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Is there a better alternative that achieves such consistently great quality, pretty good choice of translator, and hardback (not to mention all at a reasonable price)? Have you ever seen any at your used bookstore?

Post your everyman's.

>> No.11575879

>>11575803
Shut up you faggot shill

>> No.11575958

Why would you want an alternative? They're as good as you can get before you start getting into (generally way overpriced) leather bound editions. And like you said, they're often dirt cheap.
Though it kills me that they went for P&V for their Brothers Karamazov translation, it's pretty much the only somewhat affordable hardcover edition out there, and I want Maudes.

>> No.11575968

>>11575803
The acid-free paper is really nice
>>11575958
P&V hate is the worst meme here.

>> No.11575987

>>11575968
No hate at all. I like some of their stuff a lot, their Dead Souls translation I thought was fantastic. But they're not my preferred Dostoevsky translation. I find a lot of their word choices really stick out to me and make things read more awkwardly than they need to.

>> No.11576002

Hands down the best blind translation choice you can make. It'll be the best translation maybe 1/3 of time, but they have maybe one or two books with bad translations. Also by far of the big three the highest print quality

>> No.11576125

I only have their Canterbury Tales but I like it (and yes I found it at a used bookstore, I probably wouldn't have bought it otherwise)

>> No.11576131

>>11576002
I wouldn't get them for shit like Plato

>> No.11576161

They put out a really nice collection of Duras' writing with The Lover, Wartime Notebooks, etc., but it was over $50 (Australian), hardly 'reasonably priced'.

>> No.11576180

>>11576161
Yikes, it like reasonable $24 bars close to where I live.

Look on the bright side mate, Australia is one of few countries safe from being nuked when shit starts to hit the fence.

>> No.11576186

>>11576180
Consider me jealous, must be just shitty import prices here in this shithole country.

>> No.11576550

library of america is better but as far as i know the only non burger book they have is Democracy in America.

>> No.11576563

Penguin's Clothbound Classics

>> No.11576735

>>11576563
absolute trash. bought their paradise loft and it feels flimsy as shit and the paint on the cover was chipped off after handling it for five minutes.

>> No.11577163

I have their Lolita, Wuthering Heights, Pale Fire, Ficciones, Magic Mountain

>> No.11577165

>>11576563
I bought their Count of Monte Cristo. Was disappointed. It crackles every time I open the book

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>>11575803
>pretty good choice of translator
>P&V
>Good

>> No.11577920

>>11575968
From what I understood, pretty much all publishers began using acid free paper in the 80s already.
I think it would be notable only if a publisher DIDN'T use acid free paper.

>> No.11577968

Where do you guys get your Everyman's/LoA? I've never seen a single one at my used bookstores, and I would say their selection is decent all things considered.

>> No.11578008

>>11575803
>Have you ever seen any at your used bookstore?

Literally only once, and it was a collection of Richard Ford novels, and I didn't buy it because I don't care for Richard Ford.

>> No.11578010

>>11575803
See a decent amount of everymans at my local used bookstore.

Have picked up Lolita by Nabokov, some Evelyn Waugh, some Jane Austen, Dubliners by Joyce, Midnight's Children by Rushdie, Song of Solomon by Morrison. All priced at about $5 each.

There was a bunch of Henry James there too, but I don't really read him so I didn't pick it up.

>> No.11578023

>>11578010
>Have picked up Lolita by Nabokov, some Evelyn Waugh, some Jane Austen, Dubliners by Joyce, Midnight's Children by Rushdie, Song of Solomon by Morrison. All priced at about $5 each.
Lucky you, I have to pay full price for each of those copies because I have no used book shop.

>> No.11578051

>>11578023
Have you tried abebooks? If you hunt around there's a lot there for great prices too

>> No.11578077

>>11575803
>pic
I can understand reading Russian books in translation, but French? An English speaker can learn to read French in a week.

>> No.11578089

>>11578077
Any good resources/books you know of for learning French? I'm bilingual and a native English speaker so I've always felt like it would be silly not to learn French.

>> No.11578117

>>11578077
>In a week
Don't be ridiculous anon

>> No.11578246

I absolutely despise the P&V translation of Notes. Is there a better one?

>> No.11578289

>>11578051
How do I know the used copy is going to be up to my standard? I feel like buying used books online without picture is good way to get burned.

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>>11578246
Seriously, what translations of each of Dostoevsky books are the best for reading?

>> No.11578434

>>11576563
One of the points of a luxury hardback is that the binding is loose enough for it to just unfold effortlessly in your hand. Then you to mentioning shit like that sclerotic binding of a book. For shame, anon. It doesn't even have that delicious creamy, acid free paper.

>> No.11579516
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11579516

How is the Everyman's Library edition of Ulysses for a first time reader? I generally get my books from them if possible, but from what I hear, Ulysses seems to require pretty extensive end-notes to get the full experience from it. Are the notes in the Everyman's Library edition useful/enough? Or is it going to require supplemental information no matter what?
And if theirs isn't the best choice, anyone have a recommendation for a hardcover copy of Ulysses with good notes that isn't incredibly expensive?

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>>11579516
>hardcover copy of Ulysses with good notes that isn't incredibly expensive

You are asking for too much, either get the annotated paperback by penguin, or just buy the hardcover and read the damn thing. You could also buy the hardcover and giant book of notes that more about references to stuff than understanding the book.

>> No.11579775

>>11579614
Yeah I thought it might be tough to find. Oh well, I'll probably start with the Penguin one or something similar then

>> No.11579806

>>11575987
Their Tolstoy is fine too; Dostoyevsky was their first venture into translating and it shows in the stilted prose.
>>11575968
Its not a meme, google it

>> No.11580540

If I want the McDuff translation of The Brothers Karamazov, does anyone know if there's a hardcover version of it at all? I've never seen it in any form except the basic Penguin floppy paperback which I hate the feel of.
Also, any thoughts on the Avsey translation?

>> No.11581327

I've been eyeing the Arabian Nights one, is it good?

>> No.11581418

>>11575968
Based acid-free paper poster.

>> No.11581453

>>11579614
Does Ulysses reference much more than just the Odyssey? Are these references important in understanding the work, or can I just read it for fun. Do the copious notes just to tell me where each reference is from actually help me in any way other than (oh hey this is from that hahaha)

>> No.11581627

>>11579806
>>11575968

>be a retarded 20 y/o
Why are P&V so bad? I read the Brothers Karamazov and Notes from Underground by P&V and Crime and Punishment by Garnett, can't say I noticed a considerable difference

>> No.11581648

>>11581627
w-well, because /lit/ made fun of me for reading P&V once so

>> No.11581668

>>11575803
You can find nice editions from various suppliers. Many top universities release quality volumes, as do publishers like Folio, Loeb Classical Library, and Library of America, or groups like the American Mathematical Society.

>> No.11581674

>>11575803
Has anyone here read Nostromo? Is it good?

>> No.11581745

>>11577920
only for first editions or special editions

by far most 2nd edition and mass market books are not printed in acid free paper, especially the books printed in the UK.

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11583331

I love the Everymans editions of Joseph Conrad

>> No.11583361

>>11581627
I've only looked at their Dosto work but their word choice and phrasing was often bizarre and generally made for rather awkward English. Some anon in here is saying they've improved since then, though (and I don't know Russian so I can't actually pretend to be some authority)