Lost Books

[Anonymous No.11663428]

I'm obsessed with books that have been completely lost to time or exist only in fragments. What's a lost work you wish you could read in its entirety? I really wish we had the complete philosophical poem of Empedocles. This guy was out there.

[Anonymous No.11663434]

>>11663428
The Trojan Cycle.

[Anonymous No.11663440]

>>11663428
art of the deal

[Anonymous No.11663446]

"How I Learned to Overcome Homosexuality" by O.P., although most scholars consider its existence a fabrication by later authors.

[Anonymous No.11663454]

>Cypria
>Aethiopis
>Iliupersis
>Nostoi
>Telegony
>Little Iliad
That's about it

[Anonymous No.11663485]

>>11663446
epic xD

[Anonymous No.11663491]

>>11663485
>mocks such a stately and venerable meme as "OP is a fag"
back to Redit you go, kiddo

[Anonymous No.11663543]

>>11663428
Do unfinished books count

the last tycoon
the pale king
my diary desu senpai

[Anonymous No.11663590]

>>11663428
those chapters of Dead Souls which Gogol burned in anger

[Anonymous No.11663612]

>>11663446
wouldn't that mean that later posters implied OP was no longer a homosexual while OP never made such claims, even though it is presumably the opposite that occurs

[Anonymous No.11663615]

A lot of ancient works of History have been lost

[Anonymous No.11663617]

On Non-Existence - Gorgias
Les Journees de Florbelle - Marquis de Sade
Dead Souls II and III - Gogol
Byron's memoirs
Portions of diaries from Franz Kafka and Thomas Mann

[Anonymous No.11663624]

The complete works of Homer.

[Anonymous No.11663628]

Satyricon

[Anonymous No.11663630]

>>11663428
I'd love to read the parts of the bible that are locked away in the Vatican, not for public consumption. I'm guessing it's shit that didn't make it through the ecumenical councils.

[Anonymous No.11663635]

Death by Starvation - Hegesias
This could help so many anons start and end with the greeks

[Anonymous No.11663636]

>>11663428
I wish we had some works of Pythagoras, if he even wrote any.

[Anonymous No.11663638]

>>11663428
To Laïs, About Her Looking Glass – Aristippus of Cyrene
Life of the Messenger of God – Muhammad ibn Ishaq
The Truth – Protagoras
"Q" – Traditional Christian

[Anonymous No.11663653]

I often think about these works, and it makes me profoundly sad. The second book of Poetics. The burned maya codices. The lost works of Heraclitus. And many more.

The empty feeling, and melancholia I guess, stem from simply knowing what we could've had, even if perhaps the impact wouldn't be relevant. It's a childish frustration, the greed of the human mind, be it intellectual of material. Perhaps thinly veiled as a "pursuit of knowledge". We should be grateful for what was preserved, and lament perhaps, yes, but not mourn the lost works. It's so much darker when a light goes out than it would have been if it had never shone.

[Anonymous No.11663672]

>>11663630
what?

[Anonymous No.11663805]

>>11663428
i'd like to read all of Seveneves. i'm pretty sure it didn't end where the publishers finished it.

[Anonymous No.11663831]

>>11663428
ann frank's diary

[Anonymous No.11663844]

Brother's Karamazov 2. Dostoevski died before he could even really start it.

[Anonymous No.11663852]

>>11663630
What are you talking about? The New Testament era texts considered for canonization are all known. The Vatican secret library isn't off limits to scholars. They just need to be credentialed and make an appointment, same as any other research library.

[Anonymous No.11663860]

>>11663844
The working title was "2 Brothers 2 Karamazov."

[Anonymous No.11663903]

Oh man definitely Aristotle’s dialogues, they were supposed to be fire.
Somedude said that if Plato has a silver tongue Aristotle has gold

[Anonymous No.11663910]

The complete greek tragedies

[Anonymous No.11663948]

His lost book.

[Anonymous No.11663962]

The Manichean Arzhang would be my first choice.
But On Nature by Heraclitus is a close second, since I think our idea of his philosophy is still more vague and incomplete than any other Presocratic.

[Anonymous No.11663972]

Against the Galileans by Emperor Julian (the apostate)

[Anonymous No.11664027]

>tfw part two of Dead Souls was lost because Gogol went mad and burned it all

[Anonymous No.11664094]

>>11663805
I've never thought of it that way but come to think of it at the very least an epilogue is in order. Or a sequel

[Anonymous No.11664200]

>>11663491
All OPs are not fags. You fag.

