetry of the generation'

[Anonymous No.12082203]

Pic related. Her latest post/poem.

[Anonymous No.12082221]

>>12082203
:( i feel so sorry for art

[Anonymous No.12082270]

>>12082203
It's almost "good". Btfos Savannah and Pupi. It's like a freshman Sylvia Plath with low technical skill and severely lacking in daddy angst

[Anonymous No.12082349]

>Actress/Poetess

She apparently was in a Harry Potter movie as a Slytherin.

[Anonymous No.12082413]

>actress
>poet
>model
>reviews in local arts newspaper sections

looks like astroturfed garbage by a pr company paid for by daddy

[Anonymous No.12082448]

>>12082203
is it even possible to write a good poem about being fucked by a black man

[Anonymous No.12082499]

>>12082203
>bathing out the reality TV government

[Anonymous No.12082597]

>poetess
what in the fuck

[Anonymous No.12082606]

>>12082597
more like roastess

[Anonymous No.12082621]

>>12082203
evocative in places

[Anonymous No.12082663]

>>12082203
That has more artistic merit than retards like Kaur but it still isn't what I would call good. Seems like the poetry equivalent of YA fiction, but something closer to HP than Twilight (is twilight YA?)

[Anonymous No.12082783]

>>12082448
c'mon bruh

[Anonymous No.12082787]

>>12082203
It's not that bad. She's even white and I wish her to sit on my face.

[Anonymous No.12082794]

>>12082597

[Anonymous No.12082796]

>>12082183
And just when you forgot about how you hate roasties for a second, there's some faggot on 4chan to remind you.

[Anonymous No.12083074]

>>12082203
It's not that bad really.

[Anonymous No.12083089]

>>12082203
It is not bad, but it is on the level of hundreds of thousands of other wannabe poets. She gets attention cause of her looks.

[Anonymous No.12083093]

>>12082183
somnambulist joey buttafuoco
plagued with dystentary
externalized Thucydides
congealing upon the bathroom floor
hard water stains crusted over the linens
fermenting embroidery
lilacs daisy-chains
ergonomic fertilization
inconsequential quickening fulminate
culminate
a fancy for jailbait
licentious and obliging
biannual rigor mortise
dovetail noninflammable
parched passions low
infuriating erroneous model method
peculiarities circumnavigating nuclear vestibules
crown jewels achievement
harangue sesquicentennial septuagenarian
uninvolved malady
bromide
harmonious cataclysm
rapturous Golgotha
Guggenheim institute of ministerial awkwardness
perching gyrating polka dot miniskirt
curtailing rapscallion
barnacle querulous
austere affectation meandering
horticultural zygote
malignant vulvar growth dispensed
dispatched
disengaged
rectified
intensification
reliable testimony
hand raised jaws lack conscientious vertebrae
ignominious personification
erstwhile erudite tabernacle demystification
disenchanted disillusionment
capricious condescension
subcutaneous lechery
mild upper-middle-class bildungsroman der wissenschaft wahrheit weltanschauung mit gottlieb angst und grosse feuer
morose melancholy
involuntarily discharged sputum spermatozoon intermingling riptide
revealing regulatory radio-therapeutic hermeneutic interpolation
recovery resistance
hysterical hypotenuse
beleaguered killjoy maintaining presentable appearances
divisive maladjustment coinciding catastrophe
diphtheria festooning intestinal masonry
ingrown artisanal gerrymandering flout bilateral pulmonary edema
enigmatic vehicular homicide via horse-drawn buggy down bad stretch of road in Mennonite village
Episcopalian doppelgangers
masquerading marauders heaping decomposition pile amid tall stalks green with spring fertilization
subdued carrying carrion crawling with necrotizing fasciitis
inconsiderate domicile vagabond
globular pustules weeping at the sight of the lamb brought to slaughter
shivers insinuate hypoglycemic wrathful deities
contemporaneous procedures inarticulate

[Anonymous No.12083104]

And you find the queen bee dried up
Like the summer you barely shrugged,
And breathless and breathless
You fall asleep but don't die.

[Anonymous No.12083563]

>>12083093
I get you point. Did you collect all these words for a particular other reason?

