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>Throughout his life, Kant was a severe hypochondriac. By the time he was approaching seventy, he had perfected this condition to the point where he was a master of this art. Each month he would send to the Köningsberg chief of police for the latest mortality statistics, and from these he would calculate his own life expectancy. He became convinced that constipation clouded his brain, and he added an impressive array of laxatives to his room-sized medicine cabinet. He would read through medical journals describing the latest discoveries to see if he could diagnose himself with any of the new diseases.

Was it autism?

>> No.11967658

No, it was philosophy..

>> No.11967659

>Not doing everything to live as long as possible
t. Brainlet

>> No.11967692

>>11967651
>did all of this
>died anyway

There are people who actually still take this guy seriously

>> No.11967744

>the most influent philosopher of the modern era was a 5 feet tall schizophrenic goblin

the absolute state of continental philosophy

>> No.11967755

>>11967651
why do we take philosophers seriously again?

>> No.11967777
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>>11967755
No idea.

>> No.11967794

>(3.) Masturbation is in some ways a worse vice than the horror of murdering oneself, and "debases [the masturbator] below the beasts". Kant writes:
>But it is not so easy to produce a rational proof that unnatural, and even merely unpurposive, use of one's sexual attribute is inadmissible as being a violation of duty to oneself (and indeed, as far as its unnatural use is concerned, a violation in the highest degree). The ground of proof is, indeed, that by it a man surrenders his personality (throwing it away), since he uses himself as a means to satisfy an animal impulse. But this does not explain the high degree of violation of the humanity in one's own person by such a vice in its unnaturalness, which seems in terms of its form (the disposition it involves) to exceed even murdering oneself. It consists, then, in this: That a man who defiantly casts off life as a burden is at least not making a feeble surrender to animal impulse in throwing himself away (he Metaphysics of Morals, p. 425).
>Kant would have his housemaids tie his hands to the bedposts every night to prevent masturbating.

>> No.11967815

>>11967755
Because they believe things that would not normally be expected to happen for extremely convulted reasons.
Anybody who can explain why they believe in stuff like monads or transcendental ideas must probably be worth listening to, even if just for the sake of figuring out how they arrived upon these beliefs.

>> No.11967820

>Kant once received a letter from a young lady who had read his works on ethics. Prizing Kant's genius, she sought advice on what she should do about a certain problem of hers. She was engaged to marry a gentleman whom she loved, but she was not a virgin. She wanted to know whether she should tell the man or keep quiet. Kant advised her that she must tell her fiancée. The fiancée broke off the marriage. Distraught, the woman wrote to Kant again, deeply troubled over the result of her decision and admitting she was having doubts over Kant's system of ethics. She asked if she might come to Koenigsberg to meet with Kant and discuss her doubts. Although he received the letter in a timely fashion, he chose never to reply. The woman committed suicide after some time.

>> No.11967824

>>11967744
Yet they are still cooler than analytics

>> No.11967831

>>11967824
Kant wasnt continental.

>> No.11967863
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>>11967651
>>11967794
>>11967820
Kant biopic when?

>> No.11967878

>>11967831
Tell that to the person who said he was

>> No.11967905

>>11967794
damn, honestly he is right about this

>> No.11967933

>>11967820
based thot eliminator

>> No.11967977

>>11967651
>He became convinced that constipation clouded his brain

I don't think he was been hypochondriac

You know there has been research in the past years about the connection between gut flora and depression, our mood, autism, etc.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4662178/
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrgastro.2016.200

Kant was a genius, always ahead of his time.

>> No.11967985

>>11967977
He was one of the greatest men to have ever lived. In thought, action and character.

>> No.11968091

>not knowing about the second brain in your gut

put the books down and listen to some MMA podcasts it's gonna change ur life

>> No.11968130

>>11967794

Fuark, is western cannon actually this shit? Is this what our society is built upon? Fucking retards like this scared to have a wank and getting admiring young ladies to kill themselves? Why even read it when the majority of us these days seem to live this way without trying?

>> No.11968178

>>11967820
UGHH. Why are men such fucking animals? God I hate him so much.

>> No.11968186

>>11968130
Celibacy is arguably responsible for all human progress. If we just sat around jacking and having sex all the time, nothing would get done. Even Freud attributed massive intellectual drive wit h celibacy.

