ego death

[Anonymous No.11969567]

What literature (if any) can help me begin my journey to ego death

[Anonymous No.11969591]

ego death is a meme

[Anonymous No.11969604]

>>11969567
Sit down on the floor. Pay attention to your breathing.

[Anonymous No.11969620]

If you want to take the fast path and not waste decades, look up Tony Parsons.
Also, for a more "traditional" book, read Huang Po "On The Transmission of Mind".
Huang Po and Tony Parsons are saying essentially the same things, it's just that Huang Po was a chinese Zen master and Tony is just a random guy from england.

[Anonymous No.11969625]

>>11969591
t. ego

[Anonymous No.11969652]

The Platform Sutra. I can't say this is my favorite translation but it gets the point across. (1/2)

[Anonymous No.11969658]

>>11969625
kek

[Anonymous No.11969661]

>>11969567
I sleep on a wooden floor and I do not eat except for one meal at nighttime. I no longer have an ego.

[Anonymous No.11969663]

>>11969652
I also like Zhuangzi. "Zhuangzi's Dreams He is a Butterfly" is a good story to start with

(2/2)

[Anonymous No.11969687]

>>11969567
take LSD its the only way

[Anonymous No.11969694]

>>11969687
This, in all honesty, tho you can try to read a book while you do it

[Anonymous No.11969712]

Ego death was basically the whole point to Hesse's writing. Start with Steppenwolf, if you like it then proceed to The Glass Bead Game.

Crime and Punishment can also be said to handle this question.

[Anonymous No.11969747]

>>11969687
Isn't taking drugs cheating

[Anonymous No.11969760]

>>11969747
Well, you lose your natty card, yes.

[Anonymous No.11969764]

Take a 1.5 day hike without any rest water or food. Then sit down

[Anonymous No.11969767]

>>11969567
Can someone explain to a layman what 'ego death' is? what the benefits of it are?

[Anonymous No.11969785]

>>11969760
How to do natty, psychedelics scare me

[Anonymous No.11969794]

>>11969767
You speak more and more out of yourself. Absolute inability to speak to normies

[Anonymous No.11969800]

>>11969785
you cant. ego death is scary regardless

[Anonymous No.11969849]

>>11969591
Nah, I experienced it through meditation alone and got cured from autism in an instant. Now I can talk to girls with absolute confidence. But it also opened a door for the Spiritual world which frightened me at first but I'm slowly learning to integrate into my daily life

>>11969767
To have your wall of beliefs thumbed down and realize individuality is an illusion (and everything you believed to know as an established fact) It can be really scary for the one who's not prepared to see what's beyond the other side of the Matrix

[Anonymous No.11969891]

>>11969567
Buddhism

[Anonymous No.11969898]

>>11969849
to me it was kinda the opposite. seeing that the things i consider "me" (my name, what hopes and dreams, my fears and traumas, etc) were false and had no meaning at all left me in a broken state, like, what the fuck is the point of it all? but tbqh famalam my experience was through drugs (namely in the context of anaesthetics for life-saving surgery) and not meditation. i do think that if i had something (a religious doctrine or ideology) or even someone (a guru or whatever) guiding me through it, that could've influenced me into having a more positive experience. but since it was raw and i guess i was scared due to the pain and the possible death, well...

[Anonymous No.11969950]

>>11969567
>ego death
Why? It is a meme Unless you have something organic to your neurology occur it's merely a delusion.
Are you lacking confidence or just want to talk like you are drunk(sorta) while sober?

[Anonymous No.11969987]

>>11969950
Anglo nihilism.

[Anonymous No.11970020]

>>11969567
this OP

https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html

[Anonymous No.11970028]

why would you want to get rid of the part that makes you, you? unless of course youre a terrible person looking for a restart?

[Anonymous No.11970040]

I don't outright reject the possibility of, e.g. disembodied qualia/sense data or otherwise experiences occurring without the presence of a transcendental cogito, but the possibility of experiencing ego death is completely incomprehensible to me. I've done both DMT and extremely high dosages of mushrooms and RCs (would not recommend it - this was back ca. 2010 before all of the horror stories), so Ive experienced crazy ass shit, including what I think other drug users call ego death, but at no point in my life have I had experiences totally unaccompanied by a cogito. I dont even see how you could be aware of such experiences, remember them, or linguistically describe them.