[Anonymous No.12083713]

If I were a woman
I'd probably
Wonder what I'd be like as a man

[Anonymous No.12083723]

>>12082203
No a single line that I'd rescue from a fire nor one that I'd care to have written myself.

[Anonymous No.12083738]

>>12082203
Put Wallace Stevens' name at the end of it and nobody here would have a problem with it.

[Anonymous No.12083742]

>>12082203
Where are the fucking rhymes?

[Anonymous No.12083746]

>>12083713
If I were a woman I'd metoo every guy I know and get impregnated by a soundcloud rapper

[Anonymous No.12083783]

>>12083738
t. never read Wallace Stevens

[Anonymous No.12083790]

Lines, etched in notebook paper -
Tight and jangled down the page.
Everything this Gretchen writes
Fills me with a numbing rage!

Poetry is not a rogel,
Baked fresh in the Argentine.
Substituting form for craft
Is not like like using Margarine.

Were she all but half so sweet,
Or were her skin not quite so pale,
Our Instagramming poetess
Would find herself destined to fail.

And would she, we might want to ask,
Not find her task a sight more scary
Without her faithful ghostwriter -
Mr. Dictionary!

[Anonymous No.12083797]

Henlo moder
Henlo fader
Here I M at
Camp grenater

[Anonymous No.12084144]

Google image search straight jock guys

[Anonymous No.12084471]

>>12082203
Are the people saying "this isn't bad" joking? It's literally "dreamy descriptive idea + ordinary object." I don't bust this out often enough, but it's middle school tier.

[Anonymous No.12084481]

>>12083738
Can't be people just suck outside of their gender identity or notoriety?

[Anonymous No.12084484]

>>12083738
Can't people just suck outside of their gender identity or notoriety?

[Anonymous No.12084858]

>>12083738
I have never seen a Wallace Stevens poem that would at once include lines of five and fourteen syllables.
>>12082203
mediocre, and the reality tv government line could not be more out of place
>>12083790
but this might be even worse

[Anonymous No.12084882]

>>12082203
This isn't even coherent enough to be bad. It reads like one of those early developmental AIs meant to write poetry but end up regurgitating random words but with technically lined up subject-adjective-tense associations and the like. It is comically affected, but in a way which produces no laughter.

[Anonymous No.12084919]

>>12084882
>>12084471

You guys summed it up good. The reason I posted that poem instead of a blatantly bad one like pic related was basically to point out how the usage of what appears to be a good language and form (relatively :rupi: speaking) is actually just a facade. The poem doesn't evoke any sort of emotion and doesn't seem to even try to say something. The thing is very shallow and seeks attention for itself.

[Anonymous No.12084934]

>>12084919
Also, fuck the prof for putting me through the hell of writing 600 words analyzing her poetry as a 'feminist linguistic rebellion against the oppressive patriarchal forms and ideals'.

[Anonymous No.12085030]

>>12082203
>everything lives unnerved
okay..
>tiny cups and scissors hungover
what?
>lilies in heaven marching in glass on the table
huh? why do I have to try and decipher such a shitty line..???
>our child arranging the sky, sleeping between the doorway
cute. (why sleeping between the doorway tho but nvm)
>blue garments on ocean on the bedroom floor
eh..

>your scent a kind of black under heaven
>all raging and soft
You can't just contrast everything and think it's good. His raging and soft scent is a kind of black under heaven? Am I dumb? Or is this just bad..???
>breaking the tracks of summer
mmkay
>a chapel in the fourth wall
>always lit up and nursing
somewhat nice imagery, but still shitty

>I have become larger in it
in what
>a new kind of warm ash
>burning up the edges
WHAT
>and bathing out the reality TV government
ugh at least it makes perfect sense. I get what this means. Not like the raging and soft scent that is a kind of black under heaven.
>I have become more winged
right wing? more free? more winged? this is just shitty writing.

>we barely notice the ceiling falling into our bed
ok I'm done. I've reached peak cringe, can't go on.This is shite.

PLease..PLEASE someone defend this woman's poetry. How and why do you think this is good? How and why do you think others think it's good?

