/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11967624]

Is niceposting an example of the DFW’s New Sincerity? As Reddit grows more and more hateful, 4chan seems to be a much friendlier place.

[Anonymous No.11967656]

>tfw no pepe to be your fren

[Anonymous No.11967708]

>>11967624
This pic just unironically made me cry. I squandered all my friendships and it hurts. I wish i could go back

[Anonymous No.11967718]

>>11967624
>Star wars

[Anonymous No.11967723]

>>11967708
Sometimes I feel like my adult friendships will never reach the sincerity of my friendships from high school.

[Anonymous No.11967728]

>>11967624
tfw you will never be able to go back in time and save all your neglected friendships

[Anonymous No.11967731]

>>11967708
Iktf

[Anonymous No.11967738]

>>11967624
>>11967731
Keep em comin

[Anonymous No.11967745]

>>11967723
>>11967728
>>11967708

I have good memories of most of my ex-friends but I also keep the bad memories alive. There is a reason I have cut people out of my life and at time when I get nostalgic I try to counterbalance those thoughts with the negative ones before I pick up the phone/social media whatever and try to reconnect.

[Anonymous No.11967752]

>>11967738

[Anonymous No.11967771]

>>11967624
>tfw never had good friendships to neglect in the first place
See ya later, losers

[Anonymous No.11967776]

>>11967624
Shut the fuck up about New Sincerity, it doesn't exist. It was something DFW irreverently made up in a pointless essay ("what if the REAL rebels were the people who weren't rebellious at all... ever thought about that?"), and then some pimply undergraduate hacks tried to suck DFW's dick and look important in the process by claiming his new novel was part of this great new literary movement, even though this movement was basically the equivalent of a 10 year old nerd thinking that if, instead of trying to act cool like everyone else, he would act exactly like himself, he would eventually get friends for being so self-confident, an idea that if you really think about it is lifted from every children's TV programme ever (something that I'm pretty sure DFW watched a fuck ton of, both as an TV addicted child and a marijuana addicted adult).

[Anonymous No.11967781]

>>11967624
It's just a form of s4s shitposting.

[Anonymous No.11967786]

I wanna hug you guys irl

[Anonymous No.11967796]

It seems kinda ironic to me, but I don't know what to think anymore

[Anonymous No.11967810]

>>11967752
If you have anymore of these, I'd really appreciate them anon.

[Anonymous No.11967834]

I find the "wholesome" meme shit that's on the internet everywhere else now to be really, horribly insincere. I can't quite put my finger on it.
Meanwhile I think 4chan is beginning to groan and buckle under the constant irony to the point where people here are desperate for some kind of sincere human interaction. Apu Apustaja seems to be a genuinely well-meaning meme, though the fact that sincerity needs to be attached to a meme at all is a little sad, "This picture here is so you know I'm not actually secretly being mean", you know. Maybe people aren't ready to fully commit, yet.

[Anonymous No.11967839]

>>11967810
This is the last one I have, if anyone else has more wholesome comics please share

[Anonymous No.11967866]

>>11967834
>Apu Apustaja seems to be a genuinely well-meaning meme

You understand it originated from finnish imageboard to mock a fucking retarded autist that was so disabled in real life that he would have actual government paid "food help helpers" (=Apu Apustus) to bring him tendies, lemonade and sandwiches and every night he would take a picture of these shitty meals the government workers would bring him

It is not some well-meaning meme, originally to make fun of fucking disabled frogposters for what they are in real life

[Anonymous No.11967870]

>>11967866
memes transform anon

[Anonymous No.11967880]

>>11967866
Well, I didn't know that. Kinda puts a downer on it, huh.

[Anonymous No.11967892]

>>11967839

[Anonymous No.11967902]

>>11967834
i agree a lot of wholesome memes are incredibly shallow and insincere. but much like the evolution of irony on the internet i believe (hope at least) that as time goes on this way of expression becomes increasingly nuanced and varied

[Anonymous No.11967919]

>>11967708
when I think about who we were vs who we became, I am filled with grief

[Anonymous No.11967931]

>>11967892
Haha

This meme is fucking gay anyway

[Anonymous No.11967955]

>>11967892
why do fags have to ruin everything

[Anonymous No.11968007]

>>11967834
>I find the "wholesome" meme shit that's on the internet everywhere else now to be really, horribly insincere.
It's insincere because it's superficial. People aren't genuinely trying to grow more empathic and understanding in their thoughts and actions towards other people, because that would take actual effort -they just want to do the bare minimum to feign improvement. It's like when people comment 'omg ur so beautiful' on Youtube videos of disfigured people; it's easy. Actual 'wholesomeness' requires you to exercise patience and genuine understanding in daily life, which is really difficult to enact.
This really isn't unique to the 'wholesome' movement thought, it's standard human behavior. People always want to appropriate something grand without actually having to put in any effort or change their lifestyle in any meaningful way. This is only peripherally related, but I was listening to 'Do Re Mi' from the Sound of Music on Youtube, and somebody in the comments had posted 'all I know about music theory, I learned from this song :D' -note the dumb shit smiley face. Of course that's nonsense, the song doesn't teach you the slightest bit of music theory, but it's easy to pretend you gained something while doing nothing at all. I believe it's the same principle that drives the wholesome meme shit.