[Anonymous No.11970164]

>>11969898
It's okay, I also lacked proper guidance, it felt like bliss during the first days when I realized shyness and awkwardness were purely mental illusions but then turned into horror when I started to forget what I was supposed to be. You eventually go back to "normal" with all the positive aspects of the experience and have the opportunity to rebuild a new ego based on the old one, with new dreams and goals. But if it serves you, reading into quantum physics has teach me the universe is mental and we're basically God fragmented into different consciousness, which means life has the meaning you decide to give it

[Anonymous No.11970168]

>>11969567
the Bible.
Literally

[Anonymous No.11970174]

>>11969687
Its not the only way. The different forms of meditation can be used to have an ego death. I truly believe some people cannot become "enlightened" in the sense that they cannot let go of their previous perceptions of the world.

I think thats one of the reasons why people have bad trips, they cant "let go".


>>11969950
>ego death is a delusion
>implying what you perceive sober isnt a delusion

Pseud detected.

>>11970040
I understand your hesitation. Ive only done DMT once, and I dont think that drug is suitable for achieving ego death. I personally think ive had ego death before while on LSD. It usually happens when I have a bad trip and then me essentially getting past my bad trip. Its like me becoming aware of why im having a bad trip, and immediately "letting go".

I describe ego death as being a perfect observer. Its not like you are void of thoughts, but you become hyper aware of the nature of thoughts and seperate yourself from identifying with those thoughts. Its an extremely peaceful experience.


Everyone should do pscyhedelics.

[Anonymous No.11970179]

>>11970028
yes, the latter applies to most people here.

[Anonymous No.11970228]

>>11970028
>why would you want to get rid of the part that makes you, you? unless of course youre a terrible person looking for a restart?

But is that really you? Is the ego really who you are? The human mind has the constant inclination to seperate itself from everything by identifying itself with something.

>oh im a human
>im white/black
>im american
>im a liberal/conservative
>im a football fan
>im christian, muslim, buddhist
>im this, im that

Yeah, I mean in our conventional way of thinking i guess you are that. But thats just a spook.

[Anonymous No.11970238]

>>11969849
How did you do it

[Anonymous No.11970245]

>>11970174
Bad trips come from an unprepared mind. If it's medical use in any indication any individual can get something out of it with adequate preparation and guidance.

[Anonymous No.11970262]

>>11970238
Not him but I unintentionally stumbled into it after having cultivated over several years a habit of analyzing my emotional reactions to different situations, I guess to the point of realizing the illusion in the beliefs underlying those (generally negative) reactions.

[Anonymous No.11970271]

>>11970245
Bad trips can come at anytime, but i do admit some bad trips were because i wasnt in the right mindset.

[Anonymous No.11970337]

>>11970168
Fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.11970342]

>>11970262
What are you like to be around? If I were to ask you how your day was, how would you respond?

[Anonymous No.11970376]

You come back to an ego eventually, even it it's a fractured and aware one.

[Anonymous No.11970412]

>>11970342
I just say my day was okay. Or, "you know, just existing :)"

[Anonymous No.11970423]

>>11970412
I cannot tell if you are being ironic

[Anonymous No.11970434]

>>11970376
"Enlightenment is like everyday consciousness, but two inches above the ground."

[Anonymous No.11970540]

>>11969849
>I

[Anonymous No.11970552]

>>11970540
S uit

[Anonymous No.11970715]

>>11970423
I wrote >>11970262
I take pleasure in many more things than I used too, so it's easy for me to respond positively to your question. But it's been a rough ride in the sense that it's taken me a while to find my way again and figure out how I really want to live the life I'm fit for.
Getting over myself allowed me to relate to others more meaningfully, and if I met you and we began an uncommon conversations I'm sure we'd enjoy ourselves. I appreciate sincerity above all.

[Anonymous No.11970729]

>>11969849
this version is so boring

[Anonymous No.11970778]

>>11969712
>Start with Steppenwolf

I love that book with all my heart but it's probably not the best introduction to Hesse.

I'd say

Siddhartha > Narcissus and Goldmund > Demian > Steppenwolf > Journey to the East > The Glass Bead Game > everything else if you really like him

[Anonymous No.11970796]

If you really wanna fuck yourself up, wait till youve had no human contact for 2 days, read Schopenhauer cure, break your leg and do lsd in a lonely ass house at night by yourself. That'll fuck up your ego.

