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Thoughts?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6376275/PETER-HITCHES-Soldiers-No-Britain-lost-700-000-poets-teachers-inventors-fathers.html

>> No.12071323

>>12071313
Stan lee is FUCKING DEAD

>> No.12071329

the people who are still alive can go fuck themselves though, of course

>> No.12071432

>>12071313
Not nearly enough

>> No.12071466

/lit/ - Literature

>> No.12071578

no they would be factory workers or peasants like the rest of the brits in that age.

They chose to die as heros because that would be a million times better than living like that faggot brit Hitchens

>> No.12071598

>>12071578
There truly is nothing more detestable than a life of wage slaving.

>> No.12071645

>>12071598
>There truly is nothing more detestable than a life of wage slaving.
What makes you say this? What if you have to provide for you children?

>> No.12071656

>>12071313
Reminder that anglos literally aren't people but two legged swine.

>> No.12071662

>>12071598
I'd rather die in a trench than be a wagie in 1910s brittain

>> No.12071667

>>12071645
homestead, create your own wealth.

slaving for a wage isn't the only option

>> No.12071679

>>12071662
*21st century Britain

>> No.12071694

>>12071679
I'd rather die in a trench than even set foot in 21st century Britain

>> No.12071711
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>Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern. They were born, they grew up in the gutters, they went to work at twelve, they passed through a brief blossoming-period of beauty and sexual desire, they married at twenty, they were middle-aged at thirty, they died, for the most part, at sixty. Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbours, films, football, beer and, above all, gambling, filled up the horizon of their minds.
>It was not desirable that the proles should have strong political feelings. All that was required of them was a primitive patriotism which could be appealed to whenever it was necessary to make them accept longer working-hours. And even when they became discontented, as they sometimes did, their discontent led nowhere, because, being without general ideas, they could only focus it on petty specific grievances. The larger evils invariably escaped their notice.

>> No.12071761

>>12071656
If that's the case I don't even want to know what that makes everyone else.

>> No.12071769

>>12071323
f

>> No.12071811

>>12071761
people

>> No.12071823
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True

>> No.12072013

>>12071823
>Hodgson joined the University of London's Officers' Training Corps. Refusing to have anything to do with the sea despite his experience and Third Mate's certificate, he received a commission as a lieutenant in the Royal Artillery. In 1916, he was thrown from a horse and suffered a broken jaw and a serious head injury; he received a mandatory discharge, and returned to writing.

>Refusing to remain on the sidelines, Hodgson recovered sufficiently to re-enlist. His published articles and stories from the time reflect his experience in war. He was killed by the direct impact of an artillery shell at the Fourth Battle of Ypres in April 1918; sources suggest either the 17th or 19th. He was eulogized in The Times on 2 May 1918.
Imagine cucking off to war

>> No.12072019

This is a book board

>> No.12072029

>>12071667
Please faggot. You have to buy property or completely isolate yourself from society to homestead. Squatting is a legitimate option but cops will come and pepper spray you our of your home so the real estate investors can go about with raping the land. Capitalism is omnipresent, they will drive us idel loafers to extinction.
Also, homesteading is not easy at all.

>> No.12072074

>>12071711
CAHM ON INGERLAND SCORE SUM FACKIN' GOALS

>> No.12072647

>>12071694
>I'd rather die in a trench than even set foot in 21st century Britain
Why?

>> No.12072673

The whole war was a waste of time, life, and resources. BiH was rightfully under Austrian rule and the bankers that fueled the war are some of the most evil men to ever live.

>> No.12072859

>>12071313
>Both the Blair creature and David Cameron treated me quite badly at press conferences, by refusing to take my questions. Blair once told me, unsuccessfully, to sit down and stop being bad.
>the Blair creature

>> No.12072995
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>Britain then
>>>Britain now

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>>12072995
>>>>Britain now

>> No.12074592

>>12071578
>they chose

lel

>> No.12074657

The British entered two world wars that did not concern them by their own volition, were instrumental in turning these limited wars into extended world wars by forcing the involvement of the third world and then the US into European power struggles and 100 years later they still cannot stop orbiting around it all.

>> No.12074675

>>12074657
>dude just let the Nazis conquer the world

>> No.12074698

>>12074532
sickening

>> No.12074699

>>12074675
Imagine being in 2018 and thinking the Nazis wanted to or even would have been able to "conquer the world", whatever that means. The only country that one could argue has conquered the world is the US, and solely thanks to the British making it possible.

>> No.12074704

>>12074675
>allies had moral superiority

>> No.12074713

>>12074675
Not a nazi, but the world would be a better place had both the communists and liberals been smashed to smithereens. No capitalism, no zionism, no liberalism, no cultural leftism.

The bad guys won WW2.

>> No.12074719

>>12074675
>Implying there has ever been a war fought by humans which could accurately be described as good vs. evil

>> No.12074733

>>12074713
The Nazis were liberals, hombre. Their only argument with the USA was about who gets to steal from the plebs.

