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[Anonymous No.11760255]

/lit/, am i wrong?

>mustache man claiming buddhism is life affirming
>buddhism is literally the metaphysical blue whale challenge if you believe it
>meanwhile in jainism your soul is a separate, immortal substance
>upon liberation you achieve literal godhood powers
>nietzsche picked the wrong ascetic indian religion to call life affirming
>but of course the mustache would pick indian suicide religion, he denied his own ego was real
>he read schopenhauer rather than hegel, probably never really studied fichte
>fichte proved the existence of a self-consciousness more primitive and direct than consciousness directed at objects, because the concept of the "I" cant be explained otherwise
>this self-consciousness is even more primitive than reflexive object-consciousness, where the subject takes itself for its own object, but still as object
>analytics like john perry and david lewis struggling to understand de se attitudes and essential indexicals
>but every relation possible in a materialist ontology has to be subject-object type, the self which says "I" cannot reduce to that, the concept of "I" becomes impossible
>the very idea of a paradoxical subject-object unity as fichte calls it only works if you accept dialetheism like the german idealists
>thats not halal for the usual materialists
>so materialism is wrong
>buddhism is also wrong
>nietzsche also

arent they just literal meme ideologies anyway?

[Anonymous No.11760264]

>>11760255
Wow, did you even read what he said about buddhism? He scorned it as a negative and life-denying system on par with Christianity.

[Anonymous No.11760266]

>>11760255
thanks for making a bad thread and outting yourself as a brainlet

[Anonymous No.11760288]

>>11760255
What's life affirming about nihilism?

[Anonymous No.11761187]

>>11760255
>am i wrong?
no you're right on the mark brother keep it up

[Anonymous No.11761290]

>>11760264
he was a nazi. he loved buddhism cause it came from the aryans

[Anonymous No.11761469]

>>11760264
Not "on par" with Christianity; he considered it more hygienic and honest than Christianity. But just as nihilistic, yes.

[Anonymous No.11762361]

>>11761290
>he was a nazi
"no"

[Anonymous No.11762893]

>>11761290
>Nazi
You don't know what that word means. Stop using it.

[Anonymous No.11762913]

>>11760264
Not quite.

He regarded Christianity as death-affirming because it says that this life doesn’t really matter, the important life is the afterworld.

He regarded Buddhism as death-affirming because it teaches that this life doesn’t matter because it’s suffering. His opinion of Buddhism was higher because he considered that at least it was free of resentiment and had fewer metaphysical crutches, unlike Christianity.

[Anonymous No.11763397]

>>11760255
bump

[Anonymous No.11763704]

>>11762361
>>11762893
>Let us consider the other method for “improving” mankind, the method of breeding a particular race or type of man. The most magnificent example of this is furnished by Indian [Aryan] morality, sanctioned as religion in the form of “the law of Manu.” Here the objective is to breed no less than four races within the same society: one priestly, one warlike, one for trade and agriculture, and finally a race of servants, the Sudras. Obviously, we are no longer dealing with animal tamers: a man that is a hundred times milder and more reasonable is the only one who could even conceive such a plan of breeding. One breathes a sigh of relief at leaving the Christian atmosphere of disease and dungeons for this healthier, higher, and wider world. How wretched is the New Testament compared to Manu, how foul it smells!

>Yet this method also found it necessary to be terrible—not in the struggle against beasts, but against their equivalent—the ill-bred man, the mongrel man, the chandala. And again the breeder had no other means to fight against this large group of mongrel men than by making them sick and weak. Perhaps there is nothing that goes against our feelings more than these protective measures of Indian [Aryan] morality.

>These regulations are instructive enough: we encounter Aryan humanity at its purest and most primordial; we learn that the concept of “pure blood” is very far from being a harmless concept. On the other hand, it becomes obvious in which people the chandala hatred against this Aryan “humaneness” has become a religion, eternalized itself, and become genius—primarily in the Gospels, even more so in the Book of Enoch. Christianity, sprung from Jewish roots and comprehensible only as a growth on this soil, represents the counter-movement to any morality of breeding, of race, privilege: it is the anti-Aryan religion par excellence. Christianity—the revaluation of all Aryan values, the victory of chandala values, the gospel preached to the poor and base, the general revolt of all the downtrodden, the wretched, the failures, the less favored, against “race”: the undying chandala hatred is disguised as a religion of love.

