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"Work is modern day slavery"

>> No.11753381

>>11753368
Where's the lie

>> No.11753418

>>11753368
al-bassado and al-redpillado

>> No.11753419

>>11753368
Work is work. The slavery comes from the debts society coerces you into taking, and the constant and unending costs society uses to keep you from paying back your debts.

>> No.11753452

Gathering fruits and hunting deer is a primitive slavery.

>> No.11753456

>>11753368
base et rougepillule

>> No.11753478

>responsibility is slavery
I bet you say any attempt to change you mind is brainwashing too

>> No.11753486

honestly i cant even pretend i dont agree. ive never kept a job longer than 6 months. everytime i get a new job i lie to myself

"i actually enjoy this, working isnt as bad as i thought, this is fine"

then 2 months later i cant continue pretending. i just simply cannot do something for an extended period if its not of interest to me

ill work again but until retirement? im sure i can figure out a way to opt out of wage slavery. being australian also helps because i get like $660 a fortnight for doing nothing

>> No.11753499

he's basically right. modern wage labor is basically indistinguishable from what slavery meant for most of history (slavery wasn't always of the brutal american slave trade variety). what's the lesson to be learned from this? is wage labor le ebil slavery that must be abolished? no, what this shows is that slavery is, as aristotle points out, necessary for society to function at all, and a society without slave labor is not possible. you can't have civilization without slaves. all we can do is endeavor to make their conditions more or less decent, but to ablosih slavery altogether is unthinkable

>> No.11753507

He works as an options trader and part time professor though.

>> No.11753519

>>11753486
>i just simply cannot do something for an extended period if its not of interest to me
do you think the neanderthal chased game for 7 hours a day because it interested him? grow the fuck up dude

>> No.11753542

>>11753519
why would a neandarthal be anyones role model?

>> No.11753548
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>>11753519

>> No.11753556

>>11753519
yeah, you honestly think they didn't enjoy that?

>> No.11753560

>>11753368

Taleb, famous only for whining about unknown probabilities, saying that the thing that reduces uncertainty the most - a steady salary - is slavery.

Does the Emperor with no clothes suggest a constitutional amendment to ban work.

>> No.11753569

total biscuit has really let himself go

>> No.11753614

>>11753368
Academics are so desperate to say new shit that they're mining far-leftist writings from 50 years ago.
http://www.primitivism.com/abolition.htm

>> No.11753619

>>11753519
>hunting and killing all day long isn't fun
soi

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>>11753478
>works 70 hours per week
>it's just being responsible bro

>> No.11753624

>>11753519
>peaches come from a can
>that's what makes me a man

>> No.11753637

>>11753621
animals are rapists

>> No.11753646

>>11753637
yeah, but that's fairly normal for animals. it's not a big deal tbqh, don't make a thing out of it

>> No.11753663
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11753663

>What the fuck my boss who manages this business and organizes the sale of the product I create takes a cut of the profit? This is theft!

>> No.11753670

>>11753663
It's not theft, but it's slavery, and that isn't a bad thing (as long as you treat your slaves decently).

>> No.11753673

>>11753614
>50 years ago
Marx was memeing about Wage Slavery in the mid 1800s.

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11753674

Imagine actually thinking this.

>> No.11753676

>>11753368
Brb working all day to earn the kind of money that barely pays the bills without even having a snowballs chance in hell of ever accumulating enough money to buy any property. Tbh i just work, use copious amounts of alcohol to cope and jack off at the end of the day. Im literally socially invisible and if i suddenly didnt wake up one day that wouldnt be bad at all.

>> No.11753679

>>11753670
It's not slavery. Your boss isn't the one forcing you to work for him.

>> No.11753680

>>11753676
Im 28 btw if youre young enough please use this as cautionary tale. Focus on building a career where you will have disposable income and free time.

>> No.11753684

>>11753614
https://www.marxists.org/archive/camatte/agdom.htm

fortunately enough he hasn't encountered Camatte yet

>> No.11753691

>>11753478
Nice spook fag

>> No.11753696

>>11753419
???

>> No.11753709

>>11753499
this. civilization doesn’t function without some form of oppression. it’s strange most people refuse to see this

>> No.11753712

>>11753673
Yeah, but he wasn't critiquing work. He wanted more of it.

>> No.11753717
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11753717

slavery is modern day work

>> No.11753727

>>11753663
Bosses are superfluous and yet they earn the most. Hmm...

