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11989146 No.11989146 [Reply] [Original]

>dude you just like disappear forever into the void when you die lol

how can I perceive the end of perceiving? I was already nothing before I was born, here I am now. mortalism is incoherent.

>> No.11989154

You’re there then you’re not

>> No.11989375

FUCKING KILL ME SOMEBODY FUCKING KILL ME PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE ME I AM A BLIP IN THE INFINITE I AM NOT EMBODIED I HAVE NO CONSCIOUSNESS YOU WILL FORGET ME I WAS NEVER REALIZED I AM ALREADY FORGOTTEN

KILL ME

I AM FUCKING DEAD

>> No.11989418

>>11989375
Quantum Immortality means there's no getting off this ride.

>> No.11989455

>>11989418
for real though what's up there being an entire industry of 'quantum etc' self-help pop-psychology stuff

>> No.11989486

Just do DMT bro

>> No.11989489

>>11989455
a half understood body of pop science knowledge that is easily exploitable for delusional thinking mumbo-jumbo

i dont think its anything new

>> No.11989501

>>11989455
Quantum Immortality ain't popsci

>> No.11989566

>>11989146
>>how can I perceive the end of perceiving?
You don't, you merely perceive the perception of the end of perceiving.

>> No.11990069

I’m not convinced that emergent properties won’t continue to get more advanced.

>> No.11990075

Haha shut up gaywad

>> No.11990079
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11990079

we're gonna be mortals forever bud, look it up

>> No.11990083

>>11989418
how does quantum immortality explain old age?

Like you just keep getting older?

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11990086

>>11989146
>how can I perceive the end of perceiving?
Unironically and unsarcastically: dedicate yourself to God, to prayer and charity. The interior life is the beginning of the eternal life.

>> No.11990089

So, before you made this terrible thread, you didn't think for one second that this might be why people are scared of dying? That no one has an answer to your stupid fucking question? Or was your true intention to start yet another lame 'sadboi' shitfest, as if this board doesn't already have enough of that? You're an idiot, fuck off.

>> No.11990139

>>11990083
If there's any possible future in which you live even a tiny bit longer, your consciousness experiences that world-line. Only if there is a time in the infinite possibilities of reality in which you don't survive can there ever be death.

>> No.11990404

>>11990089
anon.. easy on the bantz

>> No.11990461

>>11989146
>what happens after you die
The same thing that happens before your birth.

>> No.11990574

>>11989375
same desu

>> No.11990584

yeah dude you like go to the world of forms and something lets hit a bong with socrates lmao!!!!!
fuck biblecucks

>> No.11990661

bugs.. easy on philosophy

>> No.11990676

>>11990139
>infinite possibilities of reality

Not infinite, just too big to count under current circumstances

>> No.11990709

>>11990139
>implying no your consciousness will just suddenly transfer to that world

>> No.11990724

>>11990584
cute emotional atheism

>> No.11990732

>>11990089
>being this much of a histrionic bitch

>> No.11990746

>>11990724
yeah nigga you follow da lawd and we be goin to some of that paradise and shit nigga. no tears, no suffering, only dream and JESUS. accept him NOW and you may go there!!! if you dont accept then that's a no no nigga, you goin to hell n shit satan and all of that

>> No.11990764

>>11990746
wow, funny post anon. the really hilarious part is this is what you actually believe. this is stretching the limit of your theological education.

>> No.11990776

>>11990764
lmao nigger my dad used to teach theology to cucks like you. it was funny going to their debates and people arguing that because aristotle got BTFO by everyone after the scholastics, theology was in shaky grounds. then some faggots rightly argued that 'theology' (and following, christianity) stands by itself. which's funny because when looking by itself, it's absolutely ridiculous and pathetic, only human beans who are scared of death would go into such lengths to argue for something so obviously wrong. basically, i was raised in theology circles and i know the arguments anon, i know they're shit. da laaawwd is not going to save you from infinite darkness, anon

>> No.11990788

>>11990083
It means that if you are the observer, you were born at the correct time and place to become immortal through some means like technology.

>> No.11990857

>>11990776
It’s better to believe, anyway. You can’t prove God, the soul, and the afterlife, but they’re not disproven, either.

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>>11990776
>i sat in on some lectures once, have another of my contentless shitposts

Come back when you can actually discuss the topic.

>> No.11990869

>>11989146
> I was already nothing
Contradiction. you can't be nothing.

>> No.11990880

>>11990732
>being this much of a dumb cunt

>> No.11990942

>>11990461
you have no—NO—way of knowing that

>> No.11991064

>>11990857
>Pascal's Wager
Really dude?