Oh and try to read a therapy story book.

[Anonymous No.11970829]

>>11970174
>everyone should do psychs
Agreed till then, because I got to unfortunatley find out what happens when someones ego is too strong and just starts flipping shit on lsd. Psychs for everyone is bad idea without supervision and education and the legality of it is already a massive problem that spooks people trying it in our current context

[Anonymous No.11970844]

>>11970337
??????????????????
Do you not understand how the Bible allows this?

[Anonymous No.11970878]

>>11970829
>>11970174
psychedelics are not for everyone. there is no single cure-all. people are different and require different approaches. even with preparation and supervision, you shouldn't give psychedelics to someone with ptsd, other forms of anxiety, schizophrenics, oppositional defiant disorder, the list goes on and on.

[Anonymous No.11971262]

>>11969567
What's ego death?

[Anonymous No.11971444]

>>11969567
The term 'Ego Death' is thrown around a lot, and the nature of our language is probably to blame. But after a certain point in your journey you will realize it to be a distraction. Simply meditate, become aware of your moment to moment experiences (and don't read too much, but if you must - "Open Secret" by Wei Wu Wei & "On Transmission of Mind" by Huang Po are fairly brief and excellent), and then you shall surely appercieve that this which your are isn't an entity.

When you are cognizant of this truth, any discussion of "ego death" becomes futile. There was never anything to kill to begin with. One simply reintegrates thought into its proper place, understands that language is a tool, and sees ego (and if you're bold - then pls USE ego) as narrative. It was always about telling a story. "Ego death" is just another story (imo a boring one), mostly by non-partakers. I find this completely fine, as long they're not incessant about there being anything deeper about it.

[Anonymous No.11971508]

>>11969849
based anon. i experienced a similar thing after doing some yoga programs offered from sadhguru. i do about an hour and a half of yogic practises every morning and I am filled with joy and bliss

[Anonymous No.11971794]

>>11970238
I sat down relaxed and focused on breathing in a place I visited in my childhood, then concentrated on the root cause of what was causing all of my anxieties and depression and told myself repeatetly it wasn't true.

I felt bliss after which was like being freed from a cage I have been in for too long, but it frightened me too because it was such an alien feeling for me and I was experimenting a similar state to that of a schizophrenian. I don't want to go much into detail because I think the process is different for anyone depending on the specific issues of that person.

I still have issues but the core of it was destroyed, even though I still experiment some existential horror feelings at times

[Anonymous No.11971925]

>>11970796
this sounds like the perfect mix for a bad trip

[Anonymous No.11972044]

>>11971925
I think that's the point.

[Anonymous No.11972197]

>>11971508
link to said yoga programs?

[Anonymous No.11972245]

>>11970174
How can you observe if your ego is dead? Is this not a contradiction? Once on a very high dose of mushrooms for a few minutes I forgot my name and couldn't recognize anything around me, I would say it was ego death, but it wasn't a "great" experience, it was just a nothing experience.

[Anonymous No.11972251]

ego death is when you quasi-lobotomize yourself with hallucinogenic drugs

[Anonymous No.11972272]

>>11969849
You just sat and were aware of your breathing?

[Anonymous No.11972574]

>>11971262
Ask fifty people and you'll get fifty different answers.

[Anonymous No.11972591]

>>11972574
That's why I ask OP

[Anonymous No.11972693]

>>11972272
Yeah, I suppose an ego-death is something very personal that works different for each person, hence why: >>11972574

[Anonymous No.11972746]

>>11970262
>emotional reactions
uh oh I don’t have those

[Anonymous No.11972751]

>>11972591
OP here, I don't know. That's why I made the thread.

[Anonymous No.11972764]

>>11969567
Getting rid of one's ego is the biggest egotistical pursuit you can enter into. Realization of that is your first step.

[Anonymous No.11972771]

>all the arrogant narcissistic ‘enlightened ones’ in this thread
so this is the power of ego death

[Anonymous No.11972776]

>>11972751
So you want something but don't know what it is? Do you at least understand how frightening the concept of an ego death be if understood in a particular way?

[Anonymous No.11972777]

>>11972574
>Ask fifty people and you'll get fifty different answers.