[Anonymous No.11664211]

>>11663972
this
as well as Tesla's journals and notes. I know the british archives are just keeping them from the public but still it's unknown

[Anonymous No.11664266]

>>11663962
haraclitus is buddha. trust me on this

[Anonymous No.11664336]

wish we had the 500 or so west and east germanic epics that Louis the Pious burned down

[Anonymous No.11664347]

>>11663590
but they were shit

[Anonymous No.11664359]

>Lost works of Plutarch

[Anonymous No.11664365]

I think the dialogues of Aristotle would make our collective heads explode. Oh how I would love to see these unearthed from some dry Egyptian tomb.

[Anonymous No.11664371]

>>11663628
Yeah, this

[Anonymous No.11664378]

>>11663962
>since I think our idea of his philosophy is still more vague and incomplete than any other Presocratic.

Consider though that his work was written without spaces, accents, or punctuation of any sort. Consider too that it was written in such a way that every bit of text could be understood in multiple ways. Our "fragments", such as they are, mess with this amazing organization, or lack of, by crystallizing particular possibilities through text isolation. The man was an oracular mastermind. His connections to Delphi are many, and the links are not insignificant.

[Anonymous No.11664400]

My pick is Cicero's Hortensius:

>The book changed my feelings. It altered my prayers, Lord, to be towards yourself. It gave me different values and priorities.
>St. Augustine

>>11663428
Empedocles would be dope.

>>11663972
I'd also enjoy this; Julian is far too mythologized because of a lack of sources.

>>11664336
Reminded me of Ashburnham House and the works of Old English which were lost.

>>11664365
I'm working through Aristotle now. It would be a lot more fun if we had this otherside of the coin.

[Anonymous No.11664402]

The Bible/Torah

[Anonymous No.11664408]

>Aristotle's school collected the constitutions of 158 Greek city-states. One of these made it down to us--the Constitution of the Athenians.

Imagine having all of these. The laws a hundred and fifty-eight city states!

[Anonymous No.11664432]

>>11664408
Unironically soi and basedpilled

[Anonymous No.11664514]

>>11663428
Anything and everything lost; from the destruction of the library of Alexandria, to all the things lost in religious and political purges, bans, and burning throughout time. Plus the libraries of ancient Atlantis. Just because. If you gonna dream, dream big bitches.

[Anonymous No.11664521]

>>11664408
I would like to see the Spartan and Delphi constitutions

[Anonymous No.11664542]

I bet you guys are pretty jealous of Aristophanes of Byzantium.

[Anonymous No.11664616]

>>11663630
Isn't this library being digitized anyway?

[Anonymous No.11664623]

The Non-Confucian scholars' works that were burnt on the orders of Emperor Qin Shi Huang

[Anonymous No.11664627]

>>11663428
aristotle on comedy

[Anonymous No.11664634]

tactics by polybius

[Anonymous No.11664644]

The lost volumes of Livy's Ab urbe condita

[Anonymous No.11664693]

Perhaps a more interesting question,

Which personal library would you rescue from the ravages of time? Aristotle's? Cicero's? Proclus'?

[Anonymous No.11664707]

>>11663852
You also have to request the item to access it, which means, you need to know the lost text actually exists.

[Anonymous No.11664714]

>>11664693

A complicating factor

Instead of Aristotle you could choose Theophrastus. He inherited Aristotle's library. You'd get all of Aristotle's books plus all of Theophrastus' books. The downside is that you would have a less secure understanding of Aristotle's sources.

[Anonymous No.11664738]

>>11664402
This guy gets it. Augustine really fucked over the whole book

[Anonymous No.11664744]

>>11664693
Proclus

[Anonymous No.11664762]

>>11664714
What if Aristotle borrowed most of the books he read?

[Anonymous No.11664798]

Anyone else feel bad about what happened to Aristotle's library?

[Anonymous No.11664811]

>>11663428
There are no lost books. The Akashic library holds every book ever written, every book that could have been written, and every book that could not have been written.

[Anonymous No.11664899]

>>11664811
okay you got dubs, so I'll bite. How do you attain the akashic records? I doubt Blavatsky

[Anonymous No.11664964]

I genuily hope the multiverse theory is right, and that we will be able to access all the destroyed works mentioned in here in the far future.

[Anonymous No.11664976]

>>11664200
Lurk for 2 years before posting.

