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Why is it that women are able to imagine men’s subjectivity, but men cannot imagine women’s?

>> No.11957308

i read that tolstoy book 'family happiness' written from a girls perspective which made me feel like a girl

>> No.11957316

>>11957308
how did it make you feel?

>> No.11957317

Women imagine being able to imagine men's subjectivity while men are too honest intellectually to pretend to imagine a subjectivity that doesn't exist.

>> No.11957336

>>11957301
I'm glad I'm agender.

>> No.11957340

>>11957336
of course you’re a gender, you’re either boy or girl, ST UPID

>> No.11957344

>>11957340
>all 4chan posters are animate

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>>11957301
bc women always step outside their comfort zone and usually aren't pretentious fuckers like most men
every mediocre man feels like they're DA SHIT, this is an art block when it comes to sensitivity and subjectivity.
i blame the patriarchal society that makes most men unable to do tons of simple society shit. men are cutting their own throat.
few men are ok btw, few females aren't ok

>> No.11957363

>>11957354
whats wrong with thinking you're the shit? if anything women are the retards that dont have self-confidence

>> No.11957367

Same reason British actors and singers can fake American accents but not the other way around. One is considered the default and everyone is used to it because its standardised.

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>>11957301
Of course slave has to know her master's subjectivity.

>> No.11957372

>>11957354
>most men
>pretentious
how middleclass do you have to be

>> No.11957374

>>11957354
t. First year student at a state university enrolled in feminist theory 201.

>> No.11957377

>>11957354
this is the realest shit i've seen on this board

>> No.11957381
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>>11957301
Well anyone can imagine anything, but it’s just harder for people of a sex to write in the perspective of the opposite one. Anna Katharine is good but the outsiders is also good

>> No.11957382

>>11957374
>>11957372
>>11957363
>this much coping

>> No.11957383

>>11957301
>women can understand men
good fucking joke

>> No.11957390

>caring about womemes

>> No.11957392

>>11957382
>none
>much

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>>11957382
You know it’s true.

>> No.11957401

Women are dumb.

>> No.11957404

Oh it's another
>Why does (something that never happens) happen?
thread

>> No.11957407

>>11957377
Back to the cotton field now

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>>11957317
>>11957363
>>11957369
>>11957374
>>11957383
>>11957390
>>11957392
>>11957398
>>11957401
>>11957407

>> No.11957414

>>11957316
wistful

>> No.11957419

women like to empathise with others. Their brains are adapted to override anxieties they might have about their feelings to achieve this.

This is often reflected in their discourse. Girls will adopt another girl's conversational style to achieve 'sameness' with the other.

Honestly think this is far more beneficial than worrying about your ego so much.

>> No.11957420

>>11957363
umm we be queens ya'll

>> No.11957423

I've grown to resent women for being incapable of love. They simply can't into agape or philia. They have made it impossible for two people to give themselves entirely to one another. You can only have physical love between man and woman and metaphysical love between man and man.

>> No.11957425

>>11957419
>Proud Social Justice Warrior !BgjMIiqmkk

>> No.11957428
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CRINGE

>> No.11957429

>>11957411
Ah yes, misusing a meme. A true sign of patrician argumentation.

>> No.11957435

>>11957428
so what. You stalked my facebook good for you.

>> No.11957436
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11957436

> thinking this thread would be good for discussion
> it’s just a shit flinging contest

>> No.11957437

>>11957301
It's about how men and women are raised in our society. Man thoughts are the "standart", so they never think outside their boxes.
>“One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman.”
>"I used to get
annoyed in abstract discussions to hear men tell me: “You think such
and such a thing because you’re a woman.” But I know my only
defense is to answer, “I think it because it is true,” thereby eliminating
my subjectivity; it was out of the question to answer, “And you think
the contrary because you are a man,” because it is understood that
being a man is not a particularity; a man is in his right by virtue of
being man; it is the woman who is in the wrong."
Simone de Beauvoir

>> No.11957442

>>11957411
Being this much of a newfag.

>> No.11957444

you are given this impression because men are much less likely to complain about mischaracterization

>> No.11957448

>>11957436
>thinking this thread would be good for discussion
That's pretty fucking retarded.
>space after memearrow
That explains it.

>> No.11957450

>>11957444
>wahhh why do metoo imply all men are rapists thats so meaaaaaan!!!!!!

>> No.11957456

>>11957444
mate reading literature is a very important thing. If you fuck it up you have to live with the knowledge that you're a pseud.

>> No.11957461

>>11957437
>“And you think the contrary because you are a man,
Simone's dream has become fact! Can a man express himself without having his manhood scrutinised? The mansplainer..

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>>11957448
This is an interesting topic. Most of literature or at the very least western canon is written in a make perspective with a male protagonist. While there’s nothing wrong with that a female perspective is also interesting at times. Yet because of years of male perspectives it’s hard as fuck for some to write in the feminine side of things. They’re are many interesting qualities of women that make great stories.

>> No.11957467

>>11957429
I am not trying to be patrician with people that don't even understands basic logic nor have arguments, there's no such thing as discussing with ones that are incapable of argumentation and discussions.
I have talked in their language, memes.

>> No.11957469

>>11957354
Well, of course. Mediocre men ARE like that. And you need a REAL MAN.

>> No.11957474

>>11957465
plain toast: the post

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>>11957465
This fucking phone can’t write for shit

>> No.11957479

There was an autistic kid at my school who was a very gifted classical pianist. They put on a piano recital one day in assembly. The crowd went nuts. I applauded just as loudly as the rest of them.
I was genuinely glad for him. Even though he was obviously challenged he had this one thing he was good at.

So I’m genuinely happy for women and their gifts for subjectivity and multi tasking and giving birth and breastfeeding.

>> No.11957484

>>11957474
Femme fatales are hot dude.
Don’t you get tried if all the stories about sad guys contemplating life?

>> No.11957486

>>11957469
Real man are also mediocre, the standart for a man is way low the needed one.
>>11957479
Women aren't naturally capable of multi tasking, men that aren't forced to be multitask since young age as women are.

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>>11957486
EPIC CRINGE!!