>> No.11968193

>>11967658
Underrated

>> No.11968209

Hamann btfo'd this autist a long time ago

>> No.11968221

>impressive array of laxatives

>> No.11968226

>>11967820
Absolutely based

>> No.11968229

>>11968209
literally never heard of this guy before, just looked him up and he sounds really interesting

>> No.11968258

>>11967794

Reminder that extraverts are zombies. This hodgepodge of a priori, "common sense", and random dualisms barely makes grammatical sense. A random photograph of disparate parts of everything he read swirling in his mind with no rhyme or reason.

>> No.11968269

sounds based af

>> No.11968274

>>11967820
Based

>> No.11968302

>>11967820
Based and redpilled

>> No.11968313

>>11967820
Basado y rojoemcapsulado

>> No.11968332

>>11967820
based as fook m8

>> No.11968593

>>11967658
What's the difference?

>> No.11968613

>>11967820
Baseado e rivotrilado

>> No.11969030

>>11967659
Death is natural, human.

>> No.11969051

>>11967794
>>11967820
this changes everything. I'll be reading the CoPR tonight.

>> No.11969067

>>11967820
I doubted him, now I'm not.

>> No.11969069

>>11967820
>Kant advised her that she must tell her fiancée

If it's her soon-to-be husband, then it should fiancé, not fiancée. No real translator would make a mistake like this. Sadly, this is fake.

>> No.11969445

>>11967820
based as fuck

>> No.11970708

>>11967794
>Kant would have his housemaids tie his hands to the bedposts every night to prevent masturbating.
I laffed

>> No.11970716

>>11967777
how is communism not a cult?

>> No.11970717

>>11970708
It's probably a rumor. He was right about the harms of this habit making a man serve the pleasure rather than reaaon.

>> No.11970723

>>11967777
Surefire sign of an NPC is that they keep their windows full screen and read giant 2740 pixel lines of text.
How can anyone read like this?

>> No.11970745

>>11967820
literally /ourguy/

>> No.11970746

>>11967651
did you get this from wiki

>> No.11970752

>>11967820
Basiert und extrem rotgettabletet.

>> No.11970753

>>11967820
welp I'm convinced, buying some Kant

>> No.11970761

Smelly dumb theologian scum. Nietzsche BTFOs his ugly ass, his morality is just there to heal his wounded ego.

>> No.11970764

>>11968186
cope

>> No.11970776

>>11967820
In all seriousness though, anyone who thinks Kant was a callous bastard is an idiot. Being a virgin before marriage in that time was an EXTREMELY BIG DEAL: this was not a minor issue, a little harmless lie. Taking that in consideration, it would have been indeed an EXREMELY shitty thing to do to marry the guy without telling him that she wasn't a virgin. This kind of behavior is not universalizable (would you like to live in a world where matters of extreme importance are lied about before marriage? No, and no rational person would want to), and therefore it IS immoral. Blaming Kant for this girl's death is actually pretty patriarchal, because it assumes the girl was basically a thoughtless animal incapable of making her own choices.

>> No.11970788

>>11970776
how would he know she wasn't a virgin? tightness?

>> No.11970799

>>11970776
the modern equivalent is marrying a post op tranny with HIV without knowing.

>> No.11970805

>>11970788
women had to bleed as their hymen broke on the wedding night.

>> No.11970925

>>11969030
So is survival. In fact, everything is natural.

>> No.11970928

>>11970723
If you use the mouse to help your eyes focus, it only hurts in the right way.

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>>11967794
>>11967820

>> No.11971061

>>11967820
Basato e rossopillolato.

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>>11967820
WEW

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KANT AND SEXUAL PERVERSION
I. THE COLD KANT
>In the first part (the "Doctrine of Right," the Rechtslehre) of his late, post-critical Metaphysics of Morals (1797), which part is devoted to the Law, Immanuel Kant tells us about a crime that is "deserving of death"
with regard to which it still remains doubtful whether legislation is also authorized to impose the death penalty." This crime is "a mother's murder of her child."1 But Kant is not concerned with a Susan Smith, who drowned in an automobile submerged in a lake her properly, legally, conceived children. That it is "doubtful" that the law should be brought to bear against infanticide is reserved by Kant for a special case:

>"Legislation cannot remove the disgrace of an illegitimate birth. ... A child that comes into the world apart from marriage is born outside the law ... and therefore outside the protection of the law. It has, as it were, stolen into the commonwealth (like contraband merchandise), so that the commonwealth can ignore its existence (since it was not right that it should have come to exist this way), and can therefore also ignore its annihilation."