>> No.11753728

>>11753709
they refuse to see this because they've had it hammered into them that slavery/oppression is bad, and if they acknowledged that their society is based on oppression they would feel obligated to end that oppression, but if they ended that oppression society would collapse and buh bye to all their nice shiny toys, no more nice things. so they're forced into cognitive dissonance. the sensible response is just to acknowledge that oppression is necessary for the good life, and that we should just strive to make it a decent and fair form of oppression

>> No.11753730

People with a lot of capital take all the risk so they should get all the reward

>> No.11753731

>>11753419
>The slavery comes from the debts society coerces you into taking, and the constant and unending costs society uses to keep you from paying back your debts.
So work is slavery?

>> No.11753734

>>11753727
>superfluous
Okay, go ahead and start flipping burgers in your backyard instead and see how much of them you can sell

>> No.11753735

>>11753478
>This is your brain on wagecuck propaganda

>> No.11753737

>>11753730
If you have a lot of capital you arent taking any risk. 10 million out of 50 is negligible

>> No.11753743

>>11753499
the american slave trade wasn't even that brutal, it has been completely blown out of proportion. The kid in blood meridian had a much harder time of things than the average slave

slavery is genuinely benefiical to the enslaved in a number of ways because people's natural proclivities towards vice are tamed by a power greater than them

>> No.11753752

>>11753743
>american slave trade wasn't even that brutal
Stopped reading right there. Kys mutt

>> No.11753760

People need to accept that there is nothing wrong with slavery if the slaves in question are criminals or are desperate for work.

>> No.11753761

>>11753734
I didn't say businesses or companies were superfluous. I said bosses are. We can function just fine without them taking our hard-earned money.

>> No.11753772

>>11753760
There are people who exist who think using prisoners for free labor is immoral, even when they get benefits for volunteering. It's fucking hilarious.

>> No.11753775

>>11753752
It wasn't it has been memed because people need a reason to explain why blacks behave the way they do so they invent this narrative where they were like beaten into being like that by oppression. This is just not true, the Americans often tried to educate their slaves.

Same deal with colonialism and Africa. They will even claim that Ethiopia is fucked up ebcause the Italians were there for like a year in ww2. They are beyond all reason on this subject.

>> No.11753780 [DELETED] 

>>11753368
Not all work, just most modern work, in the 60s you would get paid twice as much for the same work and people were 20% less productive. It's in the corporation's interest to establish the absolute limit of how hard they can push their workers before the turnover rate starts to cost them. Although most people who have desk jobs or higher education have less reason to complain.

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>>11753560
>steady salary
>implying that anyone from this generation has any job security whatsoever

Did you even read Taleb? A "job" salary is stable in the short run but has huge hidden downside of layoffs/outsourcing/etc in the long run. A trade or skill that is more like self-employment or business ownership has daily fluctuations but in the long run once you have acquired a useful skill no one can really stop you from making money.

>> No.11753825

>>11753519
>if you don't want to be miserable 8 hours a day you're a child

lol ameriburgers are broken

>> No.11753832

>>11753825
>he thinks he's still on /int/

>> No.11753841

>>11753691
>muh spooks
>what?? why can't i stop draining my life on intellectually-deleterious corners of the internet, i wish i could do this thing and that thing!
>addiction? discipline? responsibility? routine? self-determination? freedom from the baser?
>kek nice spoogs fag, dont chu know humans dont exist? actually we're formless immaterial gods from beyond the universe! im very original.
>ok ok just lemme return to being a slavish escapist !!
>please i dont want to do or be anything, just let me be a weak shell of a man hiding in my comfy bubble
>yknow, you're actually a brainwashed automaton! unlike me! ahaha

i don't care/know if any of that even makes sense but it was kinda fun to write, thanks la.

>> No.11753853

>>11753761
I think it depends on the industry. In a brand new industry, bosses are not that superfluous because the structure of production isn't optimized or saturated.

However, at a McDonald's or some other enterprise that has been running for more than half a century, bosses/corporate management are annoying, superfluous, and usually people who get a little too high on their own fumes; because the structure of production is already relatively optimized. Workers could just run and collectively own a McDonald's themselves without the need or organization from some upper management and they would probably make a lot more money, with a lot less shitty rules and shit-eating corporate culture to boot.

>> No.11753874
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11753874

Praxagora: I want all to have a share of everything and all property to be in common; there will no longer be either rich or poor; [...] I shall begin by making land, money, everything that is private property, common to all. [...]
Blepyrus: But who will till the soil?
Praxagora: The slaves.