>> No.11957493

>>11957484
>don't you get tired
I've been posting here for years. Not tired yet

>> No.11957495

>>11957484
>Femme fatales are hot dude.
True, if non sequiturial.
>Don’t you get tried if all the stories about sad guys contemplating life
Don't read a lot of them, so no.

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>/lit/ arguing about women

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>>11957461

>> No.11957509

>>11957496
zozzle
>>11957500
nozzle

>> No.11957515

to be honest I wish I could fuck a woman right now but don't exactly have intimate connections and don't want to do my tinder gimmick.

>> No.11957525

>>11957515
>blogposting and tripfagging at the same time

>> No.11957526

>>11957515
>wanting to fuck a women
>not wanting to have a deep and authentic conversation about the human experience with a woman instead
pig

>> No.11957545

>>11957525
u just gotta love it don't you. I'm passively trying to get banned desu.

>> No.11957557

>men and women are inherently different and not separated because of spooks
Lmao, only animals are swayed by their hormones.

>> No.11957559

>little girl falls asleep in my arms once
>think about her every day and replicate it every night with pillow

do you think she does the same?

>> No.11957560

>>11957526
already have that...but there's a reason why we don't fuck...

it's because I am such a gentleman that I literally get friendzoned within the first minute of meeting someone.

>> No.11957565

>>11957557
>last season memes

>> No.11957567

>>11957565
>memes

>> No.11957569

>>11957560
>it's because I am such a gentleman that I literally get friendzoned
yeah i'm sure that's it, you're too nice to get people to like you

>> No.11957573

>>11957559
you should get arrested

>> No.11957580

>>11957573
>pair bonding is illegal now

>> No.11957586

>>11957569
no no they like me. But I open my statement with another woman like this:

You are amazingly attractive to me, please don't take that the wrong way. My name is...pleased to meet you. I just felt liked I needed to say that so you don't misinterpret my motives. I want to be open and honest with you. Your beauty gives me inspiration to a whole new realm of worlds I never imagined. No doubt your appearance has influenced you in many ways. You must have an incredible mind, I'd love to get to know you.

>> No.11957588

>>11957580
yes you sick fuck

>> No.11957597

>>11957586
>defining and categorizing women primarily by their looks
double-pig

>> No.11957614

>>11957560
just say you're ugly don't use faggy codephrases

>> No.11957635

>>11957597
It's nature. Ugly women need to try to win my affection rather than the other way around. This can happen quite easily because I appreciate confidence.

>> No.11957639

>>11957354
0/10 b8 last sentence and “patriarchy” gave it away

>> No.11957648

>>11957635
>>11957597
also ugly is subjective. Many women who are 10s to some are 4s to me and vice versa.

>> No.11957652

>>11957635
>>11957648
>trying to justify your chauvinism
double-pig squared

>> No.11957657

>>11957639
>implying he's wrong
>implying the patriarchy isn't a thing

Anyone who claims that current society is anywhere near close to the feminist ideal clearly hasn't read feminist theory.

>> No.11957662

>>11957652
Is that (2pig)^2 or 2(pig^2)?

>> No.11957664

>>11957657
>feminist ideal
there's no such thing, feminism is a negative ideology

>> No.11957665

>>11957354
based

>> No.11957668

>>11957639
>can't deal with the truth
not accepting that we live in a patriarchal society just makes more evident that we live in one, thanks

>> No.11957671

>>11957363
this honestly, the number of women incapable of carrying on a conversation due to crippling insecurity is baffling

>> No.11957672

>>11957664
SJWs aren't feminists. They're some of the most sexist individuals around and ultimately help enforce the patriarchy.

>> No.11957673

>>11957467
I am not trying to be patrician with people that don't even understands basic logic nor have arguments
>don't even understands
>nor

God, could you be any more cringey?

>> No.11957675

>>11957411
Nothing more NPC than being a feminist

>> No.11957680

>>11957673
>muh u cringe muh
>argument
You're pitiful

>> No.11957684

>>11957662
which is the larger pig

>> No.11957688

>>11957680
At least I have self respect. Enjoy your castrated sense of self-righteousness.

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>>11957354
>bc women always step outside their comfort zone
How can you unironically believe this?
What have women done in human history, they have just stayed indoors raising children and dumb gays shit like that.
Men are the explorers, the invaders, the conquerors, the pioneers, the colonists, the inventors.
Women are just mad jealous, stay mad roasties.

>> No.11957704

>>11957684
Did you fail high school?

>> No.11957706

>>11957419
>to achieve 'sameness'
then why not go whole hog and just wear what 'the other' wears or, better yet, also at least attempt to fuck her boyfriend?
Poor endeavor to make something that's almost entirely unconscious (and always vehemently denied whenever so much as even suggested) appear to be a 'conscious strategy,' or.. a very clever bit of irony on your part, 'SJW.'
I'll cut a break and assume the latter. Well done, anon.

>> No.11957711

>>11957692
Only great men did those things. Mediocre men stay in their comfort zone more often than not.

Mediocre women also stay in their comfort zone, while great women actually go out a make a name for themselves.

The difference between a great man and a great woman is that a great woman is statistically less likely to let their ego get the better of them.

>> No.11957722

>>11957704
4x is not necessarily larger than 2x^2

>> No.11957730
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>>11957692
History are made by man. History and society are ruled by men so rebels (women that don't agree with this status quo are supressed by society)
Men are raised to be the explorers, the invaders, the conquerors, the pioneers, the colonists, the inventors and women to be uterus and mothers.
Even with all this repression against women and boycott to rebels (patriarchal society), we still know a bunch of GREAT women that have done incredible shit through the years to humanity. This show how women are as much capable of doing anything that a man can do.
See? You guys can't step outside this status quo and know more about what's not in main media.
Everyone needs to study more about humanity and society. What's the point of reading so much and not thinking on its own?
>>11957711
>statistically
We're not simple animals anymore, society influences our lives. We need to understand society to understand the standart behavior

>> No.11957752

>>11957722
>4x

>> No.11957761

>>11957730
Why is history made by men? Why is history and society ruled by men? Why are women repressed?
Why are there no successful matriarchies? Why aren't women capable of resisting oppression on their own?
Its because they are just weaker versions of men. No matter how much you guys shill for feminism, women aren't going to want to sleep with you, you creepy nicegoys.
>>11957711
The only women who could be considered great have been enabled by men.
Truly great people, like Mohammed, Genghis Khan, Hitler, the people that work themselves up from nothing to wield huge amounts of power, they are always men. Women exist solely to be lead. This is the way it has always been and this is the way it will always be.
An increase in the influence of women in public life is symptom of a dying society.