Western thought is based on permanence and identity, whereas Eastern philosophy, particularly that of Taoism and Buddhism, is based on impermanence and change. Substance metaphysics uses the law of identity as the mathematical correlate of its metaphysics: something is itself in itself by virtue of its in-itself, requiring nothing other than itself to exist. This includes the self-object, the being-self, the self as self-representation, the "I am."

Process philosophy emphasizes change, and finds its correlated mathematical principle in the foundations of calculus, the mathematical study of change. The fundamental theorem states that integration and derivation are inverse operations of the same process, where the physical intuition of integration is "cumulative change" and derivation "instantaneous change." These two correspond to two reference frames of change which we perceive all change by.

In the presentist perspective a singular omnipresent moment is the fixed point of reference, and what is perceived is continuous instantaneous change in this ever-present. This perspective is cultivated by mindfulness practices. Privileging this perspective leads to the conclusion that the being-self is an illusion as it requires temporality (it is a story of one's self) and that past and future are an illusion.

In the temporalist perspective the line of time is the fixed point of reference, comprised of many variable moments, and what is perceived is cumulative change through time. This perspective is cultivated by linguistic practices, i.e. reasoning and narrative. Privileging this perspective leads to the conclusion that the being-self is the foundation of reality and that the present is an illusion, as it is gone as soon as it arrives - that which has persistence through time, enduring substance is the truly real.

[Anonymous No.11972778]

>>11972776
I want to stop feeling insecure and anxious

[Anonymous No.11972790]

>>11972777
Ego-death is the perception of the being-self as an illusion by cultivating the presentist perspective, especially though meditative practices. So to answer OP's question, no literature can help with ego-death, only meditative practices. We become so immersed in our self-narrative that we can become convinced that it is the totality of reality, which leads to unnecessary suffering, but to exclude temporality and permanently destroy the ego is just as much an error. Buddhism is heavily biased towards presentism just as Western thought is biased towards temporalism, but the metaphysical implications of calculus show that neither presentism nor temporalist perspectives are priviledged, they are both different aspects of the nondual nature of change. This is very similar to the metaphysics of Taoism, with the Tao the process of reality itself, the way things come together while still changing. Yin is instantaneous change, immediacy, and awareness, Yang is cumulative change, endurance, and narrative.

Alfred North Whitehead didn't realize that the fundamental theorem of calculus was a metaphysical principle, yet his foundational insights follow from it precisely, that becoming is for the purpose of being, and being for the purpose of becoming. If this posts interests the reader, he is the perfect place to start, as process philosophy is the future not just of philosophy, but human society, it is the core of the true post-postmodernism that will overcome the problems of nihilism and alienation in the modern world that stems from its erroneous metaphysical foundations, a flaw in how it views change itself and relates to it.

[Anonymous No.11972794]

>>11969849
>I experienced it

[Anonymous No.11972797]

>>11972777
>Western thought is based on permanence and identity, whereas Eastern philosophy, particularly that of Taoism and Buddhism, is based on impermanence and change.

[Anonymous No.11972937]

>>11972245
I've completely lost touch of who I was for the majority duration of several trips. Yes "I" was there technically, not knowing who I was and thinking that I had no clue about what was going on.
In one of those cases I had to rebuild my personality from the ground up. That turned out to be pretty cool actually.

[Anonymous No.11972943]

>>11972937
How do you trip without feeling anxiety. I feel anxious from smoking weed, even when drunk despite the fact that alcohol is supposed to kill anxiety (inhibits GABA)

Am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.11972985]

>>11972778
Follow any mature spiritual tradition deep enough. Don't matter which, what matters is to have emotional resonance with this particular teaching.

[Anonymous No.11972988]

>>11972985
>mature spiritual tradition
Can you name a few? I don't really know anything about that.