>> No.11753879

I can leave my job tomorrow. Therefore my job is not slavery.

>> No.11753882

>>11753728
>>11753709
I don't think anyone refuses to see this, they're just tired of being the oppressed.

>> No.11753884

>>11753452
Nature is a cruel master?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXiGE9nwiLA

>> No.11753888

>>11753882
You haven't met any anarchists or communists then. Even liberals actually

>> No.11753899

>>11753888
You do realize they have a reason for not wanting oppression, right? You may not agree with them but they don't want to be the ones who are oppressed, they always have some other group to marginalize.

>> No.11753904

>>11753899
They think you can get rid of oppression

>> No.11753909

>>11753882
they need to accept their lot in life for the good of society. if you get rid of the oppressed you get rid of society at the same time

>> No.11753910

>>11753519
I’ve never been more happy in my life than when I was hunting

>> No.11753914

>>11753909
Some don't want to live in a society. The ones who do oppress some other group.

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>>11753368
>"Work is modern day slavery"
and?

>> No.11753929

>>11753904
No, they think it fluctuates and should be allowed to take its course so that we become more aware of our sense of individual responsibility to use reason to prosper from conflict and aggression. It's a view of the state as operating as an anchor with a short chain attached. The tide is coming in and you can't reach bottom. You end up having to move and look for shallower waters that you can settle in.

>> No.11753931

>>11753519
Actually yes. Men are built for competition. Hunting is the primordial competitive activity. Everything else is, like Ted says, a 'surrogate activity'

>> No.11753953

>>11753731
Yes, because you're forced to work to live in society and going of the grid is against the rules.

>> No.11753976

>>11753953
You can go off the grid if you are debt free and already have enough money to purchase and bribe for the required permissions.
But even then, someone could come along at any time and decide to force you back to society.

>> No.11753977

>>11753795

Taleb is the Stephen J. Gould of economics: a hack who took a well-known concept, gave it a catchy name, and marketed it as his unique insight.

Biologists long knew that the rate of evolutionary change was not constant, but Gould came along and coined the term "punctuated equilibrium" and sold the hell out of it to the lay media and became famous.

Likewise it was widely known that phenomena with a normal distribution of probabilities are a minority in this uncertain world. Nevertheless, Taleb coins "black swan" to describe what was already known and then sold the shit out of it to lay people presenting himself as some guru.

>> No.11753984

>>11753929
They literally want a stateless society

>> No.11753986

>>11753519
waking up early, kissing your hot tribal wife goodbye, meeting with all your hunter bros, setting off with your friends for a day of adventure and unknown, getting the kill, coming back home a hero as the tribe cheers, you all feast and be merry together, fuck your hot tribal wife as a night cap

>> No.11753998

>>11753368
In near future work wil lbe a luxury. Thanks AI.
Think athur c clarke wrote a novel about it. .yeah.. childhoods end.

>> No.11754004

>>11753986
And then you die of the flu

>> No.11754010

>>11754004
still better

>> No.11754019

>>11753925
There are some people who are slaves who shouldn't be and there are some people who aren't slaves who should be.

>> No.11754027

>>11753368
obviously. i thought everyone knew this

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>>11753368
Work is honorable, but build a warchest so that working, and at what job, is optional.
I bought rental real estate, and 'retired' at 41.

>> No.11754081

>>11754004
Oh no!
Dying!

>> No.11754086

Just do something you like bro

>> No.11754098

>>11754066
you are the worst most useless sort of person

>> No.11754128

>>11754019
and? Do you really think the Greeks, and all other slaveholding societies, didn't know this? To do so would require complete ignorance. Well then, let's hear your brilliant solution and list of successful evidentiary case studies. Surely you have those?

>> No.11754162

>>11754128
Some slaves were freed, some were high estimed, wrote books etc. They were not like african slaves,

>> No.11754164

>>11754098
S E E T H I N G

>> No.11754194

>>11754098
Tools are useful

>> No.11754222

>>11753368
working for wages was always slavery, no "modern day" about it

>> No.11754235

>>11754081
Based

>> No.11754460

>>11754128
I was literally just saying what Aristotle said himself

>> No.11754630

>>11753879
never work or get a job. see what happens

>> No.11755003

What a fucking retard.
Just lying around breathing is work to faggots like this.
You want work - go where there is no society. Go into a wilderness where there are no by people and no civilization. You'll work 18 hours a day just to stay alive. And no entertainment or comfort. And no mercy if you get sick or injured.