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>>11957301
Consider reading pic related. It's a great start point (study are made of multiple philosophers and books) to understand your question more deeply.

>> No.11957770

>>11957752
Typo, still holds.
Why are you assuming pig to be a positive?

>> No.11957780

>>11957367
This

>> No.11957789

>>11957770
I'm not autistic.

>> No.11957819

>>11957770
(2pig)^2 = 4pig^2
2(pig^2) = 2pig^2

4pig^2 is always greater than 2pig^2. If pig is a negative value it turns positive because it has been squared.

>> No.11957835

>>11957819
Not at 0.

>> No.11957847
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>>11957730
Most women are biologically moral slaves of what other people think of them, they dont have much free will despite always wanting equality and freedom of choice.
Many men also went agaisnt the status quo and failed for several reasons, dont try to say that women who went agaisnt it aswell were surpressed because they were women.
Al the ultra marxists expirements done during the 50's and 60's trying to prove men and women are truly equal in every aspect have always failed.(See link)
Most of the great women in history dont even come close to the great top dogs in history, their fame is mostly inflated.
http://www.heretical.com/wilson/rkibbutz.html

Also trying to say that the current "status quo" is being agaisnt women only tells me you are either a hyperfemenist, or you dont really pay attention to the news. Even in today's time most of the european goverments are forced to reserve seats for women, even if there arent any competent female suitors for the job at the moment.

>> No.11957851

>>11957835
Implying pig e could ever be zero

pig e
pige

>> No.11957854

>>11957851
>>11957819
>>11957770
Pige

>> No.11957860

Roasties literally cannot comprehend how a man cognates

>> No.11957868

>>11957657
>>11957668
We live in a matriarchy actually.

>> No.11957879

>>11957711
How do you quantify someone letting their ego get the better of them statistically?

>> No.11957889

>>11957868
No we don't.
The men with all the money just like to LARP as feminists and promote it to placate and satisfy women so they will buy more stuff and consume like the NPCs they.
Most men are lemmings but all women are lemmings.

>> No.11957890

>>11957879
You can count several instances in history of legendary male figures falling because of hubris. There are fewer numbers of legendary females this happens to.

>> No.11957892

>>11957847
>the first part

I do pay attention to the news and still not equal. Europe does not represent society/humanity and what we have in euro goverment is a result of years of fights reinforcing our rights, doesn't mean that euro society isn't still patriarchal nor sexist. Actual changes in the core of society delay.
You men think that u can give women 2 biscuits and call it rights, no.
If you're pay attention to the news, you should start paying attention to the history and the rest of the world too.

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>>11957354

>> No.11957912

>>11957301
I often hear women say that they don't understand men.

>> No.11957917

>>11957890
There are much fewer legendary females overall. But you still cant measure an ego so how can you be entitely certain it is hubris and not the millions of other factors as well that leads to this fall?

>> No.11957920

>>11957889
>The men with all the money
Women spend 85% of the world's wealth.

>> No.11957926

>>11957354
And he'd be right to feel so! Men are the best.

I don't get why the feminists, in literature of all fields, would want to get into comparisons between men and women.

>> No.11957929

>>11957920
Because most women are smart and don't waste it on somebody else.

>> No.11957931

>>11957920
sure thing

>> No.11957934

>>11957929
So theyre selfish?

>> No.11957942

>>11957920
>Women spend 85% of the world's wealth.
What are you trying to prove?
They are spending money, not making it.
So congratulations I guess, women are mindless consumerist drones.

>> No.11957954

>>11957851
>>11957854
wtf is a pig e

>> No.11957961

>>11957761
This is the only post you need to read in this thread.

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>>11957892
Im honestly curious to know what is it still not equal. Honestly, tell me what right now is not equal and not for the benefit of women.
Even in my engineering field of study, women are largely seen as more valuable than men here. There is almost an endless propaganda saying engineering courses that are mostly
frequented by men are a problem but a field with women as a majority is not.

Not to even mention how the fact that you simply have a hole gives you an upper hand at finding a job in my field compared to men. Companies trying to employ engineers much prefer to employ a woman with very little extracurricular stuff to a man with much better qualities.
People these days confuse the meaning of "equality" and "justice", in my opinion the status quo has been favouring women a lot more and trying to solve their problems by pushing down men, creating even more inequality

>> No.11957979

I realize that women cannot be asexual.
Women love sex and love to desire sex.

Men love sex but they do not love much nor dislike much the desire for sex. In fact the desire for sex is more like an hindrance and a thing to eject, precisely by wanking and ejaculation that is the pinnacle of fucking a slag.
men still despise not loving sex, since it removes the most effective mechanism of valuation that they have, which leads them to the usual mockery of being shagless didlos remaingin on the shelf, being baby dicks and being asexual.
Men despise asexuality in men since it shows them to be far less dominant than the story they plays in their heads

Women despise asexuality in men, since the few asexual men (very few are handsome) no longer acknowledge women for sex nor for companionship. Some asexual men claim to still want a gf just to cuddle, but that's already a baby-level sex and we are still in the situation of validation (and the gf still wants sex anyway sooner or later) and once they have sex with a girl they love they see sex is not so bad.

Women despise asexuality in women, precisely because women live on sex while their hate of their body for menstruating leads them to take pills which kills their desire for sex (but indeed kills their menstruation). They hate their life since through their own body, they acknowledge in their intimacy that they cannot win on both accounts: either have a comfy life or have an erotic life.

the more women are in control of their pussy, the more they are demanding and the more men are back to being puppies trying to please, which is the natural situaiton in the first place

>> No.11957984

>>11957942
>They are spending money, not making it.
How do you think they get access to that wealth? They either create it or earn it. Lying, whoring and marriage/divorce are not officially labor but it is a way to make money. Women also seem to love their money sexually - there is a direct correlation between number of orgasms and their partner's income.