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KANT AND SEXUAL PERVERSION
I. THE COLD KANT
>In the first part (the "Doctrine of Right," the Rechtslehre) of his late, post-critical Metaphysics of Morals (1797), which part is devoted to the Law, Immanuel Kant tells us about a crime that is "deserving of death" with regard to which it still remains doubtful whether legislation is also authorized to impose the death penalty." This crime is "a mother's murder of her child."1 But Kant is not concerned with a Susan Smith, who drowned in an automobile submerged in a lake her properly, legally, conceived children. That it is "doubtful" that the law should be brought to bear against infanticide is reserved by Kant for a special case:

>"Legislation cannot remove the disgrace of an illegitimate birth. ... A child that comes into the world apart from marriage is born outside the law ... and therefore outside the protection of the law. It has, as it were, stolen into the commonwealth (like contraband merchandise), so that the commonwealth can ignore its existence (since it was not right that it should have come to exist this way), and can therefore also ignore its annihilation."

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>>11971133

>> No.11971195

>>11971133
BASED AND REDPILLED

He predicted half nigglets annihilation before it was real.

>> No.11971226

>>11971186
The entire paper reads like it was written by an autist. The first paragraph quoted was the introduction and it lacks a coherent flow or thesis and we can only infer what the paper is about from the title of the work alone.
It is written by a simpleton mind attempting to repudiate the genius that is Kant, and nitpicking away on minor details and attempting to find contradictions within his writings, ultimately arriving at a conclusion where the author feels him being "pervy" [sic] and it being current year somehow invalidates and nullifies Kant's writings (>just a "clunker" guys!). It is a pathetic, cowardly attack on Kant under the guise of pseudoacedemic publication.

>> No.11971246

>>11967820
lol fucking idiot slut

>> No.11971268

Is ocd /lit/

>> No.11971299

>>11967820
wtf I love Kant now

>> No.11971389

>>11967820
nae nae'd and dabbed on

>> No.11971419

>"Immanuel Kant"?
>more like "ay, man, you a cunt"!

>> No.11971422

>>11967651
>severe hypochondriac.
Darwin too

>> No.11971435

>>11967820
based. So where do I start of with my new favourite author?

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>>11971133
Resentful midget.

>> No.11971492

>>11967820
Basé et pilulé rouge.

>> No.11971498

>>11971133
Based Kant btfo illegal immigration and anchor babies centuries before the fact.
He truly was ahead of his time.

>> No.11971500

>>11967651
It's almost as if the convoluted philosophical system Kant devised as a means to "disprove" Swedenborg's visions and relieve himself of the existential anguish they produced in him stems from the same fundamental squeamishness.

>> No.11971569

>>11967820
gebaseerd en geroodpild

>> No.11971662

>>11971569
Neder/lit/ wanneer?

>> No.11971691

>>11967820
baserad och rödpillrad

>> No.11971698

>>11971133
jesus christ kant

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>>11971435
Pic related.
Practice seminal retention (ie, celibacy no sex, no masturbation, chasteness of though, removal of sexually provocative images and literature from your enviroment) for maximum benefit.

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>>11968186
>Celibacy is arguably responsible for all human progress.

>> No.11971718

>>11971133
>Legislation cannot remove the disgrace of an illegitimate birth. ... A child that comes into the world apart from marriage is born outside the law
But if you legislate it then they are no longer born outside the law and the whole reasoning falls apart there.
Was he a brainlet as well as a deformed manlet?

