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The Drakengard 3 of literature

>> No.11931354

I don't know what Drakengard 3 is, but I just finished Urth of the New Sun and I have to say it slapped.

>> No.11931362
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>>11931341
I do get yoko taro vibes from gene wolfe.

>> No.11931372

all right, I ordered it you win

>> No.11931442

>>11931362
A shame that automata was pure normalfag garbage

>> No.11931460

>>11931354
...actually, assuming it's vidya, it's true that while reading it I did repeatedly think of vidya. Something about the wacky adventures, episodic structure, improbably recurring characters and constant getting out of deadly dangers. Plus Severian clearly levelled up a lot.

>> No.11931544

ive constantly heard good things about this book but i'm wondering on a scale of 1-10 how big is the main character a self-insert?

>> No.11931550

>>11931442
Literally the best one. And I say that as someone with strong nostalgia for drakengard and nier. Shit ending though

>> No.11931555

>>11931442
Agreed. It was the worst of any of his games.

>> No.11931562

>>11931544
What? The author is like 90 years old. And the main character is a dofus

>> No.11931567

>>11931544
He raped his sister, jolenta

>> No.11931580

>>11931544
Hard to say, but I didn't get that impression from it at all. Admittedly Severian's adventures do seem to involve an improbable amount of sex, though it's not described in any detail.

>> No.11931641

>>11931580
Well severian tells the story, and he's pretty narcissistic.

>> No.11931674

>>11931641
Hard to blame him, by the end he's a pretty big deal

>> No.11931757

>>11931372
You'll have a Wolfe of a time.

>> No.11932943

>>11931544
"Shadow of the Torturer" sounds like some edgy garbage and the fact that it's genre fiction just makes it worse
But it's not that, it's actually a good book (in my opinion :^)))
Wolfe is an engineer and Korean war vet not a neckbeard writing about how he's dark and mysterious stabbing all the dragons

>> No.11932989

>>11931442
I thought it was structured fine. Why did you think this?

>> No.11933449

>>11932943
He is a manchild yo

>> No.11933455

>>11931757
I am actually reading fifth head of Cerberus right now, I think I am hooked on him

>> No.11933502
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>> No.11934891

>>11933502
Seems a bit broad for Sev

>> No.11935303

>>11931544
Literally 0. The author looks like the Pringle’s man because he invented the machine. The main character is basically jesus

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>>11931544
Forgot image

>> No.11935395

>>11935307
Wait did he really invent the machine that makes Pringles?

>> No.11935445

>>11935395
Yeah, the pringle man is actually based on him too.

>> No.11936183

>>11933502
is that the die cis scum woman

>> No.11936188

I'm genuinely interested in hearing if you all have any books with a Drakengardish vibe.

>> No.11936213

What are some other top-tier fantasies. DOn't have to have perfect prose or whatever, just stuff that's fertile for the blossoming of the imagination, rather than formulaic d&d drivel or some diarrhoeal saga that's as long as in search for lost time.
so far I have:
>BotnS
>Gormenghast (haven't read it yet)
>used to like the elric books but now i hit my head on the writing style
>lord of the rings
i love fantasy vibes but i can almost never get into a work of fantasy anymore, bit sad really.

>> No.11936296

>>11936213

I'm kind of sad that Gormenghast is being handled by Gaiman for TV. I think it would've made a PERFECT Lynch movie who could've captured how batshit insane the residents were since it all seemed like they had some sort of deep psychological issue that was affecting them. I'm reading American Gods and it is the first time I'm reading Gaiman but I think his style is too quirky for it.

>> No.11936810

>>11931757
I get it.

>> No.11936924

>>11936296
Gaiman thought lucifer tv show was good

>> No.11936948

>>11931341
Why are the SF Masterworks covers all so ugly?

>> No.11937001

>>11936924
I have only seen trailers for it on amazon and it looks like total fucking garbage, I will never watch it
Don't like Gaiman more like Gayman

>> No.11937065

>>11931442
Imagine being such a contrarian you didn’t like automata

>> No.11937070

>>11936948
I forgive them because the binding is quite decent for genre fiction.

>> No.11937306

>>11936213
>just stuff that's fertile for the blossoming of the imagination, rather than formulaic d&d drivel or some diarrhoeal saga that's as long as in search for lost time
Earthsea! Though it's technically children's lit and might come across that way

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>>11935445
He didn't always have the mustache, though.

>> No.11938565

>>11931442
Oh boy here comes anon with his hot contrarian opinion. It's popular and has a nice ass, now I hate it.

>> No.11938583

>but his most famous professional engineering achievement is a contribution to the machine used to make Pringles potato chips.[9]
I thought you fags were joking holy cow.

>> No.11938616

>>11931442
wow a sane man in a /lit/ thread hell must've frozen over

>> No.11938652

Are the Dying Earth novels well written? I got the omnibus edition, because I know BotNS was inspired by them.

>> No.11938678

>>11938652
They're excellent

>> No.11938751

>>11938583
And now people Wolfe them down

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>>11936188
Taro says Hybrid Child by Mariko Ohara was a formative book for him. There might be something there.

>> No.11939026

>>11931442
This. Automata is his weakest game.

>> No.11939028

>>11939026
Only if you're low iq.

>> No.11939032

>>11936213
The Worm Ouroboros

>> No.11939035

What is the Drakengard 1 of literature?

>> No.11939036

>>11931341
>"Science fantasy"
>0% science
>0% imagination
>100% shit

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>>11936948
what do you mean this is a masterpiece

>> No.11939134

>>11939035
Blood meridian

>> No.11939135

>>11939125
If I didn't already know who Gene Wolfe was I wouldn't touch that book with a 100ft pole.

It's amazing that they even stay in business with covers that shit.

>> No.11939258

>>11939035
Idk, but The Garden of Earthly Delights is the painting equivalent

>> No.11939276

>>11939125
A E S T H E T H I C

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>>11936948
they're mostly good to great

>> No.11939672

>>11931544
Severian may be the least self-insert first-person narrator in the history of literature.

>> No.11939677

>>11938652
If you've got the omnibus edition: the first, "Dying Earth" tales are pulpish and somewhat amateurish. Feel free to go straight to Eyes of the Overworld if you don't like it.

>> No.11939730

>>11939134
this desu

>> No.11940450

>>11938751
Man fuck you

>> No.11940873

>>11939677
To be fair they were some of his earliest stories. Still fun to read, however.

>> No.11941449

>>11931341

Wolfe is awful. He's built up as the "Melville of SF writers." Don't buy the hype. The books might be better than most genre shit, but it's still genre - and still shit.

>> No.11942049

>>11941449
t. Brainlet

>> No.11942108

>>11941449
>t. American midwit terrified of making his own judgements

Really, why the inane dismissal of "genre" fiction from Americans? It won't make the Euros like you, nothing will.

>> No.11942117

>>11942108
What do Euros like?

>> No.11942137

>>11931442
all of his games are
they're for normalfags who don't think they are normalfags