>> No.11957986

>>11957979
this is the largest amount of projection i have ever witnessed on 4chan and i've been on this site for over a decade.

>> No.11958001

>>11957986
If someone like me - who is always right - projects, do I not fix the world?

>> No.11958003

>>11957979
Correct

>>11957986
Stupid

>> No.11958009

At the end of the day feminists need men more than women. If it succeeds it will still be because men aloud it so.

>> No.11958013

>>11957979
This is why we need a patriarchy. The natural world of nagging is a hell undeserved.

>> No.11958027

>>11957954
>doesn’t know about pig e

>> No.11958028

>>11957961>>11957920>>11957730


>>11957761
it is natural for men like you to crave the validation of their existence and get depressed if they fail to feel relevant, responsible, dutiful.
The best way for a man to cater his need for approval is to serve some woman (and some of her children) through emotional&financial support, which he sees as ''a childish useless submissive woman'' [or whore and he feels betrayed by her]
Men are pleased to contribute to someone else life, to support their family.

Why women are a good way to feel relevant? Because women love to be provided for and each woman will always find a man ready to please her.
[for most men, the best feeling of feeling real is when the girl moans from your cock in her pussy, or for the most impotent, their tongue in the pussy]

THe problem for men is that they are disposable in the eyes of each woman, since all men wish to serve the few women who talk to them.
Men must thus invent several ways to please women, invention and creativity which strengthen their feeling of being worthy, relevant, in touch with reality.
Men are too impotent to find other way to feel real.
Once that the a woman replaces a man by another provider, the man gets very upset and depressed.
THis leads men to think that they are better than women, stronger, smarter and that they must built a life outside women. Some men manage to indeed built an empire, but they will always loose it for some women.
Women give meaning to men and betas, no matter how successful outside women, will always give up everything for some relationship with some woman who claim to fancy them.

>> No.11958032

>>11958013
You’re aware that you don’t need to play the sexual game, right? Even then, there are several people who don’t conform to typical social standards.

>> No.11958043

>>11957301
This image doesn't represent me at all. I'm not like the other plebs on this board!

>> No.11958049

>>11958028
Shut up with you cuck fantasies you faggot.

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>>11958009
Im hesitant to agree with this. Men are much more dependent on women almost to a point where men havnt been necessary for the continuation of our species for several decades. I can agree with the second point but only because there wont be a removal of all males, but with that in mind it cant be a universal.

>> No.11958069

>>11958051
>almost to a point where men havnt been necessary for the continuation of our species for several decades.
How deep is ur uncle's dick inside your ass right now you faggot

>> No.11958094

>>11958069
I meant in the sense that due to sperm banks men are no longer needed for reproduction and so not a necessity for ours species survival. Of course we are getting closer to artificial wombs as well but we arent quite there yet.
From a purely female perspective men arent necessary just convenient. And from a purely feminist perspective they arent even convenient.

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>>11958027
sir pls tell me

>> No.11958120

>>11957301
Men can, but they typically don't want to do it faithfully. They're repulsed by it.

>> No.11958139

>>11958094
Who do you think supplies sperm banks with sperm? This has to be bait.

>> No.11958155

>>11958120
Speaking as a man, I don't understand why.

I personally find the female mindset interesting. That could be because the feminine mind is more exotic to me, but who knows?

Why are men so insecure when it comes to tackling "icky girls stuff"?

>> No.11958156

>>11958139
Men who since donating are no longer needed. The amount of sperm owned globally would be enough for several dozen generations before we even needed to harvest again and by that point the problem of the ovum would be solved. Every man could drop dead this second and our species would easily be able to continue. The only drawback would be massive decrease in workforce but that isnt a male specific thing.

>> No.11958164

>>11957301
This image is retarded. The female mind is more interested in how others percieveit than the male mind on average.

>> No.11958169

>>11957301

lol someone actually saved my picture

>> No.11958172

>>11958094
>men are no longer needed for reproduction and so not a necessity for ours species survival
Men were always of little importance for reproduction. However, women couldn't run a society of women nor uphold technology and agriculture needed for themselves and much less the sperm banks.

I suggest that you feminists breed with feminine men and select against sexual dimorphism.

>> No.11958182

>>11958172
What reasons would you have for thinking this?

>> No.11958184

>>11958156
If every man dropped dead this minute the species would go extinct before the first baby boy could be born.

>> No.11958197

>>11958184
Why?

>> No.11958208

>>11957301
Before asking why, ask if. I don't believe this is true beyond what can be accounted for by gender divergences in big 5 personality traits

>> No.11958213

>>11958208
>big 5 personality traits
nice buzzfeed science anon

>> No.11958223

>>11958182
Women can't even save money despite being given 85% of it. They bicker among themselves for arbitrary reasons and cannot resolve these conflicts. Women are the more base, material sex - men primarily breed through their names and knowledge. History is a man's means to survive. Women are limited to rodent level when it comes to this. The only exception is when women show their capability to sacrifice everything for themselves and their owner - in today's society, feminism.
They are a destructive and corrosive force.

>> No.11958226

>>11958051
I mean thats a more literal approach to what I was saying. Was reffering more to how the power structures are percieved by the feminist.

>> No.11958227

>>11958197
You really believe women would be able to uphold society without men?

>> No.11958228

>>11958197
Starvation takes less than 9 months.

>> No.11958240

>>11958223
What reasons would you have for thinking this? You are saying things you think but not explaining why you think this way.
>>11958226
Ah fair enough. Though depending on the sect of feminism it really only could be taken literally.
>>11958227
Do you have any reason why I really wouldnt?
>>11958228
Youre suggesting women would be incapable of producing food without men? Do you have any reason to think this?
On a similar train of thought though, youre suggesting the almost excessive amount of long lasting food would also disappear with men? I have canned food in my own home that asserts it will last for years right on the label. Not that I think that is any long term solution but what you are suggesting is kind of ludicrous.

>> No.11958263

>>11958184
and that's bad because...?

