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>Hen 1:1
>In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth
Atheists BTFO!

>> No.11825825

>Hen
Gen*
fucking autocorrect

>> No.11825860
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>>11825819
>>11825825

>> No.11825874

>>11825819
>Hen 1:1
>Cluck

>> No.11825881

unironically a better explanation than "gravity created the stars and the planets" or whatever it is atheists say these days

>> No.11825949

>>11825881
Actually it's the processes of nuclear fission and fusion.

>> No.11826002

>>11825881
You're American, aren't you?

>> No.11826013

>>11826002
>>11825949
>big bang disproves God

>> No.11826022

>>11825874
Nice

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>>11825819
>Hen 1:1

>> No.11826684

>>11825881
This

>> No.11826736

>>11826013
If the big bang happened then it clearly would have caused God's existence
God doesn't exist if there's no unmoved mover

>> No.11826746

>>11826736
God exists outside of time, he is eternal.

He is the mover, he is the one who gave form for the Big Bang,

>> No.11826755

>>11826746
The Big Bang is by definition the source of all matter and energy and space in the universe.

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Just because someone wrote it down doesn’t make it true. Non of the Greek myths are true and the were written way past the Bible. Hell if I write “the pope is a faggot” on a piece of paper he’s not suddenly going to take it up the bum.

>> No.11826773

>>11826762
>The Bible
written by God
>Greek myths
written by stoned Turks living in glorified caves on shitty Mediterranean rocks

>> No.11826802

>>11826755
God is not of the matter, and energy that takes place in the Universe.

He is a transcendent Sovereign being.

>> No.11826815

>>11826802
So he has no connection to the universe?

>> No.11826816

>>11826773
Turks aren't native to the mediterranean. They're from central Asia
Why is literally every post in this thread a shitpost

>> No.11826821

>>11826816
Actually all humans are descended from Africans.

>> No.11826824

>>11826815
What? No.
The Bible shows that he intervenes on his free will.
He's Sovereign.

>> No.11826826

>>11826815
He doesn’t and he does.

God is everything and nothing, The Aristotleian unity

>> No.11826831

>>11826824
What the fuck does that mean? How about you define your terms?
>>11826826
>contradiction
>contradiction
>appeal to authority
>undefined concept
Oh boy

>> No.11826848

>>11826831
You can be everything and the smallest part of something at the same time.

This is how Aristotleian Metaphysics works. Please read Metaphysics before criticizing this system again

>> No.11826850

>>11826831
>What the fuck does that mean? How about you define your terms?
It's literally defined in the Bible.
God is a BEING that is ETERNAL
ALL CREATION is by HIM.

Do you even know the language that you use?

>> No.11826857

>>11826848
>appeal to authority
>contradiction
>>11826850
But we already know, scientifically, that the Big Bang created matter, energy, and space.

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>>11825819

>> No.11826871

>>11826857
>But we already know, scientifically, that the Big Bang created matter, energy, and space.
And... We know God is not OF that substance.

He TRANSCENDS those qualities. He is eternal, our universe is NOT. PROVEN by the big bang.

>> No.11826884

>>11826871
We don't know that, you're just asserting it

>> No.11826897

>>11826884
That's literally the entire idea of the Christian God, anon.
So no, I'm not asserting it, I'm using THOUSANDS of years of scholarly backings to support my claims.

>> No.11826909

>>11826897
Capitalizing words doesn't make you more right
>appeal to authority
>it's even an authority that can only refer to itself to support its own claims
next you'll quote Spinoza or Aquinas or something

>> No.11826917

>>11826857
>not having read Metaphysics
>trolling or being stupid

>> No.11826925

>>11826897
not them, but it should be obvious that THOUSANDS of years of scholarly backing on anything doesn't make it valid. you seem to think it's valid, so I'll ask: as far as the claims being true, were they any less true before the THOUSANDS of years of scholarly backings? obviously you should know where this is going. in short, the number of people who support x doesn't affect the validity or "true-ness" of the claim, so bringing it up is a cheap and ultimately moot tactic.

>> No.11826929

>>11826909
>>it's even an authority that can only refer to itself to support its own claims
What? You realize there are seperate entities in the Church that embody the same idea's right?
You're denying generations of some of the Smartest people to exist simply because you're scared of 'authority'?
Realize the only Authority that takes place in Christian Faith is the Bible.

>> No.11826936

>>11826925
That's completely not my point and I feel bad that that's what you think I was pointing to.

He's saying I'm making a insertion by my own accord, I'm refuting that its of my own accord.

You can't have it both ways.

>> No.11826952

>>11826929
It's all one tradition, you nonce
>>11826936
Are you trolling or retarded? Or just plain foreign? Are you a Brazilian Protestant who learned English from Veggie Tales?

>> No.11826973

>>11826952
>It's all one tradition, you nonce
Obviously not. Catholics and Reformed, and Methodists all have very different traditions.

You have literally no idea what you talk about, and it's a laughable idea that you think you're actually putting up an argument.

>> No.11826980

>>11826973
Moron

>> No.11826981

>>11826980
Nice.

>> No.11826993

Amazing... one consistent retard is all it takes for 40+ replies.

>> No.11826995

>God is immaterial

This is a meaningless statement these days. "Matter" in contemporary science means any kind of entity that we can observe in any way, including energy and forces. If we're supposed to believe that whatever form God occupies doesn't affect any observable/change in the universe, while apparently also being an omnipotent person with feelings of love, it's a shitty theory.

>> No.11826996

>>11826993
What are you implying here anon?

>> No.11827000

>>11826995
I implore you to understand the term transcendental and what it implies about God.

>> No.11827180

>>11826773
This. Seriously Mediterranean rocks are the shittiest rocks I've ever seen. Dumb fucking rock. I hate 'em.

>> No.11827186

>>11827180
Peter is p cool tho

>> No.11827196

>>11827186
Yeah he was a good guy.

>> No.11827203

These turd flinging contests do nothing for this board. I implore all of you to take a neutral position on this issue like or contain it to one thread.

>> No.11827207

>>11827203
The apathetic are the cancer killing society

>> No.11827245

>>11826857
>we already know, scientifically
Science doesn't let you know anything. No knowledge can be derived by science.

>> No.11827251

>>11827245
>speed of light
>atomic weight

>> No.11827258

>>11827251
Sure, if you believe that. It's all a confidence game.

>> No.11827262

>>11826678
You’re cute anon

>> No.11827270

>>11826773
>bible
Written by Bronze Age warlords and had wrk over a hundred human authors

>> No.11827277

>>11827258
The argument here is that God designed the universe with those constants in mind. Cmon you guys.

Read Book II/III of Rousseau’s Emile

>> No.11827289

>>11827277
Rousseau is pig disgusting
I spit on Franko-Swiss pigdogs
go back to Geneva, faggot

>> No.11827392

Which Bible should I buy, /lit/?

Catholic here.

>> No.11827403

>>11827392
The Chicken Bible

>> No.11827436

>>11825881
except one is rooted in the scientific method and the other one was pulled out of someone's filthy arse.

>> No.11827451

>>11826802
>God is not of the matter, and energy that takes place in the Universe.
So in other words God doesn't exist.

>> No.11827491

>>11826857
>being uneducated on a basic concept on purpose so you can blow shit out you're ass for the sole purpose of being a contrarian
I'd assume you were trolling, but you are just retarded.

>> No.11827522

>>11826013
You can say both
They don't contradict each other nerd