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Thoughts on this book?

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>> No.11800057

The Great Mirror of Male Love is the best book about samurai desu

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>>11800023
>Thoughts on this book?

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>>11800047
>>11800035
I love these. Got any more?

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>> No.11800251

>>11800023
read that bushido was more or less a late 19th century invention by jap writers wanting to portray samurai in romantic light and in keeping with western chivalric ideals, to make jap more appealing to the western countries they were trying to emulate at that time

>> No.11800380

Read Hagakure or Book of five rings instead. I also found The Book of Tea a very comfy read, back when i was severely afflicted by the Weaflu

>> No.11800468

>>11800251
This?
https://www.tofugu.com/japan/bushido/

>> No.11800476

>>11800251
"Bushido" as it came to be known around the 19th century was not a concept known to any of the samurai in the tradition they are invoking. It is a product of peace-time samurai trying to justify their place in the social hierarchy when there were a lot of forces moving to abolish the rigid class distinctions for samurai families (as eventually happened in the Meiji restoration), That's not to say, though, that Bushido is totally bullshit, but it wasn't a clearly defined thing in the way that books like Shogun want you think it was.

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>>11800251
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>>11800468
Read it;
/thread

>> No.11800682

>>11800537
yes

>> No.11800790

>>11800537
great film. have you watched the human condition trilogy?

>> No.11800986

>>11800380
Reminder that Hagakure and Bushido in general a myth/quixotic fantasy. The things he wrote about in the book are the musings of a peace time idealistic pseudo Samurai. During Sengoku, the period he spent jacking off too, these "honorable" warriors of yesteryear spent their time filled with so much dishonorabu acts he would have had an aneurysm.

"We suffered casualties, our forces withered to nothing, and we fled." - Tsuchimochi Nobuhide a 14th century Daimyo who thought it was better to run away so he could later protect his lands. Not face death head on. This was common too and usually forum similar motivations.

In The Battle of Sekigahara Tokugawa Ieyasu won a decisive victory over Ishida Mitsunari. Did he do it on sure honor in accordance with Bushido? No. Decisively no. Only when the "dishonorable", "disloyal" and "cowardly" Kobayakawa Hideaki switched sides and help btfo out his former allies did they win. This is rampant throughout Japanese military history.

And for further proof of his removal from the Samurai he idealized so much compare his emphasis of the sword vs what the Samurai mostly used and one of them actually had a more "spiritual " aspect (archery) that tsunemoto just sort of forgets.

Can you imagine a world in where the basis of the warrior code was written by Don Quixote? Because this is all the hagakure is, a reader of idealized legends and his depression that things suck now.

>> No.11801685

>>11800035
cool sword

>> No.11802030

>>11800986
>Can you imagine a world in where the basis of the warrior code was written by Don Quixote?
Sounds fun actually