>> No.11958275

>>11958223
>History is a man's means to survive.
hahahaha nigga then why tf men always be out getting in war and shit fuckin dropping nukes on each other fuckin destroyin wholeass countries lookin ass nigga hahhahah women destructive and corrosive hahahahaha y'all invented hitler and shit my nigga hahahaha fuckin gay ass man ass lovin ass niggaaaaaa

>> No.11958282

>>11958263
edgy

>> No.11958286

>>11958240
>What reasons would you have for thinking this?
The females in our species have abused the power of the womb and turned themselves into leeches in every other field, except the bare minimum needed for genetic and mechanical survival. However, the chief product they leech off of, is a good man. I mean good - productive, creative, ruler, brave, strong, team player, organizer... what have you. Women do not find these qualities worthwhile. Why would they? They are leeches.
Virtue does not describe women. There used to be beauty and grace, but the female has sacrificed even these needs from itself. Women demand that ugly women are seen as beautiful; freeing women of all responsibility, forever.
An organism of this kind is not suitable for life. The woman has become a monster, an obstacle and a heavy burden on our species, by preventing access to the womb if their ludicrous demands aren't met. They are practically robbing civilization of its good qualities on gun-point.

>Youre suggesting women would be incapable of producing food without men?
Ever seen a mosquito produce food? Me neither.

>> No.11958293

>>11958240
Your lack of logic and critical thinking is really worrying but thank you for reaffirming my beliefs.

>> No.11958295

>>11958286
>you ever seen a mosquito produce food?
Women work on farms you know.

>> No.11958297

>>11958275
Men killing each other has very little impact on men's ability to survive through the ages and in the world. It's not a zero-sum game.
Warfare has been the main driving force for technology and virtue. Men who are loyal, creative, brave and competent - or even visionary, are most likely to survive.

>> No.11958301

>>11958295
Yeah accompanied by men that tell them what to do and when to do it.

>> No.11958303

>>11958295
Very few women, and those work less efficiently than most men did. Not enough food unless women start practicing beauty standards and low weight norms.
So, as it requires good qualities, women won't do it. They simply do not have a desire for it.

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>>11957301
>i hope my former english teacher runs into me and sees me reading this
LITERALLY me, but it's my secondary school teacher, and it's only because she had a fat arse and made many sexual innuendos and because I emptied many a load painstakingly stalking her barren social media over the years, I'm actually very much more intelligent than her

>> No.11958311

>>11958297
>Men who are loyal, creative, brave and competent - or even visionary, are most likely to survive.

then why are modern men none of these things

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>ITS ANOTHER CRAZED FEMINISTS FIGHT AGAINST THEIR VERY NATURE THREAD

YIKES
I THINK GOD MADE IT VERY CLEAR IN THE SCRIPTURES
STAY BREADPILLED BROTHERS AND SISTERS

>> No.11958316

>>11958286
This was an interesting read.
>by preventing access to the womb if their ludicrous demands aren't met.
This sentence here was a standout though. The implication here seems to be that if a women does not get what she wants she will not reproduce yes? After following that line of thinking I have to wonder how you came to this conclusion. If a womens standards trully where ludicrous then they couldnt be met, or only be met for so long. If this was the case we would be dwindling as a species would we not? But we are only increasing in number every day.

You further imply that due to your perception of womens active participation in the destruction of the 'good man' that society is declining. And yet we are as advanced as a species as we have ever been. We continue to build monuments to our greatness around the world while we plan on our colonization of other planets. If what you say about women as a sex is true why do I see none of it reflected in society or in us as a species?

Can you give me some examples of where your perspective holds up? Beyond making odd inter-species comparisons.
>>11958293
I am genuinely trying to understand your perspective. I dont mean to be difficult by asking you to defend your points with reasons and examples I only wish to understand you. But by being dismissive in this way I can only assume that task is in fact, too difficult for you to achieve. I dont type this to insult or demean you I type it because I am left somewhat unsatisfied and wish to continue the conversation.

>> No.11958318

>>11958311
Universal suffrage and egalitarianism. 300 years ago the cattle-people revolted and took us back to animal barbarism. Technology allowed for increase in the number of low quality humans.

>> No.11958336

>>11958316
>The implication here seems to be that if a women does not get what she wants she will not reproduce yes?
She has abortion preventing any unwanted birth. They still do give birth, to play the role of single mother (leeching off the state), abusive lesbian parent (vengeance) or to force a man into marriage (=the state of being leeched off).
>But we are only increasing in number every day.
Oh yes. It seems that I did not even consider non-Europeans as human. It really didn't even come to my mind.

>> No.11958339

>>11958316
In what way in hell can you think women would be able to exist without men for longer than a couple of months?

>> No.11958344

>>11958318
what makes you think we ever did or ever will move away from animal barbarism? Humans may have a distinct level of consciousness but we still are and always will be slaves to our biology

>> No.11958353

>>11958316
>we are only increasing in number every day
We? Who do you mean by we? You mean niggers and arabs? The two races that do not allow women to have control over reproduction ?

>> No.11958355

>>11958316
>And yet we are as advanced as a species as we have ever been.
Our technology is, our species is not. Psychology has hindered humans a great deal. In fact, I hope we will have a purely technological heir, as a species.
>We continue to build monuments to our greatness
What are these? Even fiction and video games have to fall in line with the feminist mafia. The ensuing portrayal of women is narcissistic, ahistorical, materialistic, anti-story and nihilistic, like Rey from Star Wars. The industry entities love these qualities because they promote blind consumerism; without history and heritage to tell you what you should do in your life, you are down to psychological impulses; the age of advertisements.

>> No.11958358

>>11958339
Perhaps the species would be incapable of reproducing without men, but women could absolutely survive the rest of their lives without us. Are you really so partial as to believe that women can not look after themselves?

>> No.11958361

>>11958344
>what makes you think we ever did or ever will move away from animal barbarism?
Writing, religion, values, art and architecture.

>> No.11958365

>>11958303
Women have been working in agriculture since pre-industrial times, not because they "desired" to do it, but because they had to in order to survive.

No one "desires" to do intensive manual labour, but they do it anyway. If women could operate under those conditions, why not under modern day conditions where technology has made agriculture significantly easier?

>> No.11958366

>>11958355
>Even fiction and video games have to fall in line with the feminist mafia.