[Anonymous No.11968010]

>>11967892
this was a decent thread until here

[Anonymous No.11968011]

>>11967931
>>11967955
True friendship cannot exist without some amount of sexual tension

This is a freudian fact

[Anonymous No.11968048]

>>11968007
I'm more interested in how things are changing. Are we always going to be like this or could this lead to some great movement in our lifetime?

[Anonymous No.11968058]

>>11968048
>Muh 4chinz movement

Spend some time outside this site: some trends appearing here have nothing to do whatsoever of social, economical or political zeitgeist even though /pol/ wants you to believe so.

[Anonymous No.11968173]

>>11967708
Yup
I swear, adulthood is fucking shit. All it is is looking back with regret at all the relationships you fucked up and the people who are no longer in your life anymore
You try to form similar connections (or don't) and they never reach the same level. Nobody is willing to give themselves fully because they already have plenty of friends or are too busy or simply just don't like you

[Anonymous No.11968184]

>>11968173

You are trapped in a type of psychosis so cunning that it presents itself as rational.

If you could only have even the slightest kernel of faith that things could be better, you would acquire things far beyond your conception. You have no idea how much better things can be.

[Anonymous No.11968197]

>>11968184
You're right. Although I don't even know if I'd want friends if I had them
I remember as a kid I'd be looking forward to a sleepover all week, could hardly sleep I was so excited. Then within an hour of my friends being over I'd want them to leave already
Similar with my relationships, would really want to date them, or when we were dating I'd look forward to seeing them, we'd get together, have sex or whatever and then I'd want to leave

[Anonymous No.11968316]

>>11968011
Fags say the darndest things

[Anonymous No.11968325]

Probably just a collective realization that you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

[Anonymous No.11968331]

>>11968197
as cliche as it is, you should start being a better friend to yourself. i mean really clear away the things that prevent you from accepting your own dignity as a human being. if nothing else, this can make life worth living. you may even make a friend or two

[Anonymous No.11968760]

>>11967708
>>11968173
Regret is a false emotion. You could restart the time line any number of time you want and things would still play the same. You'd make the same choices, or your friends would still leave you.
It's fine to be sad about things that happened or didn't happen, but regret and remorse are retarded. At least that's how I see things. I cry a bunch about it, and it may feel great but I have to move on at some point, because if I hang on it I start feeling bad.
I saw the opportunities youth had to offer pass by me because I was too dumb to make anything of them and I don't regret it. I weeped a lot but I moved on. And now I don't feel anything at all, because it seems adulthood is the same thing but without the excitement and freshness of teenage-hood. Making friends is so hard as an adult male. I should just sit down and do nothing.

[Anonymous No.11968780]

>>11967723
this, theres a sublime honesty to the friendships you have as a child and as a teenager that you just can't form after the age of 18 or so. Friends then were like an endless well of entertainment that you just couldn't get enough of, I don't think I'll ever laugh as hard as i did then.

[Anonymous No.11968891]

>>11967624
I have a best friend I've known since childhood and these comics
>>11967731
>>11967752
>>11967839
Literally describe our friendship. I am Wojak and he is Pepe and he is my only friend. He's a Pepe and has friends and is content with life and I am a Wojak stuck with no friends so I turned to mathematics, like and logic to better spend my time alive. I most likely have delusions of grandeur because my IQ is also higher than most people and I never put any effort into high school because it was so trivial yet got all As. I don't want to be this person, so cold and aloof, but I have forgotten how to make friends.

[Anonymous No.11969664]

Man, I've never related to Apu or Apu posters. The whole thing feels so foreign to me.

[Anonymous No.11969673]

>>11967624
>>11967708
>le pepe and wojak
Fuck off cancer double niggers

[Anonymous No.11969675]

>>11968011
(((Freud))) projected his coke-fueled weirdness onto the entire human race, my friend

[Anonymous No.11969685]

>>11969673
being hateful is a reddit thing now, fellow redditor (I am also hateful)

[Anonymous No.11969714]

>>11967624
I think 4chan has shown that anonymity allows people to grow to be at ease wih one another, perhaps that's also a meanjngful byproduct of rules 1&2, lurk more, and anti-newfaggotry; the perception of there being a mutual hurdle, after which you areamong peers. It has been my perception that 4chan has always been a friendly place relative to forums, BBS, IRC, and more recent social media, as posts are not driven by deceipt (the exception being shilling, whether political, product placement, etc. - but this is more recent).

I'm not convinced it's related to new sincerity though.

[Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk No.11969774]

>>11967624
I think the userbase here has become a little bit older and not intoxicated with so much angst. Even those who are extremely bitter probably know better than to take it out on other anons.

/pol/ is the exception to this rule and maybe some other boards I don't look at.