>> No.11972003

>At the beginning of the last year of his life, he fell into a custom of taking immediately after dinner a cup of coffee, especially on those days when it happened that I was of his party. And such was the importance he attached to this little pleasure, that he would even make a memorandum beforehand, in the blank-paper book I had given him, that on the next day I was to dine with him, and consequently that there was to be coffee. Sometimes it would happen, that the interest of conversation carried him past the time at which he felt the craving for it; and this I was not sorry to observe, as I feared that coffee, which he had never been accustomed to, 9 might disturb his rest at night. But, if this did not happen, then commenced a scene of some interest. Coffee must be brought ‘upon the spot,’ (a word he had constantly in his mouth during his latter days,) ‘in a moment.’ And the expressions of his impatience, though from old habit still gentle, were so lively, and had so much of infantine naïveté about them, that none of us could forbear smiling. Knowing what would happen, I had taken care that all the preparations should be made beforehand; the coffee was ground; the water was boiling; and the very moment the word was given, his servant shot in like an arrow, and plunged the coffee into the water. All that remained, therefore, was to give it time to boil up. But this trifling delay seemed unendurable to Kant. All consolations were thrown away upon him: vary the formula as we might, he was never at a loss for a reply. If it was said—‘Dear Professor, the coffee will be brought up in a moment.’—’Will be!’ he would say, ‘but there’s the rub, that it only will be: Man never is, but always to be blest.’
>If another cried out—‘The coffee is coming immediately.’—‘Yes,’ he would retort, ‘and so is the next hour: and, by the way, it’s about that length of time that I have waited for it.’ Then he would collect himself with a stoical air, and say—‘Well, one can die after all: it is but dying; and in the next world, thank God! there is no drinking of coffee, and consequently no—waiting for it.’ Sometimes he would rise from his chair, open the door, and cry out with a feeble querulousness—‘Coffee! coffee!’ And when at length he heard the servant’s step upon the stairs, he would turn round to us, and, as joyfully as ever sailor from the mast-head, he would call out—‘Land, land! my dear friends, I see land.’

>> No.11972031

>>11972003
Can he be more based?

>> No.11972079

>>11967651
No, German.

>> No.11972370

>>11971718
He didn't really say it, that guy is misleading

>> No.11972466

>>11967794
You just know he was addicted lmao

>> No.11972592

>>11972466
Pretty hard to get addicted to that habit without visual stimuli and also having the overarching influence of the medical journals and moral authorities of his day condemning it vehemently. Kant no doubt would have read Tissot.
The man who was addicted was Rousseau. He even took extreme measures to ensure his children wouldn't fall into the habit.

>> No.11973137

>>11967820
The best part of this is that Kant placed his philosophy on the foundation of free will, so he is in no way responsible for the woman’s decision to kill herself, as she is a rational huma excersizing her will. What she couldn’t know is that she wouldn’t be alive to know whether her action became a universal moral law or not. Good work Kant

>> No.11973418

>>11967863
Holy allah he's perfect.

>> No.11973451

>>11967820
Source?

>> No.11973461

"Immanuel Kant was a philosopher but he
was also interested in astronomy.
He heard about the “nebulae” and he postu
lated that they are separate “worlds”
similar to ours i.e. the Milky Way gala
xy. He coined the concept of an “island
Universe”. At that time no observational
evidence to support this model existed
but, surprisingly, Kant was right!""

>The nebular hypothesis is the most widely accepted model in the field of cosmogony to explain the formation and evolution of the Solar System (as well as other planetary systems). It suggests that the Solar System is formed from the nebulous material. The theory was developed by Immanuel Kant and published in his Allgemeine Naturgeschichte und Theorie des Himmels ("Universal Natural History and Theory of the Heavens"), published in 1755. Originally applied to the Solar System, the process of planetary system formation is now thought to be at work throughout the Universe.[1] The widely accepted modern variant of the nebular hypothesis is the solar nebular disk model (SNDM) or solar nebular model.[2] It offered explanations for a variety of properties of the Solar System, including the nearly circular and coplanar orbits of the planets, and their motion in the same direction as the Sun's rotation. Some elements of the original nebular hypothesis are echoed in modern theories of planetary formation, but most elements have been superseded.

Was Kant an extraterrestrial?
Was he even human?
We need to exhume his remains and test the DNA.

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>>11973461

>> No.11973475

>>11967863
does he have a shrill high pitched voice? then he would really be perfect

>> No.11973480

>>11967820
Oh yeah im thinking this is based and redpilled

>> No.11974483

>>11967744
Kant isn't only continental, his idea's permeate throughout all knowledge.

>> No.11974496

>>11974483
Kant was the second greatest man to ever live.

>> No.11975356

>>11972003
>rambles about "animal desires"
>is a drug addict

What did he mean by this?

>> No.11975395

>>11967651
>Was it autism?

All Germans are autistic.
Kant was a German.
Therefore Kant was autistic.

>> No.11975416

>>11967744
strange circumstances produce unique talents

math and physics owe a lot to schizophrenic goblins too

>> No.11975427

>>11968258
so basically you didn't understand kant and not only are you admitting that publicly but you're acting like it's to your credit

unreal

>> No.11975444

>Our moral code is based on the ramblings of an autistic resentful goblin.