>Making female characters wear practical clothing, have backstories and not all have 32GG tiddies is peak feminism
>you guise
>muh milkiiiiieesss

>> No.11958377

>>11958358
I do not 'believe' women cannot look after themselves, that's just the truth, a fact, there is no 'believing' involved.

>> No.11958378

>>11958361
>implying these things dont all depict or derive from different aspects of human nature

art imitates life, anon.

>> No.11958387

>>11958366
this post was written by a transvestite

>> No.11958388

>>11958336
Ok I think I understand then. Your perspective was never about us as a species but only the select few you deem as worthy of including. Your selective perception would explain your thinking perfectly. If this was the case and you where only ever arguing for specific nations and peoples I have to wonder if you are not mad. When someone speaks on women and men as broad terms for the sexes of our species do you only ever think on the ones most relevant to you? Do you not think in broad terms?
I would argue your perspective prevents you from allowing this conversation to even occur. As an individual you would only be a determinant to broad discussion, why take part in it?
>>11958339
I have seen no reason to think otherwise. And have been given no reason to think otherwise. You state women would not be able to survive without men and I ask why. They do not need men for reproduction and that is all men where necessary for in the past, was it not?
>>11958353
I mean us as a species. Why would you assume that when I say women I only mean one section of women? Where is the implied specification?
>>11958355
We most likely will allow a mechanical animal to inherit the earth, I feel its a real possibility.

I do not consider what you used as examples to be monuments to anything but money. When I say monuments I mean things like the tallest building in the world. I mean great dams and telescopes that allow us to control and see the world around us. I mean impressive and imposing statues and literal monuments to us as a species.
Im sorry if the fiction you prefer, in whatever medium it is formed is not to your liking but I dont see it as comparable. In the case of literature I would argue great works are still being written, despite whatever perception of your species you have.

>> No.11958389

>>11958377
I bet you get angered to the point of tears every time you see a lesbian couple in public

>> No.11958391

>>11958366
>Making female characters wear practical clothing
Not against that. Though I do like to also have ceremonial clothing.
>have backstories
This isn't part of the feminist dogma, as history is automatically evil and masculine. The woman is a blank slate, any and all divergence from there is misogyny. You can have a woman with distinct weight and sexual interests, though.
If anything, practical clothing and backstories, personalities on women are a male fantasy. Potentially even a fetish.
>muh milkiiiiieesss
I prefer thighs and asses.

>> No.11958395

>>11957301
fukcing nonsense women can imagine neither men or women's subjectivity in the slightest, theyre basically emotionally and psychologically retarded.

The overwhelming majority of men are the same way.

Tolstoy or Lermontov are examples of men who could write both men and women.

>> No.11958400

>>11958182
Also, feminists underestimate the raw strength and endurance and willpower needed for things like mining, logging, managing oil rigs, even agriculture and construction.
These kinds of jobs will ruin and wear out a man's body, let alone a female one. Women cannot into the primary industry at all. They are just too weak.
All feminist think about are the cushy office jobs and the research side of things, they forget about the manpower needed to provide the basic things that keep this society propped up.

>> No.11958402

>>11958389
What does that have to do with anything?

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>>11958391
>If anything, practical clothing and backstories, personalities on women are a male fantasy. Potentially even a fetish.

>> No.11958406

>>11958388
>Ok I think I understand then. Your perspective was never about us as a species but only the select few you deem as worthy of including.
No, it most definitely is human as a species. Perhaps I should look for a third world woman who has yet to make her womb a slaughterhouse, or her form a mockery of God's creation.

>> No.11958410

Kind of pointless asking a board of bitter virgins for their opinions on anything related to women. Nonetheless, thread made for a hilarious read.

>> No.11958412

>>11958404
Yes. If you do not understand that about men, you will forever be doomed to see horny teenagers as the male representation.
The industry prefers them, as their hormones make them lose control and spend money.

>> No.11958418

>>11958412
>real women are a male fantasy

>> No.11958424

>>11958388
>You state women would not be able to survive without men and I ask why
I guess if you say 'survive' yeah, sure, they could survive - living in caves and eating cockroaches.

>> No.11958429

>>11957920
>CEOs don't spend money accounts payable officers do

>> No.11958435

>>11957301
This statement is false

>> No.11958437

>>11958418
Yes. The image men force the vermin women to uphold - in am oppressive patriarchy at least. The real woman is hideous monster who bleeds all over, screams away the singing, bloats to inhuman shape and demands to be seen as beautiful. Then they start to invade the perception spheres of men (through men's time killers) and cause disgust. They are terrorists of no real cause.

>> No.11958444

>>11957979
lol what a virgin you are.

>Women love sex and love to desire sex.
t.guy whos never been in a relationship

>> No.11958458

>>11958444
Why is that statement wrong?

>> No.11958473

>>11957688
I don't believe you. Your writing shows insecurity.

>> No.11958478

>>11957979
i find women are incredibly nice to you to the stupider you act. It's like a fucking cheat code to the universe

>> No.11958482

>>11958388
>They do not need men for reproduction and that is all men where necessary for in the past, was it not?
There would be no civilization without men, women alone wouldn't advance beyond the stone age(all scientific advancement has been done by men). They also wouldn't be able to survive during the stone age since they are the weaker sex and ultimately need protection of men from predators etc. meaning women would not be able to survive without men.

>> No.11958483

>>11958358
I'm sure a couple thousand survivalistas, fem-farmers, and relief society presidents could eke out a few miserable decades of canned food and sorrow.

>> No.11958503

>>11958400
All of the work you mentioned uses power tools to work anyway. Im not sure why you think women wouldnt be able to push the same buttons men do. Or in any case modify the tools so they are more suitable to be used by women.
>>11958406
I am no longer sure what you are arguing. It seems like you are still discussing this from a personal perspective.
>>11958424
Why would they not be living in houses eating grown food?
>>11958482
We arent in the stone age and im not convinced we would suddenly lose thousands of years of established technology and knowledge because men no longer existed. Do you have any reason to think differently?

>> No.11958512

>>11958503
>Im not sure why you think women wouldnt be able to push the same buttons men do
you have no fucking clue what being a driller is like m8

>> No.11958521

>>11958458
So you don’t deny being a virgin?

The joke is that all women play hard to get so it’s not that simple, but at the core you are right: all women love sex.