[Anonymous No.11764189]

>>11763704
>The concept of the Aryan is exclusively a Nazi idea
>Praising the caste system and the concept of good breeding is exclusively found in Nazism
>Criticism of the Jewish roots of Christianity is exclusively found in Nazism

Do you know how I know you don't know what you're talking about?

[Anonymous No.11764266]

>>11764189
Don't see a problem with any of those assertions. Maybe read a book.

[Anonymous No.11764375]

>>11760255
yes you are wrong

[Anonymous No.11764474]

>>11761290
nice one

[Anonymous No.11764512]

>>11764266
>"hurr reada book"
lmao

None of those things are exclusive to Nazism. You're the one who should read a book, faggot

[Anonymous No.11764856]

>>11764512
Whatever you say, buddy.

[Anonymous No.11765084]

>discussion focusing on just nietzsche
>mfw

[Anonymous No.11765273]

>>11764266
I've read a few, including some about these Nazis you seem so afraid of. The Nazis definitely saw inspiration in Nietzsche, but Nietzsche himself was not a Nazi. His works being inspirational to one (of many) movement(s) 35 years after he died doesn't make him a Nazi, in fact he would have no possible way of being a Nazi given that they didn't fucking exist yet.

I know this is going to be hard for someone in this Marxist shit-hole to understand, but not everyone who disagrees with your dildolec church of no salvation is a Nazi (though more reasonable people will be if you continue to push them that way).

[Anonymous No.11765304]

neetchan changes his mind in every buch, probably depending on what the women he chased after like a dog told him. What a faggot lol

[Anonymous No.11765316]

>>11765304
Owo

[Anonymous No.11765325]

>>11760255
Of course you're wrong, you came to lit of all places and expected/wanted an honest to god answer. My advice: fucking put a bullet between your eyes and anyone else who takes anything seriously

[Anonymous No.11765648]

why cant we kill nietzscheans openly since they will have no moral recourse that can explain why we ought not to?

[Anonymous No.11765691]

>>11765304
wtf am i looking at here

[Anonymous No.11765959]

>>11765648
Do you really think that Nietzsche advocates for a society without moral order? Are you that small brained?

[Anonymous No.11766002]

>>11765959
>literally a self-described amoralist

[Anonymous No.11766028]

>>11761290
in his letter to Frederick Engels, Marx described Ferdinand Lassalle, in the following way:

>The Jewish Nigger Lassalle ... fortunately departs at the end of this week ... It is now absolutely clear to me that, as both the shape of his head and his hair texture shows – he descends from the Negros who joined Moses’ flight from Egypt (unless his mother or grandmother on the paternal side hybridized with a nigger). Now this combination of Germanness and Jewishness with a primarily Negro substance creates a strange product. The pushiness of the fellow is also nigger-like.


was marx also a nazi?

[Anonymous No.11766146]

>>11766002
Literally Twilight of the Idols was primarily satire. He literally called it the equivalent of a philosophical fart, let out as a relief after holding it in for so long he thought it was going to burst. If you didn't see the humor in Twilight of the Idols, you need to stop reading and take up gardening.

[Anonymous No.11766344]

>>11766028
Yes he was. He drew from Hegel.

[Anonymous No.11766357]

>>11760255
this board is really really bad now

[Anonymous No.11766710]

>>11766146
So he was just pretending to be retarded

[Anonymous No.11766866]

>>11766002
Doesn't mean he fails to see the utility of serving brainlet ideologies to keep brainlets in check.

[Anonymous No.11766911]

>>11760288
How isn't it?

[Anonymous No.11767029]

>>11766710
Sometimes it is fun to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.11767055]

>>11761290
>Nietzsche was a nazi

Anachronisms work better if you are aware you are doing them, and they’re done cleverly.

[Anonymous No.11767134]

>>11760255
>this self-consciousness is even more primitive than reflexive object-consciousness, where the subject takes itself for its own object, but still as object

Have you ever meditated? Self reflective consciousness is literally nothing, in line with the Buddhist notion of sunyata.

[Anonymous No.11767204]

>>11767134
meditation is central to jainism as well, but they don't seem to think what the buddhists do about the self.

is meditation really enough?

[Anonymous No.11767216]

>>11766028
>leftism=nazism
mfw ameriburgers were right all along