>> No.12074743

>all these samefagging nazi apologist posts
Looks like you took a wrong turn anon, let me help you.
>>>/pol/

>> No.12074759

>>12074719
What about the Chinese Civil War?

>> No.12074771

>>12074759
I said "fought by humans"

>> No.12074890

>>12074771
Rude and meanpilled.

>> No.12074894

>>12074759
if you mean Nationalist vs. Communist, it was between a quasi-lenninist authoritarian state which already began political purges and the communist party
How is that "good vs. evil"

>> No.12075087

>>12072995
>>12074532
imagine having a third of your 18-35yo males dying for this
we French did this
thanks chauvinists, thanks masons, thanks Serbia, thanks kikes

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>>12074890
hello chang

>> No.12075324

>>12075202
Never understood people who post videos of certain races acting like animals as evidence for their racist views.

There are videos of every race acting like savages. Even your own race believe it or not.

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>>12075324
Gas. The. Humans. Race. War. Now.

>> No.12075409

>>12071313
>Britain lost 700,000 poets, teachers, inventors
Pure ideology

>> No.12075453

>>12071313
This is true. I always think of Tolkien, who served at the Somme, one of the bloodiest battles in human history.
Imagine if he had died, there would be no Lord of the Rings, and no modern fantasy genre as we know it.
Imagine how many other authors died that would have gone on to write books as important as LotR and the Hobbit, and how many genres they would have created. So much lost potential.
Not to mention the huge loss of life that completely transformed Britain, including the transfer of power to w*men.

>> No.12075480

>>12074657
The World Wars very much concerned the British.
It could be argued that the British masterminded both World Wars because they wanted superiority over the world, they wanted to bring America back into the fold of the British Empire, and the Great War was a way of dealing with their main rivals, the Germans. Of course it was no fault of the Germans, they simply got too strong and powerful for their own good, in both WW1 and WW2, and the idiots in charge of our country (I say this as a Brit) were so short-sighted and stupid, in that they destroyed the British Empire and in fact all of Europe, TWICE, just to destroy the Germans out of spite.

In the words of Hubert Lyautey, French Resident-General in Morocco, as a reaction to the outbreak of the Great War.
>They are completely mad. A war between Europeans is a civil war. This is the most monumental foolishness that they have ever done.

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>>12074675

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>>12071323
ill miss him

>> No.12075522

>>12075485
>13 colonies missing

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>>12071323

>> No.12076021

>>12075485
Gee, I wonder why they even call it World War 2 then?

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>>12075485
Pic related, saying nothing of Vichy France or the East-Asia theater.

>> No.12076036

>>12075485
They literally talk about changing the world order in their literature.

>> No.12076037

>>12071313
Take this shit to /pol/

>> No.12076573

>>12075324
>There are videos of every race acting like savages
I don't just mean the beating
Every single person in that video just watches him beat her to death, some slowly walk off, others stand and watch, others just go about their business. You honestly think the same would've happened in a European country? In broad daylight? In the 21st century?
No only in a place like China and it happens often

>> No.12077644

braap

>> No.12077678

>>12076573
seppo here. 100% could happen in the western world. go back to pol

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>the mail on sunday

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>>12076033
oh no they invaded the countries that declared war on them and took precautions against total imminent destruction

>inb4 pooland
belligerent government and past grievances, Hitler wanting to conquer the world, Antartica and then the solar system is a boomer meme

>> No.12077974

>>12076573
the chinese people have a noble history, i would ask you not to judge them only by their modern overpopulated incarnations. anyone would decay under those circumstances

>> No.12077994

>>12077974
I agree.

>> No.12078018

>>12077974
Aye Chinese people have thousands of years of history and culture and all it took was one man to reduce mainlanders to uncivilised pigs.
Most diaspora Chinese hate mainlanders.
And he is absolutely right in that the scenarios in those liveleak videos you occasionally see, in which people just walk past some sort of violent crime, would not happen anywhere else.
People in European countries would certainly intervene in those cases.

China is due a population implosion regardless, and I do hope that a nobler race emerges from the ruins.

>> No.12078025

>>12078018
>I do hope that a nobler race emerges from the ruins.
lmao you dumbo
the chinese way of life will spread worldwide, even worse than it is now

>> No.12078046

>>12078025
I dunno man. I just feel that these modern civilisations won't last for much longer.
If we run out of fuel, oil, antibiotics, potassium for fertiliser, topsoil for crops, any of that, then they will collapse, especially considering how interconnected the world is nowadays.
We could also be due some some sort of global pandemic event like kind of flu, like the Spanish Flu/influenza, that will probably come from some hive city in China, and that will absolutely decimate our population.
The planet is not meant to sustain 7.5 billion, and Nature will always eventually restore equilibrium.