[Anonymous No.11973006]

Beginner psychedelic books:

Huxley - Perennial Philosophy, BNW, The Island, Doors of Perception, Heaven and Hell
Leary - The Psychedelic Experience, Psychedelic Prayers, Politics of Ecstasy
Laing - Politics of Experience and the Bird of Paradise
Baba Ram Dass - Be Here Now

History of (mostly psychedelic) drugs in America:

Stevens - Storming Heaven
Lee - LSD Dreams
Torgoff - Can't Find My Way Home
Wolfe - The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test
HST - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Science of psychedelics:

Psychedelic Information Theory (http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/pdf/PIT-Print-Web.pdf))
William Richards - Sacred Knowledge
Michael Pollan - How to Change Your Mind
Albert Hoffman - LSD: My Problem Child
Otto Snow - LSD
Uncle Fester's Practical LSD Manufacturing
Strassman - DMT: The Spirit Molecule
Sasha Shulgin - PIHKAL and TIHKAL (recommended for newbs) or Shulgin Index (if you want hardcore chemistry)
Grof - LSD Psychotherapy
Lilly - Programming and Metaprogramming the Human Biocomputer
Frances - Drawing it Out

Plant Medicine / Shamanism:

Pendell - Pharmako Trilogy
T. McKenna - Food of the Gods, True Hallucinations, The Archaic Revival
D. McKenna - Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss
Eliade - Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy
Harner - Way of the Shaman
Pinchbeck - Breaking Open the Head
Narby - Cosmic Serpent

Mystical / Occult:

Castaneda - Don Juan Series
Bergier - In The Morning Of The Magicians
Jodorowski - Psychomagic, Way of the Tarot
Crowley - Book Four: Liber ABA, Magick Without Tears, Book of Thoth, Book of Lies
AOS - Book of Pleasure
Grant - The Magickal Revival, Zos Speaks!
Caroll - Liber Null & Psychonaut
Dukes - Thundersqueak
White - Chaos Protocols

Ancient Mysteries:

Wasson - The Road To Eleusis
Allegro - The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross
Uzdavinys - Orpheus and the Roots of Platonism
Graves - The White Goddess

Schizo-core:

PKD - VALIS Trilogy
D & G - Capitalism and Schizophrenia
D - Difference and Repetition, Logic of Sense
G - Chaosmosis, Schizoanalytic Cartographies
Laing - The Divided Self
Eco - Foucault's Pendulum
Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
RAW - Illuminatus! (Fiction) and Cosmic Trigger (Non-Fiction)
Land - Fanged Noumena
Schreber - Memoirs of my Nervous Illness

Psychedelic "literature":

Baudelaire - Artificial Paradises
Michaux - Miserable Miracle
Benjamin - On Hashish
Pickard - The Rose of Paracelsus

Eight-Circuit Model:

Leary - Info(/Exo)-Psychology, Game of Life
RAW - Quantum Psychology, Prometheus Rising
Antero Ali - Angel Tech

(Psychedelic) Philosophy:

Eliade - The Sacred and the Profane
James - The Varieties of Religious Experiences
Wilson - The Outsider, The Occult
Nietzsche - Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Debord - Society of the Spectacle, Commentary on Society of the Spectacle
Vaneigem - Revolution of Everyday Life, Movement of the Free Spirit
Baudrillard - Simulacra and Simulation, System of Objects, America
Fisher - Capitalist Realism
Tsing - The Mushroom At The End Of The World

[Anonymous No.11973009]

>>11972988
Anything that has been around for more than a couple hundreds of years is a good rule of thumb. Read a Bible for one. Assuming you come from Christian culture, it would probably be easier for you to empathise with it than with any Eastern teaching. Just make an effort to actually read what's written there instead of wallowing in the """objective""" """materialistic""" """critical""" perspective that brought you insecurity and anxiety in the first place. I'm not even talking about believing in Christ or whatever, start with feeling something at least.

[Anonymous No.11973020]

>>11972937
Just because you *THOUGHT* you lost touch with who you were doesn't mean you did. Your brain was still the one coming up with all those stupid experiences with all the stupid memories you collected over your life. You may have been dumb enough to not realize it while putting your brain in a chemical microwave but it was still you dumb dumb

[Anonymous No.11973025]

>>11970168
This.

The Bible is so mucb more than it seems, but really only people with Faith will understand it as this

[Anonymous No.11973026]

>>11969567
When Ramana Maharshi was asked he always said that the most direct path was through Self-inquiry:

Introverted inquiry by asking 'Who am I?' or 'What am I?'.

The reason this works is that it directly confronts oneself with the habitual understanding of self, which is what one bases everything upon.

This habitual understanding is shown as precisely that: a habit.

One therefore lets go of this understanding by walking through the fear, which is the last defender of the illusion.