Is there more to her poetry, than her instagram popularity, her beautiful looks, her aesthetic pictures? I'm assuming people like the "poetry" because it has pretty words and contrast and a familiar rhythm. Not because it has any depth or novelty or great imagery or... anything a good poem would have. How am I supposed to be moved by this? What the hell is going on?

It reads like one of those fridge poems that you create with random words from a pack of 160 small "poetic" magnets with words on em.

[Anonymous No.12085038]

>>12082183
>Instagram
Unironically fuck those normies

[Anonymous No.12085042]

>>12082203
This is terrible, but then again, so is everything in poetry generals here. At least this bitch looks cute.

[Anonymous No.12085203]

>>12082183
id fuck her

[Anonymous No.12085237]

>>12082794
Words can be fucking stupid and still be present in some internet dictionary, or even one with authority. Doesn't make them less stupid.

[Anonymous No.12085255]

>>12082203
>we live in one room
>the BT tower our lighthouse
gah! those london property prices eh?

[Anonymous No.12085266]

>>12082203
Wow, Americans really do have the handwriting of children. How long do you take handwrite anything if you have to (unnecessarily) take your pen of the page for every letter?

[Anonymous No.12085280]

>>12085266
unfortunately, she's british

[Anonymous No.12085283]

>>12085266
Are you having a stroke? She’s a fucking brit.
Remember everyone, if it’s “subversive” or defies expectations, it’s good and can’t be critiqued because oppressed-caste expression is inherently artistic

[Anonymous No.12085295]

>>12082606
underrated, based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.12085313]

>>12085283
>>12085280
Ah really? I'm a brit, around the same age as her, and never knew anyone my age who didn't join up their letters when they wrote.

[Anonymous No.12085315]

wew

[Anonymous No.12085328]

>>12082448
There's that Anon who's writing Cucktopia

[Anonymous No.12085362]

>>12085315
>Chanel lipstick
Basic af. You can buy much better lipsticks for that price.

[Anonymous No.12085384]

>>12085315
Did she just list her own fucking book as a favourite?

[Anonymous No.12085394]

>>12082203
Eh. It peaks in the first stanza and then becomes generic. Not much thematic substance either.

[Anonymous No.12085398]

>>12085315
Thought it was one of these 'starter kit' memes for a basic bitch. Well, it is.

[Anonymous No.12085449]

>>12084919
"oh man, the internet age is killing us young folks, but at the same time I have 28K followers, bitches"

[Anonymous No.12085468]

>>12085449
>literal 30 year old boomer
>young folk

[Anonymous No.12085471]

>>12084919
>>12082203
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE RHYME

[Anonymous No.12085488]

>>12085468
30 year olds aren't that old. They aren't flossing or anything, but still.

[Anonymous No.12085502]

>>12085488
>30 year olds aren't that old. They aren't flossing or anything, but still.

[Anonymous No.12085530]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Montgomery_(artist)

lmao her husband wrote his own wikipedia article

[Anonymous No.12085555]

>>12082203
>Nov 2016
>mfw she's been writing this poem for nearly two years now.

[Anonymous No.12085576]

>>12082203
It has enough words and vague enough imagery to look like actual poetry, while most instapoetry is simply ordinary thoughts typeset as poems. Sloppy handwriting helps with the vagueness thing.

>t. I felt smart for noticing allusions to lesbianism in the first stanza (cups, scissors, lily, etc) until I read 'two mothers 'in the ending.

[Anonymous No.12085606]

>>12085030
Reaction videos are a bad format for litetary critic, whatever the poem.

>>12085038
>fuck those normies
Sadly, they fuck each others—thanks to Instagram.

[Anonymous No.12085636]

We desperately need the return of formalism in poetry. A new age of poets with a sordid classical education. No more free verse.

[Anonymous No.12085648]

>>12085636
Free verse is mistakely understood as a sloppy attempt at shapelessness

[Anonymous No.12085658]

Why is there no good instagram poetry?

I worry that the convention is actually to be shit and non-threatening and cynically shareable/likeable. What would happen if someone good came along?

[Anonymous No.12085672]

>>12085658
In a society of spectacle with the ego as the core, nothing of value can be produced; only echoes of trite platitudes.