The situation is getting better these days though. With the religious revival you have more women looking for companionship as opposed to flings, and companionship with men who emotionally fulfill them anyway. So it’s time to stop worrying about women who only think about sex, those are the wrong kinds of women and you don’t want to be in a relationship with them anyway

>> No.11958522

>>11958512
As I said, I have no reason to believe that tools could not be changed to allow them to be workable by women. I am under the vague impression the only reason the tools are built for men is because men use them. Is this untrue?

>> No.11958527

>>11958522
We simply don't have the tools to make something like drilling not extremely physically demanding. Automating the procedures would be ludicrously expensive at present.

I'm not the other anon btw and I'm not really having an opinion on whatever gender conflict you're talking about here, but it is a fact that women simply cannot do a lot of the work that goes into making civilziation.

>> No.11958530

>>11958522
Name something that you've physically built.

>> No.11958537

>>11958503
>Im not sure why you think women wouldnt be able to push the same buttons men do
Someone save me..
You never used a driller in your life, have you?
You're some privileged cunt that had the luxury to be born during the easiest times in human history and yet you spew out shit like that out of your rotten mouth. You are clueless, lurk moar.

>> No.11958549

>>11958503
>Why would they not be living in houses eating grown food?
They would destroy houses due to lack of reasoning and grown food would rot since they most likely wouldn't figure out that vegetables need to be watered and animals fed.

>> No.11958558

>>11958527
Then such work would be cut down. I see no evidence suggesting that a female only society would be completely incapable of such work. And would further argue that such work may not even be a necessity.
>>11958530
Not that individuals matter in a discussion on our entire species but beyond doing robotics throughout middle and highschool ive also been with the boy scouts long enough to know how to build several things DIY style. Though I would argue the most difficult thing ive ever 'built' was not physical but in 3d modelling. Again, I dont think any of this is relevant to the conversation but have no issue blogging so long as you remember to subscribe.
>>11958537
I would assert have both been born in the easiest time in human history and further assert that the fact you consider this time easy would suggest women would be able to carry on without men. Again I would argue that just because most women cannot use a large drill does not mean that industry would stop nor does it mean it could not be changed to allow for women to work in it. I ask you openly to disprove this.
>>11958549
Can you explain why you feel this way with modern day examples?

>> No.11958559

>>11958522
Yeah men make tools tough to use so that them filthy womens won't get their hands on them.

>> No.11958563

>>11958549
Women aren't animals. They are still human beings with the ability to make rational decisions.

>> No.11958566

>>11958559
My implication was that if it was suddenly necessary for women to take up that kind of work there are plenty of ways to make it possible with current knowledge but because it is not necessary we dont do it.

>> No.11958572

>>11958503
There's not a woman or machine in the world that could do this. This requires a special breed of individual called a man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqLALzUft8Y

>> No.11958573

>>11958503
>We arent in the stone age
You would go back to the stone age.

>> No.11958574

>>11958503
>I am no longer sure what you are arguing.
I had automatically filtered non-Europeans out of the equation, so I had unintentionally disregarded the portion of mankind that still has the ability to limit women from becoming tyrannical womb-entities and I should look there for a woman who isn't traumatic to look at, who doesn't hate me and doesn't want to steal and rape everything I know and love.
There still are women who have potential not to be mere leeches. This is nothing short of a miracle. Every misogynistic statement still stands, it's just limited. By patriarchies around the world, but still.

>Why would they not be living in houses eating grown food?
House/car/tractor breaks in some manner, what's a woman to do?

>> No.11958579

>>11958558
>I see no evidence suggesting that a female only society would be completely incapable of such work. And would further argue that such work may not even be a necessity.
the computer you are writing on right now couldnt have been made without drilling and mining.

If women are so capable show me a successful company run just by women

>> No.11958580

>>11958563
Prove it

>> No.11958585

>>11958574
>house/car/tractor breaks
There are female mechanics.

>> No.11958586

>>11958580
They can do math

>> No.11958598

>>11958558
>you consider this time easy would suggest women would be able to carry on without men
The reason this time is easy is 100% the achievement of men. You don't think so? If not, why?

>> No.11958602

>>11958585
Not enough. Female only organizations are dysfunctional.

>> No.11958607

The entire women living without men argument is stupid anyway, since it's been scientifically proven that mixed gender groups work better than single gender groups.

>> No.11958617

>>11958586
So can infants.

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>>11958572
Are you suggesting the machinery in this video does not count as a machine in this world?
>>11958573
>im not convinced we would suddenly lose thousands of years of established technology and knowledge because men no longer existed. Do you have any reason to think differently?
>>11958574
Im still not seeing how anything you are saying suggests women could not live without men, especially considering you still refuse to present examples as to why you think the way you do.
>>11958579
You are asking me to prove women could exist without men by using an example where men and women exist. I am asserting that should men stop existing women would take over that work. I assert this because I have been given to evidence to think otherwise. The fact that men have existed does not in of itself, suggest men need to exist.
>>11958598
Because it was not only men that got us to this point. You claim that everything our species has achieved it has done so only because of men but up until this point we would not have existed without women. And now we no longer need men to reproduce. Your suggestion is insane. To say that achievements in medicine, mathematics and and architecture did not include women is to ignore history.
>>11958607
Work better does not imply it would be impossible and so has no basis on the conversation.

>> No.11958623

>>11958607
Men work more efficiently without women in the workplace.

>> No.11958627

>>11958617
Infants are human

>> No.11958629

>>11958620
There is evidence of men being able to run companies alone. There is no such evidence for women.

There are in fact several examples of all-female companies completely tanking.

Women are an absolute cancer in almost all industries.

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men and women aren't all that different really

>> No.11958648

>>11958620
Why do you desire acceptance for the retarded notion that women could survive without men?

>> No.11958659

>>11958620
>Hamilton in 1969, standing next to listings of the software she and her MIT team produced for the Apollo project
>team

>> No.11958662

>>11958458
Mate, literally every dad can tell you that after the first kid women usually stop desiring sex, stop wearing nice clothes and just turn into rando moms who are trying to raise a 2 yr old. It doesn't even require children. Any dude whose been in a relationship more than 3 or 4 years will tell you that they have less sex after the first few years because (mutually) the sexual drive decreases. And it's not because the women are like desiring to fuck black dudes or whatever laughable virgin shit that virgin 4channers come up with.