The actual state of West. Nietzsche was right.

>> No.11975451

>>11975395
he wasn't german

>> No.11975473

>>11967794
>Kant would have his housemaids tie his hands to the bedposts every night to prevent masturbating.

the absolute werewolf

>> No.11975628

>>11975356
>desire to take a preparation of roasted coffee beans extracted into a hot beverage with psychoactive properties with little if any hedonistic effect that itself promotes wakefulness and cognition is the same as base pleasure that drugs the lofty mind down and makes you a slave to pleasure
not gonna make it

>> No.11975646

>>11975628
Coffee turns you into a drooling retard.

>> No.11975647

>>11975646
Animal desires turn you into a bugman

>> No.11975657

>>11975647
In some ways, yes. Though a lot of it is also actively subverting your own nature to benefit others and facilitate their control over you.

>> No.11976138

>>11975444
Nietzsche was wrong

>> No.11976166

>>11972003
This is my favorite Kantpasta

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>>11967820
this was Schopenhauer though

>> No.11976293

>>11967651
No, he just went mad from his degenerate atheism. As all atheists do.

>> No.11976330

>>11976293
>Kant
>Atheist
Pick one.

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>It would not be safe, however, to follow Kant's method of living. He worked eight hours on very poor food, a pipe of tobacco, and a cup of tea; but he made up for his haste at breakfast by spending an extravagantly long time over his dinner. He is recorded to have spent three hours over this event. His biographer tells us that for many years he ate only one meal a day but that with a keen appetite. The dinner usually consisted of three courses namely soup, dried pulse with fish, and a roast together with a dessert of cheese, to which fruit was added in summer He always drank wine and water at dinner never beer against which he had a strong prejudice.
>If he heard of any one who died in the prime of life Kant would say, "he probably drank beer," and, if the indisposition of a person was mentioned, he was apt to ask, "Does he drink beer at night?"

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>"For Kant, the Jews were "a nation of swindlers," "a people composed solely of merchants," and "slaves of the law"; since the Old Testament has no concept of immortality, the Jews lack a sense of "higher values," are materialistic, and thus devoted only to material survival.
>On Jews — e.g., the Jews are “sharp dealers” who are “bound together by superstition.” Their “immoral and vile” behavior in commerce shows that they “do not aspire to civic virtue,” for “the spirit of usury holds sway amongst them.” They are “a nation of swindlers” who benefit only “from deceiving their host’s culture.”
Any truth to these? I see some scholars reference them, not just fringe (more like cringe, amirite?) stormretard websites.

>> No.11976467

>>11976293
>The absolute state of religionfags

>> No.11976472

>>11967651
>constipation clouded his brain

This is true. It's like having an overflowing septic tank. It seeps into all layers of your body.

>> No.11976474

>>11976450
>>"For Kant, the Jews were "a nation of swindlers," "a people composed solely of merchants," and "slaves of the law"; since the Old Testament has no concept of immortality, the Jews lack a sense of "higher values," are materialistic, and thus devoted only to material survival.
>>On Jews — e.g., the Jews are “sharp dealers” who are “bound together by superstition.” Their “immoral and vile” behavior in commerce shows that they “do not aspire to civic virtue,” for “the spirit of usury holds sway amongst them.” They are “a nation of swindlers” who benefit only “from deceiving their host’s culture.”

This is also true. Videlicet; the corruption of American society after WW2, corruption of Germany as Weimar Republic, the expulsion of usurer jews from Spain, etc.

>> No.11976496

>>11976467
>The absolute state of atheistfags

>> No.11976500

>>11967820
basein und redpillheim
Is there any sources where you can't find the exchange? Sound pretty interesting

>> No.11976981

Was Kant a nice man?

>> No.11977087

>>11968186
t. brainlet

>> No.11977214

>>11970799
And there are faggots here trying to defend luing

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>>11967794
>Kant would have his housemaids tie his hands to the bedposts every night to prevent masturbating.
I'm gonna need a source for that one.

>> No.11977853

>>11977241
He did wear a tight blanket and had an odd routine prior to bed of getting into it but I doubt this anecdote about having a nurse tie his hands is true. However, he was a vehemently opposed to masturbation and by all accounts led a remarkably chaste life, which in no small measure contributed to his remarkable productivity and genius.