Idiots like this will never understand - the universe does not give free meals.

And even if we develop a society so affluent that people can just live without work on the largesse of the producers, there will still be rancor due to 'muh inequality.'

Oh wait - we're there. See OP.

>> No.11755046

>>11753874
he looks like a chubby roberto bolano there

>> No.11755283

>>11753986
No hygiene
Lice
No soap
Sleep in straw in cave
Burn down a forest just to trick mammoth to fall off a cliff

Muh pre-modern ecotopia

>> No.11755324

>>11755003
Well on could argue that what you're doing in this wilderness situation is not work, but life itself. Modern day work might be less physically taxing, less dangerous, less uncomfortable.
But the tasks you're doing in the wilderness give you meaning much more directly, you profit without any abstraction. You live, and arguably that's better than being a slave.
It's really not so much about how much effort you put in, but rather in what way and for whose gain.

>> No.11755549

>>11755283
awww does is the wittle boi scared of getting his whittle finger nails dirty

>> No.11755561

>>11755283
have you ever enjoyed the outdoors with friends? Ever camped? You can get dirty but somehow it's enjoyable, crazy

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>>11753486
I always imagine australia like a empty wasteland where the only people left that can stand the heat drink themselves to death. kind of like wake in fright

>> No.11755611

>>11755605
that movie is the shit. I dont even know why its so good it just is

>> No.11755624

>>11755283
life is worth living proportional to the struggle that maintains it

you're a child

>> No.11755647

>>11754004
Probably not though. Widespread disease comes after the agricultural revolution

>> No.11755656

>>11753519
read a book you philistine modernist filth
but honestly if you cant see whats wrong with this society you have a serious problem

>> No.11755752

>>11753368
I would say debt/usury is slavery, not work... Work can be satisfying, especially if you have the opportunity to work on your own projects or a craft.

>> No.11755776

>>11754630
You die of starving. So, what's your point? Isn't that how it's always been?

>> No.11755789

>>11753368
based pure macedonian blooded levantine greek

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>>11753519
>going innawoods and killing deer isn't fun

>> No.11755816

>>11753519
hunter-gatherers only spend four hours a day getting the necessities of life and relax, fuck, tell stories and play games and maybe do a bit of painting the rest of the time

>> No.11755825

>>11754004
Would be a sweet way to die, like going to bed after a long hard and satisfying day.

>> No.11755826

>>11755816
and music

>> No.11755895

>>11755816
They work longer than four hours, the study that produced that meme was highly selective in what it considered 'work' and failed to account for the many chores that need attending to within the encampment throughout the day. That's not to say that they still don't have plentiful free time however.

>> No.11755916

>>11753507
He's had 'fuck you' money since his early 20's, the key is that he isn't working because he needs to but because he wants to.

>> No.11755920

>>11753368
Work is only slavery when you're forced into it, like having debts to pay or being in immediate danger of going hungry or homeless. It can also be slavery if you only do it because it's not socially acceptable to be unemployed for too long. Also there is nothing "modern" about it, this has been the case since always.

>> No.11755943

>>11755920
>or being in immediate danger of going hungry or homeless

Working to ensure the basic needs for your survival like food and shelter is not slavery, it's the most fundamental and honest form of work.

>> No.11755949

>>11755943
you're a slave to nature

>> No.11755954

>>11755895
Yeah, well, maintaining a house, shopping for groceries, commuting are not typically included in the 40 hour workweek either.

>> No.11755955

>>11755949
humans are part of nature

>> No.11755973

>>11755955
that dosen't contradict what i said

>> No.11755981

This guy convinced me to deadlift before Rippetoe did

>> No.11756052

>>11755954
This.
Moderns work 168-hour weeks.
Needs to be mentioned again
>>11753614

>> No.11756063

>>11753478
>I wonder what else I would do with my time if I weren't working just to pay for insurance that doesn't cover anything.

>> No.11756081

>>11753909
>if you get rid of the oppressed you get rid of society at the same time
Good

>> No.11756086

>>11756052
>Moderns work 168-hour weeks.
*INHALE*
*INHALE SOME MORE*
*AND A BIT MORE*
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHA
*COUGHING FIT*

>> No.11756094

>>11756081
*tip*

>> No.11756107

>>11756086
Actually it's more considering how dreams slow time.
A copernican revolution in timecuckery.

>> No.11756182

Phoenicians are white, not Arab.

Gabish?