>> No.11991082

>>11991064
Have you ever read Penseés? Likely not.

>> No.11991108

>>11990942
There is no—NO—valid reason to assume anything else.

>> No.11991280

>>11990139
>>11990788
Bruh this ain't Steins gate

Eternal repetition, I get behind that. But immortality through shifting universes. Nah b.

>> No.11991285

>>11989146
>>dude you just like disappear forever into the void when you die lol
You don't "disappear into the void", and before you throw another conjecture, let me say it'd be futile to try to explain what happens after death, because absolutely nothing happens, there is no "after death", death is THE ENDING. There's nothing after THE ENDING, that's why it is the end.

>> No.11991295

The Blessed One said: "Develop concentration, monks. A concentrated monk discerns in line with what has come into being. And what does he discern in line with what has come into being? The origination & disappearance of form. The origination & disappearance of feeling... perception... fabrications. The origination & disappearance of consciousness.

"And what is the origination of form? ...feeling? ...perception? ...fabrications? What is the origination of consciousness?

"There is the case where one enjoys, welcomes, & remains fastened. And what does one enjoy & welcome, to what does one remain fastened? One enjoys, welcomes, & remains fastened to form. As one enjoys, welcomes, & remains fastened to form, there arises delight. Any delight in form is clinging. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering.

"One enjoys, welcomes, & remains fastened to feeling... perception... fabrications...

"One enjoys, welcomes, & remains fastened to consciousness. As one enjoys, welcomes, & remains fastened to consciousness, there arises delight. Any delight in consciousness is clinging. From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering.

"This, monks, is the origination of form. This, the origination of feeling... perception... fabrications. This, the origination of consciousness."

"And what is the disappearance of form? ...feeling? ...perception? ...fabrications? What is the disappearance of consciousness?

"There is the case where one doesn't enjoy, welcome, or remain fastened. And what does one not enjoy or welcome, to what does one not remain fastened? One doesn't enjoy, welcome, or remain fastened to form. As one doesn't enjoy, welcome, or remain fastened to form, any delight in form ceases. From the cessation of delight comes the cessation of clinging. From the cessation of clinging/sustenance, the cessation of becoming. From the cessation of becoming, the cessation of birth. From the cessation of birth, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair all cease. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of stress & suffering.

>> No.11991299

>>11990139
>If there's any possible future in which you live even a tiny bit longer, your consciousness experiences that world-line. Only if there is a time in the infinite possibilities of reality in which you don't survive can there ever be death.
Even if your retarded babbling was true, of course there'd be a time in which you don't survive in any reality, as there is no one who has escaped death in all of history.

>> No.11991304

>>11991295
"One doesn't enjoy, welcome, or remain fastened to feeling... perception... fabrications...

"One doesn't enjoy, welcome, or remain fastened to consciousness. As one doesn't enjoy, welcome, or remain fastened to consciousness, any delight in consciousness ceases. From the cessation of delight comes the cessation of clinging. From the cessation of clinging/sustenance, the cessation of becoming. From the cessation of becoming, the cessation of birth. From the cessation of birth, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair all cease. Such is the cessation of this entire mass of stress & suffering.

"This, monks, is the disappearance of form. This, the disappearance of feeling... perception... fabrications. This, the disappearance of consciousness."

>> No.11991326

>>11990869
The material and scientifically-explicable energy that was used to keep your consciousness will be transformed in other forms of energy, so yeah, goodbye to consciousness.

>> No.11992419

>>11989501

more like keksakola

>> No.11992487

>>11990869
>>11991326

which is why I always have to be something. hence, mortalism is incoherent.

the scientific concept of energy has no bearing on the discussion, we're talking about consciousness as the principle of Internality

>> No.11992505

Nothing.

What happens when one of a trillion insects dies? Nothing.

>> No.11992598

>>11989146
I smashed a cockroach that was in my bathroom this morning. Where did he go?

>> No.11992666

>>11992505
>>11992598

that cockroach's death is not your death, your (subjective) death is impossible, you can only have a concept of nothing on THIS side of life, on the other side, there is no other side.

>> No.11992669

>>11992487
you WILL be something, that is, food for insects.

>> No.11992718

>>11992669
not relative to my first-person experientiality you goober

>> No.11992898

>>11992718
Well, how is it like to go to sleep?
It's exactly the same, just without the waking up part.

>> No.11992905

>>11992898
How do you know, have you done it?
will you please try?