[Anonymous No.11973033]

My advice would be to follow the natural course of your life for three or four more decades, observing endings and beginnings while remaining ever mindful (not marrying yourself off to a particular ideal or aesthetic). It is likely that, in doing this, you will gradually shed the parts of yourself which are unnecessary and "protectionist" to your identity. In other words, the line between subject and object will blur, but never completely disappear (making this method safer and more practical than some other form of induced ego "death").

Time can be as much an ally as an enemy. The ego is already as much an ally as an enemy. You can gain perspective by losing things, but also by gaining and working to keep them.

Fuck the books!

[Anonymous No.11973034]

>>11972943
>Am I retarded
No, you just have anxiety. Too much weed definitely makes me anxious. I don't do this much but a Xanax and weed are pretty good together.

Set and setting are key. Take drugs somewhere you feel safe with low chance of random interruptions. Have your favorite music playing. Go with the flow, don't resist, talk yourself down if you start feeling anxious: "I'm on drugs, it's fine, relax." Bring a "parachute" like an oxy if you want to eject from the trip. (Or even a bit of molly.) Take lower doses or even try microdosing to get used to the effects.

[Anonymous No.11973036]

>>11973033
At what point can I work on gassing the Jews

[Anonymous No.11973038]

>>11973034
Heh last time I took Xanax I fell into a fire pit

[Anonymous No.11973044]

>>11973034
Also, I don't have a connection to all your mentioned drug

[Anonymous No.11973064]

>>11973036
if this is a Heidegger joke, it's well done

but the pragmatic answer is to only begin gassing Jews when the majority agrees that they need gassing - which, good luck, because a certain (((group))) learned a long time ago how important it is to influence majority perspective

[Anonymous No.11973080]

>>11973064
Wow you're so smart you fucking kike faggot

[Anonymous No.11973083]

>>11973080

[Anonymous No.11973095]

>>11973034
>Xanax and weed are pretty good together.
>this is the guy giving you philosophical advice

[Anonymous No.11973103]

>>11973095
give that cat some xanax and weeds

[Anonymous No.11973125]

>>11969620
This post made me laugh hard for some reason

[Anonymous No.11973130]

>>11969567
true ego death is a meme; you'll loop back around eventually. the real pursuit should be sustained ego denial which is much more difficult to attain and has better results when stabilized. similar to how ego death is based on the person, the process relies on active utilization of the person's environment/genetics, so you'll have to figure out the process for yourself as it ironically is unique to the individual. the core of the process involves constant refocusing towards the end goal of a partial self.

[Anonymous No.11973142]

>>11973095
I have anxiety. You know what's cool? Not having anxiety sometimes. Xanax and weed are a good break, on occasion, as I clearly stated.
Obviously Xanax can be abused and the rapid onset of tolerance makes it a losing proposition for regular use.

I'm giving trip advice. Philosophical advice I hadn't even started. Here: Go read the Tao Te Ching.

[Anonymous No.11973146]

>>11973142
>I have anxiety. You know what's cool? Not having anxiety sometimes.
Reddit wrote this post

[Anonymous No.11973148]

>>11973142
>I have anxiety. You know what's cool? Not having anxiety sometimes

Same also I have depression.

[Anonymous No.11973149]

>>11973130
Hyper-egotism is actually the winning game bud

[Anonymous No.11973154]

>>11973148
lol what a fucking loser. Kill yourself seriously

[Anonymous No.11973164]

>>11973026
The insight that our self-creative freedom comes from questioning and not choosing is huge. Methodological self-questioning is the complimentary counterpart to mindfulness meditation: one cultivates de-immersion from self-narrative, while the other cultivates free inquiry by challenging and changing the will - "free will" is actually slavery to the will.

Describing this in terms of the Darwinian process shows the true nature of conscious self-creativity. The Darwinian process of variation -> selection -> reproduction is mirrored by question -> reason -> action, questions are requests for information and create variation from following lines of inquiry, from which choice selects from according to some criterion (i.e. "reason.") We question our questions, reasons, and actions, and so this process is applied to itself, giving us theoretically unlimited powers of self-creativity and self-modification that are limited by our practical ability to question, which is necessarily always finite. Free inquiry isn't an absolute, but a cultivated skill.