>> No.11756212

The final and only purpose of slavery is to make you work. Else are just slippery slides.

>> No.11756216

>>11753368
Wagecucks are subhumans

>> No.11756221

>>11756086
You don't work at all if you live in your mom's house.

>> No.11756278

>"lol dumbass we've always had to work, get used to it!"

not really. there have always been slaves, yes. but in a commerce based society, this is the first time when everyone has had to 'work'. if you were asked the same thing 200 years ago anyone that was 'working' would be fucking ashamed to do so. you've been programmed to believe that you need to spend your existence (time) to continue your existence (money). maybe this is the case, but what are you spending it for? so some fat bitch can eat more cheeseburgers? so some asshole can turn in your spreadsheets and buy himself even more slaves? if marx was right about anything, he was right about capitalism is inherently more efficient than any other system, because you can choose the type of slavery that you want

>> No.11756314

>>11753368

TYPICALLY JEWISH MAXIM, WHICH IS NOT ONLY ABOMINABLE, BUT ALSO ERRONEOUS; WORK IN ITSELF DOES NOT CONSTITUTE SLAVERY; WORK WITH PURPOSE CONDUCES TOWARD FREEDOM; WORK WITH NO PURPOSE CONDUCES TOWARD SLAVERY.

>> No.11756464

>>11755981
There's no reason to be alive if you can't do deadlifts.

>> No.11756465

>>11756314
cheers bro i'll drink to that

>> No.11757127

>>11755549
>Pretending to be tough online

/Pol/ has gone to shit but fuck off you're not wanted here

>> No.11757157

>>11753953
you really are since a community is essential to survival. There is no viable way to go off the grid as a small community.

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>>11753368
>It is, but they got themselves in the position they are in today. Next time learn how to control your fucking vagina and penis and the world would not succumb to your lustful needs.
>Mfw trying to explain to animals that too much sex is bad.

>> No.11757162

>>11755561
Yes I have. Eagle scout, Marines, and high adventure camp leader. I have worked and lived with people in the Philippines who live what can almost be called a Paleolithic lifestyle. I have seen lots of the pros and beauty of living without civilization. However I am cynical about romanticizing it. The best solution is to have civ but have huge national parks and treasure our environment so it can be enjoyed.

There is definitely an emptiness created by modern civilization and the inherent ease of life. When you have a survival situation you are in a constant state of emotion, and you can tightly bond with your peers. You experience humanity in a visceral way instead of reading about it. However, there are many downsides too.

>> No.11757186

>>11755816
>hunter-gatherers only spend four hours a day getting the necessities of life and relax, fuck, tell stories and play games and maybe do a bit of painting the rest of the time

Very simple and romantic view of things. HG cultures also have another characteristic: constant warfare.

>> No.11757366

>>11753486
Get out of my cuntry you bludgecunt

>> No.11757416

>>11757366
I guarantee you i will figure out a way to contribute something to the world and make enough money to not do conventional work. dont hate the player hate the game, wagey

>> No.11757454

>>11753486
what the fuck we get 660 a fortnight for being on the dole?!?!?!

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>>11753519
>I wish I was at home playing Skyrim right now :((

>> No.11757568

>>11757454
rent assistance + new start 660 a fortnite
if you arent paying rent its like 550

>> No.11757792

>>11753841
kek you made made me laugh, anon. Good job even though what you wrote was pretty autistic

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>>11753874
Good thing we have robots to till the soil for us now. Seriously, no one can make the argument that we are lacking enough in technology and recourses that we cannot make machines advanced enough to do the shit jobs for us but not advanced enough to say no or find an alternate way that we don't like. Modern farming could be done with robotic atv's and an automated abattoir, we already 3d print and assemble houses and 95% of the products people use solely for recreation are made (or could be made easily enough) in a factory by robots. We have the resources to do this and ensure a basic standard of life for every human free from work but we don't, because it's not profitable under our current system. We are living in a post serf world but keep dragging ourselves down to serfdom because those that control the resources tel us its the only way. if anyone can find a fault in my logic in terms of a basic standard of living I'd love to hear it

>> No.11757981

>>11757157
Hunt. Plant some fucking potatoes.

>> No.11757983

>>11754164
>yeah, i'm a useless, rent-seeking parasite. u mad bro xd

>> No.11757986

>>11756182
muh J2 master race

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I am fourty thousand dollars in debt and the government is going to take my car

>> No.11757993

>>11757987
>you're not american so you will never know this feel
How long do you think american capitalism has left ?