Women who are not in stable relationships definitely tend to be quite sexually demanding and promiscuous, but this is biologically expected. Once they settle down in any way (which almost everyone does eventually) women lose their sex drives way faster than men. But of course all you virgin 20 yr olds think the entirety of "zomg women are so awful!" literally have the life experience of a fucking apple.

>> No.11958671

>>11958662
I dont want to be the guy to ahve to say this but well here it is: women in sexless relationships look for sex with other men.

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>>11957301

christ, I dont think I've seen a post this intellectually dishonest in a long time

anon, have you ever met a woman? do you speak to them often? are you one?

>> No.11958679

>>11957336
Ok but what's ur chromosomes lol

>> No.11958680

>>11958627
Infanticide is frequently practiced by simian females. The number of abortions in 30 years has surpassed the number of people killed in war across all time.

>> No.11958681

>>11958662
The guy implied women don't like sex and that they don't desire it, which is wrong. There was no talk of marrying or having kids

>> No.11958700

>>11958680
What the fuck are you on about? You’re saying women aren’t human beings and I’m telling you that you’re wrong. I don’t give a shit about dead babies

>> No.11958719

>>11958629
It hasnt needed to be any different. I see no evidence to suggest that it could not change.
>>11958648
I enjoy the conversation. It has nothing to do with acceptance and I expect to change no ones opinions.
>>11958659
Right, a fine example of men and women contributing to something monumental.

>> No.11958722

>>11958680
my theory is that women practice abortion and infanticide because they sense that the male isn,t sufficiently superior.

Or rather that they might be able to find a better male. The male might be a lot better than her objectively speaking, but women today have a veritable plethora of dick available to them, and basically no social repercussions for acting on their Hydraic lust, so they can maintain themselves in a state of constant equilibrium, passing over and aborting the children of men they will be incapable of attracting when theyre 30.

This is why you have women aborting the children of actual genetic elite men, their 22 year old brain tells them 'not yet, we can find a better one, cant be saddled with this inferior babby'

>> No.11958723

>>11958620
Why do you demand examples to disprove your fictitious claims whereas you yourself haven't given any examples to support them?

>> No.11958737

>>11958700
>You’re saying women aren’t human beings and I’m telling you that you’re wrong. I don’t give a shit about dead babies
Human is defined by a sense of morality. The woman approaches dead babies like an ape female would, not like a mother, father or, you know, a human.
If AI proves to be a dud, I want cephalopods to inherit the earth.

>> No.11958739

>>11958719
>Right, a fine example of men and women contributing to something monumental.
A fine example of women not being able to do anything without the guidance of men therefore not being able to continue existing without them, as you claim otherwise.

>> No.11958743

>>11958723
I think asking and demanding are different things I dont mean to be putting pressure where it should not be put.
I dont feel I need to show examples of women being capable of living on their own as that is self-evident. My claims are not fictitious.

>> No.11958748

>>11958722
>my theory is that women practice abortion and infanticide because they sense that the male isn,t sufficiently superior.
Your theory is bogus because women practice it opportunistically, not through goals.
>Does this make me look bad (gasp!) in the eyes of the society?
>Men will lose interest in me now! How can I con them from their money now?
These are the only relevant factors. It's the same for the simians.

>> No.11958750

>>11958743
>I dont feel I need to show examples of women being capable of living on their own as that is self-evident.
It's really not though, and you do have to show evidence.

Men have frequently in history traveled across the world and established colonies. Women have literally never done this

>> No.11958758

>>11958719
>There are in fact several examples of all-female companies completely tanking.
>It hasnt needed to be any different. I see no evidence to suggest that it could not change
>several examples of all-female companies completely tanking.
Do you have a tumor?
>I see no evidence to suggest that it could not change
Yeah, maybe over a couple of thousand years of evolution. Enough time for the species to go extinct.

>> No.11958759

>>11958748
idk m8. Women seem to make decisions based on emotional states they have a hard time even understanding or expressing. I don't think it is purely social standards, for example women being attracted to hyper-violent men is a well known phenomenon. Even men that society universally reviles, like school shooters.

>> No.11958768

>>11958743
Well I don't need to show examples of women not being able to exist on their as that is self-evident. We're not going to get anywhere.

>> No.11958777

>>11958768
on their own*

>> No.11958781

>>11958768
when you start saying things are 'self-evident' and that you don,t need to provide examples...you are engaging in religious thinking, it's just dogma at that point

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>>11958739
It was more to disprove the notion men where the only contributors. I do not think it is necessary to say much else considering women have not needed to live on their own. My assertion is they could if they needed to and I see no reason to think otherwise.
>>11958750
The fact you are unaware of any examples does not mean examples do not exist. In future it is more conducive to conversation to ask for an example then to aggressively assert there are no examples.
>>11958758
These examples are from a world that includes men, you dont think that is relevant? In what way do these examples compare to a world without men?
>>11958768
Alright, im not forcing you to have the conversation if you dont want to.

>> No.11958786

>>11958759
That's the outcome of the female having an easier time. They have had less evolutionary change due to the value of the womb. So they maintain the animal desires to a larger extent than men do. Or rather, of previous animal stages. We never stopped being animals, we evolved into better ones. Called men.

>> No.11958792

>>11958782
are you going to give an example or what? when have women established a colony without men?

>> No.11958801

>>11958781
Read the post I'm responding to.

>> No.11958806

>>11958792
Neither sex has because neither has needed to. I am suggesting that it is possible for women to do so if men should stop existing, while it is not possible for men due to biological limitation.

>> No.11958817

>>11958806
men have absolutely established colonies without women. the women come afterward when things are basically set up

>> No.11958827

>>11958806
People as retarded and as oblivious as you shouldn't be allowed to share their opinions.

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Just wanted to point something out
Men are stronger than women, so much stronger that they're not even really comparable. Not only is the average man stronger than the average women, but an average man is stronger than ALL women.
So, even if women and men are intellectual equals (they're not) and even if women and men have equal motivations and ambitions (they don't) men will always be the superior sex just because of their sheer physcical prowess.