[Anonymous No.11665118]

>>11664976
See >>11664976

[Anonymous No.11665369]

can somebody list all the world libraries or important libraries that burned down?

[Anonymous No.11665443]

>>11665369
>can somebody list all the world libraries or important libraries that burned down?

Every single ancient library was destroyed or otherwise disappeared. In most cases, the destruction was not sudden, but the culmination of centuries of decline.

You are interested in fires specifically?

[Anonymous No.11665479]

Sappho complete

[Anonymous No.11665692]

>>11665443
yes fires

[Anonymous No.11665704]

>>11664266
lolno. heraclitus "war is the father of all" was no peace loving pussy.

[Anonymous No.11665743]

>>11664542
He didn't subvocalize, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.11665968]

The New Shadow, Tolkien's sequel to LotR

[Anonymous No.11666097]

Manetho's Aegyptiaca
The Gospel of the Hebrews
Books 2-3 of Hippolytus' Refutation of All Heresies
Simon Magus' The Four Quarters of the World and The Sermons of the Refuter
Celsus' The True Word

[Anonymous No.11666119]

>>11665968
That's not lost, he only wrote a few pages and gave up.

[Anonymous No.11666141]

>>11663590
I will never stop being salty about this

[Anonymous No.11666161]

>>11666119
Lost in his mind

[Anonymous No.11666206]

>>11663972
From the fragments that we have, it doesn't look like a huge loss. Celsus and Porphyry would be far more interesting to read.

[Anonymous No.11666326]

>>11663428
Aristotle's Dialogues
The two latter parts of Prometheus trilogy.

[Anonymous No.11666366]

>>11663428
just after WW1 TE Lawrence aka Lawrence of Arabia lost his briefcase at Reading railway station. it contained the manuscript of the first version of his classic the seven pillars of wisdom.
i have often wondered what happened to it. although it was most likely destroyed by an opportunist who nicked the case, i like to think that it is still lying in some massive lost property depot, pristine within the dust covered case, awaiting rediscovery.

[Anonymous No.11666377]

>>11663454
They weren't written by Homer nor were deemed good enough to copy and reference extensively, so not that bad. Or maybe ancients had terrible taste and a boner for Homer (heh) so they couldn't appreciate the good stuff, in that case it's a tragedy.

[Anonymous No.11666418]

>>11663617
>Portions of diaries from Franz Kafka and Thomas Mann

the pedo shit that got deleted?

[Anonymous No.11666552]

>>11664976

[Anonymous No.11666934]

>>11663653
>The second book of Poetics
Not to mention all the plays and other works referenced in the first book.

End of chapter 15:
>But enough of this has been said in our published treatises.

[Anonymous No.11666976]

>>11663446
Red and basepilled

[Anonymous No.11666980]

>>11666552
leave

[Anonymous No.11666985]

Nicolas of Damascus.

[Anonymous No.11667036]

>>11666980
Nobody gives a shit about you trying to belong subhuman and if you don't like it you leave
Not him btw;-)

[Anonymous No.11667053]

>>11663428
The best works ever written may well have been created by people who's collection of work was totally destroyed and who dies penniless and deject.

But enough about the people on this god forsaken board ayy lmaoooooo

[Anonymous No.11667063]

>>11663612
No it implies that OP never in fact overcame his homosexuality and is indeed a fag.

[Anonymous No.11667079]

>>11667036
cut off your finger for me pumpkin

[Anonymous No.11667083]

>>11667079
uh uh ah ah

[Anonymous No.11667091]

>>11664899
I have no idea lol

[Anonymous No.11667092]

>>11667083
or you can just go back where you cane from >>>/r/eddit >>>/twitter/ >>>/discord/ >>>/tumblr

[Anonymous No.11667099]

>>11664266
Heraclitus was Zoroaster

[Anonymous No.11667291]

>>11665704
buddha killed people

[Anonymous No.11668879]

>>11667079
loser

[Anonymous No.11670185]

>>11663428
As a /his/ denizen, that book Claudius wrote about etruscan history and that other one about carthaginian history
And those 107 lost books of Ad Urbe Condita would be very nice too

[Anonymous No.11670188]

>>11663428
Zeno's Republic

[Anonymous No.11670216]

>>11664627
He would have established once and for all that the humble fart was the original source of comedy. If a comic writer thinks he has advanced far beyond fart jokes, he is only cutting himself off at the roots.

[Anonymous No.11670504]

>>11663844
This. Was supposed to be a trilogy and breaks my heart when I think of it.