[Anonymous No.12085697]

>>12085672
t. mindlessly repeats opinions received from books

[Anonymous No.12085709]

>>12085658
Instagram is absolutely not the platform for any kind of literary endeavour. If a capable poet is out to make a name for himself, he wouldn't do it in tasteless circles where a trite moron is as likely to be celebrated as a genuine genius. A trained painter wouldn't visit a high school arts class for criticism on his technique.

[Anonymous No.12085717]

>>12085658
Bc Instagram is all about appearance so poetry just has to look like poetry. It's simple, and it's not like amateurish attempts at poetry never existed before the invention of social networks.

[Anonymous No.12085747]

>>12085709
Someone I know was telling me instagram is popular for London literary scene and that I should use it as a way to build a platform.

[Anonymous No.12085781]

>>12082203
I challenge anyone to explain why this isn't complete garbage, meaningless word salad, pathetic abuse of the english language

[Anonymous No.12085897]

>>12085781
>I challenge anyone to change my mind
That probably means you don't want your mind changed

[Anonymous No.12085908]

>>12085709

I don't disagree with you at all but as far as networking goes and meeting people, if you're in the arts these days you're expected to have an instagram

[Anonymous No.12087154]

>>12085636
Formalism was delighted by free verse and not really in favour of "classical" education. Maybe you're the one who needs education.

>>12085030
Poetry since the beginning of the 20th century has become very abstract. No, you cannot "decipher" this sort of poems, and you're not meant to.

[Anonymous No.12087195]

>>12085384

[Anonymous No.12087237]

>>12085697

Try to prove him wrong, Shlomo.

[Anonymous No.12087321]

>>12087154
>>>/lgbt/

Poetry has always been evocative of emotion, regardless of anything else. If the shit is literally meaningless then it doesn't make any emotion. This poem fails at being poetry in the most basic sense, and doesn't even have the good grace to keep a nice flow.

[Anonymous No.12087334]

>>12087154
>Formalism was delighted by free verse and not really in favour of "classical" education.
Picasso didn't start out painting the weird shit that made him famous, anon. You should know the rules of an artform before you decide to break them.

[Anonymous No.12087343]

You can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.12087355]

>>12085658
There could be. In fact, it's the poet's job to keep a language alive and snobbing a new and effective medium of communication would be backward. But instagrammers are usually more interested in seeking attention and praise.

[Anonymous No.12087408]

>>12087343
This is like bathing in your own shit (or in this case, Greta's shit) and then complimenting yourself for being cleanly.

[Anonymous No.12087414]

>>12087321
So, first of all, not once did I argue for this abstract sort of poetry being the ideal style.
Second of all, I never said that this particular poem is a good example of modern poetry.
Third of all, poetry hasn't "always been evocative of emotion" (I fucking hate faggots like you who think they're smart and make sweeping statements about the history of literature that you know nothing about). If you're so obsessed with your feefees, maybe you're the faggot here.
Fourth of all, making sense is not a prerequisite for art having an emotional effect on you. Instrumental music is meaningless as much as possible, yet it affects us quite strongly.

>>12087334
I am saying what formalism, formalist theoreticians, believed to be true. Don't know why you're replying to me as if those were my own claims. Maybe you're an idiot?

[Anonymous No.12087426]

>>12087414
Because I infered from your post that you're a fan of nonsense. No one goes on 4chan to play impartial arbitrator or to "set the record straight".

[Anonymous No.12087427]

>>12082203
I think the first bit is about an abortion lads.

[Anonymous No.12087432]

>>12082794
Poetaster, more like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetaster

[Anonymous No.12087613]

>>12087426
I actually do go to 4chan to be the impartial arbitrator. I've read a book or two and it's fun correcting people who haven't even done that, no matter their position on a topic.
Both formalism and modern poetry are topics that I'm quite interested in and whose key criticisms I'm also familiar with. Criticisms much more coherent and legitimate than the ones I've been replying to here. But I wouldn't call myself a fan of that sort of poetry, and I'm only tentatively in agreement with formalism.
I'd sooner say that you're just illiterate than that you've "inferred" anything intellingent.