What are you? The answer is contained within the question: a question questioning itself, a self-querying query. This is the subject-self, the becoming-self, whereas the object-self, the being-self, is self-representation (I am...) Human consciousness is evolution evolved, the creative process that through the flexibility of language folds upon itself to become self-creative. The question mark is the symbol of awareness and life itself, the source of inexhaustible meaning and endless becoming. Questions aren't a mere lack of an answer, a void to be filled, they are vectors of desire, searches, and quests. The Tao literally means "path" or "way" and it has no end, endlessly branching in diversity and potentiality.

[Anonymous No.11973178]

>>11973164
What a worthless zero message comic. Imagine what pretentious embarrassment posted that thinking it was erudite

[Anonymous No.11973181]

>>11973149
hyper-egotism simply sounds like narcissism which is a pitfall of ego denial. overfocus on the superficial self will always result in a loss of awareness of the goal while focusing on the processes independent of the self within the mind will lead to healthy progression. the pathway forwards should always be externally close.

[Anonymous No.11973184]

>>11973178
This, but this too sounds pretentious.

[Anonymous No.11973185]

>>11973181
>hyper-egotism simply sounds like narcissism

Is this meant to be an argument? Literally nothing wrong with narcissism

[Anonymous No.11973189]

>>11973148
Yeah I have that too. Mushrooms (and probably acid) actually work on depression. Some British scientists did a study.

[Anonymous No.11973191]

>>11973184
Says you faglord

[Anonymous No.11973192]

>>11973185
if you want events without external meaning, hedonism can be a preferable mode of life. there's too much outside of the self to consider otherwise. those who choose to not live according to their own wills have the ability to see past any human pursuits.

[Anonymous No.11973196]

>>11969712

Elaborate on how crime n pun is ego death please

[Anonymous No.11973198]

>>11973192
Narcissism has nothing to do with hedonism, you're an idiot
Most hedonists are soppy self loathing shitstains, to be an active narcissist takes an active commitment to suffer

[Anonymous No.11973202]

>>11973178
>>11973184
The site you guys want is https://twitter.com/

[Anonymous No.11973204]

>>11973196
It doesn't, he's a retard

[Anonymous No.11973210]

>>11973202
>makes long worthless self indulgent show of virtue signalling
>its them who are on the wrong site

[Anonymous No.11973211]

>>11969785
just don't take too much, people tend to overhype bad trips, don't get me wrong they do happen but they won't be a problem if you're prepared and not retarded with it.

[Anonymous No.11973218]

>>11973198
active commitment to self-suffering demonstrates an inability to see past the self as I previously stated, and narcissism in all forms is inexorably linked to hedonism through the object of active focus. if you sustain a personality without self considered, your options become far less contained within the scope of the self's interest and based in non-temporary pursuits.

[Anonymous No.11973219]

>>11973191
If my post was expressing doninion over my subjects, I guess that makes you a fag

[Anonymous No.11973226]

>>11973218
>demonstrates an inability to see past the self
There is nothing past the self, that's the whole point of consciousness

[Anonymous No.11973235]

>>11973210
>Satisfies his frustration over the lack of a downvote button by spewing textual vomit and contributing nothing to discussion.
>Claims he isn't part of the culture of toxic social media reaction.

[Anonymous No.11973242]

>>11973235
>"""toxic"""
Yeah you definately don't belong here

[Anonymous No.11973259]

>>11973218
Life is a non-temporary pursuit, because while we are alive we are conscious. While we are conscious we submit to the illusions beckoned by the self. Therefore, if you sustain a personality without self considered, you no longer submit yourself to illusions. Said another way, if you live without considering self, you live in the truth, as reality experienced with illusory premises contains falsehoods.

[Anonymous No.11973260]

>>11973226
many things exist beyond what can be perceived independent of real natures perceivable and are created within or without human contemplation. human conscious materialization occurs with extending towards these ends when conceived through what can be known to the self without utilization of what is within.

[Anonymous No.11973262]

>>11970174
The problem with psychedelics is that you are catapulted into a mental state temporarily, and then return to your everyday state. Transcending the ego exists in many spiritual practices, but there are always practices and stages to get there so one can achieve them in a structured way and understand them, repeated practice reveals deeper experiences. Meanwhile, an LSD trip is mostly uncontrolled and one is dependent on the chemical to reach even that unstructured state. A spiritual practitioner gets more out of their experiences and only needs themself and a place to sit. For the LSD taker: what if you don't have any LSD available? You can't reach that state again. How much use are those sporadic experiences with little knowledge to understand them?