>> No.11757996

>>11757993
I'm not even american
at least there are no niggers here

>> No.11758001

This guy was born in a rich family and went to famous universities. And in his book he talked about taxi drivers being a safe profession and later on twitter he laughs at uber taxi drivers. I'm not a leftist but I'm not going to pretend being a taxi driver is desirable.

>> No.11758005

>>11757987
if you're unemployed launch a fake business to register your car as a company car

>> No.11758006

no work in itself is not slavery. the issue here is, some are dying from too much work and some are becoming tyrants from too little work. the ones who are dying are the slaves.

>> No.11758078

>>11753752
The slaves were only really fucked like in propagandists imagination in the northeast of Brazil and the British West Indies.

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11758084

Good thing that if you live in a civilised country you don't have to work and can exist solely on benefits.

>> No.11758093

>>11758084
>tfw i am the 20%

based and red pilled ants

>> No.11758105

>>11757923
Except resources are finite and there are already too many people for the earth to sustain.

>> No.11758127

>>11758084
Peterson BTFO

>> No.11758139

>>11758084

75% of the world is NPC.
25% of the world is PC.
Hmmmmmmmmmm.

>> No.11758155

>>11753368
Work makes you free. Jobs are the slave-pens of today.

>> No.11758388

>>11758084
even further, ants don't work all they time. They have a lot of downtime before something seems to need doing

>> No.11758429

How is being a part time professor and options trader not "work".

>> No.11758561

>>11758139

>> No.11758613

>>11758139
search Pareto principle
its 80/20, with 10% being overmen and 10% being undermen.

>> No.11758665

>>11757981
One or both of those things are illegal or inaccessible in most of the counties

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>>11758084
>tfw NEET ELITE

>> No.11758786

>>11758139
source?

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>>11753368
A FREE-MAN, is "he, that in those things, which by his strength and wit he is able to do, is not hindred to doe what he has a will to." But when the words Free, and Liberty, are applyed to any thing but Bodies, they are abused; for that which is not subject to Motion, is not subject to Impediment: And therefore, when 'tis said (for example) The way is free, no liberty of the way is signified, but of those that walk in it without stop. And when we say a Guift is free, there is not meant any liberty of the Guift, but of the Giver, that was not bound by any law, or Covenant to give it. So when we Speak Freely, it is not the liberty of voice, or pronunciation, but of the man, whom no law hath obliged to speak otherwise then he did. Lastly, from the use of the word Freewill, no liberty can be inferred to the will, desire, or inclination, but the liberty of the man; which consisteth in this, that he finds no stop, in doing what he has the will, desire, or inclination to doe.

>> No.11758822

>>11753977
Gould is nearly soley responsible for the current study of heterochrony and is a foundational figure in evo-devo at large. Gould was fucking based, and you are a god damn psued.

>> No.11758855

I dont like to admit it, but sometimes I find myself agreeing with that sentiment. I make a high wage (~200k) but my employer will bring in around $1.5 million from my labor this year. And I'm stuck working 50-60 hour weeks.

>> No.11758880

>>11758855

what do you do?

>> No.11758911

>>11757568

You could live a life of an enlightened Hobo, sketching the feet of tourists in the beach by day, deciding between Bach or a DMT bender in the evening.

>> No.11758918

>>11758855
Yeah but if you're making that much you're easily making enough to quit wagecuckery altogether in a few years

>> No.11758923

>>11753368
huh? when i read his books he seems like hes a libertarian capitalist. seems like a weird thing for him to say.

>> No.11758931

>>11758880
Lawyer

>> No.11758950

Imagine being such an entitled, lazy fag that the concept of working for what you want is abhorrent to you.

>> No.11758970

>>11758855
>>11758918
This.

http://earlyretirementextreme.com/
https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/

If I made 200k a year I wouldn't work more than a couple if years I think, especially if you don't like the job. After a few years you can get your retirement set up if you're not in debt and then you can go do stuff you like with a lot of fuck-you-money.

>> No.11758999

>>11758950
Why would i want to work instead of having capital work for me like any smart person?

>> No.11759033

>>11758918
>>11758970
The problem is school debt. It's going to take me a few years to get out from under that. I figure I could retire in 10 years (especially since my income will go significantly every year for at least the next 5 and then may shoot up astronomically or drop back down around where it is now). Seems like a long way out but I'll only be 37 so that's not too bad I guess.

>> No.11759043

>>11759033
I always forget about burgers student debt. Literally trying to trap you in wageslavery.