[Anonymous No.11969799]

>>11967892
Me and my friend - looks like us, acts like us.

[Anonymous No.11969802]

>>11968011
I think this is true desu

[Anonymous No.11969807]

>>11969774
>I think the userbase here has become a little bit older and not intoxicated with so much angst
Older and more bitter, but some actually value this site because it's the only place where they socialize (I'm not saying this is a bad thing, though it is probably a sad one).

[Anonymous No.11969816]

>>11969774
>/pol/ is the exception to this rule and maybe some other boards I don't look at.
because /pol/ has the most newfags

[Anonymous No.11969834]

>>11968891
I think a hobby is a good way to start with new friends.
>If you can't choose one i choose karate for you.

[Anonymous No.11969857]

>>11967708
>>11967723
>tfw never had friends

[Anonymous No.11969963]

>>11969857
I'll be your friend.

[Anonymous No.11970215]

I grew out of being an edge lord (24 now) and despite what somebody might think, i feel most everybody here has been here for a long time. I think we are all growing up, and i just think compassion comes with age. We've all been miserable, and i doubt anybody here wishes for us all to be miserable. So since we have all been shitposting together, we just kind of care about this place.

You're all fucking niggers still though. Best girl misato. Skub a best.

[Anonymous No.11970246]

>>11970215
I'll agree with this. I've felt myself growing out of being such an edgelord the further I get into my 20s.

[Anonymous No.11970248]

>>11970215
I love you but also kys

[Anonymous No.11970474]

>>11970246
It just stops being as funny, and there are so many normalfags on the Internet that its not even fun to fuck with them like it used to be.

>>11970248
No u

[Anonymous No.11970490]

>>11967892
best one

[Anonymous No.11970569]

>>11970215
>I feel like most everybody here has been here for a long time.

Speak for yourself I only started posting here yesterday. But man this place seems great.

[Anonymous No.11970576]

>>11970569
fuck you newfag, you are whats wrong with society

[Anonymous No.11970591]

>>11967776
This. DFW was very insincere.

[Anonymous No.11970592]

>>11970569
Newfag gtfo.

[Anonymous No.11970718]

>>11969774
>/pol/ is the exception to this rule and maybe some other boards I don't look at.
And /r9k/.

[Anonymous No.11970756]

>>11969857
yeah this is what irritates me the most about these meme threads. at least some people experienced hugs and laughs and fun times. even if you are distorting your memories or whatever, understand some people only had imaginary friends, characters in books or videogames. it's been 25 years since i've touched another human being. let that sink in a little you normie fucks.

[Anonymous No.11970762]

>>11970756
you touched me, anon...

[Anonymous No.11970842]

>>11970576
>>11970592

I don't want you guys to kys, but God does.

[Anonymous No.11970883]

>>11967866
but the point is that the finn lived a totally genuine life. He was too retarded and autistic to ever attempt irony or sophistication - he was childlike innocence.
By using apu as an avatar, an anon can humble himself to the level of the retarded social worker dependent finn. He casts aside all pretensions and exposes the most sensitive, genuine, mockable parts of himself. Sure there's a mean edge to it, but there's also a beautiful humility, especially in the way it's evolved and moved to the mainstream.
To post apu is to affirm that we are all kinda autistic, and have no need to pretend otherwise here

[Anonymous No.11970895]

>>11967776
Wait, the real rebels are the ones being nice. It’s really easy to be a cynical asshole. It’s hard to acknowledge experiencing things you don’t like and still be a good example for other people.

[Anonymous No.11970915]

>>11970756
How is that possible? I’m genuinely curious. I don’t get much deliberate physical contact and have some skin issues/ongoing infections that make me not want to establish physical intimacy but I still occasionally brush up against a stranger on the train or bus or if a service employee is handing me a cup or a bag or something

[Anonymous No.11970959]

>>11970883
tfw apu is mario

[Anonymous No.11971025]

>>11970215
I also feel this way anon, but i recently started coming back after a long abscence cause i noticed this place's mentality from a few years ago was actually starting to take a toll on my psyche, so i left and boy how things have changed, it's not that 4chan made me miserable, i was a sad fuck before, but the shitty thoughts from everyone here certainly weren't helping. I still don't browse /b/ anymore, lost track of the memes and it's filled with fucking filth for the mind, i only browse /lit/ and /x/ these days and yeah people seem nicer

[Anonymous No.11971030]

>>11967723
They won't. Friendship is a dream that stems from childhood.

[Anonymous No.11971064]

I don't know about this site on the whole getting nicer people, but I have come to the realization that it is better to transcend the edgy high horse mindset that anonymity allows for and instead attempt to be reasonable and civil to the best of my ability online, even on sites like this. Though anonymity masks it, your posts are still an extension of you and your thoughts, and forgetting this can lead you towards becoming more openly hostile or vitriolic in real world situations. Not everyone will have this issue, however it is prominent enough to be worth mentioning

[Anonymous No.11971080]

>>11970883
well said anon