There's a reason monastic orders are austere.

[Anonymous No.11973278]

>>11973260
Please consider practising consistent grammar before desperately vomiting out pseud babble
>beyond what can be perceived independent of real natures perceivable and
ABLOO BLOO

[Anonymous No.11973283]

>>11972245
It means there are no thoughts arising that identify anything as "I". It's not thinking as one does day-to-day but there is some level of awareness, so it's not total unconsciousness either. In fact Hindu scriptures describe it as being awake while in a state of unconscious sleep.

[Anonymous No.11973284]

>>11973278
you didn't like that I used the word natures? it's the plural of nature.

[Anonymous No.11973290]

>>11969747
well doing drugs won't make you enlightened but LSD is pretty great for showing you what's beyond ego, and I think that's helpful to the cause

Personally, I prefer LSD as an intellectual tool. It's not that your ego dies necessarily as a symptom of the drug, it's that your mind is overwhelmed with a picture of things that is unlikely correspond with the constructions of your ego. My ego was unstable and confused to begin with, so the experience of LSD was of a more refreshing/clarifying nature for me

[Anonymous No.11973296]

>>11973284
He didn’t like that you made no attempt to articulate a response that people can understand.

[Anonymous No.11973297]

>>11973284
You used perceivable as a noun you fucking idiot. There's at least a dozen other crimes of linguistic logic in that post but I won't bother

[Anonymous No.11973304]

>>11973262
Psychedelics change your thinking with repeated use. It's to the point where I've developed some tolerance to them. A sixteenth of mushrooms has minor effects on me. I like taking at least 1.5 eighths, 2 eighths is better. (Dependent on which ones ofc.)

Trips can be controlled with set and setting. I have a several things I use/do to steer my trip.

[Anonymous No.11973307]

>>11973296
>>11973297
I see where the confusion is stemming, I said independent instead of independently. my bad, typing this stuff out while I'm baking atm

[Anonymous No.11973325]

>>11973307
I say this with nothing but love in my heart; stop smoking and let your own sober thoughts and habits elate you.

Of course, the choice is yours alone.

[Anonymous No.11973345]

>>11973325
sober thoughts are for fools without aims extending from their mental boundaries and for those pretending that their realities are enough. besides, I don't do any drugs.

[Anonymous No.11973385]

>>11972746
That's ok dude. I really don't think it's important to follow a specific path or care about specific things, just do whatever is important to you for a happy life. I never set out to achieve some abstract goal like "ego death", I only wanted to make my life a little more bearable, and in order to do that had to confront and get over a lot of things I feared. Maybe that's the only general principle.

[Anonymous No.11973399]

Go into the wild for three days. Don't bring any food or water, and spend your time reflecting on who you are and what you have become. At one point you may hallucinate, probably finding a spirit animal (though that sounds like utter bullshit, when you experience it nothing will feel more real). Then leave, and you will be a different man in your life.

[Anonymous No.11973495]

>>11973164
I like this.
>>11973178
has zero compassion and no reason why

[Anonymous No.11973517]

>>11969567
Wraith the Oblivion is good.

Sea of shadows is very good.

Have a safe journey.

[Anonymous No.11973638]

>>11969567
You take a high dose of ketamine. LSD can work too but it's a bit more finnicky

[Anonymous No.11973645]

>>11973399
>Going on a vision quest is the same as achieving ego death

[Anonymous No.11974152]

>>11972197
there is an app called "sadhguru app". there are few introductory practised you can learn on that app known as 'UPA YOGA', which is a sort of preliminary form of yoga. There are also programs called 'Inner Engineering' that you can attend in person to learn a few advanced practices. Definitely worth. I would start with youtube searching sadhguru and listening to some of his videos.

[Anonymous No.11974178]

>>11973638
Redpill me on ketamine. They gave it to me when I was 9 years old and I had a horrific adventure in a bizarre world.

[Anonymous No.11974218]

>>11974178
It's fun but only a toy. Also, it's addictive. Try it out if you don't have an addictive personality but don't use it regularly.

[Anonymous No.11974398]

Redpill me on vision quests