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>>12078046
The planned future takes all of that into account and then some. The androgynized, homogenized subhuman unit of the future will subsist on insects fed their own excrement. Artificial intelligence run on quantum supercomputers will ensure they never expend any more resources than necessary, and they'll be so mentally broken by the drugs and programming that they'll never resist until they're fully integrated with the IT infrastructure philosopher's stone, that the adept magicians will use to merge us all with the Godhead.

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>>12077742
Germans were the self-appointed ethnic cleaners of the world. It's insane to suggest they viewed nations beyond their immediate reach with indifference. Everyone knew what they planned. A speech from Roosevelt:
>https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/WorldWar2/fdr24.htm
>Nazi forces are not seeking mere modifications in colonial maps or in minor European boundaries. They openly seek the destruction of all elective systems of government on every continent-including our own; they seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers who have seized power by force.
>These men and their hypnotized followers call this a new order. It is not new. It is not order. For order among nations presupposes something enduring-some system of justice under which individuals, over a long period of time, are willing to live. Humanity will never permanently accept a system imposed by conquest and based on slavery.
I can't even imagine the mortification and disgust of your forefathers if they could but hear your pathetic nazi apologetics, especially if they somehow were Nazis themselves (unlikely, since only delusional larping faggots take up said banner) who knew first hand how evil and despicable that regime was that who were themselves both its victims and perpetrators.

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>>12078123
>Roosevelt said it so it must be true

>> No.12078240

>>12078195
>See this guy breaking every treaty and invading other countries? Brutally murdering and torturing people as he goes? Yeah, he's harmless. Ignore all that rhetoric about the master race and the cleansing of the subhumans. I know he called all of America subhumans, don't worry, he's their pal. I know he just betrayed some of his pals, don't worry about it, he's a good guy.
What compels someone to post such stupid shameless garbage, anon? I'm honestly curious, why do you do it?

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>>12078240
I'm not even the guy who posted that.
You're just a retard eating up the other side's propaganda.
Hitler wasn't blameless but at the end of the day, the Nazis were absolutely not trying to conquer the world.
If anything, that title belongs to the British.

>> No.12079702

>>12078123
The guy who dropped two nukes on civilians in the largest Christian centers in Japan said so...

>> No.12079831

>>12078240

To question Roosevelt is not to defend Hitler. The man lied his way through his entire life until the moment of his death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTupV8o3mW4

>> No.12079905

>>12078266
Yeah the Nazis were only trying to conquer and exterminate all of the Soviet Union and Easten Europe, small fries when you think about it.

>> No.12079913

>>12079702
I swear this board is filled with tards. Japan absolutely refused to surrender in any way, shape, or form. Bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki was the only possible way to convince the Japanese to surrender and not have to do a second, ever more painful, D-Day in the east. I don’t see why them being slightly Christian has anything to do with it.

>> No.12079961

>>12079913
>I swear this board is filled with tards.
Be the change you want to see.
>Japan absolutely refused to surrender in any way, shape, or form.
So you had to kill civilians and break laws? Hmm. Maybe US just wants to kill Christians all over the world, as has been their MO for the past 100 years.

>> No.12080079

>>12078240
They grow out of it, it's very typical high school contrarianism, "I know some big secret historical truth everyone else is ignorant to, and to top it off it's incredibly controversial, look how different and special I am!". Of course some people never grow up, but the point is it does nothing to call Nazi revisionists reprehensible as the very reason they do it is precisely because it is reprehensible.

>> No.12080086

>>12078266
>Hitler wasn't blameless but at the end of the day, the Nazis were absolutely not trying to conquer the world.
>If anything, that title belongs to the British.
Yeah, the guy who said the British should just shoot Gandhi, then slaughter everyone who replaces him until they submit, not the bad guy by any means.

>> No.12080583

>>12079913
the japanese would’ve capitulated the very second papa stalin unfolded a map of their territory and said to his generals ”how about that nippon business then chapskis”

yanks just didn’t want them surrendering to the soviets

>> No.12080756

>>12075087
I don't think all those soldiers died for Britain's right to accept immigrants.
And, while I'm down for cutting immigration rates down in my own country, all this gif shows is 'there's a street in Britain with a lot of Muslims in it'.
You could go to most cities in historically homogenous nations and find enclaves of foreigners living there, it's nothing particularly new, so save the top-shelf responses for something real.
That being said, you guys need to start receiving significantly less Muslims.

>> No.12082477

Is there anything more cucked and cringepilled than being a G*rman apologist with regards to the World Wars? If you’re going to sympathise with Germany don’t do it on the embarrassing pretence of victimhood and moral license... Germany were the aggressors, every single time, consistently. Everyone gave them multiple chances to stop and turn around. People were willing to tolerate the intolerable just to avoid war... the idea of Britain as warmongering and looking to do war with Germany flies in the face of the popularity of appeasement in UK politics and all their soft gloved dealing with Germany in the Munich negotiations after the annexation of Czechoslovakia and so on. Even after the war was declared Britain and France didnt really do anything for about a year, it took Germany invading France to begin it proper.